Itagaki: Xbox 360 is the Most Powerful Hardware

Jamie Foxx - 556 days 14 hours ago

his tried to compare NG2 and himself to kojima and MGS4,im sorry but thats wishing & retarted!

itagaki and shane kim = LAUREL & HARDY or WILL AND GRACE take your pick

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riqued - 556 days 14 hours ago

"I think Hideo Kojima (director of MGS) is very much like myself."

This pervert has serious problems...

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Jamie Foxx - 556 days 14 hours ago

that he wears they get me everytime

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C_SoL - 556 days 14 hours ago

buy my game damn it.....

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Genesis5 - 556 days 14 hours ago

So thats why the frame rate jumps all over the place in this game is it? Too much power.

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Statix - 556 days 14 hours ago

He's never even worked on the PS3, how would he be able to tell if it's more or less powerful?

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pimpstation - 556 days 14 hours ago

Yep it's just so powerful that he can't control it. It's So powerful that the camera has developed self-aware AI and does whatever it wants.

This dude probably dresses up like Kojima and then plays with MGS action figures and pretends he is him.

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Kain81 - 556 days 14 hours ago

And he is too Arrogant.
I dont like him personaly

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Panthers - 556 days 14 hours ago

He is trying to become a legend like Kojima, but he is just becoming an ass.

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chaosatom333 - 556 days 14 hours ago

he is ON drugs.

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chaosatom333 - 556 days 14 hours ago

Hideo kojima would say other wise

--he would say "it's not 200 per cent as I think that is possible to do with the years of hard work"

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HighDefinition - 556 days 14 hours ago

This guy makes me laugh.

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mikeslemonade - 556 days 13 hours ago

Most powerful hardware? So can you, Itagaki, tell me why your game looks like crap and has frame rate issues?

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kevoncox - 556 days 13 hours ago

So Komiji says Ps3 is most powerful and he's praised?
This guys says 360 is most powerful and he's crazy?

Lol...Fanboys...
I look at the Ps3 and 360 as swords.
360 being a Katana and Ps3 being a European broad sword.
In the right hands both can be destructive. However, the sheer power of a Broad sword cannot be harnessed by a person not strong enough to swing it. WHile the katana's power cannot be harnessed by a person quick/agile enough to handle it. Both powerful. Different types of power. I think that's evident by the fact that 360 games still regullary out perform ps3 games. Remember last gen when the xbox would blow ps2 graphics out the water and was limited to just slight graphically improvements in games. Heck the "more powerful" ps3 can't even do that this gen. Different types of poer. If you can't harness the raw poer of the broad sword, what good is it. If you can't move quick enough to swing the katana, what good is it?

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gamesR4fun - 556 days 13 hours ago

wow he really thinks he can hold up his mediocre drivel to msg4 lol more powerful hardware indeed lol msg4 has him beat in every way real story not cheap grimy hack n slash kicks... real next gen graphics vs his deja vue game...
this guys a joke for putting his game in the same sentence as msg4...

"more powerful hardware" i could take that is if hed done anything to prove his point. His games a mirror of NG and not even up to NGS standards and at that it struggles with even a few extra characters on the screen the cameras a joke in some scenes. This guy is a freaking moron no wonder all he can do is spew out the same old violent cliches.

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lsujester - 556 days 13 hours ago

I don't know about you people, but I love this guy. His games are nothing but hot chicks and ninjas, and he considers himself to be a god amongst men. What's not to love?

If this guy were a body part, he'd be a perineum.

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deeznuts - 556 days 13 hours ago

Subordinate: Lord Itagaki!
Lord Itagaki: WHAT?
[Itagaki gathers up his dolls]
Subordinate: You're needed on the bridge sir!
Lord Itagaki: Knock on my door! Knock next time!
Subordinate: Yes, sir!
Lord Itagaki: Did you see anything?
Subordinate: No, sir! I didn't see you playing with you dolls again.

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KingME - 556 days 13 hours ago

VERY VERY well said and an outstanding analogy. If people read your comment and can actually wrap their feeble little minds around what you are saying, there would be no way they could be disagreeing with you. Perhaps they can, because of their feeble little minds...lol

With analogies like that, I really don't understand how you only have 3 bubbles. Let me help you out a bit.

Bubbles up!

@bishop-br - try actually opening your mind to the analogy for what it is saying, while keeping your hate at bay, and you would have to agree that it's a great analogy.

Perhaps you can understand this one, what good is a high perfomance dragster, in an a race with constant hairpin turns, you will never get the thing up to its top speed. And it will loose in a race against a less powerful car which emphasis on handling and traction. Simply put, the PS3 is probably overall more powerful that the 360 but in some areas, but in other areas it simply isn't.

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BattleAxe - 556 days 13 hours ago

This guy is getting to be way out of hand.

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lsujester - 556 days 13 hours ago

Even if his analogy may not be very clear, what kevoncox is saying makes sense. The hardware in the 360 and PS3 are very different, and both very powerful. While CELL may have an edge in raw processing power, the coding required to fully use it is very much different than the coding in which the majority of programmers have been using their entire careers. Granted, it's all C++, but the actual cycle processes and such have to be executed very differently to make use of the very specialized SPU's. The hardware of the 360, although Power architecture RISC chips from IBM, is closer to the traditional x86 development processes that programmers have been using in PC's.

This fact is what has led to the numerous PS3 delays in both multi-platform releases and with exclusives. However, the overall stronger architecture of the PS3 will theoretically let developers have a slightly stronger computing base to work from in time... once they have down the tricks of using the exotic hardware.

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kevoncox - 556 days 12 hours ago

I am so happy there are some actually gamers and people on this board with MINDs. It's simple to see that the Ps3 is a monster but do developers have the time and resources to use that power.

If you need to make a game from scratch in under 1 year for less than 10 million dollars, the ps3 probally isn't for you. The 360 would then be seen as a more powerful system because all of your tricks work. All of your coding efficently transfer and you are able to put ot mind blowing graphics with little effort. Your time can be used to refine, and further push your coding ability to the limit. If you can dictate a duration of time of 3 years then your developers will have all the time they need to learn the tricks and the trade of the system. Then you can further inprove your game. However, most game developers don't have that amount of development time...

In a 100 hard dash the 360 will win. In a marathon the ps3 should win.
Now the question is...is this gen a marathon or a 100 yard dash? I think it's somewhere inbetween. It's not the 10 years crap Sony is talking but it's not 4 years like people believe it will be. I expect the 360 to last 6 years. I expect a new 360 out in 2011. Sony's Ps3 will have begon to show it's teeth by then but it's superemcy will be short lived. Similar to how the xbox started to pull away last gen but the race was already too far out of hand for MS to win. Sony will be forced to released the ps4 in 2012. Think about how much tech has changed since 1997. Do you really think a console released in 2006 will be able to compete with devices out in 2016? That's like saying my P2 in 2006 could compete with a Dual core processor now.

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boodybandit - 556 days 11 hours ago

regardless of what you or I think, Sony looks at gaming as a marathon and not a 100 yard dash. They still are supporting and selling a ton of PS2 hardware and they will do the same thing with the PS3 long after the MS "Next" Box and PS4 are released. They didn't drop their old hardware and abandon their userbase the way Nintendo and MS did with the GameCube and Xbox.

As far as Itagaki goes. The man is an obnoxious perverted idiot and an embarrassment to Japan. But I will still pick up NG2 despite what I think of this moron.

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NO_PUDding - 556 days 10 hours ago

@Kevoncox

Let me complete your awful analogy.

These warriors all fight each other constantly, so why are they wastign their time with a katana, when ultimately, you will find the best weapon will be a huge Broadsword.

Sure it's more difficult to weild, but if you aren't already dead, get in there quick, and learn it!

That's why the PS3 is clever, but challenging the developers, it creates a market within itself.

You will find next generation will be the same, Sony create hardware that is ultimately more powerful, but needs to be worked on. It's how developers can seperate themselves and create a HEALTHY market.

Not a stale "let's crack anotehr one out of this franchise becuase it's so easy" ethos.

And really... work on your analogies, that was so difficult for me to spin.

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juuken - 556 days 10 hours ago

How could you not believe that! The 360 has so much powa that it burned a house down! Come on man, ya gotta believe this guy!

*cough*Itagaki is smokin' that pipe again*cough*

Lol @ kevonkox, you're cracking even ME up. Please, stop while you can...I can't take it anymore!

*falls off of chair laughing*

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Bubble Buddy - 556 days 9 hours ago

kevonox > i look at the ps3 as a lightsaber that can cut through any sword...

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Legion - 556 days 8 hours ago

Yes... good analogy. A fictional weapon that is expected to be unbeatable in the future.

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Alcohog - 556 days 8 hours ago

He also said PS3 is more powerful, previously:

http://www.gamesquad.com/fo...

Not that Itagaki contradicting himself would be anything new.

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CrazedFiend - 556 days 6 hours ago

Ok so, the way you put it, the PS3 is the overpowered dragster and the 360 is the lesser powered car that can handle the hair-pinned turns.

That's a fair analogy. I have no problem with that or with kevoncox said. The only problem is that your analogies are not related to Itagaki's comment. His comment was not about which system performs better. He said that the 360 is the "most powerful".

To place his comment into your analogies, he's basically saying that that underpowered car is actually MORE powerful than that dragster (and can still handle the corners), and that the katana has more strength than the broad sword (this I believe though, was not too far from the truth, but I don't think kevoncox was thinking about that when he wrote his comment).

So basically, I agree with you guys, but I still can't agree with Itagaki, and it doesn't sound to me like you guys do either.

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dan-boy - 556 days 5 hours ago

you shouldn't believe every little story you read on the net. especially some of the stuff posted on here.

after playing the demo, i can confirm, that i've not seen it stutter, or the frame-rate dip at-all! the game runs lightening quick, and is silky smooth.

i'm hoping that doesn't rain on anyones parade!

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Saigon - 556 days 4 hours ago

that you are wrong...sony is the first company to make the step to multi core processing...and i will let you know this now...multicore programming is the future...so devs need to get use to it now or get out of the water...

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RobotIsTheFuture - 556 days 3 hours ago

"Yep it's just so powerful that he can't control it. It's So powerful that the camera has developed self-aware AI and does whatever it wants.

This dude probably dresses up like Kojima and then plays with MGS action figures and pretends he is him."

ROFL!!!

LMAO @ the Kojima Poser XD

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ASSKICKING4U - 556 days 1 hour ago

Its funny how all of you PS3 gamers react it seems that you spend more time defending the console than playing on it.

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HateBoy - 555 days 23 hours ago

This man is in denial, fanboys can argue about the quality of games and so on but there really is no doubt that the ps3 is the more powerful machine. Anything less would be absolutely ridiculous considering the ps3 came out a year later and hence benefitted from tech-advancements made in that period.

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Alcohog - 555 days 23 hours ago

And how do you determine that exactly?

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LiQuid revOlvEr - 555 days 22 hours ago

that is the lamest and nerdiest thing ive ever heard!!

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yesah - 555 days 20 hours ago

if anyone actually looks at th hardware specs, you would know the ps3 is clearly more powerful.

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juuken - 555 days 18 hours ago

@1.37, 360 owners should be playing their many, many, *many* games instead of being here in the first place.

Are they doing that?

I think not.

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lsujester - 555 days 18 hours ago

Hey, Saigon... I wanted to you let you know this now.... that you are a fracking retard. What I said had nothing to do with multi-core anything and had to do with processor architecture and coding.

Just so you'll know, the 360 is also multi-core, and has still proven an easier developmental platform than the PS3 has. It has three PowerPC cores, each with two symmetric threads, which is a total of six threads for your ignorant self. The CELL has one general purpose PPU, and seven SPU's (one is disabled on PS3s), for a total of eight possible threads.

It's pretty fracking obvious that multi-core chips are the way computers are ran now, every major chip manufacturer is doing it. But that does NOT mean that every single multi-core chip is the same as another one. And it does NOT mean that more cores are better in every circumstance.

Look at what Intel and AMD are doing, and even what IBM's PowerPC architecture has. Their multi-core chips are in complete contrast to what IBM/Sony did with the CELL. Their chips emphasize latency over bandwidth, and have things like branch predictors and caches to improve code fetching times and the like. While CELL has an enormous floating point threshold, it still requires very specfic coding in comparison to other, more general purpose x86 architectures. While CELL is a monster at things like scientific computation and running servers, if you used it to run Windows, it'd choke and die. That very specific coding is why the PS3 is harder to program than the 360, not because it has multiple cores. But once developers learn that specific coding, the PS3 is a beast with it's beefed up hardware.

So the next time you decide to run your mouth and say that someone doesn't know what they're talking about, how about you first understand what they said... and more importantly, know something yourself?

EDIT: Also, Sony wasn't the first to anything. IBM's Power4 was released back in 2001. AMD and Intel got theirs going in 2005 and 2006, respectively.

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skychad2222 - 555 days 17 hours ago

the xbox360 and the wii have much better games.
i cant think of any good reason outside "uncharted" to but a ps3...

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skychad2222 - 555 days 17 hours ago

only good game is uncharted

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KingME - 551 days 14 hours ago

NO! what I am saying is that there is a place for a dragster and a track with hairpin turn (Current gaming market) is not it. The dragster is a specialize vehicle that only serves on purpose and that is to blister ahead in a straight line at top speed. Any twist or turns will either greatly affect it's performance or totally destroy it.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 556 days 14 hours ago

all those disagree's just prove your point. How many stupid "the power of the cell" article's have we got on this site?

Yes, why listen to a dev that has been involved with both the 360 and in a lesser extent the PS3 with Sigma? Even though he wasn't leading the team he was involved. Or we should listen to a bunch of commentors with no experience making games on either who are mostly not even old enough to buy beer?

Good to see Itagaki not mincing words and telling it like it is.

NG2 next week!!!!!! I can't wait!

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 556 days 12 hours ago

Itagaki: "I’m very happy with their Dirty Tricks" ;-D

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morganfell - 556 days 12 hours ago

who is more intelligent and knowledgeable. you choose.

itagaki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

or the man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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Pain - 556 days 11 hours ago

I needed a Good laugh to start the Weekend!!!!

Thanks!!

I like how he in deffence mode since his Underling Outshined his Game with a Remake of a Older one ported.

say no to crack kids or u become that guy.

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Montrealien - 556 days 8 hours ago

Talk about someone or something is good or in bad, as longs as you keep on talking about it. Get it fanboy tools?

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Area_51 - 556 days 13 hours ago

ewww,this guys face looks like a damn pin cushing, go get a skin graph loser...get it from your a$$

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 556 days 14 hours ago

LOL check contributer ISA Scum that is so funny haha bubbles +

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ISA_Scum - 556 days 14 hours ago

Is the vid working for you? It's not working well for me.

EDIT: Never mind, it's working fine!

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LenHart - 556 days 14 hours ago

many multiplat titles including GTA4 and IRONMAN look and run better on PS3

there are numerous multiplat titles which look better on PS3 --tiger woods/darkness /Blazing angels/oblivion being examples

x360 cant even handle games at 1080p native

so why even talk

on the other hand GT5p,RR7,WARDEVIl,WIPEOUT HD and NGS all run at 1080p at 60 fps on PS3

X360 will never have anything to rival KZ2 /Uncharted

Far Cry 2 also looks better on PS3 with deeper colour saturation

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ISA_Scum - 556 days 14 hours ago

It's people like you, claiming me to be a troll that are the true idiots. Obviously, you don't read. We all know why multiplats don't do as well on PS3 moron. It's cause it's 360 lead (easy to develop for) and simply ported to PS3. What happened when Burnout/DMC4 were led developed on PS3 and ported to 360? PS3 version = OWNAGE.

You 360 fanboys are pathetic. True split-dev like Call of Duty 4 makes the same or PS3 superior products. Ports=crap and lazy programming.

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Varsarus - 556 days 14 hours ago

Not only was PS3 lead platform for Burnout, but the developers said they weren't using the full power of PS3 GPU, since it was restricted, and still is I think.

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LuHawk - 556 days 13 hours ago

dont nobody care about no burnout get them ps3 controllers out of your butt fool

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joevfx - 556 days 12 hours ago

yaeh siny restricts parts of there hardware the first half year there systems are out cause thats what gives them there 10 years and why there game slook better and better as the system gets older. they did it with the PS2.

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juuken - 555 days 17 hours ago

PoG hasn't taken his meds yet again!

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PR0NE - 556 days 7 hours ago

Hirai-sama, there is some hot dog crap ready to be shoveled into this pig's mouth, waiting for your orders...

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LenHart - 556 days 14 hours ago

"I think Hideo Kojima (director of MGS) is very much like myself."

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Alexander Roy - 556 days 14 hours ago

"I think Hideo Kojima (director of MGS) is very much like myself."

Am I the only one with that slight taste of vomit in my mouth?

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xboxftw - 556 days 8 hours ago

@nasim/lenfart

"I think Hideo Kojima (director of MGS) is very much like myself."

The only difference is he's Hideo and you're Hideous.

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