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Rumour: Splinter Cell Conviction Going "Back to the Drawing Board"

Metal Gear Solid 4? Big deal, right? Look at the Xbox 360 line-up for 2008; it contains titles like Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, Gears of War 2, and Splinter Cell Conviction. Oh, wait, one of those titles won't be hitting this year after all. It appears that 360 owners won't be enjoying an espionage experience this year with Splinter Cell Conviction because the title is being taken "back to the drawing board" by Ubisoft Montreal.
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Splinter Cell Conviction &q... - computerandvideogames.com | By: SickNote
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Published: 579 days 11 hours ago | Rumors | Xbox 360
 
 

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resistance100 - 579 days 11 hours ago
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Ouch, now that's a delay, maybe the reports of it not being fun were true?

I hope the wait is worth it in the end
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scottie2521 - 579 days 10 hours ago
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the way some people on here talk, you'd think the 360 never gets delays
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DARKKNIGHT - 579 days 10 hours ago
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expect them to copy alot of mgs4 into conviction.

for everyone tht ever said sam fisher was the spy of the decade....he just got owned by snake
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tplarkin7 - 579 days 10 hours ago
1.3 - It uses the Assassin's Creed engine.
I beat AC and the ONLY good thing about it was the graphics and animation. The combat was utterly boring and repetitive. It didn't even feel like a game. SCC uses the same engine. I'm glad they realized the problem.
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Silellak - 579 days 9 hours ago
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Why did the title of this article not have the word "Rumor" in it like the original article does?

Oh right. Because it gets more hits that way.

Sigh.

Not saying the news in the article isn't true. It could very well be true. But if you're going to submit an article with the word rumor in the TITLE, then you damn well better include the word in YOUR title as well.

But then I guess N4G has never been the place for anything remotely resembling journalistic integrity. So carry on, I guess.
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Auron - 579 days 9 hours ago
1.5 - @ 1.2
Yeah I cant wait for Sam to be rolling around in a barrel and covering crotches. get real the two games are so different comparing them is stupid.
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ravenguard88 - 579 days 7 hours ago
1.6 - Thank God.
I can't imagine who thought "HAY GUYS U PLAY A BUM WHO SHOOTS HOTDOG STANDS" would make for a good splinter cell game. Honestly, they need to push back to the original, or Chaos Theory. Double Agent was ok, but I hated that "between mission" junk. Give me traditional Tom Clancy: A briefing, get in, do the mission, get out, an after-action report.

If I wanted crowd-based action I'd play GTA. If I wanted urban shooting (a-la Double Agent) I'd play Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon. I play Splinter Cell because I like the challenge of remaining unseen. The stealth is what makes it fun, not the shooting mechanics.
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gaffyh - 579 days 4 hours ago
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Woah Holiday 2009/Early 2010 is a massive delay, wtf is this Final Fantasy? lol.

I think they are going to put more of the stealth stuff back in, that's the only difference it had between MGS, Splinter Cell used to be very good and complex in the stealth area whereas MGS used a simple form of stealth.
1.8 radzy | 579 days 3 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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DARKKNIGHT - 579 days 3 hours ago
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@1.5

eat some tomatoes, they make you smarter!

lol so what? hiding underneath tables, and ooooooooooo throwing chairs is equal to next gen gameplay? because thats better........LOL

fool

its evident that this game sucks (just like the last couple of them) and is gonna be rebuilt from the ground up, heavily following the next gen barrier that mgs4 will BREAK. Notice i said FOLLOW. therefore following in the footsteps of a innovator and leader but never surpassing the genius behind mgs4.
ubisoft will copy alot of mgs4.....imitation is a form of flattery and sam fisher has lost its roots while attempting to become snake for the past 3 years. SO the comparison doesnt have to be forced its pretty apparent who sam fisher WANTS TO BE.....unfortunately for sc fans, he fails like a blind/mute bum at a shooting range.
Youve got to be kidding me if you cant tell this series was heading down the drains long before they mentioned using a chair as a weapon, to be the most exciting part of the game.

innovation owns imitation...im sure kojima is laughing right now at sc being scrapped and sent back to the drawing board. At the end of the day theyre can only be 1 top spot, and kojima productions have that spot secured for a while to come.

dont believe me, you can witness it starting june 12th.
sam fisher got owned, and so did you right now. trade some of your bubbles for some tomatoes, youll be better off.
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Tomdc - 579 days 1 hour ago
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lol which console is the delay station now?
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misterssippi - 579 days ago
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The original story is a rumor. Why is it up here like confirmed news. Fanboyism at its finest.
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Auron - 578 days 22 hours ago
1.12 - @1.9
I'm sorry but the only fool here is you. give me an official statement from Ubi that they've scrapped the project like YOU say. anyways your words don mean sh!t to me you sound like a idiot who worships games instead of playing them. grow up and eat some fish heads they make you smarter.
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riskibusiness - 578 days 19 hours ago
1.13 - Actually....
Assassins Creed used the Splinter Cell: Conviction Engine. Then Splinter Cell Conviction was put on ice to complete Assassins Creed. The Engine was further developed during this process.

I'm not exactly sure what good the current engine will do for the Splinter Cell franchise. I can see why, it may be overhauled. I wouldn't doubt it goes back to it's stealth/espionage roots.
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antoinetm - 578 days 13 hours ago
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sonarus - 579 days 11 hours ago
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WOW. Looks like my SC hating was justified. End of 2009 sucks though. Wouldn't be surprised if a ps3 version found its way in too. If they are going to do splinter cell right, they should definitely put it out on ps3. I played all the splinter cells on playstation except for double agent so i hope they make it happen

In the end, taking that game back to the drawing board was the best decision yet. Not every idea works.
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scottie2521 - 579 days 10 hours ago
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i'd bet it was hard for them to come with something unique that neither MGS4 or Assassin's Creed were doing.

i wonder if someone from the gaming press that played MGS4 went back and told them they'd better go back, start over and try harder.
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Dark General - 579 days 10 hours ago
2.2 - I completely
Agree. I liked Assassins Creed alot i won't lie. And i like Splinter Cell but i didn't want Assassins Creed in my Splinter Cell which looked like how SC was heading. It sounded/looked like AssCreed with a Splinter Cell coat of paint on it and it was letting me down. Now after hearing this i have some faith in the next SC game.
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Amanosenpai - 578 days 18 hours ago
2.3 - @scottie
Yes lol, Kojima sent Ubi a copy of MGS4...

Kojima (post-it): Did u like it?

Ubi team: Fvck...¬_¬'
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antoinetm - 578 days 13 hours ago
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+bubbles

lol
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Bacon - 579 days 11 hours ago
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Well Surfer Girl told us it would get delayed because of how horrible it was. Maybe she was right after all.
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Bonsai1214 - 579 days 9 hours ago
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i could have told you that based on the premise of the gameplay..
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00 - 579 days 11 hours ago
5 - Noooo
Why must my heart be tortured, the should do a new game based on those other splinter cell agents.
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permutated - 579 days 1 hour ago
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Better Ubisoft take it back to the drawing board than release a blemished, broken product like Haze, Lair or Vampire Rain.
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Greysturm - 579 days 11 hours ago
6 - Well....
The problem of ubisoft is that it was obvious after the first 3 installments that they didnt have the slightest idea where they wanted to take the series. The first couple of installments were frankly expansion packs not sequels and when they broke away from it with double agent it was clear that they were out of ideas to improve the series.

Even though mg haters and splintercell fans dont wanna admit it, splinter cell lacks any links between the installments. There is no character development, no backstory and nothing that relates the series besides the same game mechanics and the same main characters. The only redeeming feature of the series was its multiplayer where they actually found a pace and innovation beyond the competition. In my opinion the series should continue with the coop stealth mechanics and refine upon them even if that means leaving fisher behind in the shadows.
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jackdoe - 579 days 10 hours ago
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I agree. I am a Metal Gear and Splinter Cell fan and for me, the big draw of MG was the story while SC was the gameplay. Each did its thing well, but SC:DA was a misstep and I can see Ubi trying to figure out how to get the series back on track.
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Whoooop - 579 days 10 hours ago
6.2 - Yep
That's pretty much it... BUT

I think that if they keep their concept and maybe added a new more interesting simple story, it could be a great game in a FUN sense.

They don't need to re-do the series IMO they can still give us SC fans more of the same, but with more creative ways to spy, or more creative kills and locations etc.

There's much they can do without reinventing the concept or the story.

I always enjoy SC gameplay for its cool way of presenting the spy concept and atmosphere of being undetected.. NOW,for story and epic feeling? I play MGS.
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JBaby343 - 579 days 6 hours ago
6.3 - I Agree With You Guys
In my opinion SC peaked with Chaos Theory. The first 3 games were excellent to play and each was better than the last but DA really let me down and the way this next one was looking I was really getting disappointed in the series. Hopefully they can put it on the PS3 so I can play the overhauled version when it releases because I still have hope.
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Vino - 579 days 10 hours ago
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I don't see the reason people have to argue about console gaming, it's something I enjoy and I don't have any motivation to argue to someone I don't know about gaming. Anyhow I don't really care about this mgs vs splinter cell thing.
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murkster-dubez - 579 days 2 hours ago
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Same reason people argue between favorite football teams
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meepmoopmeep - 579 days 10 hours ago
8 - back to the drawing board
that sounds seriously bad... back to square one... damn
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bouncybullet - 578 days 15 hours ago
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Not official.

probably a rumor.

they've done so much already, theres no way that they're starting from scratch.
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jackdoe - 579 days 10 hours ago
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Hm. Thought the original concept was solid enough. Anyway, a delay was kind of predictable after the lack of information and the previous delay.
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solidt12 - 579 days 1 hour ago
9.1 - No stealth No Splinter Cell
I didn't like the direction they were taking with Sam with the whole blending in to society thing with no stealth. Now I find out the were using the Assassins Creed Engine and it makes since what they were doing. I think they need to stick with tradition and not make a Assassins Sam Fisher game.
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The Lazy One - 578 days 17 hours ago
9.2 - @not stealth
It's a different kind of stealth. Don't mistake that with no stealth at all.

Personally, I was interested in it a lot. It might have worked better as a different game as it was such a departure from the classic SC gameplay.
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DJ - 579 days 10 hours ago
11 - Whoa.
Back to the drawing board? Millions of dollars and years of hard work down the drain. I wonder how much of an impact MGS4 had on the Splinter Cell team.
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Breakfast - 579 days 9 hours ago
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I doubt MGS had any impact...im guessing Assassin Creed had alot of impact, though.

lol...the same 3 missions from assassins, probably plagued this game. Im pretty sure they have most of the game done....but, they just need to make it fun.

Edit: @ Below

MGS hasnt even been released yet...lol...its gonna set standards in a about month, but not now.

The Splinter Cell series aint no paper weight either...

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - 94 average
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow - 93 average
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell - 93 average

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent - 85 average

It got stale this gen...but it's still a great franchise
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PoSTedUP - 579 days 9 hours ago
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i really think that mgs4 had an impact, their similar games and mgs really set the bar for this gen. ya know. it does sound logical.

@ above^^^^yea im not saying splintcell isnt good, but ive seen alot of game play from mgs4 and from what i seen it really looks like it did something special, hence set the bar, because im sure the splintcell team has taken a peak at mgs4.
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sonarus - 579 days 9 hours ago
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MGS4 had very little impact on conviction because they are completely different games. The only way MGS4 could have impact is if they were afraid to be eclipsed by MGS4 sales. However that wouldn't necessarily mean going back to the drawing board because they could just release it a couple of months after MGS4.

They did however get a good look at MGS4 with the whole assassins creed MGS4 deal. So maybe they were intimidated by a lot of that stuff or they got a lot of really good ideas from it and they decided to re do their game
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pwnsause - 579 days 10 hours ago
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Ouch... BTW this game was using the AC engine, am I correct?
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Mr_Kuwabara - 579 days 10 hours ago
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First there was Haze, now there's Conviction..

At least there delaying the game for the benefit of it (obviously)
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Adriana Lima - 579 days 10 hours ago
14 - back to the drawing boards
to copy from mgs4? after seeing mgs4, they have to catch up and do pull-ups to get up on the bar.
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Kigmal - 579 days 9 hours ago
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Splinter Cell did not had to copy anything from Metal Gear Solid to establish itself as a good stealth series.
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Bonsai1214 - 579 days 8 hours ago
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correct kigmal. but mgs4 was basically a reinvention of the mgs series, and konami were pretty liberal about showing it off, so no doubt there was some intimidation factor.
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Whoooop - 579 days 10 hours ago
15 - I feel bad for some fanatics in here...
that were using this game as an excuse to talk down the PS3 and MGS4...

In a sense I'm pro going back to drawing board if the reason is to improve the game around it's main concept.

SC should stick to what it do best and that's VERY COOL tactical espionage.

Hope this is for the best.
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name - 579 days 10 hours ago
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Wth I told you it wasn't coming in 2008 in the other thread and everyone went nanners over me and started calling me a fanboy. They already said this before. I can't believe anyone thought they'd release splinter cell this year with absolutely no hype at all whatsoever. It's just what ps3 owners suspected after all that time without hearing any killzone 2 hype from sony.
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smokeymicpot - 579 days 10 hours ago
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Gives me more time to think about getting a 360. So it is alright for me
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White-Sharingan - 579 days 10 hours ago
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It cant be

Microsoft told me that Xbox 360 games do not get delayed

I trust what they say over this site
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