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Gears 2: "Five Times Bigger"

Epic's big sequel Gears of War 2, which almost cracked a grin from Tomonobu Itagaki during the Xbox spring showcase last week, is "fives times bigger" on the action front.

That's according to exceedingly efficient interviewee Cliff Bleszinski, who says that the second game shows just how much "smoother" the Unreal Engine has gotten.

"[Unreal Engine has] never stopped evolving," Cliff told CVG in San Francisco last week. "The character lighting is vastly improved, the environment is chippable and the tress get knocked down as physics objects.

"There's just so much shit going on, it's five times bigger this time. I think it shows the engines got smoother."

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Fishy Fingers - 597 days 16 hours ago

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All sounds great, and if anyone can push the best out of the UE3 it's obviously Epic.

Only area for concern... "chippable"? So much for destructive.

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edhe - 597 days 15 hours ago

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A lot of the texturing effects in the unreal engine can and are done via code effects, not binary files.

I hope Gears pushes up to about 20 hours, would be nice.

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Daewoodrow - 597 days 12 hours ago

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I'm not too worried about that sentence. To me, "chippable" could also mean it chips away till there's nothing left, which is actually better than "destructible" which sounds to me like "you shoot it and it blows up", like the chairs and fruit produce you get in most games.

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dan-boy - 597 days 12 hours ago

1.3 - just get 4 player co-op included

and i will be happy!

and some different multi-player game types. gears2 should be a great sequel! the first was more than good.

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CrazyMystical - 597 days 11 hours ago

1.4 - did i miss something?

did M$ get BR?

can they fit all this into 8 gigs? (dvd9)

either they going force u guys to install a lot of stuff on ur HDD, use multiple discs, or they going to do some hardcore compression & make the game choppy like G. Bushes a$$.

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Nostradamus - 597 days 8 hours ago

1.5 - Yes, you did miss something, crazy mystical.

He was talking about how the U3 engine has evolved. It can do alot more now with the same amount of resources.

Just because a game is 5 times bigger, doesnt mean it has to have 5 times the storage space.

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Kleptic - 597 days 7 hours ago

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imo UE3 is only acceptable when Epic is at the wheel, with 2k Boston being the only exception...

and yeah, 'chippable' doesn't sound bad to me...Crysis is the only current game that really has fully destructible stuff...other games that claim it don't really live up to that (BF:BC for example)...sounds to me UE3 will be doing stuff like what was shown in KZ2, in which cement pillars break away to reveal the re-bar underneath...of which can't be destroyed...but it makes a really cool effect when someone is taking cover behind it...

in either case, chippable is better than nothing...

and Rein commented on the HDD stuff when interviewed about UT3 on the 360...he said pretty much every console UE3 game they make from here out will have an option for a ~3gig install...for both the 360 and PS3...UT3 had the option already on the PS3, and it helps tremendously...especially with texture pop-in, which it nearly gets rid of...if fanatic see how much HDD installations help with bigger games, they won't point their fingers so much most likely...

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BeaArthur - 597 days 16 hours ago

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How about instead of making it 5 times bigger they make it 5 times longer. The original had good campaign gameplay but could be beaten in about 6 hours. I personally would like to see a campaign that was at least twice as long.

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pharmd - 597 days 13 hours ago

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yeah i agree, it was phenomenal looking but terribly short... some tradeoff eh

5x0=0

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zypher - 597 days 13 hours ago

2.3 - @BeaArthur

completely agree. it'd be a stretch to take "5 times bigger" to mean 5 times longer (that would make the game something like 30 hours), but still i hope they manage at least a 12 hour single player campaign. lack of length was probably my only complaint with the first GOW.

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thewhoopimen - 597 days 12 hours ago

2.4 - @2.3

How are they going to make it longer when they're trying to pump five times the action onscreen and work with DVD space limitations? I think GeoW2 will be the same length or slightly longer than its predecessor.

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Jack Meahoffer - 597 days 12 hours ago

2.5 - Short.... You mean like Heavenly Sword and Uncharted?

Sony fans need to point to a game that actually benefited from Bluray before they throw around "last gen DVD9" every two seconds.

MSG4 is supposed to be like 15 to 20 hours? Where did the 50GB go?

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power of Green - 597 days 12 hours ago

2.6 - 5x better, 5x more bad ass not bigger in size. lol

Seems like all of you need to work on those comprehension skills, did any of you even read anything other than the header?.

I find it comical that PS3 fans worry about it, isn't there better things to do besides troll 360 threads?(this specific remark isn't aimed at #2 or #2.5).

6 Hours?.

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zypher - 597 days 11 hours ago

2.8 - @2.4 and 2.5

sorry. i'm no technology whiz, but i don't see what graphics have to do with lenght of game. while not as impressive graphically as GOW, Mass Effect used UE3 as well, and it was easily 30 hours long. Mistwalker put Lost Odyssey (which was chock full of CG cutscenes) on four dvds. if DVD limitation is the reason GOW was so short, then i'd happily settle for a 3-disc game if it meant a longer single player campaign.

as to Heavenly Sword and Uncharted, you're right. both those games were way too short as well. lack of lenght was my only complaint with those too. so whats your point?

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Prototype - 597 days 7 hours ago

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I agree bigger doesn't always mean longer, I want something that takes time to beat, not overnight like the first.

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JBaby343 - 596 days 21 hours ago

2.11 - @ jack - Considering Blu-ray

Ninja Theory stated that Heavenly Sword was on a 25gig BR and that 10gigs of it was sound (music, effects, voices, etc.) so that leaves 15 gigs of game. Gears 1 is said to take up less than 7 gigs due to anti-piracy stuff on DVD.

My brother and I beat Gears on co-op in 4.5 hours. I beat HS in 9 hours and Uncharted in 12 hours. So yeah twice the space equals twice the length.

Not to mention that Uncharted and HS do things that not even Gears 2 appears to be doing.

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P4KY B - 597 days 16 hours ago

3 - It says 5 times more going on.

Not 5 times longer.

It would be nice if it was both.

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xhi4 - 597 days 16 hours ago

4 - It was short..........

but i thought it was a good length, but i geuss replayability was a bit low.

lol its funny how he takes the piss out of the 360 a bit, 'saving on polys'. That's probably what the smear effect's for.

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xhi4 - 597 days 15 hours ago

4.1 - lol whats with the 3 disagrees?

what are you disagreeing with? beats me :S

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flexbox360 - 597 days 8 hours ago

4.2 - yup

now ur at 14 disagrees and counting lol. people will disagree with anything. dont take it personal

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popup - 597 days 7 hours ago

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I thought the 'saving on polys through clever artists' comment was really sound. They have obviously crafted this game on a frame-by-frame nature (much like the last) to look at it's very best all the time with no rock untextured (so to speak).

It is that level of care and attention to detail that I hope goes into polishing off every last aspect and angle on the already excellent looking Killzone2 on PS3.

Nice to know that there are devs like this out there.

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crillyconlig - 597 days 15 hours ago

6 - needs lenght

G1, it was like going to see a film and only seeing 30min of it

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shanbcn - 597 days 15 hours ago

7 - what does this mean?

"The mountain needs to go to Mohammad in this instance."

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BeaArthur - 597 days 15 hours ago

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haha, good point, I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. Obviously he was trying to be philosophical but that doesn't make any sense to me.

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popup - 597 days 6 hours ago

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http://www.bartleby.com/59/...

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n to the b - 597 days 5 hours ago

7.3 - thanks for the link

that was very informative, bubbles for trying to educate your audience

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name - 597 days 15 hours ago

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no idea

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boodybandit - 597 days 15 hours ago

9 - Title seems a bit misleading

I thought I was going to read about how much longer the campaign mode is and how many more online options / modes there would be. Instead it's about the improvements to the Unreal Engine w/lighting, destructible environments, characters on screen, etc...

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SL1M DADDY - 597 days 15 hours ago

10 - It's nice and all but I would have loved....

For them to make it five times longer. And from the sounds of it, the environments are not going to be all that destructive. Bummer but oh well. It will still be a good rental.

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Strife Lives - 597 days 15 hours ago

11 - GeOW lasted about 15 hours for me.

Cuz once I played and finished it,I had to play it on all the dificulty levels.thats the difference I think.Theres some games that take 12hrs to play ,and you go through it and thnk..thats it? And never play it again.yet,I started a new game of GeOW last week to take a break from GTA4.its got good replayability,and thats mainly cuz of the two player co-op. epic, up that to 4. And wow. . .gna be a showstopper November.

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SlappingOysters - 597 days 15 hours ago

12 - I agree with boodybandit

Make it five times longer as well and we can start talkin..

and make UE3 work on PS3 while your at it

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jtucker78 - 597 days 15 hours ago

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But would you want to swap over the DVD half way through the game though?

Wouldn't bother me as Gears is brilliant, but that sort of think does bother some people.

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jaja1434 - 597 days 7 hours ago

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Did you mind swapping disc when you played FFVII?

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riksweeney - 597 days 14 hours ago

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Why is it OK to write the word sh1t* in the summary but not in the comments?

*Ironically I have to fiddle the word to get around the filter...

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DarkArcani - 597 days 13 hours ago

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because it is taken in context. And people on this site would be calling each other shiitheads if the word was allowed.

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Daewoodrow - 597 days 12 hours ago

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let's face it, DarkArcani, if the mods allowed the word "squeeble", everyone would call eachother squeeble-heads.

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DarkArcani - 597 days 12 hours ago

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lol, squeeble. Bubble for the word of my day.

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segasage - 597 days 14 hours ago

14 - out of the first 13 comments

just 2 xbox 360 fans...i still wonder why some love to troll.

yet those that have expectations, to their liking, have no intentions of getting the game or an xbox 360.

umm why you care again..

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PimpHandHappy - 597 days 13 hours ago

15 - its a PR

sales pitch

its funny because RFOM2 is 6 times bigger then Gears of War

10ppl online vs 60ppl online

4ppl co-op vs 8ppl co-op (with story)

RFOM2 FTW

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thewhoopimen - 597 days 13 hours ago

15.2 - @15.3

Funny thing is that I wouldn't Gears to be 60 players... imagine... 60 people behind one wall or trying to go through a door?
> Nobody is talking about Geow2's multiplayer. The "5 times more action onscreen" from Cliffy is about the single player campaign and that is what I am arguing to LaChance. RFOM1 already had the waves of enemies when it first came out.

The xbox 360 do have games that support that many player... Frontlines: Fuel of War.. 64 players to be exact.. ohh and they have dedicated servers... sadly the game could of be done better.. but I still think the game beat most console games in terms of variety of weapons, vehicles and even drones...

> Are we talking about Frontlines? Because I could swear that the game sucked balls when I played it on the 360. Why even bother throwing 6/10 rated game at me? It doesn't strengthen your argument. What so I should throw WOW back at you and tell you it can display thousands of charcs on screen? Come-on. You ever try a 64 vs 64 game on Frontlines? Why don't you go try it and then tell me how great it is. Finally, the very argument you used about innovative weapons happens to be why RFOM was so popular. There were a huge number of weapons and innovative play to be had with it.

So, the only reason why Gears supports only that many players online.. is because is not a shoot and run game... and now Gears 2 will make that better with the addition of hand combat and other new features... how is Resistense improving to the 1st?

> Again, we're talking about single player campaign not multiplayer. We don't even know if hand to hand is being implemented in multiplayer for geow2. for ex. Who wants to be someone else's meatshield indefinitely?
As for Rfom2's new game features. It's very much under-wraps much like the real in-game graphics. Insomniac has already stated that they were using rfom1 graphic assets in their rfom2 multiplayer gameplay trailers.

uhh.. run faster? Please... RFOM2 will be overshadowed by Gears 2 the same way RFOM was by Gears 1... The graphics are already more impressive on Gears 2... So, keep ranting... it will not make your pain go away... ohh by the way... did you know that Gears supports more online players than Heavenly Sword.... lol... you fanatics are funny... apples and oranges...

>Do you really think insonmniac is going to just make the players "run faster"? If you were the developer and you had 4 more SPUs to work with and 50gb discs, would that be your "breakthrough" innovation? Please. The comparisons between the next games remains to be seen and we can throw which sequel will be better back and forth all day. However, my argument is that RFOM1 was a much better title than you could know (having never played it I'm going to assume).
What is with your left field comments about game titles? Heavenly Sword? When did we even talk about HS?!! Of fine by your logic, upcoming Force Unleased is gonna suck balls for the 360... why b/c it has no multiplayer?!! Oh wait is it b/c the 360 can't handle it?

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Gam71 - 597 days 12 hours ago

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10ppl online vs 60ppl online

4ppl co-op vs 8ppl co-op (with story)

RFOM2 FTW

Er gameplay?
GoW wins.

Just because you can have more players doesn't mean that is an accurate and proportional increase in how many "times" better a game is.

It's down to the experiance you get when playing and that is where GoW beats RFOM.

You comparisons are weak and poorly thought out.

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Daewoodrow - 597 days 12 hours ago

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Just once. Just ONE fu**ing time, I would like to see a news article about Gears of War, where nobody mentions Resistance.

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i Shank u - 597 days 9 hours ago

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pimphandhappy, why dont you get your head out of resistance's ass and look at gears for what it is. or maybe if you like resistance so much, go write that in a resistance thread/forum instead? start a resistance fan club? Do some chimera cos-play? such a hypocrite, dissing this as a "PR sales pitch", then to go and give us a piece of Resistance's PR fact sheet. way to be a tool bag : )

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Hellsvacancy - 597 days 16 hours ago

1 - how can it b that big

they've had such little time 2 make it

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Fishy Fingers - 597 days 16 hours ago

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Most development time is spent on engine development. Obviously Epic havent had that problem as they are constantly working on the Unreal Engine.

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Pain - 597 days 9 hours ago

1.2 - little time to make it?

GoW2 is like Epic's 4th Game!!! this "gen" they had like 3 years to make GoW1 ( was a Xbox 1 game ported to 2) they been making GoW2 since they finished 1, wtf u taking il time to make?

and top it off the game dont look like a Forth Game , Gear1.UT3 ps3, UT3 xbox, Gears2 with ut3.5 and it still looks like 1st Game they made.

but u kids cant see that , and its a NO Brainer that Gears 2 will be 5 times Bigger The game is Using 5 DVDS!!!

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Gam71 - 597 days 9 hours ago

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You clearly don't understand if you think 5x bigger means 5dvds.

You clearly don't understand how games are made and rendered.
1. thats if gow1 used the whole dvd in the fist place.

2. once the engine is on the dvd the rest of the space is taken up with the graphics, level design etc.

The engine then creates the level, charchters, etc and the graphics on the disc are reused throughout the game. Even on the almighty ps3 with its 50GB bluray. Ever come across npcs in games with exactly the same clothes. Thats the engine reusing the same sprites, graphics, character models etc.

5x more game doesn't mean 5x more space.
But a little baby like you can't see that.

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psycho360 - 597 days 7 hours ago

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NOt every game requires 5 years in development. Some platforms are easier to design for. They are called Dev friendly.

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n00bPwner - 597 days 2 hours ago

1.5 - droids are DUMB

the greatest-looking game ever made is Crysis, and that's only 6 gigs fully installed.

LAY OFF THE SONY KOOLAID, DROIDS.

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bumnut - 597 days 15 hours ago

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it will be 2 years in between the games, i think that is acceptable

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Shadow Flare - 597 days 15 hours ago

3 - -Intelligence of the xbot-

An xbot walks into a library and says to the librarian, "Hi, could i have a big mac please?". The librarian said back, "Uh, scuse me sir, this is a library?". The xbot replied, "Oh sorry! (*whispering*) Can i have a big mac please?"

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Gam71 - 597 days 15 hours ago

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A ps3 fangirl attempts humour on a 360 thread and fails...

Again.

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Shadow Flare - 597 days 14 hours ago

3.2 - Gam71

Your sense of humour has rrod

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Gam71 - 597 days 14 hours ago

3.3 - But I have one

Careful any more and you might freeze...

Again.

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Shadow Flare - 597 days 14 hours ago

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...which is something xbox 360 is incapable of since it gets hot enough to melt the floor on which it stands

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Gam71 - 597 days 14 hours ago

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Wow. How long did that take you.

But I guess your use to delays and waiting.

Good comeback. Well not really as all you have is the same comment put in a different way. Original.

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Shadow Flare - 597 days 14 hours ago

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"how long did that take you"

gam71, replying back to your comments isn't the highlight of my day, what have you been doing, refreshing the page every 10 seconds to see if i replied? Neither do i put that much thought into producing the wittiest of comments so sorry if you was expecting a tour de force of humour.

But here's a good joke: You own an Xbox 360

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Gam71 - 597 days 14 hours ago

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Believe me from a ps3 fan I wasn't expecting anything witty much less a tour de force of humour. If I was it would be all hype and a disappointment when actually delivered.

I doubt you have any highlights in your life seeing as it consist of pathetically hijacking 360 threads (why? dont feel bad you bought a ps3. Games will only be delayed for a little longer then you'll have something to play) and poor attempts at the same joke. Seeing as even you with your superior wit has ran out of bleeding that dry your trying to turn the focus on me.

Good luck with that. Your simply trying to convince everyone that thats something YOU'RE not doing but you fail...

Again.

Your right about that good joke.
I do own a 360 and I haven't stopped laughing at you for having a ps3.

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Shadow Flare - 597 days 13 hours ago

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what is with you? I just wrote 1 innocent joke first of all, which people obviously found funny considering the agrees. Then you've been replying back to me as if your comments are my number one goal of the day to reply to....sunshine meet gam71, gam71 meet sunshine. You're getting boring fast, so i'll make this last reply since im on my last bubble.

Btw, NEVER seen anyone use that joke in comment 3 before, so when you say 'repeating the same joke' i guess your refering to repeating the letters rrod. You know why i find that funny? Because, i have a ps3, and you have an xbox 360. Move along now

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@ LaChance, probably cos your one of those airhead xbots the joke is referring to. If you need me to explain it to you, pm me

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ps360fella - 597 days 12 hours ago

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hey shadow im sorry but ur joke was a http://earrapebackingupsoun...

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Gam71 - 597 days 12 hours ago

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Wow shadow.

Are you deliberately oblivious to how this site works or is it accidental.

You got agrees because this is a mainly ps3 fan site and they'll agree or disagree to anything depending on if its a dig at 360 or ps3.
But you know that and are simply playing stupid.

Just because you got agrees doesn't mean you said something worth being here. It doesn't mean the people agreeing with you have any sense or intelligence themselves and have opinions worth taking note off.

Ok so you put one innocent joke (sure) and I replied with an innocent joke of my own to which you replied with another "innocent joke". I put it in quotations because they was really ignorant comments made to rile people up and had no place being made in the first place.
I challenged that and you couldn't take it.

Eventually after you had bled the only childish remark you had you decided to pretend you were taking the higher position.
Shame you didn't start that while you was typing your original comment you would've saved yourself the embarrassment of looking like an idiot.

As for the sunshine comment. Ever hear of a laptop. It's too damn hot here and I'm relaxing in the garden with a lager.
Like I stated before your trying to convince everyone that it's not you doing what your claiming I am. Do you have a crystal ball?
I would suggest getting out yourself, or not. How about getting a personality and adding to discussion's instead of your current poor attempts at passing for something incredibly moronic. (which you succeed at magnificently)

Your comments have slightly livened a quiet day and reading your comments has given me something to laugh at and pity while I potter about but doesn't mean it's my only goal today. If you was on fire in front of me wouldn't mean putting it out would be my only goal or even a goal of mine as it's you. Though I have had a few and need to urinate so you could be in luck, whereas flaming threads that shouldn't concern you and crying at people who use your methods against you seem to be your only gaols. Well done.

What do you want to do when you grow up, IF you grow up.

Now I've explained myself twice but I suspect your still confused. If only I had sock puppets I might get through to you.

"You know why i find that funny? Because, i have a ps3, and you have an xbox 360."

If you could explain that to me that would be great because it looks to me that your experiencing buyers remorse and wish you hadn't thrown your lot in with the side you chose so lashing out for no reason at others who are happy with their choices.

Whats the matter cant take a joke? You felt the need to keep responding yet no-one else can? (unless they agree with you)
sad, so sad. If thats what owning a ps3 does to you then no thanks.

I know I've gone on a bit but its a lovely day and I have the time to.

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You might have the agrees but no-one has posted in your defence.

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ps360fella - 597 days 12 hours ago

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gam71 u dont need it but u get bubbles, on another note to fanboys the word xbot isnt even funny just call them xbox fanboys

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u got owned - 597 days 10 hours ago

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@ Shadow Flare

WOW you are so unoriginal!!!!!!

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Ogrekiller - 597 days 5 hours ago

3.14 - here's one for the psdroid:

A blind guy on a bar stool shouts to the bartender, "Wanna hear a PS3 joke?"

In a hushed voice, the guy next to him says, "Before you tell that joke, you should know something."

Our bartender IS a PS3 owner, the bouncer is one too. I'm a 6' tall, 200 lb black belt. The guy sitting next to me is 6'2", weighs 225, and he's a rugby player. The fella to your right is 6'5" pushing 300 and he's a wrestler. Each one of US is a PSdroid. Think about it, Mister. Do you still wanna tell that joke?"

The blind guy says, "Nah, not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times."

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Madmax1281980 - 597 days 1 hour ago

3.15 - @ shadow flare

...which is something xbox 360 is incapable of since it gets hot enough to melt the floor on which it stands.

thats funny considering that the ps3 gets just as hot if not hotter than the 360 but what should i know owning a ps3. hell my pc runs cooler and thats running a amd fx62 dualcore 3gb ddr2 ram and a xfx9800gtx 512mb and it runs pretty quiet oh and its on 24/7 for the past year and a half.

oh and before i forget i might own a ps3 and like it very much i prefer the xbox 360 go figure..... so if theres me how many more ps3 fans prefer the 360 over the ps3?

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MaximusPrime - 597 days 15 hours ago

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5 times bigger.

xbox's eye turns red. electronic voice : overload alert overload alert. arrrrgghhh it burns it burns

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Ogrekiller - 597 days 5 hours ago

4.1 - Better than the PS3-

if one inserted the GeOW2 disc into the PS3 it would vaporize
(The PS3 of course, not the GeOW)

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meepmoopmeep - 597 days 11 hours ago

5.1 -

no they said it's 5x bigger "in action" not the length of the game

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n00bPwner - 597 days 4 hours ago

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moron. if it were 5 times longer, that would make it 55+ hours; not 25. I think you're getting confused with each God of War game and Lesbian Sword. But at least God of War rapes ass, whereas Lesbian Sword SUCKS pu$$y.

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Bill Gates - 597 days 14 hours ago

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I'm sure they're referring to the size of the BOOTS that the characters will wear........AHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

5X bigger my ass.......AHAHHAHHAHAHA

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Gam71 - 597 days 13 hours ago

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If your a yank I'm sure you do have an "ass" thats 5x bigger.

lolz hahaha etc.

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Tony Scarboni - 597 days 12 hours ago

7 - They aren't saying the game is 5X longer

They're just saying because of the improvements to the engine the scale is 5X bigger.

The draw distance isn't necessarily longer(most weapons dont fire that far anyways), but the backgrounds are much more detailed. In the last Gears you never saw mountain ranges or cityskapes - it felt a little boxed in.

Of course there are more enemies on screen, but we have yet to see footage of them actually interacting. In that first clip w/ the derrick, when the player aims at the 40 or so enemies on the ground his crosshair never goes red, he couldn't shoot them.

To say the game is 5X bigger is a bold claim, the new version of the unreal engine is bound to be taking up more space - how much is left for actual content on that 7.5gb dual layer DVD?

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ELite_Ghost - 597 days 11 hours ago

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i guess there's gonna be 5 dvds, that sucks...

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Hellsvacancy - 597 days 11 hours ago

9 - @elite ghost

lol

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n00bPwner - 597 days 8 hours ago

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5 times bigger = 5 times more crushing power to end the PS3's pathetic existence.

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ELite_Ghost - 597 days 8 hours ago

10.1 -

one game won't do shet to ps3! GoW is the only good game coming out for 360 this year.

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MANCREEP - 597 days 8 hours ago

10.2 - @ n00bPwner

couldnt agree more

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psycho360 - 597 days 7 hours ago

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Once again, droids roaming freely in 360 news. Get a life guys or are you tired of waiting and only watching trailers?

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Xbox is the BEST - 597 days 2 hours ago

11.1 - Or

watching movies.

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Micheal Cray - 596 days 22 hours ago

12 - Swapping Disks

Is SWAPPING DISKS after a full night session that bad? I personlly swap from Forza 2 to NBA2K8 at least once a day. It's not that bad, so that argument is null and void. The texture pop in was the only flaw for me, reguarding GEOW. 4 player co-op will probaly be like Halo 3, which isn't bad. Here's an idea; GEOW 2 packaged with 2 game disks and 120 gig hd and making of disk for a Franklin, that would sell...right? I mean that would open up the 360 for more hd driven titles, aging it nicely to keep up with Big Blue. Add a price cut to the system from core on up, introduce a counter for Wi Fit and this holiday season will be up for grabs. Otherwise, the gap will close between the 360 and PS3, while the Wi will hold strong.

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jinn - 596 days 10 hours ago

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seems like it will

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