Rare: People are "less tolerant of really long games"

SeanScythe - 594 days 21 hours ago

In other words this game is short. I'm sorry but if the story is really good I love long games. I don't enjoy spending $60+ on a game that is less then at minimum 8hrs unless it has a good story or multiplayer.

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SickNote - 594 days 21 hours ago

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TheHater - 594 days 20 hours ago

I played GTA IV like 80 hours already. I guss he is wrong.

edit: I have yet to play online. all of that 80+ hours has been on single player

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jollygoodchap8 - 594 days 20 hours ago

If the game sucks people are less tolerant.

If the game is amazing people will want more.

EDIT: Seriously, did he smoke a bowl before he made that comment? I hope he had that crap out his head while making BK3. It better not be like 6 hours long or some crap >:(

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JoelR - 594 days 20 hours ago

All I ever hear is -the game is to short... so somewhere there is a disconnect between what some developers want to believe and what most gamers feel.

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Hapimeses - 594 days 20 hours ago

Well, he's not speaking for me.

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sa_nick - 594 days 20 hours ago

In australia a game costs me $120, I want it to have at least 30 hours of single player game play. Thats why games like GTA and FF will always be so better than all these new games that take 8 hours or less.

And people say "oh but it has muliplayer". Screw that, multiplayer sucks, 99% of ppl on the servers are jerks and its never any fun. Online gaming for the most part, sucks.

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PirateThom - 594 days 20 hours ago

Rare are dead to me.

Banjo 3 will have waggle and be short and will flop.

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shadowmask - 594 days 19 hours ago

Way to generalize but I think the age of Hardcore gaming is over, as developers now cater more towards the casual market (the majority)

Gaming becoming mainstream has killed off the games for us hardcore.

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tonytouchx - 594 days 17 hours ago

is this guy high or what? cause i love games that are long rather than short,can somebody remind this guy that games are freaking 60 dollars a pop,so sorry i want my money's worth. So i take it this game is going to suck ballz!

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Tmac - 594 days 17 hours ago

Sounds like a piss poor excuse to make a shorter game.

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tonytouchx - 594 days 17 hours ago

no wonder rare is so dead,they havent brought a decent game and years,what happend with games like killer instinc,that was the sh1t,i love that game,ever since they got bought out,they havent brought anything great:(

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Maximus - 594 days 17 hours ago

"People are less tolerant of really long games"

this guy must be new to the biz

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avacadosnorkel - 594 days 15 hours ago

on disc space?

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Ureval - 594 days 15 hours ago

There is room for both. Im hoping Fable is longer the Molyneux has said, or that the side quests are entertaining cause 15 hours is just not long enough for a good RPG. COD4, perfect example of a great short game. But an RPG should be a large adventure. Banjo makes sense as a 10-15 hour adventure.

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PS360WII - 594 days 15 hours ago

That's what the Silicon Knights dude said and the Bioshock dude... these devs are thinking wrong :(

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smokeymicpot - 594 days 15 hours ago

The game is still 20 hours that is pretty long by todays standards

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Xi - 594 days 15 hours ago

if you make a long game you have to make sure you have enough content to satisfy the casual user base then create the rest of the content to satisfy the hardcore user base.

20hours is long enough for a platformer.

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KingItachi - 594 days 15 hours ago

Sorry Rare I like my games long.

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kewlkat007 - 594 days 14 hours ago

at least throw your input at what the guys I trying to say.

It all depends on what type of gamer you are.

W/Jrpg gamer
Hack & Slasher
Platformer
Racing
Shooter

As there are some games that fall into the MIX, but I've heard people complain the game became to "repetative" towards the end and theys sorta just whizzed through it. I think depending on the game sometime towards the end it does get boring.

*Obviously this guy is not talking about your HARDCORE gamer that is dedicated to spending more than 20 Hrs+ in a week for gaming purposes.

HONESTLY if your a "3 console Owner", with all the games coming out this year 2008, Do you really have time for all? If not, you'll probably will not complain about gaming lengths unless it's like 2 hrs to beat or something.

I do agree some games are short, but you gotta imagine not all gamers are created "EQUAL". I know guys that will beat games in a single sitting without blinking..lol While some it takes a lot longer depending on the game /difficulty /time they have to play. To me the degree of difficulty is one factor we forget about how long or short a game may feel. As far as this game, no one has played it...too many assumptions.

I Beat Eternal Sonata in like 25 hrs and I'm playing Lost Odyssey and on 80Hrs. Does that mean ES was short, not really it was just on the EASY side. You can run around "fights" since you can see the monsters since it's not random. LO a whole different ballgame.

So answer this: If a game id "DIFFICULT" enough does it need to be 20 hrs long?

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skynidas - 594 days 14 hours ago

So banjo will be a short game

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AclayPS3 - 594 days 14 hours ago

I guess that pretty confirms that Banjoe Kazooie 3 wont be a long game,but I have to disagree with that statement about people not tolerant for long games.

I like long games with long campaign/story mode. I guess that guy must have forgotten about RPG's or something. But, I do wish that more games that are non-RPG's were a lot longer.

It seems like the majority of developers are making up for short games these days with multiplayer, but I really don't care that much for multiplayer.

I think that there should be a requirement for video games to be a minimum of 13 hours long.... at least that way we would all know that we were getting a full $60 dollars worth without multiplayer because everybody doesn't play Online or Multiplayer.

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Spartacus - 594 days 14 hours ago

Has anyone read the whole article? Here's a quote from later in the interview:

"The trick is not forcing everybody to play it for a colossal amount of time. So if people want to try and complete it in like 20 to 30 hours that's fine. If people want to then carry on, that's fine."

BK: NB will be 20-30 hours long, but when you throw in the amount of customization one can make with the 1600 different pieces, and combine that with multiplayer, the game's much longer. He's saying make the main quest a decent length, for the people who play casually or don't have a lot of time, and add depth and replayability for the hardcore gamers who wish to continue playing for longer. Hypothetically, BK: NB could last 40+ of hours!

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Kareem - 594 days 14 hours ago

Personally speaking it actually depends on the genre, for an FPS title I don't expect more than 15 hours compared to an RPG title where I would prefer around 40hours. But the interesting part about all this is that I have actually never completed any title I own ranging from 30 to 40hours . I'm not half way through Forza and I'm starting to become very frustrated because the game is so demanding. You literally pour your soul into that game, but my busy schedule cannot meet those demands.

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Keowrath - 594 days 14 hours ago

Yeah, I am very deeply saddened that MGS4 is reported to be 30 hours. There was me hoping the final part was going to take an hour to complete. =/

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zypher - 594 days 14 hours ago

most "People" aren't really tolerant of games at all. however, most "Gamers" love long games...you know, how all those millions of "Gamers" bought GTA IV knowing full well it'd be at least 50 hours long. this generation surprises me in a good way one minute, then baffles me the next. last generation games were cheaper and usually longer. this generation games cost more are shorter...with online multiplayer tacked on. for $60 i want both quality and quantity. Gears of War, Uncharted, Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, etc. are all overpriced for the scant longevity they offer. and from the sounds of this article Banjo's gonna be a short one too.

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cliffbo - 594 days 14 hours ago

in other words the 360 has only DVD9 and we need to start putting this argument forward because once Blu-ray starts getting used properly the 360 games will be smaller in comparison. expect to hear this argument a lot in the next year or so

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Asurastrike - 594 days 14 hours ago

lol? Where was he when Heavenly Sword came out?

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Howlie - 594 days 12 hours ago

I think that is how games like GTA appeal to most (casual and hardcore) gamers alike. If a gamer wants to beat the game and doesnt have much time to play, then they can play it straight forward to beat it. If they want to go back for the 100% when they have some more time then they can do that also. Some people can only play on weekends, so shorter games would appeal to them more than 40+ hour games.

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wessly - 594 days 6 hours ago

What this dude over at Rare didn't realize is, that the number one game in the world right now is 40 to 60 hours long (GTA 4)., real gamers don't care how long a game is as long as is fun to play from beginning to end. Seriously if you just want to half-ass your games and make them three hours long, not to mention their feakin' $60.00 dollars a pop. you should not be doing games at all, go make movies or something., you lazy bum.

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yanikins111 - 594 days 6 hours ago

I love long games. If im gonna spend money on them i want a decent return...

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JadeTyrant - 594 days 20 hours ago

If I pay $60 for a game, I want 60 hours! But that's just me.

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Tony Scarboni - 594 days 15 hours ago

What a load of BS. People don't mind a long game, as long as its good! That is more than I can say about Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, and Viva Pinata. C'mon Rare, make a good game b4 you make a claim like that. Its been a few years since DK country and Goldeneye.

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juuken - 594 days 14 hours ago

I like long games because they keep me involved. As long as the game is good and makes sense, I don't mind the longness at all.
And what he said made absolutely NO sense at all.

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Karebear - 594 days 14 hours ago

If you have to build for a system with no hard drive and DVD only space limitations, you get shorter games as graphics and sound space demands increase. Its not rocket science.

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Xlll - 594 days 14 hours ago

Sorry but if i'm shelling out $60 on a single player game it better be good and as long as they can possible make the game. I don't care about story mode lengths in online shooters i pretty much just head online before playing the offline part of the game. If your going to make a single player game i don't care for which console, put some effort into the length and the replay value.

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MainEventX - 594 days 14 hours ago

Looks like Banjo is gonna be 4-5 hours long then lol

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