Xbox 360 "Jasper" 65nm GPU in Production

Action Bastard - 597 days 2 hours ago

Microsoft has NEVER acknowledged the root cause of RROD. There are various theories behind it, but without confirmation, that's all they are...theories. There is one constant though, 360s RROD. Arcades, Pros, Elites and Halo editions. This will no doubt help prolong the life, however. An improvement is an improvement.

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Charlie2688 - 597 days 1 hour ago

@Action Bastard: EVERY single person that has ever bothered to understand the why and the how of the RROD knows that 99% of the RROD care caused by the GPU becoming loose from the mobo, knowing why it happened pretty much makes any "failure percentage" pointless since were are not talking about "faulty parts" or some minor problem in the assembly line in a specific batch of consoles were are talking about parts that were not correctly placed while designing the 360s hardware layout (GPU under DVD drive plus and initially very small heatsink) and a cooling system that was not properly tested to work under those conditions (low power fans, slow responce from the fans, a LOT of cooling "leaks", poor cooling distribution) so that makes pretty much every single non modded 360 succumb to the RROD eventually the recent internal changes pretty much extend the time before the 360 will eventually RROD (maybe not today or next week but since it HAS the problem it will eventually malfunction) and I use the word malfunction since since we are not talking about damaged parts or burned components we are talking about a simple and perfectly working GPU becoming loose (takes average PC building experience and 30 minutes plus the right tools to fix it, its actually VERY easy)

So basically if MS finds the right balance between a good cooling and support system (the X clamp) and parts that emit less heat (Jasper is the first step) were might not be talking about "reducing" the normal RROD but COMPLETELY eliminate it (under normal circumstances of course), right now Jasper is the first step in reducing the heat emanation of the problematic GPU (a 45nm one might almost guarantee to solve it) but also MS HAS to COMPLETELY redesign the ventilation system (better fans, faster espince time from the fans, bigger heat sinks and a good hermetically sealed ventilation tunnel...adding an extra internal fan to push air around might be a good idea too since the modd ones did help) if we are to expect any change beyond just adding some life before inevitable malfunction

my only advice to any current owners (specially if you are launch one) is to heavily consider use external cooling SPECIALLY AFTER the 360 has been turned off to help ventilate the trapped hot air (a good 12mm pro fan with external plug pulling cold air INTO the 360 thru the right honeycomb/vent will do that job, and do remember the for every hour you heavily play to cool it approx for 15min after being turned off) this will make you avoid the RROD for as LONG as possible so you will enjoy your games without so much worry...like Ninja Gaiden 2...coming next month...buy it XD

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BIoodmask - 597 days 2 hours ago

"Chip process evolution is a usual thing in a console’s lifecycle."

All consoles go through this process. That is why late in a consoles lifecycle there is usually a smaller rendition of the connsole. A good example is the smaller PS2 that is being sold today as compared to the original PS2 model.

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Amanosenpai - 597 days 2 hours ago

Not solving a "badass"(i mean, its not a simple feature problem) hardware problem after like 3 or 4 generations of Xbox 360, tons of repairs, tons of pi$$ed off customers, and a great amount of wasted $...

Is just dumb... anyway, this is a good new for xbox 720 users... right???

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Muff1nB4k3r - 597 days 2 hours ago

You've got a good point bloodmask, however, correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the ps3 already reached the 45nm process?

back on topic:

I eagerly await the increasing level of reliability in the xbox 360

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Denges - 597 days 2 hours ago

hey the beta test is over :P

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gogators - 597 days 1 hour ago

has anyone ever labeled their box with the name of the motherboard or chipset the console is currently using.

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tojfs7931 - 596 days 14 hours ago

The average joe consumer will just scratch his or her head and go whuts that?

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alexM - 597 days 3 hours ago

Give up MS

It is over for u in console war.

PS3 has surpassed x360 in LTD for EUROPE

GTA4 sold more on PS3 in europe

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Denges - 597 days 2 hours ago

be reasonable

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Amanosenpai - 597 days 2 hours ago

denges

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