Mark Rein confirms mods will be coming to Unreal Tournament 3 on 360

Glad to be a gamer - 597 days 14 hours ago

so smooth just like doa4 only a few occasions have i experience lag when playing people in japan. I hope tekken 6 will be as good exp online.

Secondly this is great news i was so hoping that mods would be announced. Well done epic for coming up with a solution and not forsaking your fans that own 360's.

Split screen and mods who would have thought it? sweet.

Edit WHOOPS! meant to post in thread 2.

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Statix - 597 days 13 hours ago

I kinda wonder what will be the extent of the selection mods that will be distributed through XBL. Could just be a couple of the major mods that don't violate any copyright regulations. I guess it would be a no-go and a big no-no to Microsoft/Epic to being able to play as Solid Snake or MC or any other unnofficial game character in the 360 version, or whatever mods that contain copyrighted stuff.

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sonarus - 597 days 12 hours ago

Not probably statix. No mod support period. Their plan is to track down the best mods and make it available thru xbox live. I wonder if they will charge for them i truly hope not. Anyways the mods won't be as much as ps3 since it is not real mod support but it is better than nothing.

Sorry to sound so negative guys but this still isn't mod support but great job on epics part though for making those mods available. Already have it on ps3 so this news doesn't really affect me. Great job on epics part though. Lets just wait and see how much mod support 360 version will get

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 12 hours ago

Anyone that has ever played UT knows that this series has always been about user mods, maps, and mutators and now the major feature of UT history will not be freely moving onto the 360 and that called getting shafted.

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MikeMichaels - 597 days 11 hours ago

Mark is using the 360 fanboys to help sell his game.

Pulling their little strings with comments like....it's gonna look a little better, we promise. Now it's, ummm...yeah, were going to try to put mods up...somehow. Even though it impossible to keep up with the scene considering all the red tape (ie certification and such) they have to go through for any type of addon pack.

He'll saying anything to get them worked up and its sad that allot of them will fall for it.

Just look at morons like Jason360...eating it up! hahahaha.

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fenderputty - 597 days 11 hours ago

It still suck that it's not full blown support but, it's better then just 5 extra maps. lol

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sonarus - 597 days 11 hours ago

Most 360 owners have already written the game off. No one likes a game that is late to the party.

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 10 hours ago

People just do not get it. The 360 won't get most of the mods at all. Mark says they are coming but they are still trying to work the issue with MS. They haven't had a lot of luck there.

Remember when CliffyB said he wanted the Gears map pack to be free. Was it? Yes...after what, 6 months or so. You paid to get it when it mattered. If I were people I would save this page so you can remember some of the comments certain people here were stupid enough to make. It is going to come back and bite them in their dumb ass.

I read a comment by theMart, er, I mean Jason360 that said he could make mods and upload them to his 360. NO YOU CAN'T.

We read the article. You just do not know how mod support works. You can't upload mods to your 360 from your PC. You are going to have to get them over Live. MS isn't going to allow you to do what PS3 and PC owners can do. What part of that simple equation can you not grasp? Mod support isn't truly in the 360 version. What you are getting is no different than anything else you download as an add on for a 360 title...like Horse Armor.

Mod support is about free architecture and the 360 isn't getting that.

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NO_PUDding - 597 days 10 hours ago

Well, these mods won't come with the game. Becuase then you'd be paying for it. And that would be illegal.

It sounds like they are actually goign to hire soem of the mod creators to help them, becuase then he says "even if we have to get some people and bring them over ourselves".

Crazy dude.

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marichuu - 597 days 9 hours ago

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Xiphos - 597 days 8 hours ago

I wonder which ones they'll be getting. There are tons of great mods and maps.

Snarf pack? Tiberium? Odysseus? Sharlow Street? Tokay Towers? Campgrounds 2k8? Siege Reactor? ...I could go on all day.

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Glad to be a gamer - 597 days 6 hours ago

the fact that Epic are using this as a solution is commendable. I am cynical as well as to how they will manage to update this regularly as the mod scene progresses. I suppose we will see how it goes

Only problem is with ninja gaiden 2,Mgs4 and gta4 round the corner i wonder if gamers will pick this up?

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Hatchetforce - 596 days 12 hours ago

And the support of MS is damnable. Microsoft touted user created content before the 360 launch. I have over 70 maps on the PS3. This is 360 owners getting less than they should. Far less.

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skynidas - 597 days 15 hours ago

and u got it 8 months later

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Vip3r - 597 days 15 hours ago

But no keyboard and mouse support. :)

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Bathyj - 597 days 14 hours ago

You still wont buy it. Just like no one bought Virtua Fighter 5.

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MattFoley - 597 days 14 hours ago

Not true there is an adapter.

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marichuu - 597 days 14 hours ago

@Jason
I bet you won't even be able to tell the difference as the game is too fast for details.

@happyjimmy
That comment tells me more about you than him.

@Vip3r
If I wanted keyboard and mouse, I'd be playing on a PC... they just don't belong on consoles.

@Matt
Yes, which Microsoft doesn't approve.

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Jason 360 - 597 days 14 hours ago

FEAR, Lost Planet, Oblivion, The Orange Box, Stranglehold, Blazing Angles 2, GRAW, Condemned 2, Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell DA, Medal of Honor, Fatal Inertia, Sonic, TimeShift, and The Darkness?

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Statix - 597 days 14 hours ago

You mean you got a few mods (probably just a couple new game modes and maps) that they select for you.

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Jason 360 - 597 days 13 hours ago

I can make a mod and distribute on Live, no matter how the process is done, I can still get my mod on Live. That would be called "mod support" no matter how you try and spin, if I can get my mod on Live then thats what it is.

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Statix - 597 days 13 hours ago

No one knows the extent of the "mod support" in the 360 version, but I highly doubt it will be the same as the open architecture and system as the PS3 version, where anyone can download and install any mod they want. The mods have to be officially approved, sanctioned, and processed/reprogrammed by both Epic AND Microsoft's certification process before they can be distributed through XBL, which means you can say goodbye to playing with copyrighted assets/alternate game characters, or goodbye to some of the smaller, more obscure mods.

This is definitely not full-blown mod support like the PS3, for sure. This is more like Epic doing a favor to the disadvantaged 360 fans by porting a couple of the more major, popular mods that exist out there.

EDIT: And don't phantom-disagree with me just because I actually read the article, put up an informed, corroborated argument, and proved you wrong. You know who you are.

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Soren the Cat - 597 days 13 hours ago

Who needs mods, extra maps, and a better graphics? I don't even look at that stuff!

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mistertwoturbo - 597 days 12 hours ago

Seriously, the inconsistency is ridiculous. I could quote that UTIII "sucks" or "we'll be playing gears 2 instead" back when it first came out on the PS3. But now it comes out on the 360 all I see is "Yay, we have mods, splitscreen, and better graphics!"

I thought no one cared about UT III? I thought mods didn't matter? I thought all that was wanted was "5 official epic made" maps?"

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Ri0tSquad - 597 days 10 hours ago

So it took them 8 months to get the feature...and whats your point again? Mark Rein is just trying give 360 owners a reason to buy a game PS3 owners have enjoyed months ago.

Jason360 continuously getting owned by the same garbage he spews out is becoming old news.

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Homicide - 597 days 10 hours ago

I'm gonna point and laugh if you need to pay for mods.

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marichuu - 597 days 9 hours ago

@Homicide
First you'll have to point and laugh at the ones who even buy the game :p
UT3 just isn't needed on the 360, Halo 3 is enough to keep the sci-fi fps fans happy. UT is just old and not fun.

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Bad_Karma - 597 days 9 hours ago

you aint getting mods unless microsoft put them on XBL plain and simple and there is no way on this earth that you personally are gonna be uploading mods to XBL unless you work for Microsoft which you dont AND if you do get mods ,enjoy paying for them lol coz if microsoft can make a buck out of you they damn sure will regardless of what EPIC wants . As for you extra exclusive maps ..lol .. how long do you think it will take someone to cook those for PC and PS3 ? (if they are worth it ) .

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marichuu - 597 days 8 hours ago

@2.16
Sorry to disappoint you, but Kane & Lynch just got a FREE addon on XBL :p

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Bad_Karma - 597 days 7 hours ago

Sorry but the only thing disappointing about that is that they actually made DLC for such a shyte game ... OFC the DLC for it is free .. the game should be too .

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marichuu - 597 days 7 hours ago

@2.19
Oh don't say that, if it was free I'd actually try the game xD

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Fishy Fingers - 597 days 14 hours ago

Thing is, at is core UT is really a pretty shallow game experience. It's the mods that give it longevity and life. I'm not sure what you guys think are capable with mods, its not just maps or new cheats. It really is limitless, in theory, if you were good enough (say as good as Epic o_O), you could create Gears of War from the SDK.

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Bathyj - 597 days 14 hours ago

Its not just shooters. Why doesnt R* give us mods on GTA? Can you imagine the potential of that. 10 times better than any DLC. Mods could bust that game wide open.

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Lumbo - 597 days 14 hours ago

main fault with your argument is: hardly any "exclusive" games for the PS3 release on PC, ever.

Compared to most of the Xbox360 "exclusives" like Gears of war and Halo or Bioshock which released on PC shortly after their console debut or at the same time so far... That reduces the incentive to buy the system cause you can get the games on the PC you already have anyways.

Compared to the way exclusives are KEPT exclusive to the Playstation you will just have to buy the PS3 to play these games. You won't get FinalFantasy 13 on PC, you won't get MetalGearSolid4 on PC, you did not get Singstar on the PC, neither Resistance or Ratchet and Clank or Uncharted.

PS3 exclusives are real exclusive, you have to buy the system to get them, not only 'first' but at all.

And the typical fanboy point following that would be: but but but they are "timed exclusive" or "console exclusive" while both are laughable at best. Something is either EXCLUSIVE, or it is not. And if its on PC and xbox or PC and PS3 its not exclusive, its multiplatform :p There is no "little bit exclusive" like there is no "a little bit pregnant"

PS: that does not say that multiplatform games can't be good, quite contrary Gears of War was pretty good as was prolly Halo2 and Mass Effect (have not played either so i won't make any judgments here but people say they are good and reviews do, too). Its just that these fail as "system sellers" cause you don't need the system to play them ;)

And i wouldn't say people would buy the PC version over the console version if they own the console, but if they don't they neither need to buy the system to play, thats the point ...

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reading this again i think i repeated myself, but i blame the tiny edit box :p im to lazy to rewrite it, just ignore the repetition

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marichuu - 597 days 14 hours ago

@Bathyj
GTA is probably trying to be as realistic as possible. So stuff like low gravity or space weapons shouldn't exist... not even in mods.

GTA already has.. what was it? 16? different multiplayer modes. I don't think it's fair to ask more from R*.

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kewlkat007 - 597 days 13 hours ago

"main fault with your argument is: hardly any "exclusive" games for the PS3 release on PC, ever.
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I'm just talking about this game, don't give a hoot about other PS3 Exclusitivty. That's another Topic.

I'm not gonna analyze every situation and every game. The PS3 doe snot share the same Architecture as the PC and Sony is not pushing Games for Windows Live initiative. We know this.

I guess this is one of the Exceptions, where it hits the PC and PS3, so thats that.

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Delive - 597 days 14 hours ago

That's probably a difficult answer. Common sense says yes, from past experience with Gears maps Epic wanted to make free. They started at a Fee, but went free later. If MS could force the hand and make us pay for a map pack that Epic made, would Sony follow suit? Or would Epic say "Well, they have to pay for it, so you do too PSN"? Then the PC would be the only choice for free mods from Epic.

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SL1M DADDY - 597 days 13 hours ago

At the moment, the PSN offers an open network where user created mods are free just as they are on the PC and due to MS's closed network, they have the power to force developers to charge for DLC. It seems to be a way for MS to make the buck even if the developer keeps the price low and refuses a profit at the expense of their fan base. I do wonder if it is the closed network that forces this and that we see how the open network of the PSN allows for more generous devs to keep the extra content free. In reality, the PSN doesn't have much to do with the mods for the PS3 version as they are all able to be downloaded on your PC then uploaded to your PS3 circumventing the network all together. No need to download them through the Sony PSN so no work on Sony's part thus they are free.

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Delive - 597 days 11 hours ago

I guess what I was referring to was the downloaded pack released 3 weeks ago (or so). Epic remade some of their old maps and released them free on PSN. If they do this on Live, would it be free there too? If not, would Epic start to charge for their own content, not the user generated content.

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Doctor Who - 597 days 14 hours ago

another rubbish x-P.C reject game i DON'T want for my Ps3

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Sony sucks balls - 597 days 13 hours ago

I think Scott e is mentally retarded and that is why I won't make of fun of the window licker.

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Z F1GHT3RS - 597 days 12 hours ago

KOJIMA JUST CREAMED IN HIS FACE AGAIN, " ITS NOT POWERFUL WHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 12 hours ago

Exactly Scott. These idiots do not realize they will not get an inkling of what is available. They are so stupid they have not bothered to look at how the mods work, or considered the fact they are at the whim of someone else.

It's laughable and just another case of MS screwing customers while some of those custoers laugh and smile and ask MS to keep shafting them.

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wow4u - 597 days 11 hours ago

@1.5

You're delusional. Putting these mods on the Xbox 360 isnt a technical problem. Every word on the matter has always been "we need to work out how, because we want to maintain high reliability and security for the consoles and LIVE".

They dont want rampant cheating and security threats -- AND NEITHER DO I.

It would be *TRIVIALLY* easy to write a mod that launched a DDoS (or other disaster) to some kind of trigger. How about writing random garbage to your EEPROMS?

I dont want that junk on my console. I have the ability to restatge my PC, so I'm not worried about such things on my PC, but a console is *not* a PC.

All that said -- MS isnt screwing anyone. They're using their heads, Sony is going to get kicked in the balls for this and when they do, I expect *YOU* back here saying how MS was right all along.

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PSMonster21 - 597 days 11 hours ago

If by mods you mean three maps epic selects to put on the marketplace for 10 bucks then wooo YOU GET MODS!!! HAVE FUN!

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Pain - 597 days 10 hours ago

wow talk a about hypocrites...then again u are Xbox fans ....

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 10 hours ago

Don't worry Pain. The bots are the same morons that were slobbering to get MGS4 on the 360. When common sense and repeated slapping by the facts began to make them understand it wasn't happening, they start attacking that game.

Now they are getting a title they once attacked when it came out. Funny how their tune changes. Talk about being two faced. They also understand nothing about PS3 security. They are immediately spooked by anything some MS rep has to say. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT BS EXCUSE IS FOR NOT DOING SOMETHING THEY PROMISED BEFORE THE 360 EVER LAUNCHED.

One of the reasons I picked up a launch 360 was to get this wonderful feature MS was bragging about. User created content. Has it happend? No. Now what will they get. A few maps and mutators that MS selects for them? That isn't a piss in the bucket compared to what we run now on the PS3. We have so many maps we do not even play the ones that came boxed with the game. And you can forget about skins that MS deems to be not to their liking either. The mutators we use most often didn't come with the game either.

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Statix - 597 days 1 hour ago

For the very last time, THERE ARE NO MODS IN THE XB360 VERSION. If you would actually READ what Mark Rein is saying, and read the damn article, you'd realize that what he meant by "mods" is that they couldn't get Microsoft to allow the XB360 owners to freely install any mods they download, so they're doing a favor to the 360 fans by personally PORTING a COUPLE of the more popular mods themselves, by hand, and distributing them through XBL as downloadable add-ons (possibly for a price).

You people just DON'T GET IT: There are NO MODS FOR THE 360 version. What you'll basically end up getting, according to the words of Mark Rein, is probably around 5-6 extra game modes or so, and a couple new maps. This is compared to the 2000+ mods, maps, and characters that are available for free to the PS3 version of the game.

THERE ARE NO MODS ON THE 360 VERSION. Sorry to break it to the dyslexic 360 fans out there.

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Ali_The_Brit - 596 days 15 hours ago

yeh WE got b!tch slapped... enjoy your game 3 months after we did

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mrlokievil - 597 days 15 hours ago

Not really. PS3 owners get to make their own and there are already tons of maps and characters available for free. 360 owners have to wait to see what epic decides to release. Not the same at all. You can also kiss any new characters goodbye because they wouldn't be allowed to release copy-righted characters through live.

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PSMonster21 - 597 days 11 hours ago

And you spew bullsh*t from your mouth again...nothing new.

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power of Green - 597 days 6 hours ago

I try and tell PS3 fanboys to stop owning themselfs but they don't listen.

They create this fictional world on this site and try to make(people)believe. Now they're making excuses in the gamer zone saying its not full mod support holding on to any nonsense they can to comfort themselfs despite the 360 version being superior in every way. lol

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PSMonster21 - 597 days 11 hours ago

Dude your my fu*king hero. I wish i could make comments like you. Damn amazing.

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brothersimon - 597 days 14 hours ago

oh yeah?

well guess what, your version is outdated, we got the better version :-D

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Z F1GHT3RS - 597 days 12 hours ago

JUST LIKE WE GOT THE !!!BETTER!!! VERSION OF VERTUA FIGHTER!!!!
!!!!!!!WITH ONLINE PLAY!!!!!!!!!! XD

DELAY THIS GEN BEYOND

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 12 hours ago

Yeah, the version where you can freely mod the game? No. Dumbass. The version where you can download mods directly to the console from a website or only from a service you pay for that determines what mods you get? Dumbass. People like you enjoy being dictated.

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PSMonster21 - 597 days 11 hours ago

Well your system is outdated...we get the better one.

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Vip3r - 597 days 14 hours ago

I noticed that too. Kinda funny how their getting all excited over something that isn't completely true.

XD

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wow4u - 597 days 11 hours ago

Its kinda funny you two refuse to recognize what you just read.

Epic has just told you, "We know some of these great mods are going to play a role on Xbox 360, even if we have to get some people and bring them over ourselves," he said. "We'll figure it out."

So, it looks like Epic (and/or Midway and the LIVE people) will be providing the compiled Mods.

I think Xbox 360 owners will be *VERY* happy to know that their is some kind of security/quality control -- and they'll be happy to get the top X% of worthwhile mods.

In actuality, the Xbox 360 owners are getting the *BETTER* mod support. The PS3 owner is left to wonder about what kind of security risk or possible danger to his PS3 he's getting from some random mod.

While the Xbox 360 owner will be getting professional quality / security control distribution channel for his mods. Epic/Midway could set-up a nice Forge-Halo 3 bungie.net portal for Xbox 360 owners to review the mods, perhaps allowing for Download from the Web. Or, they could just deliver them in-game via the regular DLC method. Very nice, very elegant - no BS. Clean, quick, good.

In fact UT3 PS3 mods is a mis-mash mess of cruft, and the Xbox 360 will be getting the worthwhile mods with confidence for their security/quality.

PS3 UT3 mods < Xbox 360 UT3 mods.
PS3 UT3 "out of the box" < Xbox 360 UT3 "out of the box".

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brothersimon - 597 days 14 hours ago

okay lets review this situation

xbox live
EXCLUSIVE SPLITSCREEN
EXCLUSIVE 5 NEW MAPS AND 2 NEW CHARACTERS
mods
achievements
better controllers for fps games
better system
epic even says it looks and plays better on 360

if u want sources, go search 'ut3' on here :)

i aint even a fan of ut, but sounds to me like ps3 got owned, and we have the version worth waiting for

might even end up buying it, dunno.. ;D

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Hatchetforce - 597 days 12 hours ago

Ha ha, I already have over 10 new characters that aren't in the 360 version. I CHOSE THEM, NOT MS.

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wow4u - 597 days 11 hours ago

A PS3 owner bringing up "waiting" for anything is just TOO funny.

How do you like Virtua Fighter 5 Online? Oh, you dont. How about the Oblivion Expansions? Oh, did you know the last one was free for Xbox 360 owners? There are *dozens* of other instances. Ace Combat 6? Eternal Sonata? Fcuk, those last two are _Japanese_ games!

By the time PS3 gets up to speed and is remotely worthwhile to own, they'll be giving out BluRay players free with cellphone purchases.

Face it, you guys got snookered for Sony's MPAA division. Sony doesnt care about games, they care about preserving their DVD-sales revenue.

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Z F1GHT3RS - 597 days 6 hours ago

YOU ARE TELLING US ABOUT WAITING FOR A GAME.
OH WHATS THAT.... I CANT HEAR YOU....... TAKE SONYS DIK OUT YOUR MOUTH AND TALK PROPERLY DRONE.
LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A GAME FOR 2 YEARS.

DELAY AND WAIT BEYOND
PHONEY

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Jason 360 - 597 days 14 hours ago

Can I make a mod on my PC and get it up on the 360? uhhhhhh, yup. So stfu, stop crying you lost.

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MrBii - 597 days 12 hours ago

Uh no.

Are you illiterate or just plain stupid.

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Jason 360 - 597 days 12 hours ago

"We know some of these great mods are going to play a role on Xbox 360, even if we have to get some people and bring them over ourselves," he said. "We'll figure it out."

Is it even possible for you to get dumber than you already are? Were you born stupid, or did you get this way by accident? Spend alot of time banging your head against a wall as a child did we, or did you eat to many lead paint chips?

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PimpHandHappy - 597 days 12 hours ago

you will notice you have been disagreed with. dont worry. Thats the bots and there multiple accounts

They want to take Mark Riens word that it looks better then the PS3 version. What they dont realize is this dude is just trying to sell his game. He knows the small market share MS has really bites hard on "are game looks better" talking points

here is the thing

Not many ppl who post here have the trained eye to see the difference!

have fun paying for your limited mods MS slaves

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wow4u - 597 days 11 hours ago

"He knows the small market share MS has really bites hard on "are game looks better"

Wow, what colour is the sky on Planet Stupid?

Last time I checked, 10M PS3s was much less than 18M Xbox 360s.

*AND* As for marketshare, well, the Xbox 360 has the HIGHEST ATTACH RATE in HISTORY.

You know how many copies of UT3 Epic sold on PS3? 410,000. Can you imagine that?

UT3 on PS3 is 30th on the list of top selling PS3 games, with 410,000 copies.

If a Game sold 410k on Xbox 360, it would be *82nd* in the sales list.

Turok, F.E.A.R., Scene It?, Condemned, The Darkness, EA NBA 08 LIVE **ALL OUTSOLD*** UT3 on PS3.

What does that tell you about "marketshare".

The fact is that the PS3 is SOLIDLY in last place the world over, and the games just arent selling.

There are more people paying for the premier Online Service Xbox LIVE than there are PS3s on the planet FFS.

IN NO WAY can PS3 be considered a leader in the marketplace. When this generation is over, the PS3 is going to become a cast-study in failure. From 1st straight to last. Utter failure.

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AngryTypingGuy - 597 days 10 hours ago

Mr. Bii, I don't know if you were talking to me or not, since I was the post right above you, but I said "I'm glad that mods are coming to the 360 version, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT OPEN MODS". I know that we're not getting the open mods, at least not right away. Learn to read moron.

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MrBii - 597 days 6 hours ago

I ask again, xbot, are you ILLITERATE OR WHAT!?

Mark Rein: "We know SOME of these great mods are going to play a role on Xbox 360, even IF WE have to get some people and bring them over ourselves," he said. "We'll figure it out."

So where did it say you can make a mod on your PC and port it over to the 360? On the contrary my stupid xbot friend. Rein pretty much confirms here that there is no mod support and that EPIC is uploading some of these mods on XBOX LIVE so you stupid xbots can enjoy 1/10th of the game us PS3 owners have been enjoying since december.

OWNED
The article pretty much confirms what I have been saying and not what you claim.

Stupid boy.

Learn how to read.

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Jason 360 - 597 days 5 hours ago

Here let me use some pop up books, and some finger paints to paint you a picture.

"So where did it say you can make a mod on your PC and port it over to the 360?"

How else are the mods going to get to the 360 or PS3, other than using PC? Can we magically sh!t mods from our asses, then get them on a console? What if we use fairy dust and sprinkle the mods on the console? Better yet lets teleport the mods there, or use a black hole generator or gravity gun. No......? well then I guess I'll just have to use a PC.

"even IF WE have to get some people and bring them over ourselves"

That means they will get the mods on the marketplace for people to download and play using the copy of UT3 they purchased, "somehow".

I even used the quote you put up, thats right "you" put it there and you still don't f*cking get it.

F*cking dunce

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MrBii - 596 days 19 hours ago

THEY DIDNT SAY YOU COULD PORT MODS OVER. THEY SAID THEY WILL BRING IT TO YOU, IDIOT.

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