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Mark Rein: No chance of PS3 UT3 split-screen - PS3 owners "should be happy" with user-generated mod support

PS3 owners can forget about split-screen coming to Unreal Tournament 3, Mark Rein has told VideoGamer.com.

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at the official unveiling of the Xbox 360 version of the game in Las Vegas this week, Rein said that PS3 owners "should be happy" with the inclusion of user generated mod support.

When asked if split-screen will ever come to the PS3 version of UT3, Rein replied: "I don't think so, because this is what's in this (the Xbox 360 version) game. I think it would be a big job to go back and retrofit that game for split-screen. I just don't think we have the resources to do that unfortunately."

Rein did, however, reveal that Epic hopes to "make some improvements" with mod support on PS3 "some time down the road", although he didn't want to commit to specifics.
Cyrus365 - contributor
Published: 627 days 6 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360
 
 

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BlackIceJoe - 627 days 6 hours ago
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Well that sucks I would love a patch for Split-screen. I would even pay for it. I think 5 dollars would be the price I would pay. But if Epic does not want to bring it over to the PS3 I am not going to get mad. But there loss they could have had some free cash.
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Cwalat - 627 days 5 hours ago
1.1 - 'mark rein
i think this is a new low for Epic,
its not PS3 fault that MS are stuborn...
so why do this ? i know we got mods but still... its not like they'll loose something on it...

this is a total bi*ch slap in every PS3 owners face who bought UT3..
basically saying, f**k u, no u already got a cooky and because ´Timmys mom didnt want him to get one u wont get a popstikkle..
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Fishy Fingers - 627 days 5 hours ago
1.2 - ^
Stop being dramatic...

"this is a total bi*ch slap in every PS3 owners face who bought UT3"

when you bought UT you didnt know the 360 was getting split screen so why should it bother you now? You thought it was worth it then, whats changed?
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Soren the Cat - 627 days 5 hours ago
1.3 - @ cwalat
I'm going to go ahead and say your metaphor lost me a little bit, and I don't think it was because of the spelling.
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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@fishy fingers, the difference is that before the 360 details were revealed, people thought that it (split screen) wasn't possible. After split-screen was revealed, people realized it was possible and should have been in the PS3 version as well.
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Cwalat - 627 days 4 hours ago
1.5 - fishy fingers
okey i got a little bit over the top there...
but u gotta agree...
PS3 had nothing to do with the fact that MS wont let mods into 360..
so why should PS3 get less ? splitscreen is pretty huge for many ppl... especially fokes that want to invite friends over to try the game out...

mark rein decides to cut out PS3 from the splitscreen party, not Sony...
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Palodios - 627 days 4 hours ago
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I rarely make predictions, but I SAID, downright, that this was going to happen, and it did. I was really hoping for a 4-player split-screen when this game first launched, because that's what I like, multiplayer split-screen. The gameplay of UT3 is downright incredible and the graphics are gorgeous, but in all honesty there is nothing to this game but online. 5 gameplay modes, crummy AI for Warfare, and no splitscreen? I'm not bashing the game, its multiplayer is topnotch, but no one can deny that the singleplayer experience is just awful. No wonder why this game sold so poorly, anyone who wanted the game is just waiting to play it on XBOX live.
Seriously, give us PS3 owners some respect and maybe people like me will buy your game instead of just renting it.
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psycho360 - 626 days 20 hours ago
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Sad, but it might have been due to dismal sales on ps3.
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pwnsause - 627 days 6 hours ago
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its obviously to make up for the no mods issue on the 360, so they kept that exclusive for them.
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chaosatom333 - 627 days 6 hours ago
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At least this cleared that they are NO-MODS.
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nutjuice - 627 days 5 hours ago
2.2 - Epic is going to deliver
Free mods via download through LIVE.
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pwnsause - 627 days 5 hours ago
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nutjuice, you mean free maps, not user generated mods. the mods that pc users create to send them to the other console.
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kewlkat007 - 627 days 5 hours ago
3 - "I think it would be a big job to go back and retrofit that game for split-screen. I just don't think we have the resources to do that unfortunately.""
Yes unfortunately Gears of War 2 beckons the call and we must and will deliver this Nov.

So no Mods..oh well I'll live.
Ok I feel better now now get to it.
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nutjuice - 627 days 5 hours ago
4 - this "should b happy" comment
would never have been made in regards to Microsoft and it's obvious how Epic feels about Sony, and it's fans.
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games4fun - 627 days 5 hours ago
5 - its sad really
ut3mod.com has some awesome mods people should take a look at the "nowhere" map it has a lot of destructable environments and the ut2d mod is great its just too hard for people to figure out how to do a simple file transfer? i wish more people bought the game and could take advantage of all the free stuff i also wish that Epic made a decent sp mode for it though it would have gotten more sales/reviews if it had
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davez82 - 627 days 5 hours ago
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i shouldn't be happy with your laziness mark, i also didn't buy ut3 cause i knew this was coming, thanks a lot for the betrayel.
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fenderputty - 627 days 4 hours ago
6.1 - Dramatic a little?
The best thing about UT3 is the mods. Every single PS3 fan, including myself, would say the same thing and did so in a story not long ago(Story about UT3 getting 5 exclusive maps since no mods). The PS3 version gets that. Hell ... someone is probably gonna copy the "exclusive maps" eventually anyway. PS3 users get a constant supply of fresh content to keep the game alive. Xbox 360 people don't. They get split scree. A function that makes online play suck(especially for such a fast paced game). Why are people acting like this is a big deal?
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Fishy Fingers - 627 days 5 hours ago
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And we are. Well at least I am. This is Unreal Tournament, comparing split screen to mod support is ridiculous.
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Finch - 627 days 5 hours ago
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You know! I would take mod support all day long compared to split screen!
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Rob4Vendetta - 627 days 5 hours ago
8 - dammmit
this sucks...i'm still one of those who plays this game and was looking forward to more stuff...dammit epic
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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PS3 owners should be "happy" that they get an unfinished product? No thanks. While I appreciate mod support, I still would like a finished product. Split-screen has been a staple of console first person shooters for the longest time. Also, the quote makes Mark Rein sounds like a real ass.
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captainpwn - 627 days 5 hours ago
9.1 - Unfinished product?
You may have what you call a "finished product," but with the PS3 version we have an "extended product." Additional content added daily? I laugh at your finish product that's not out yet and am going back to playing my Lego and Halo mods on UT3.
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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For the record, I own the PS3 version of the game. So don't start talking trash to me (on a side note, welcome to my ignore list). Mod support and split screen are two different beasts. I WANT split-screen; it isn't quite as fun to play against some unknown people on the internet.
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Fishy Fingers - 627 days 5 hours ago
9.3 - ^
You bought it before you even knew split screen would be coming to either platform. So you must of thought it worthy of purchase even then.
Its fair to be disappointed that we wont get split screen, but "unfinished product"? Stop over doing it.

You get what is on the box, thats the finished product, anything else is bonus, not expected.

It wasn't rushed. The 360 version was delayed. PC doesnt have split screen, was that "rushed"? Your just being a drama queen because they get something you want but cant have. How do you think they feel about mods?
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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Truth be told, I DIDN'T know split-screen wouldn't be included when I bought the game. I assumed it would; after all, split-screen is a staple of console FPSs. And I'll admit, maybe unfinished is over doing it. Rushed is the better way to describe it I suppose. And while I may have thought it would be a worthy purchase at the time, I have since been hit by buyer's remorse. I really, really miss Assault.

-edit- It WAS rushed to hit the December 2007 release date. Tell tale signs of this: European release didn't occur until months later, mod support was a bit wonky (models for example), and some of the basic features of online were not working that well(voice chat). Not to mention the fact that so many people were caught unawares to its release. And WHEN does a PC shooter have split-screen support? Give me an example. "Drama queen"? When you are dissatisfied with something, you keep quiet about it? Of course not. I'm doing the same here. I am dissatisfied with the lack of split screen on the PS3, now that I know it is plausible, and am making my voice heard.
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Palodios - 627 days 4 hours ago
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Unreal Tournament for the PS2, Unreal Championship 1 and 2, and Gears of War all had it. there is no reason to think there WOULDNT be split-screen.
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psycho360 - 626 days 20 hours ago
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I agree Jackdoe. Split screen is saving grace for people who dont have broadband connection or cannot connect to internet for gaming for whatever reason. The game gets old quickly if you only play with the AI (not using the word bots :P). I dont know the details but split screen and online will be even more of killer.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 627 days 5 hours ago
10 - sorry
But that's just pure laziness.

I love the game, but split-screen is a huge part of multi-player these days.

I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous.
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captainpwn - 627 days 5 hours ago
11 - Not enough resources?
That's code for "Microsoft shoved cash down my throat to keep it exclusive."
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supaflypriest1 - 627 days 4 hours ago
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No, thats code for, "We're going to put 100% resources towards Gears of War 2".
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Kigmal - 627 days 4 hours ago
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No thats code for " Xbox 360 needs something exclusive" PS3 version has mod support and you're b*tchin' about split screen? Just stop.
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f789790 - 627 days 5 hours ago
12 - WTF
I guess I'll buy the pc version since split screen on the PS3 was all I wanted. They shouldnt have to make up for no mods on the 360 by saying no splitscreen on the PS3.
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supaflypriest1 - 627 days 4 hours ago
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My goodness, the game is coming out much later than the PS3 version, PS3 owners have been able to enjoy for months now, while 360 users have been waiting. I would hope that they would add something to it. Most of the time although we hate them, delays are good things...Oblivion came out 1st on the 360, turned out to be a good game, it came out a year later on the PS3, turned out to be a more polished version, what else would you expect???
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lodossrage - 627 days 5 hours ago
13 - Id take mod support over split screen ANY DAY. HOWEVER,
It's not sony or it's fans fault that microsoft is so tight up about user based content. It's almost like he's saying "you guys have this" "these guys have that"

Which is in other words punishing one group for the other groups subborness.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 627 days 5 hours ago
14 - wow
Is it possible to mod split-screen?

cuz um...DO IT!
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skynidas - 627 days 5 hours ago
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:( I wanted split-screen...well WTF GTA IV will be out in 11 days so i dont think ill play UT3 soon
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justgamez - 627 days 5 hours ago
16 - Did Mark Rein
really say this or is this one of those things that will be debunked by tomorrow? I hope so because hearing things like that from a dev makes me want to pass on future games from them and I don't want to pass on Gears 2.

We should be happy? I will be happy when devs do their jobs and stop taking sides and nickel and diming us to death this gen. I applaud Epic for allowing user created mods but this is a direct slap in the face that un does what a great feature that is.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 627 days 3 hours ago
16.1 - well
I think it's just that the PS3 version had a very small audience...

It may or may not have to do with the fact that it was released around the same time as Call of Duty 4 though. I mean...seriously. What did you expect, Epic? You can't beat COD4's multi-player.

It's like Capcom complaining about Lost Planet sales on the PS3. They released it with a mandatory 5 gig install, sub-par graphics, and AFTER COD4, UTIII, & Uncharted. Come on!

It just makes me sad because they'll probably not use the PS3 much in the future.
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v1c1ous - 627 days 5 hours ago
17 - i'd rather have....
mods over split-screen honestly
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Nitrowolf2 - 627 days 5 hours ago
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i have a ?
if there are free maps for 360 couldnt someone come up with a mod version of that map?
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Skerj - 627 days 5 hours ago
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To any PS3 owner who thinks otherwise, mod support IS better than split screen. Come on, the game is infinitely customizable for you.
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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That is true, but I still want split-screen and I think it was and is foolish on Epic's part not to even try to incorporate it into the PS3 version. The thing is, this must have been how Gears 360 owners felt when they found out that PC owners got the Brumak fight all to themselves.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 627 days 3 hours ago
19.2 - yeah
But they also have to pay 50 dollars a year to play Gears of War online...

I know...I bought the thing. I can't play it online anymore. I'm screwed.
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Cyrus365 - 627 days 5 hours ago
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Personally If had a choice of having mod support and playing like 100's if not 1000's of maps, 3rd person views, various iconic characters, etc. OR split screen support, I think the choice is easy...
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jackdoe - 627 days 5 hours ago
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Epic SHOULDN'T have forced us to make a choice between the two in the first place. Bear in mind that if MS wasn't so uptight, the 360 version WOULD have had BOTH mods AND split-screen, and that would really have pissed me off.
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Cyrus365 - 627 days 4 hours ago
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Why, that's like 6 months of getting it later, that's the price to pay when getting things first.

For example 360 had Oblivion out first, and on the PS3, it was better looking, and had the extra missions added on (Cept Isles expansion pack), 360 owners had to pay for all the extras.
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jackdoe - 627 days 4 hours ago
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Yes, I realize that there is a "price" to pay when getting things first. Like the online component in VF5 360 or the Brumak encounter in the PC version of Gears. Doesn't make me any less angry about it though.
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m-s-8-2 - 627 days 4 hours ago
21 - Mods are all well and good
but are kinda useless with the tiny player base. Plus, UT3 was rushed on the ps3, hence the lack of mic support and comstant freeze-ups for the first 3 months before they patched it.

Dont care much for splitscreen myself, anyways, but the way he addressed the issue? YEah, he's a jerkoff
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shysun - 627 days 4 hours ago
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I'm happy with the mods! THX Epic!
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