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Following the release of Sony's Gran Turismo 5: Prologue, VideoGamer.com has created a video feature pitting the PlayStation 3 racing giant against Microsoft's track-based brawlers Forza Motorsport 2 and Project Gotham Racing 4.
In addition to the video we've also put together some screen grabs from similar sections of race track and taken a closer look at the car models.
So, which do you think looks the best?
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Breakfast
- 635 days 20 hours ago
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lol...rub dirt all over the 360's face
2 look like a video game...the other looks semi-real
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GT5 eats forza and PGR4 up for breakfast lol.
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Breakfast
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lol
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MURKERR
- 635 days 19 hours ago
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1.3 - THE LONDON SHOT
really terrorised pgr4's,all this from demo,crazy
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I agree the GT5P lighting in London is boss.
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Mr Playboy
- 635 days 16 hours ago
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1.5 - sorry man your are wrong
here is pic from PGR4, I think It look much better than GT5p
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http://img522.imageshack.us...
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Glad to be a gamer
- 635 days 10 hours ago
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1.6 - Funny thing is
You could either be playing a game with 6 tracks, 71 veichles, limited customisation and bare bones online
or for the same price play a game with 310 cars(exc dc=39 ),37 tracks(exc reverse and dc=5), deep customisation inc paint job and fully featured online mode(inc tournaments)
Or a game with 137 vehicles(inc bikes), 9 whole cities(80+tracks), track editor and full online mode(inc tournaments)
I didn't even mention damage or weather effects. not to mention in ign Gtp got 8.5 for gameplay and forzaa 2 got 9.5. all for the same price.
You can either go for better graphics or a better game and wait for Gt5 or Forza 3.Easy decision really.
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wageslave
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"gt eats forza 2 and pgr.." is that really honest?
Look at those pics. One is for a beta GT5P, the other is for a game that is A YEAR OLD (Forza 2).
They dont look _that_ much different.
Forza 2: 90/100 & GT4 89/100 from Metacritic.
Further, unless GT5 does some actual innovation in gameplay and features, then Forza 3 is going to eat its lunch.
Goto
http://www.forzamotorsport....
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Gaming is not just a graphics pissing-match guys.
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HighDefinition
- 635 days 20 hours ago
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GT5 (the real one) Vs. Forza AND Project Gotham 4.
Would be more fair. Sorry, but it`s true.
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fenderputty
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2.1 - Considering that by that time,
GT5 will have been in development for yet another year, it would make the comparison even less fair. It looks better now and that margin will only continue to grow as they work on it.
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Some_One_Plays
- 635 days 19 hours ago
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PGR4 came out on the second year out since the XBOX 360's launch and Gran Turismo 5 is looking at late 2008 or early 2009. It isn't Sony's fault that they didn't launch their console a year ahead. If it does come out in 2008 it would be the same time frame.
Look at Perfect Dark Zero to Resistance: Fall of Man both launch titles and only one is still talked about today.
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"Look at Perfect Dark Zero to Resistance: Fall of Man both launch titles and only one is still talked about today"
maybe you should be comparing RFOM to Xbox 360's other launch title, and also 2005 GOTY, Call of Duty 2.
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да всё это херня
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When was the last time you heard anything about COD2? CoD4 is on everyone's lips now, but CoD2 is old news. Game of the year? maybe, but its completely forgetable compared with God of War, Civ 4, San Adreas, and Resident Evil 4, as well as the original Guitar Hero.
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>Graphically< if you leave the fanboy goggles at the door its clear who the winner is here. GT5p.
But graphics are only one piece of the puzzle. Eitherway, just play the one you enjoy and forget this whole fanboy war malarkey.
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I am all about bringing back the term "malarkey"! (If it is a common term in other countrys and I am just ignorant to it, so be it)
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Actually if you leave out fanboism, those screenies certainly didn't do GT5p any favors cos I certainly don't see photorealism in any of the pics.
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Since when is dev time an issue? Or an excuse. We are talking the best, not least amount of time. Valid excuses for getting stomped in the graphics department = 0.
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tell it like it is. No allowance or humility was given when some thought it only looked so good because 'there's only 1 car on the track' so why should it be given now. Bubbles for trying not to flame though
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MrBii
- 635 days 18 hours ago
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is because its twice the game length Forza and PGR4 COMBINED are.
GT5 will sport over 800 cars. Each car has over 200k polygon count. Now THATS an unfair comparison.
They did twice the work both Forza and PGR are doing. And you are complaining about development time rofl. And its only taken a year longer. Thats why GT5P is released for the fans.
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The Lazy One
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GT5 didn't do more work. Car models are one of the easiest things on earth to have a third party do. Not to mention a lot of them have more to do with retexturing the car and giving it new stats than actually modeling a new car.
I'm not saying the data doesn't take time, but the number of polygons in each car wouldn't increase time as they probably only modeled a fraction of them in house.
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Looking at those pictures, GT5 is exceeding Forza 2 -- lets see some video that give Forza's sense of motion some justice (the purpose for all that "blur" at the edges -- but no one can say it is "stomping" Forza 2.
Frankly, after all the hype, I expected to see the GT5 graphics actually exceed Forza 2 by "more".
But Forza 2's quality lies in physics, destructable models, weather, online features and on and on.
Graphics are just ONE part, and honestly, looking at those pics, GT5 isnt "stomping". Sure, it is looks better, but only marginally.
Dont forget GT5 wont release until next year, and Forza 2 is a year old.
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A 40 dollar demo for a multi-million dollar game in production for years and completely backed by sony, vs a finished product of two games.
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5.1 - I pick the demo
Nuff said
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lol 4 jurassic park man;)
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6 - PGR4
Has more effects and just generally looks better. Although Forza 2 gets killed by GTP5.
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That's just too funny.
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And that explains the complete lack of shadows?
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lol thats a lot of disagrees...
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Its not often i actually lol when I type lol. But i did just now.
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I disagreed with you because from the screenies, GT5p wasn't that much better than Forza.
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they got owned by polyphony... and it's only a "demo"
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GT5P all the way .)
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Still shots of the three games doesnt say much about which game I'd like to play.
Now, compare all the NON-graphics elements of Forza 2, and GT5 has _much_ to be worried about.
Besides, Forza 2 & PGR4 are out _TODAY_. GT5 isnt due for 8 or more months (at best).
When GT5 ships, we should probably be seeing some screens of Forza 3 or PGR5... then, will we be here comparing an unfinished game to a game that has been out for 12 months?
No. The same gaggle of blind zealots will be here claiming that GT5 is best because of the name on the box (just like FF).
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GT 5 FTW
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This is sad. We all know who wins this. I don't even have to say it, because I have telepathy.
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The other two look like Wii games when compared to Prologue.
- Rick rolling since 1966
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lol! that was a bit harsh
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Prologue, definitely.
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How is this even a contest?
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well i think GT5 is not comparable to fronza and PGR4... is way out of there league.
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lol comparison. Why would anyone do this ?
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I never noticed that gt5 had such "flat" road surfaces. There isn't even a fake looking tire mark or anything...That is just plain odd.
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lol the answer is quite obvious
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GT5P
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pwnsause
- 635 days 19 hours ago
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GT5p hands down, graphically and physically.
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1.2 - PS3 4ever;)
There not bad Forza Motorsport 2 and Project Gotham Racing 4 for Wii Graphics...
Oh what there xBox 360 games??? Sorry!!! ;-D
+Gotham??? Is Batman in it!!! ;-D
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why are we even discussing this? GT5 shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.
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you mean by having no damage at all? hardly any customization, jack for online options...great simulator...you waitstationary 3 losers love shiney objects dont ya?
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yea we like shiny objects that look very real, like the car you have parked in your garage, BTW where was Forza in the NY auto show, oh wait, GT was there, cause its the most respect racing sim in the market, thought so.
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hahahaha, that was a kickass comment :P
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looooooooooool!! king kaz you're the best!
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Nunalho
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3 - LoL...and they keep comparing Half a game to a full game...
And GT still looks much better.
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4 - I don't even have to look. I have seen them all.....
GT5 is KING. Forza is meh (meh)= Meh, and PGR4 is just a rushed tech demo.
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Typical fishhead tactics. Take a game that has been in development for ever and then compare it to 2 older games to try and squeak out a win. GT5 has great car modeling for the CRAPSTATION (tm) but unless you want to lie to yourself the environments and weather effects in PGR4 hand GT it's own ass on a platter with a side of rice.
The fishheads suffer from some of the most blatant and obvious inferiority complexes I've ever seen from a group. They have some little wee wee syndrome that everyday on this site it is like a little white man in his Honda Civic turning his bass up louder and louder to get someone to notice him or to make people think his little pecker isn't the size of a french fry. To bad it is always full of fail.
MaSSIVE DamAGE!
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seriously...HAHAHA at the PGR4 vs. GT5P pics of London...
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And they say ps3 can`t do good gfx? With much better gfx than the x360, much better reliability, bluray an a stellar line up you gotta be mad to still choose the x360 over the ps3. But i guess the fanboyism will make some people play Banjo Kazooe than pick up a ps3
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From forza 2, u can tell that 360, like Hillary, has already shows its age.
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GT5 looks so much better.
don't get me wrong forza looks good but GT5 is hands down better quality.
cant wait until the Full/Complete version of GT5 comes out.
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1 year to go but im pretty sure ur used to waiting like all the rest of ps3 fangirls
WAITB3YOND
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That we waited for game and you waited for the fixMe to comeback and btw you used to RROD right?
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Don`t forget this is just a taste of whats to come. You have not played the full game yet so you don`t know of the features it wil include. And i guess forza simulates how to drive a car sitting on the bonnet or up in the trees as there is no in car view. When was last time you drove a car sitting on the front bonnet? Dumbass!
So far neither GT nor Forza have done a real sim they`re still far off, but GT is just that little bitt closer to being a sim especially with damage confirmed.
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BUT BUT BUT I THOUGHT THE 360 HAS MORE POWER
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BUT but nothing. All that means is PolyPhony or whatever has different skills(GT5 doesn't do anything other than look good for one. You talk about powerful when the other games are doing much more in the background at the same time. lol.
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use that sarcasm to all of your inferior multiplats
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Stange how PGr4 always looks 40% worse on the net then it really does or atleast with pics people find to compare them to GT5.
PGR4 overall blows GT5 out of the water. Strange all the PGr4 pics people find for these comparisons are always dark and no light when in fact PGr4 has wonderful lighting and reflective effects etc.
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- 635 days 17 hours ago
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PGR4 is no doubt a very good game. I hate arcade racers but i love pgr4, but is just no match to GT5P which had left my jaw on the floor. Funny thing is that GT5P looks even better when playing than it does on the replays.
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Varsarus
- 635 days 17 hours ago
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Sorry but GT5p kicks the crap out of them two.
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ravinshield
- 635 days 15 hours ago
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12.1 - wtf
the damb forza pics looked way better that the gt5 pics
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^^^you are right...I like blurry draw distances too...and I love the Cruisin' USA look of the one bleacher not being fully drawn in...not to mention the first pic, where you can clearly tell in GT5P that there is an overpass ahead...where as in Forza 2 it looks like a smudge of mustard and relish...look at the difference in HDR between the two as well...there is a reason that most confirmed Forza 2 to not look any better than GT4 for the PS2...
and what about Forza 2 not having all of the real world ads on the race walls?...and no fans?...Forza 2...empty bleachers...GT5P...individual people, not even just smudged colors to look like fans...
and holy crap did GT5P crush PGR4 in this comparison...face it man...you can be a retarded fanboy all you want...make up some other crap about stuff you don't understand, like physics...claim the cars in GT5P don't handle the way they do in real life or something...people can debate all they want about that stuff...but the PS3 has the best looking racing game on earth right now...case closed...
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- 635 days 17 hours ago
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the last images were the most telling, GT5's cars and backgrounds look astonishing...Forza and PGR aren't as impressive.
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- 635 days 17 hours ago
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your paid GT5 demo has a lot of work to do.
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- 635 days 14 hours ago
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Are the xbots blind or something? GT 5 clearly takes the crown in the grahpic department.
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Varsarus
- 635 days 14 hours ago
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Consider themselves..dumb.
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- 635 days 5 hours ago
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(oh my f*cking GOD...i just walked into a bloddy battle and im crawling out on my knees)
...just...need to uuuuhhh, make it to other...ssIIDE. the gun fire...the bullets...
F*CKIN FLAME WARS, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Beat GT, and what will you have to play next? Beat PGR4, and you'll still have Forza MS2. Get bored of either and then go play GT. Get bored of that, and you can go back to PGR4 and Forza MS2
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GT's nice, and aged like fine wine and forty year old women (ill, f*k). Forza's the new up and comer, who wiggles jiggles and giggles and leaves the crowds in pools of...drool. PGR is the line that blurred between RidgeRacer and Forza, leaning more on Forza's accuracy over Ridge's arcade. Oh, and PGR is very FUN! Something a GAME should be, otherwise you couldn't call it game, rather a driving lesson.
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- 635 days 3 hours ago
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19 - Someone toss me a pair of Sony goggles because I don't see it.
I'll assume the link is correct. I like GT and all, but you all must be looking at a different website than me. I looked at the screens and watched the video twice. Honestly. The only areas that GT looks better than the rest is (sadly) in the garage. The GT gameplay looks like ass. It's slow, boring, not much fun at all. I'll just keep in mind that it's a demo, hopefully the final product will step it up.
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Cherchez La Ghost
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20 - Ok..,
Just read all the post here. Considering everyone in favor for Grand Turismo stating that it is better than Forza 2 & PGR4. Reason being GT is the "BEST LOOKING" out of the three. To you Sony fanboys out there, you must look at this. Forza 2, you can customize your cars. From stock to 20in wheels, hoods, bumpers & sideskirts. Custom paint jobs are sick on this game. IMO, I can say this is the reason why graphics-wise it's a step-down from Grand Turismo. Second is the upgrades and tweaking. I can say this (from playing & owning every GT & Forza game) the customization is very different. Muscle cars for example, despite the fact it can have more horsepower than a import, doesn't run very well fully upgraded. That is a big difference I saw playing Forza. Bottom line, I'm not here to be in spite towards Grand Turismo. Yes, I have the demo on my PS3, but there is a difference. It's the best looking racer (for now). But I'm not ruling out Forza 2 just because it's a step-down with graphics to Grand Turismo. You have to look at all aspects when you judge a game.
Sorry Sony Fanboys, everyone is not on your side.
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burnout paradise wins. lol
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i would rather have a game now that has very good graphics and excellent gameplay than wait and wait and wait (in the meantime get ripped off by paying for not even half a game so they can finance the finished game and coming on this website saying wait till 06/07/08/09 ps3 is gonna own blah blah blah), metaphorically speaking i would rather have keira knightly now than wait for years and years for jessica alba, by the time she comes around, she is going to be older and less interesting
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