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GoldenEye for Xbox 360 Cancelled ; The Real Reason Detailed

Last week, CVG reported that, GoldenEye would be making it to XBLA. However, an actual quote from the Magazine says otherwise about the real reason behind the cancellation of the title.

The magazine writes:
"This is no hoax. This is no fan-made ROM hack, PC Source mod or Photoshop fake. This is no joke, and contrary to the date on the cover, this is no April Fool either. This is the Nintendo 64's GoldenEye running on the Xbox 360, made by Rare, published by 007 license holders Activision and released over Live Arcade by Microsoft - and it's the best game you'll never play.

GoldenEye was set for release in the middle of this year, until it was cancelled late in 2007, apparently at the behest of Nintendo. As Oddjaw tells it, Nintendo America boss Reggie Fils-Aime was supposedly completely behind the idea, knowing well what the project would mean to gamers, especially when the deal was sweetened by Rare's offer to port the game to Wii, while making the rest of their back catalogue available on the Virtual Console.

The agreement between the parties allowed the game to be developed almost to completion before Nintendo's Japanese boss Satoru Iwata decided that under absolutely no circumstances would Nintendo allow the game to see release on another platform. While Ninty apparently have neither rights to the code nor any legal means to block the release, it's rumoured that the threat to Activision's relationship with Nintendo was enough for them to disband the project."
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Published: 624 days 21 hours ago | News | Xbox 360
 
 

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decapitator - 624 days 21 hours ago
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Well you can't really blame Nintendo I guess. I mean, the game first appeared on their console and they were just not ready to let a competitor have one of their most acclaimed games.

*Sigh*, competition sucks sometimes. Hope we get to see the game re-released in the future on some sort of console though.
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gamesR4fun - 624 days 20 hours ago
1.1 - Nimtendo boss dies
when I stick his wii so far up his beep that he chokes...

seriously this woulda been totally worth paying for live for a year cant believe what a dirty double crossing SOB Satoru Iwata is.
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lessthanmarcus - 624 days 15 hours ago
1.2 - Are you serious?
That game was great. Back in the 90s. Have you ever tried playing it now? I can't believe I use to like that.
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SlippyMadFrog - 624 days 14 hours ago
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Just a note on the sideline, you don't need to pay Live subscription to buy Xbox Live Arcade games.
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ZeroXMD - 624 days 7 hours ago
1.4 - my god ppl
Whoopedy freeking doo ppl. Yea, i'm kinda disappointed that it got canceled (honestly thought the remake was bs), but cry a freaking river and drown in it why don't ya? The game still EXISTS, you can play it no prob with an emulator or going to a used game store or ebay. Honestly, think about it if you guys were in Iwata's shoes before calling for his lynching over a REMAKE of a game.

You have all of a consoles fans saying that your console is killing their type of game (bs), dissing your fans and your console and calling you stupid, a company that bought a game studio that used to make games to you, the certain console having 300 million FPS games and then wanting to take one of your most successful games for your console (generation doesn't matter, it's still their console), which happens to be a FPS and remake it to put it onto their console (VC version regardless) which would sell probably better than it did the first time, but you wouldn't be seeing a dime of it.

Come on. it's business sense. It's taking one of their most successful games of a generation. That is like them making a game and giving it to them to make money off of. Plus, the fact that Nintendo stopped it MEANS that THEY DO have rights to the game, cause say all you want, it was still a N64 game. Franchise or not, that's like them giving Ocarina of Time or Super Mario 64 to them.

Seriously ppl, quit calling for lynchings over a game you can play ANYTIME if you would actually go get it. Funny, with the amount of hype behind this and CoD4, it's pretty subtly evident how much Halo really ISN'T the king of shooters since their isn't a single post on this with someone saying "oh well, at least Halo is still here"
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Exhaust - 624 days 6 hours ago
1.5 - Nintendo is a bunch of greedy F's
First they stab Sony in the back over with the SNES CD peripheral then they refused to bring another factory online to meet Wii demand now they put their foot down on this remake of Goldeneye? The Wii doesn't even compete with the 360. The Wii is two gamecubes taped together going after grandmas and grandpas. Not a HD system for hardcore gamers like the PS3 or 360.

I say MS get out of the deal with Activison somehow and publish it themselves. F Nintendo.

You Sony fanboys are just hating because its a game for the 360. If this game was remade for the PS3 you'd be drooling over it.
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Odion - 624 days 21 hours ago
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its from 2 generations ago it was one game, its not franchise, they don't own the developer anymore or the license its a prick move.
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decapitator - 624 days 21 hours ago
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Thanks..I corrected myself...:)

Also I agree with you but then again, is Nintendo. If they can't have it, no one will.
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Mr_Kuwabara - 624 days 21 hours ago
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"For England James!"
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niall77 - 624 days 21 hours ago
5 - it makes sence.
a nintendo game on a non nintendo system just doesnt make sence.

goldenEye is this years "Halo DS" and both wont get released anytime soon which is a damn shame IMO
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bozobucketeer - 624 days 21 hours ago
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Sense* sorry
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green - 624 days 21 hours ago
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I want a next gen seguel to
Jet Force Gemini
Banjo
Perfect dark
KI3 etc.

Rare wake up.
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Adamalicious - 624 days 21 hours ago
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They made Perfect Dark already (crap) and Banjo is on the way.
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green - 624 days 21 hours ago
6.2 - Adamalicious
Perfect Dark was good for a lunch title.Kameo was better but that was christmas 05 and we are approaching 3rd month of 08.

I know Banjo is on its way but i pray it dose not slip to 09,and also hope that Ki3 is also in development.

I really loved Rare back in the days and Jet Force Gemini was one of the best games on the N64 and i am really hoping that rare can remake all those classics i loved so much again.

Golden Eye will never happen,if Perfect Dark 2 is made it will sell in the bucket loads so will alot of their old IP's.

I just hope that they will prove us wrong in 08 and really shine
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RH06 - 624 days ago
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I just wanna see a new Conker for Live...
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zane547 - 624 days 21 hours ago
7 - Amusing
If they had said right at the start "No." That's business. To wait until right when the game was close to completion to say no? That's cheap competition.

If they had a legal stance after waiting that long, thats fair enough. To simply threaten to damage a relationship with another company to halt a release? thats unethical.

For all the good "niche market and non-competitive" image Nintendo puts out, that proves they're just as cutthroat with titles as Sony or Microsoft would be.
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Peekay - 624 days 21 hours ago
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yeah - but this is what i don't understand - for a project like this you'd think they would be a contract. I hope the party initiating the deal would have had the sense to create one. If they had done this, then they could have sued the pants of Nintendo. Why start development on a game when you don't have the rights yet?!
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zane547 - 624 days 21 hours ago
7.2 - Well
There probably was some form of contract between Rare, MS and Activision. However we don't know the degree of that silly threat by Iwata.

My guess is it involved the threat of prohibiting Activision from releasing future titles on Nintendo formats. Remember Nintendo could well survive off first-party games. So the company that would get hurt would be Activision.

Regardless, the whole fiasco was poorly handled by Iwata in every way, shape and form. I can see many a Nintendo fan being angered by this one.
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Lumbo - 624 days 21 hours ago
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Why would there be a contract, as stated Nintendo owns NO rights on the title, hence no contract was needed, cause they simply are not part of anyone who has to say ok to the project.

The move to threaten Activision with consequences on the Wii/DS market if they release the old N64 game on a non Nintendo system is a really really cheap and dirty one.
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Peekay - 624 days 20 hours ago
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"the deal was sweetened by Rare's offer to port the game to Wii"

- there must have been some sort of contract
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BloodySinner - 624 days 21 hours ago
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That is so retarded.
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InYourMom - 624 days 21 hours ago
8.1 - Agreed.
The ugly side of the gaming business that is for sure. It is definately a wake up call that if you think Sony, Nintendo or MS have your best interest's as a gamer at heart you are fooling yourself.

This is all about dollars and backroom deals. Nintendo has lost a fan with me today.
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The_Engineer - 624 days 18 hours ago
8.2 - lmao
NOT

if it was the PS3 that got shafted and not the 360 you two would be jumping for joy.

oh look mommy they got two faces...lol
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ikiru3385 - 624 days 21 hours ago
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scumbag move, nintendo.
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Ri0tSquad - 624 days 21 hours ago
10 - I know how this must feel for some people.
And if it were a remake I was expecting to play upgraded, in HD, online enabled, I would only hate Nintendo for stopping such an experience not possible on their platform this generation. Nintendo, burn in hell.
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green - 624 days 21 hours ago
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But from what i read, nintendo was to have a version as well.So why did nintendo back track all of a sudden?
What Nintendo did is so unfair
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I Call 9MM - 624 days 19 hours ago
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If Nintendo isn't the only one to get it, then no one will. Damn you Iwata for not being a sensible man.
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IntelligentAj - 624 days 21 hours ago
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They have no rights to block anything. They don;t own anything from the game. My question for Activision is what would you lose by no supporting the Wii? Most of the 3rd party games on the system don't sell anyway(at least the good ones don't sell while the crap does, Mario and Sonic here's lookin at you) so why does it matter. This really does suck balls.
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zane547 - 624 days 20 hours ago
12.1 - I think
Some of it boils down to Activision and EA being in direct competition for monopoly of the industry development-wise now. They dont want to risk not supporting Wii for fear of EA getting a one-up on them in profit opportunity.
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gogators - 624 days 20 hours ago
12.2 - Activision and EA are both very big companies now,
with lots of titles being developed and released every year, but neither is close to being an monopoly. If you look back at Bell/AT&T pre-80's, thats a monopoly. Activision and EA aren't even close.
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I Call 9MM - 624 days 19 hours ago
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Activision needs to grow some bigger balls, that is what they need to do. Nintendo will what, threaten to cut them off from developing for the Wii and the DS. Sure they will. I don't think Nintendo would want to loose Activision's support, they put out great games. I can see the add now, it says "Guitar Hero IV, coming out on every single system out there except the Wii and DS". Or maybe even "Call of Duty 5. Yeah, Treyarch made it but it's not that bad and you won't find it on the Wii". Iwata is just playing his cards but he's bluffing Activision and they are falling for it. Make him fold Activision, make the b@stard fold.
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BrotherNick - 624 days 7 hours ago
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Guitar Hero 3 is really popular with the casual crowd, that's why. Even as a nintendo fan I'd say it kinda sucks, cause they finished it already.
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Adropacrich2 - 624 days 21 hours ago
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Still play the N64 version of this and Perfect Dark quite regularly.It hasn't aged in gameplay terms regardless of what people may say and news like this is a real shame.

Worth going back to Goldeneye and turning off both sight and auto aiming - makes for a more challenging time but is also more enjoyable and less arcadey.Most people left both of these on i guess and it wouldn't suprise me if most also played it only the once as well.

Goldeneye is still better than just about all other FPS and it's a real shame others wont get to find that out.That said Goldeneye's magic can't be replicated perhaps in a remake and this could actually be a good thing
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v1c1ous - 624 days 21 hours ago
14 - Reggies will complain about some of the choices Nintendo of Japan has done
and the next day Reggie will announce his "retirement" from his position. and then dissapear for a cpl of days with no words.

HARRISOOOON!
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zane547 - 624 days 20 hours ago
14.1 - It would
be a funny co-incidence but Reggie is just as pro-nintendo as even Miyamoto ever since he joined after leaving VH1. He's one of their more loyal employees, and judging from the article probably one of the more sensible.
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Kigmal - 624 days 20 hours ago
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random but funny as phuck though
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Kigmal - 624 days 20 hours ago
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Perfect Dark 2, Killer Instinct 3, Jet Force Gemini 2. Pick one Rare. I say KI3, Xbox 360 needs a non-japanese fighting game.
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MasterChief2829 - 624 days 20 hours ago
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Ninjas have been deployed to Iwata's location. o_o
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The BS Police - 624 days 20 hours ago
17.1 - Even better.
Lets fire the Goldeneye Satellite onto Nintendo Japan.
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DJ - 624 days 20 hours ago
18 - Screw Nintendo
360 owners DESERVE to play this game! Damn that sucks.
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M_Prime - 624 days 5 hours ago
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PLEASE tell me why 360 owners DESERVE to play this?

the way i look at it.. nobody DESERVES anything.. when people think they deserve something its just GROWING UP GOTTI all over again..

You make gamers look bad DJ
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The BS Police - 624 days 4 hours ago
18.2 - M_Prime you make gamers look like assholes.
tell me why 360 gamers don't deserve to play it? While your at it are you gonna dictate what we should and shouldn't play?
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Tsalagi - 624 days 20 hours ago
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Now those of you who aren't old enough to remember Nintendo in the 80's see what happens when they are in the lead. They get greedy and do dirty things like this to get their way.
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I Call 9MM - 624 days 19 hours ago
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That is Nintendo's way. I remember the 80s and how they handle 3rd parties and the like. A very sneaky company. Then they shot themselves in the foot with the Gamecube.
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The BS Police - 624 days 20 hours ago
20 - Satoru Iwata is the biggest douche in the universe.
I hope you guys like this video I made out of hatred.


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I Call 9MM - 624 days 19 hours ago
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Now that was funny.
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InYourMom - 624 days 18 hours ago
20.2 - LOL
That was brilliant! +Bub for you my friend for the SouthPark reference alone.
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