Molyneux would prefer to have HDD

Jdoki - 677 days 16 hours ago

Agreed.. MS can spin the whole 'appealing to the casual gamer / enticing price point to get in to gaming' line, but it seems clear to me that they left it out for cost reasons and to get the console on the market as quickly as possible.

Remember when the 360 launched? It was cited at the time that one of the limiting factors for launch units was supply of HDD's.

MS got it wrong, and it will limit games in the future, or alienate part of their install base if they allow (non-MMO) games ot be launched that require the HDD. We've already seen the first step towards this with the online issue in Burnout Paradise on 360.

I can't believe they are still bothering with the non-HDD SKU's, so I can only guess that some suckers are buying them, or MS doesn't want to lose face.

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LastDance - 677 days 15 hours ago

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Fishy Fingers - 677 days 16 hours ago

True, but £50 extra for a 20gb HDD? MS need to just do way with the Elite and Premium and just make one SKU with 120gb HDD for Premium prices.

How much do you thing MS pays for a 120gb HDD? When they buy by the million!

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Jdoki - 677 days 16 hours ago

Well you do get a few other extras for your 50quid (like wireless controller)!

But you are right... MS should bite the bullet and scrap the non-HDD SKU. While Sony has two SKU's I think MS will stick with that as well, so I'm not sure we'll get to 1 SKU any time soon.

Perhaps they'll get rid of the Arcade with their next price cut. Move the Premium to 199.99, get rid of the Arcade and leave the Elite at it's current price but chuck in another game.

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Yi-Long - 677 days 15 hours ago

... I just had my old classic Xbox modded (it was broken and could only be fixed with modding it) with a 250 GB HD, which was only 60 euro RETAIL (so much cheaper for a company like Microsoft to buy in bulk), yet they charge so much money for a lousy small HD. It's just disgusting and one of those things that many gamers, like myself, will keep in the back of their heads when a next generation of Microsoft comes out.

I dont mind Microsoft making a little profit, and I'm certainly not a Microsoft-hater (The original Xbox is still my favourite console EVER, and I've been playing games since MSX/Commodore etc)... but with the 360, with the faulty hardware, the DLC that you lose as soon as your system has to be replaced, the way-too-expensive add-ons, the no-HD SKU, and the ongoing overcharging of european gamers (450 euro for a barebones Elite(!) ), it's all a bit too much of a bad thing, to me.

Dont get me wrong. A working 360 is awesome, the joypads are great (apart from the d-pad), and the software is outstanding and varied...
But Microsoft has also done many things wrong.
And unlike Sony, which also did many things wrong but has quickly moved to right most of their wrongs, Microsoft seems a bit slow to fix stuff.

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ip-student - 677 days 13 hours ago

Yeah - I think the lack of a standard HDD was a big mistake as well - it would be awfully nice for developers to be able to count on the HDD - there is a big performance hit by not being able to count on it. Simple to fix though - just allow games that require it and drop the price of the 20 gig HDD to $60 USD. Doesn't seem like MS is willing to do that though.

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LastDance - 677 days 15 hours ago

"They have limited there hardwae just like Sony"

how did sony limit their har.. you know what. your probably 12 im not going to bother.

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Kareem - 677 days 13 hours ago

But they seriously have to discount the arcade or offer more HDD ranging in price and storage.

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Anego Montoya FTMFW - 677 days 13 hours ago

don`t even waste your time asking that question.

your not gonna get a actual answer back.

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Anego Montoya FTMFW - 677 days 12 hours ago

i say this.

1.It has almost NO problems staying alive(1%).
2.It has a NEXT GEN storage medium.

those are the problems w/ the 360. IMO.

if had those things, i`d lay off it.

but sadly it doesn`t.

and that`s pretty fair of me, i think.

i`ve already owned one(x2) 360

if i didn`t break on me(x2) would i still be a "fanboy" in peoples eyes.

please let me know

if it`s MY fault i don`t own a 360 anymore?

seriously ask yourselves that.

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Jdoki - 677 days 12 hours ago

You have some valid points Bladestar.

But what I dont't find impressive is how a game like Burnout Paradise is gimped on one platform because it doesn't have a Hard Drive.

What I also find unimpressive is that the 360 has been out longer and hasn't shown the same type of innovation as PS3 games (such as Eye of Judgement)

I own both platforms, and have no bias either way. Both companies have screwed up in some areas and I'll criticise/praise them both equally when needed.

Yep, you are dead right that the 360 offers a comparable experience for less money. but cost is only a factor to people looking to purchase. So if an Xbot buys a 360 the cost of a PS3 is irrevlevant. Price is only a factor if you can't afford something - and looking at sales of PS3's they don't seem too bad for an expensive machine.

What does that really mean? Absolutely nothing. People can (and will) argue their preferences until the next consoles come out, and then start all over again. But what I do expect is that the PS3 will offer more innovative gaming experiences which will impress me. And makes me wonder what sort of longevity the 360 may have - not in terms of horsepower, but actually providing varied and rich experiences beyond Gears 2, 3, 4 etc and Halo 3, 4, 5 etc.

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misterzadir - 677 days 12 hours ago

You make very valid points there, no doubt. By me saying that the ps3 is more impressive to me, I mean just that: To me. For $400 I get a fantastic gaming console with loads of games and exclusives that I really enjoy, plus a top notch blu-ray player. So to me, that -by far- beats the value of the 360 out of the water. Not to mention to built in wifi, which given my current setup is a necessity really, and free online play (not bashing LIVE here, though -- it's fantastic). So to me the PS3 is actually a much better value than a $279 360 that doesn't even come with a HDD or hi-def drive. Let alone a wireless controller or wifi, etc.

In the end, if you've got both next gen consoles (ps3 & 360) you're in excellent shape.

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