Microsoft's Shane Kim Says The Console War Isn't Over

HuntTheWumpus - 693 days 4 hours ago

No where was Shane quoted as saying "the console war isn't over". He said that the "I think its way to early to declare a winner" which is completely correct. He even goes as far to say that Sony shouldn't be underestimated and that they are a formidable competitor and they are watching them closely.

Never has MS or anyone claimed the 360 has won the console war. Sony does have a lot of catching up to do and I think the expectations set by the fanboys is unrealistic when stating it will catch up this year. But just like Shane said, it would be stupid to ignore the powerhouse that is Sony, they have been the market leader for a long time. Just the fact that the 360 is on a level to threaten the PS3 is a big accomplishment.

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power of Green - 693 days 4 hours ago

Great post. They sure are on a mission today all it takes is a few non praising posts about their fav platform.

The question is what will pay off more: The shock and awe route MSFT is useing or the gradual hype over long periods of time route Sony uses. I don't know what MSFT did to keep Project Offset, Alan Wake devs etc silent Some of those titles are shaping up to be epic and most devs wan't to boast.

It would be intresting to see what the several un-announced titles are and what they have in mind when talking about opening up XBL that they will be showing at GDC(the supposed MGS4 anwser would be great to see too).

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decapitator - 693 days 3 hours ago

Of course is not but someone is gotta loose eventually. Thats just life, some gotta be at the bottom and some ones gotta be at the top. I can't wait for GDC to see what all three companies have under their sleeve.

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mikeslemonade - 693 days 3 hours ago

Two things you people get wrong every time:

1. It don't matter about your attach rate because all that money is offset by the faulty hardware costing billions. MS still has a long way with only 4 profitable quarters out of 28 quarters since the inception of the xbox brand.

2. I believe 360 will eventually get MGS4, but not in GDC. At the earliest is TGS since they're a Japanese company and it's Konami who calls the shots.

Power of Green: Your theorys are wrong and didn't you learn anything from you PRO HD-dvd comments? Look at where HD-DVD is now.

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power of Green - 693 days 3 hours ago

Yah Warner sure did "suprize" many of us. lol

Not going to fight with you theories are one thing but what I'v said comes from MSFT, they said these things not me.

MSFT: said they had several unannounced titles.

Devs: have said they're making these games for the 360.

MSFT: has said they're going to show something new they're working on for XBL this GDC.

Inside sources have said they are working on something that will competing MGS4.

Theories are what the industry and Sony fans are involved in, I'm simply stating what I read from the sources.

You seem angry take a break man.

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bishop-br - 693 days 3 hours ago

It's sure not over! And PS3 still thirdplace in ltd sales, if sony fanboys are claiming it, it's dumb. I'm pretty sure Sony will pass over MS, but over? Sony was nocked out early last year, look at it now. What is holding MS from doing the same?

360 hardware shall be around 'till 2011, PS3 shall be the major system from Sony 'till 2013~2014. It's way far from over.

EDIT: LOL, this was @2, my bad with the reply buttom...

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mikeslemonade - 693 days 3 hours ago

That's a given that all companies have unannouced games. And you assume Sony has nothing left in up there sleeves? Just yesterday there was a new Twisted Metal. I wouldn't say im angry it's actually funny how wrong some of your comments are and you repeat yourself everyday. And your bullet points about those things are mere rumors. You just can't say those are going to be true. GDC won't be huge for any of the three companys. Has GDC ever been huge? Answer that question yourself.

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DJ - 693 days 3 hours ago

Wrong Section - Wrong Mentality.

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fenderputty - 693 days 3 hours ago

no matter what, Sony has lost some of the market to MS this gen. It's one of the reasons I don't see a clear winner. I don't think they will make the same mistake again though. The PS4 should launch a lot closer to the 720 and hopefully at a closer price point.

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robbo918 - 692 days 22 hours ago

Its a tad early to be declaring Sony lost a large chunk of market share when X360 lifetime sales are not at Xbox orginal yet, once they pass that then they took some market share from someone. Wii is taking some share from both X360 and PS3 at this point would be a more accurate statement.

In the end I do think Sony lost a little market to X360 but I also feel that X360's failure rate gained Sony some back. There are a LOT of PS2 owners out there that will determine who wins this war IMO. If they stay Sony loyal it will be round 3 to Sony, if they mass defect to X360 (I find highly unlikey but <shrug> that's my opinion only) then M$ will win its first console round. At this point you can't say PS3 lost market share to X360 though (IMO).

IF X720 release a year before PS4 I still don't think you will see a mass defection like you speak of (you said "heck of a lot"), BUT a lot will depend on the date M$ releases X720. If they release it next year not many PS3 fans would defect I don't think, to me it would show M$ will not support their system for long again. If they release it in 4 years or so, some early adopters in the PS3 camp will get the X720, but I still don't feel mass exodus would occur and there is no basis in fact for it currently. In marketing early adopters are great but brand loyalty is a powerful thing (even if its less powerful in today's times), and whether you hate or love Sony, it has strong brand loyalty (as does Microsoft with its fans).

Not dogging you Meus, just debating the point and I love your avatar.

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AceLuby - 692 days 12 hours ago

Wii is creating a completely new market that has never bought consoles before. I actually think they are 'losing' market share they had w/ the Gamecube, but are more than making up for it in this super huge casual market goldmine that they found.

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IntelligentAj - 692 days 10 hours ago

Been gone awhile and missed some good news. 100% Meus. Their market share has definitely shrunk from when the PS2 was king and it has forced them to step up their game, which brought us all those good games in the latter half of the year. And while i'm not a fan of the 360 hardware issues, their are simply too many great games to play on that system. That makes it hard to disagree that MS has positioned themselves well for the next iteration of consoles.

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Jazz4108 - 693 days 2 hours ago

Well we all know that MS will have more then 3 games but speaking of three games thats close to what Sony offered in 2007, maybe less.

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That_Whore - 693 days 2 hours ago

It looks like they plan on releasing a new xbox before 2010.

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ravinash - 692 days 17 hours ago

No! Sorry!....Its all over....everyone go home!
There are no more games! everyone put away your consoles.

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ravinash - 692 days 17 hours ago

Think about all those Wii owners....when their more used to the idea of gaming. their going to think again about getting the more powerful machines.
And with games like little big planet, this should attract some of that crowd.

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sak500 - 692 days 18 hours ago

Dont get us started on 120fps, 4D....

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Wraith001 - 692 days 16 hours ago

Erm, did you read the article at all?

"Kim said not to expect a lifespan for the Xbox 360 on par with its predecessor, pointing to the strategic benefit of launching a year before a pair of current-gen competitors."

If the 360 will not have a lifespan the same as the original Xbox that would mean the next Xbox would be due late 2009 early 2010, as the 360 has entered her 3rd year, please correct me if im wrong.

Or do you think MS will abandon the whole brand at that point?

Maybe you are the one wearing blinkers and looking the idiot, please re-read the article!

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Adamalicious - 692 days 10 hours ago

Why would he say something like that about the lifespan? I know when I invest in a console I want to be able to play new games on it for a good number of years before it's replaced. The original Xbox already had a rather short lifespan, and when it was over it was OVER. They just pulled the plug on it after what, a little more than four years? If the lifespan of the 360 is even shorter I think a lot of gamers will be ticked off about it.

The 360 was lucky in that it released in a bit of a vacuum - all three consoles were tapering off, not a lot of competition. If they try to release more hardware in 2009 when the PS3 will probably be really hitting its stride I won't be so eager to get a new system so I can play some new games. I just hope they don't rush another system to market just to get out ahead again.

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Chubear - 693 days 3 hours ago

If gamers can't read inbetween the lines on that one and still go out and support the 360 then they trully deserve begining dumped on just like MS did with them on the xbox.

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