Criterion make Burnout Paradise Xbox 360 HDD/Online Statement

Darkiewonder - 696 days 15 hours ago

Glad to see they saw didn't try to keep ushing the core model where if it doesn't work, we don't do it [to the other 360 model]

Maybe Microsoft will throw in a hard drive. but lawlz @ if Japan [or anywhere] buys the core model and find out they can't play Burnout.

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green - 696 days 14 hours ago

Microsoft please get rid of the core or make it in very limited numbers.

As can be seen the harddrive is becoming more important in game development.

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travelguy2k - 696 days 14 hours ago

there are tonns of used 20gb HDD for dales at game stops and such, afterall, what r u going to do with your old 20gig after you upgrade. Game retailers should offer you 10 bucks trade in value and then re-sell them for $20, or something to that effect.

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ThaGeNeCySt - 696 days 14 hours ago

"We opened a dialogue with Microsoft to attempt to discover a possible solution and all possible technical options were investigated to retain the seamless freedom of Burnout without requiring the HDD. Unfortunately a solution was not available and we decided together that it would be in the best interests of the Burnout community if we require the HDD for full online play."

Nice going... I wonder now if this can be applied to any developer now... where they'll make games that require the HDD for data caching or whatever and just leave the poor Core owners SOL. But in any event, kudos to them.

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mighty_douche - 696 days 14 hours ago

Who said a next gen console needs a HDD?! oh thats right... Criterion do.

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killer_trap - 696 days 14 hours ago

it was only a matter of time. an HDD is needed and a blu-ray disk will look like a necessity and a year's time.

good thing some companies think of the long run.

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AliC - 696 days 14 hours ago

I am surprised that all 360s didn't come with a HDD from the start. Microsoft should have followed on from what they had with the original xbox.

Mass storage is very important, especially in this day an age.

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DJ - 696 days 13 hours ago

using PS3 as the lead development platform.

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BrianC6234 - 696 days 13 hours ago

Does this really even matter? I can't believe any serious online gamer has a 360 with no hard drive.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 696 days 13 hours ago

but ps3 gamers already knew that having a hard drive as standard is better than not.just like xbox1 gamers had it like me.more space to put files is better.that's just a fact.

custom music,no memory cards,downloads,etc, are nothing but positives.why microsoft went without one this time boggles the mind.they had the time and advantage even if sony released ps3.because sony announced well ahead that ps3 was going to be expensive.and the $299 360 was passed up anyway for the premium.

360 development has been hindered because of 2 different skus.adding to the smaller disc space.this was said in a video on youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

megaton...................... ..

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Fiyah3k - 696 days 13 hours ago

look, as time goes on & the yrs past developers will want more capacity for their ideas. sorry 2 inform those who are unaware but dvd9 isn't gonna cut it too much longer as games are becoming heavier in size. blu-ray is the next format of evolution! As far as to why microsoft didn't integrate a HDD into 360 like the first is from a profit standpoint..........

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Kareem - 696 days 12 hours ago

Why should they be disappointed as MS were the ones who caused all these troubles?

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Doctor Strange - 696 days 12 hours ago

At least they took the time to address the issue which is very good on Criterion part.

I some people are saying just discontinue the core and make HDD requirement a necessity all thats going to do is split the 360 user base or chose them to get another console where they don't have to worry about these problems.

This is trend I hope doesn't continue but MS at fault for this one.

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name - 696 days 11 hours ago

Well the game was built first on the PS3, so I guess that meant that they couldn't really cut corners since all PS3's have a harddrive. If the 360 was the lead platform then the HD's wouldn't be manditory.

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Lord_Ash - 696 days 9 hours ago

They tried their best and couldn't avoid the satiation, it's not Criterion fault anyway but it's nice to know they went "investigating" for a solution

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ReBurn - 696 days 5 hours ago

I'm not against requiring the HDD to play games. If someone wants to play online they really need the HDD anyway.

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pwnsause - 696 days 4 hours ago

whats going to keep bugging me from here on till april is GTAIV. We know you don't need a HDD to play the Single Player, but would the multiplayer be affected because of the lack of a HDD on the Core systems? im mean GTAIV is a Sandbox game, just like Burnout Paradise, so the same rules could apply here as well.

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BeetleJuice - 696 days 3 hours ago

i wonder how many load times we will c when that title releases ^^^^
but who knows
MS has really disappointed me... i was a die hard with the Xbox
and once the 360 came out it was like F-u either upgrade or dont play games... i wonder how many other games will release like this?
pretty soon they will be saying buy a hard-drive or dont play games

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Guwapo77 - 696 days 3 hours ago

My hypothesis...

I believe the reason for XBox 360's core version was to compete with Nintendo's Wii not the PS3. Since we all know the Wii is without a HDD it would be priced around the Wii to steal potential customers.

In the end it didn't steal Nintendo's customers, it only hurt the money tight 360 gamers.

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venum - 695 days 20 hours ago

Some of my friend have find one use of the core or arcade system.
Basically, when they had a RROD or another failure, the bought an arcade version because they could not wait for the return of the SAV. In the same time, they upgraded their xbox 360 to an hdmi version and 65 nm chips version. They gave their console after the return of the SAV to their little brother.

They can afford to spend money, so... Why not

For this original explanation of the core and arcade version give bubbles guys

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DarkSniper - 696 days 15 hours ago

XBOX 360 has always given gamers "the choice" on enhancing their gameplay experiences. You've had "the choice" if you wanted a high definition movie upgrade to your platform. You've had "the choice" if you want to play your games online with other users or not. You have "the choice" to download demos upon launch, or WAIT B3YOND weeks to download the very same demo that can be downloaded sooner on it's competitor platform.

At no surprise, Dark Sniper reveals that XBOX owners, even with the purchase of XBOX Live, have "the choice" on wheather or not he/she wants to play Burnout Paradise by upgrading or not upgrading to an overpriced hard drive.

For those who enjoy the online experience and is forced to purchase a hard drive, please note that for the price of a 20GB XBOX hard drive, you can get at least 150 gigs of space to place in your PLAYSTATION® 3 hard drive. Last but not least, all PLAYSTATION® 3 owners regardless of the SKU, are able to enjoy a rich, detailed and superior online service of Burnout Paradise on PLAYSTATION® 3.

$niper

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Iron Man 2 - 696 days 14 hours ago

There's no excuses,Microshaft f'ed up big time,it's no surprise either;)

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Legion - 695 days 18 hours ago

But yet XBox 360 version of Burnout Paradise will STILL outsell the PS3 skew of the game!!!

I see no issue with making a game that requiresan HDD. The core users new the option was going to be inevitable from the get go on the HDD requierment. So they have the option of purchasing an HDD if they wish to play BP.

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akaFullMetal - 695 days 16 hours ago

sucks for arcade sku 360 buyers, i wonder how many parents are going to get angray when there kid cant play it online?

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