Crysis 2 PS3 'performs better than 360 version'

CVG: Crytek has admitted that its getting "slightly more performance" out of the PS3 version of Crysis 2 than the Xbox 360 edition.

[Shadow Flare]

Then if they are going to make the ps3 version hit its "graphical ceiling" then there's no way the two versions should be "identical"

[commodore64]

The actual quote was somewhat less impressive:
"... We took our time and worked out the right way to approach it (ps3)."
"At the moment, we're getting slightly more performance from PS3 compared to 360"

It sounds like Crytek simply has invested the time to maximise the potential of the ps3.

I just hope they invest the same amount of resources in maximising the 360.

It seems silly to invest 2-3x the resources in squeezing out marginally extra performance from the ps3, when the same is never afforded to the 360.

[sikbeta]

PR talk FTL! so, There will be 2 Different Versions instead of an "standard" vesion

Edit:

I was expecting an "Standard" Version for Both Platforms, even if Crytek said they want to Push the Hardware on every platform, but seems like it'll be like FF13 with 2 Different Versions...

Edit#2:

Maybe Crytek is Pushing the Hardware but the Versions are still Different, something like a Superior PC Version and the PS3 with the Better Version on Consoles and that can end up like the already metioned game I posted

[bnaked]

"I'm very confident that products using CryEngine 3 are going to come out as the best looking, or at least in the top three, on every platform."

This statement is ok.

And that the PS3-version is superior is no surprise..

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

I'm very surprised...

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Of course they won't be identical when both consoles do things better than the other. You people can exhale now...

[Ocelot525]

cry-engine 3

deutsche qualität

[thereapersson]

For one, how do you know they invested 2-3 times the resources on the PS3 version? Do you have financial records and concrete evidence from the development team, or are you going to dig up an article from 2007 about how the PS3 was still a difficult platform to make games for to suit your blind assumption? Crytek isn't some n00b developer; they've pretty much created the best-looking PC game engine of all time, and it's just that much more impressive how they can scale it down to work on consoles with such positive results.

What's even more impressive is how a primarily PC-driven development studio has had such good luck on the PS3 on their first go-around. What's Valve's excuse, you wonder...

You're spinning so hard, I'm surprised the Earth hasn't been knocked off its axis.

[Shaman]

Thats very good if they tell it straight forward like that.If it runs like that,then ps3 is slightly stronger because engine pushes system to limits.Only think that brings doubt about this is that this is for ps3 magazine and that they showed 360 version to press.Gamespot also quoted Cevat saying ps3 will look nearly identical to 360 version,however it is we will have to wait,but as i said.Which ever platform looks better then its only one reason,that console is stronger,if thats ps3 so be it ;)

[BrutallyBlunt]

Well I would hope so that a console that came out a year after the Xbox 360 and costs more to make would perform better.

[Chaostar]

It's about time that a developer utilized the best aspects of each console. Everyone who isn't in denial knows the PS3 is superior graphically, not that Xbox games look terrible but PS3 just has the edge. I'm glad that they aren't holding out on that edge so the people who care about graphics can pick up the PS3 version (if they don't have an insane gaming rig) and everyone else still gets to play if they only have an Xbox. It's win-win-win. Edit: Of course other factors besides graphics will come into play but thats all we're discussing here right?

It seems like they REALLY want that 'graphics king' title but they are gonna have to make something extra special to knock UC2/GOW3 off the top spot for PS3.

edit:@commodore64 using 'placeholders' to keep your comment up top before you even write it is not a popular practice.

Edit: I realize that this comment may make me appear fanboyish in the eyes of some, and I really was hesitant to post it, but is it not true that the games with the best graphics are PS3 exclusive? Top 3 in most peoples opinions would be Uncharted 2, GOW3 and Killzone 2 (in no particular order) and this is just my opinion also so please don't dump me with those types.

[Sitris]

PR bullshots, and i reckon Crysis 1 will be better, as the consoles will limit it. Heres hoping i will pick up the super superior version on my PC :)

[LoVeRSaMa]

I have yet to see a multiplat beat MGS4 in gfx yet, so I don't believe the quote about 'pushing PS3's Limits to the ceiling'.

Obviously if it was to push the limits as far as they said then looking at the game titles out it would probably look better on PS3.

They sound like they struggled with the PS3's development which is another reason for me doubting there claims.

We will have to see I guess, I hope it pushes both consoles! =]

[Dance]

At the moment, we're getting slightly more performance from PS3 compared to 360. I'm very confident that products using CryEngine 3 are going to come out as the best looking, or at least in the top three, on every platform

[fox02]

we'll see when the game is out.

[champ21]

Whats the point of debating on "SLIGHTLY better performance" when it will be barely noticible. You are better of buying it on your console of choice.

However if you would like to see a clear difference then PC is obviously the way to go, be it a 3yr old rig or a mid range PC of today.

[thereapersson]

Because it's the only thing that people on this site have to worry about, even though when they are playing the game at home, only the worst of the worst are actually sitting there saying "Man, I'm glad this version outperforms the xxx console's version!".

Stupid moronic behavior...

[Ju]

Slightly ? We shall see what that means. 576p vs 720p ? LOL.

Still a PR statement. For once to make the PS3 gamers happy, and to make sure not to offend MS too much...

[120FPS]

Before fanboys start getting giddy, remember the Ghostbuster fiasco.....

I like how the statement has changed from "best graphix on consoles to top 3"

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

What I never understood was how the PS3 was the lead platform for Ghost Busters, but the 360 version trumped it in almost every single way.

On topic: I really think the most loosely used term in gaming nowadays is "identical". Its just no way its happening nor has it happened. And yes, I've seen all the comparisons. But I suppose I am nitpicking a little bit...

[raztad]

LOL@"marginally extra power"

You guys should be more than happy than the xbox is capable of producing good looking games like AW and Crysis 2 w/o worrying so much about it being "as powerful as" the PS3.

I'm quite interested about more tech details, for example native resolutions on both platforms. I can tell from the video the xbox version has few to none AA applied. BTW, where is the PS3 version?

[Icyhot]

Even Square Enix said both versions looked identical giving 'SLIGHT' edge to the PS3 in the interviews and look how that turned out o_0.

Lol hope we aren't looking at 576P vs 720P all over again.

Lol hey Shaman where is your 'Crytek performs better on 360' crap talk now?

@Shaman: "Gamespot also quoted Cevat saying ps3 will look nearly identical to 360 version".. They even quoted FF13 version looked identical -_-

[WhittO]

They both look awful.

Such BS about "Maxing out" the consoles to their full potential etc..etc..

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

I'm not worried about what the 360 is capable at all. I haven't seen anything out there blowing its games out of the water, only slightly better graphics, meaning a little more attention to detail.

[kancerkid]

@raztad

Technically, Xbox has the advantage when it comes to implementing AA. So if the Xbox does not have it, or has very little, don't expect the PS3 version to have any. I hope they both have it though, even though it won't be more than 2x if you ask me.

[thereapersson]

There are actually effective ways of implementing effective AA solutions on the PS3 that don't involve a taxing impact on the overall performance of a game. God of War III is a perfect example.

The weird thing about the PS3 is that you can't look directly at its raw specifications and automatically know what you're going to get from it.

[frankymv]

Nobody gives a crap about the PC anymore.....

Stop ignoring the warning signs, especially when the biggest PC graphical dev (Crytek) is now squarely focused on consoles.

[Strange_Evil]

@Kancerkid- What if they implement MLAA like that of GOW3? That technique gives a much more smoother AA than MSAA (gives about 8x equivalent) which is much more superior to the usual 2x which the 360 gives. Crytek always comes out with "we are maximizing the PS3" talk, and I always feel that devs should take up MLAA for better results. Maybe that is the way Crytek is going.

It's really funny to read the comments here now. Just a few weeks back we had talks about Crysis 2 on 360 looking better than anything and 360 fanboys jumping on the hype bandwagon and saying Crysis 2 will beat KZ2. And now they come out and say PS3 is performing better. OUCH. That's gotta hurt.

[sid4gamerfreak]

But if you want the best performance, you might wanna get the game on the superior pc version

[MNicholas]

then they've failed to get the most out of it.

As many developers have shown, the Cell has more than lived up to it's promise and enabled the RSX to render visuals that are at least 50% better than what the GPU could have accomplished by itself.

GT5 Prologue is the most obvious example of this.

It's only because of the Cell that the game isn't limited to 720P or less. Instead it renders 50% higher resolution than competitors with approximately similar GPU capability while also rendering up to 16 cars with, easily, the most realistic lighting in any racing game.

[Christopher]

Would you mind showing me the break down of time spent on developing for each console, since you seem to have this information at hand?

I'm not saying that the PS3 didn't require a bit more effort, because they said it did, but 2-3x the resources? Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one.

Also, I think people are using the term 'performance' to mean 'graphical quality' when in reality it may mean improving framerate by 5fps on average or something like that.

The most important note from the article is this: "Our man Ryan saw just a snippet of gameplay running on PS3, and said it looked exactly the same as the 360 version."

[champ21]

@franky

Steam says NO :P

To each is their own. Ill be getting the PC version at 33usd along with my buddies, if steam has a the usual 4 pack ;-)

[What Would Kratos Do]

I'll start taking bets now.
I accept PayPal.

PC version will look the best:- 2/7
PS3 version will look the best:- 3/1
360 version will look the best:- 5/2

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Strangeevil, whats your point? Crysis 2 will be on the 360 and yes it will look way better than KZ2. Do you see whats going on there? Most of the PS3 extremist propaganda says the 360 is a weak console and that the PS3 is vastly superior. But that opinionated superiority is only "slight". I mean, only 2 games from Sony's 1st party studios look "slightly" better than the games on the 360, 3rd party games at that! Now the first Crysis game on PC, thats vastly superior than anything out there. People are using the word superior a little too loosely...

Edit: Disagrees, but no rebuttal? Figures, people can't deny the truth and if so, I'm all ears...

Edit: Strangeevil, once again there is that propaganda that rears its head. Maybe you think you're talking to someone who doesn't have access to a PS3 and its games. Crysis on PC=vastly superior to other platforms, PS3(1st party exclusives)=Slightly better than 360(multi-plats not included). Now, I'll agree with anyone who says that MS doesn't have anything out yet to compare to Sony's 1st party games.

[Hellsvacancy]

Crysis 2 will b crap anyway, no matter wot console its on, so y care

[bnaked]

@iFLOWLIKEWATER

no, have you seen the cryengine tech trailer from the GDC??? I have watched it on my Bravia in 720p and it looked awful. It looks like 576p without anti-aliasing.. Or look at the first two screenshots! The textures are mediocre at best and the aliasing is just awful.. Thats just my opinion about the tech demo but maybe it was just the 360 version and the PS3 version will look much better, i don't know. I want to see Crysis 2 PS3 footage..

[OmegaSlayer]

Actually, whatever version is better doesn't bother me, but this Crytek bullying that I read every day is becoming ball breaking.

[Strange_Evil]

iFLOWLIKEWATER:-

"Crysis 2 will be on the 360 and yes it will look way better than KZ2"

Hold you horses and lets see some gameplay before we pass the verdict right?

"Most of the PS3 extremist propaganda says the 360 is a weak console and that the PS3 is vastly superior"

There are nuts on both the sides. Do you want me to pull out all the comments by 360 fanboys saying PS3 GPU is weak, Blu-Ray is useless and CELL was doomed from the beginning? The fact is, all the current AAA exclusive on the PS3 look better than anything 360 has shown till now be it KZ2, UC2 or GOW3. At least PS3 fanboys have something to show as proof. And please 'SLIGHTLY' isn't the case here. See UC2 or GOW3(which even hits 60FPS) and it's A LOT better looking that Gears 2 (current best from 360) (Oh and also pulling out more FPS in GOW3's case).

Besides, I agree, PC version will be superior, but it's great to see the dev putting in more efforts to optimize the PS3 version. Crytek has said it time and time again that "THEY WILL HIT THE PS3 CEILING".. Never heard them say the same about the 360?? Even EA always say "WE LIKE TO MAX OUT THE PS3".. Why not the 360?? Major devs have agreed PS3 is the benchmark with it's exclusive in graphics hence target it.

[The Wood]

we'll see if it looks better than killzone when it comes out.

This we're the victim crap is annoying (we can exhale now huh).. When gears 1 and bioshock were the best games from graphical standpoint there was no end to the chest thumping by many 360 fans and fair enough it was true BUT the ps3 has proved on many occasions spanning different genres that IT is the console graphical beast this gen and now SOME go on like they dont care about graphics anymore....until, of course, a game gets hyped to be better than a ps3 exclusive.....thats when you see em ALL come out...The FACT is when a multiplatform game has a pixel difference people scream from the hills but compare exclusives and its.....'teh gameplay' or 'sales'...bullsh!t. people reap what they sow and its all fair in love war and console wars;)

an example of the fact that 360 guys DO want great graphics and wannt to thump their chest again like the old days...

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

lol....victims my a** :)

only 2 games huh

wheres ur mlb 09/10

wheres ur LAIR even....yeah i went there technically

wheres ur wipeout hd.......ar forget it

I know that the 360 has points where its better than the ps3.... its just better games from a graphical/technical standpoint isnt one of em... You'd think after 4 + years there would be more of a fight but a lack of studios can do that

[Fanb0y]

Note the words 'performs better' used over 'looks better'.

Crytek is striving for some level of visual equivalence on the console versions.

Most likely, the same textures will be used. The PS3 version likely has a much more consistent framerate, and possibly a differend kind of AA that utilizes the Cell.

[CrazzyMan]

PS3 is more POWERFUL, than x360.
This was proven MANY times with games like MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3 and other PS3 exclusives, wich outperform in graphics department EVERY x360 game.

Recent x360 attempts:

FFXIII doesn`t run in HD on x360.
Alan Wake(2010) can`t match Uncharted 2(2009).

PS3 is just superior. <- This should be common knowledge already and not questioned ever again.

[raztad]

@IFLOW

"I haven't seen anything out there blowing its games out of the water, only slightly better graphics, meaning a little more attention to detail."

You got to be kidding me. Just go to GT5P vs Forza3 DF comparison, it's pretty enlightening.

Regarding Crysis 2. Crytek has been trying to hype their tech saying they are reaching the PS3 ceiling. If the xbox Crysis gameplay is how the PS3 will look I'll safely say they failed very hard at maxing the PS3 out.

@guy above saying xbox does better AA than PS3

You havent played GoW3. Enough said

[Steffl3r]

Of course that how its going, 1 PS3 has the graphical edge, so Microsoft will have the edge over Sony in PC, while PS3 has the edge over Microsoft in consoles. Sounds like theyre being fari to both companies and as long as they put the atteniton and care they do into the 360 port as they do the PC and PS3 I'll be happy. Because although they wont be the "best" the 360 graphics will probably still be something to drool over, because its not like theyre gonna kill the graphics just because its on 360, 360 can handle it, it certainly hasnt been maxed out yet. In fact that excites me about both consoles because just when you think it can be done they push the boundaries again and again =)

[FragGen]

I want a PSP version!

[Persistantthug]

and which developers gave them help.

Would be interesting to know.

[EvilBlackCat]

Funny how PS3

"Slightly Does Everything"

[IaMs12]

This does not confirm it will LOOK better. Something can look the same but not run the same. EX: 360 may run at a solid 30 FPS, which is acceptable but the PS3 may run it at 60 but produce the same visuals. Which, this can indeed make the game look better but in the end will it? dunno...

[pixelsword]

He's been talking so much junk I expect Crysis 2 on consoles to out preform Crysis 1 on the PC; since people have been comparing Killzone 2 to Crysis 1; plus, people are comparing console and PC games to Killzone 2 and not Crysis 1.

[MGRogue2017]

The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree after all.. eh? :)

The truth is now revealed to us all now, gentlemen.. May we all raise our glasses to a glorious victory for the amazing PlayStation 3! :D

[JustTheFactsMr]

PS3 is way ahead on graphics, physics, HD 7.1 audio and putting them all together at the same time.

Memory that runs 4.5x as fast as the 360 is just one of the reasons it competes with all but the highest end PC's.

There are reasons the Cell DESTROYS those high and mighty PC based machines for things like Folding@Home. Fact is it's number crunching leaves them in the dust.

Now waits while all the PC fanboys claim physics and graphics aren't based on number crunching.

[HDgamer]

Getting both versions, PC and ps3. Pc will be mainly for the Cryengine 3 editor if it's released along with it.

[DOMination]

This game will prove how much rubbish Sony was talking when they said Killzone was only possible on PS3. As for the headline in this article, it's pure science fiction.

[r0s3b0wl23]

Doesn't matter which one is better because Crysis is a crappy generic shooter anyway.

[Pika-pie]

Awesome, guess I know which version il be getting

[fullmetal297]

@JustTheFactsMr

LOL, PS3 beating the PC in anything is just as delusional as the xbox 360 fanboys saying the 360 being better the PS3 hardware wise. If your all powerful PS3 can "DESTROY" high end PCs then why isn't the majority of its games are in 720p and plays @ 30 frames. And just for the record, my PC also has folding@home.

[dc1]

I am a fan - Very good "thereapersson" very good.

Commodore64, I said it before,.. you have the best handle (I love it),. but,.. you need to enter into the world of the PS3,. it's safe, it's fun, it's engrossing,it's apolitical and it saves small babies and kittens simultaneously... yeah it does that.

[Heisenberg]

Worst attempt to spin something I've ever seen. You should be very embarrassed, cause that was sad, and desperate. Not to mention a flat out lie.

Spin it any way you like, at the end of the day, you know as well as the rest of us that what they were saying was they're getting better performance out of the PS3 than the 360.

[HolyOrangeCows]

While it's nice to hear, the console footage we've seen still looks stinkin' awful. The textures look like something out of a last-gen game.

[huzzaahh]

The PS3 exclusives that are vastly superior to the 360 exclusives are all 1st party (with ONE, MGS4, being 3rd party). Get your facts straight.

Yes, VASTLY SUPERIOR.

Anyway, I believe that all three versions will look great, with PC leading, PS3 in second (although not much better than the 360 version, since it's a multi-plat), and of course 360 in third.

I do honestly wish that those idiots at Crytek would just shut up and finish their game, though.

[mikepmcc]

ZOMG THE PS3 OUTPERFORMS THE 360 BIG SURPRISE!!11!!!1

Ever heard of tech specs?? The 360 is inherently underpowered compared to the ps3, so why wouldn't there be a different? 360 fanboys, stop being in denial, and PS3 fanboys, quit touting the obvious.

[huzzaahh]

Hey! The major 360 butthurt fanboy is back! Accept that the PS3 is technically superior, because thinking otherwise is futile. You just make yourself look like a complete idiot.

Nobody should take your opinion seriously since you said that God of War III had "okay" graphics. Spoken like a true Xbot. How's denial treating you?

[Lightsaber]

Not to say its not true but given that its a ps3 site what you think they are going to say.

[Mikeyy]

You raise and awesome point.

What IS Valves excuse for struggling with PS3?

[BWS1982]

it took a long enough amount of time, but Commodore finally has most of his communicative capacity reduced to where it should be. Let the Gods of normalcy rejoice in the pure joy of reduced ignorance and insanity.

I can't state whether I will buy Crysis 2 on PS3 or PC, but I never wanted it on my 360 only because I try to reduce the usage of it. I get the 14 exclusives I have on there and enjoy those, but if I can add one more game to the other platforms so I don't have to worry about malfunctions and design flaws showing, I'm all for that.

It doesn't surprise me at all Crysis 2 will eek out a bit better performance from the PS3, as we already have precedents for the platform, all we needed were devs with balls and know-how to ensure we stop getting shoddy ports and versions slapped together (and asshat publishers who push said devs into a time crunch, because that is also a problem, it's not always the devs' fault).

[vhero]

Well, well, well 360 fans excuses will all be coming out now commodore was the first eh?? But you can't think of anything it's rather funny.. This was obvious really why can't people admit the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 and move on?? We all know its true.. Sick of it all to be honest.. Who cares about this anyways?? It will still sell millions on 360..

[Hill_billy]

I just want it to look good no matter what platform I play it on. I personally play more on the PC and PS3 but will buy any port on the 360 if it is the better game. In this case, it sounds like the PC will be my choice but glad to hear that the PS3 is looking great.

[ThanatosDMC]

But the sad thing is if it does look like the released screenshots it still looks like sh!t.

[DaTruth]

Honesty is the best policy!

In before all Hell breaks loose!

[RedDragan]

Bet you the 360 version will still get the highest Meta score of the 3 platforms.

These days I have lost faith in reviews. It seems they have hidden agenda's.

[DelusionalMsBot]

why does just cause 2 have a higher metascore on the ps3 than 360 then?

[Icyhot]

"why does just cause 2 have a higher metascore on the ps3 than 360 then?"

Maybe cause PS3 version had an exclusive feature of directly dumping the vids on youtube or your HDD? This might sound small, but for a game like JC2 where amazing scene just happen out of the blue, it's better to just capture and show it off. Just go to youtube, there are some amazing videos. In fact that is the reason why I am getting the PS3 version. I love to show off my stuff.

Besides, both Digital Foundry and LOT confirmed that PS3 and 360 versions are identical... So your point fails...

FF13 on the other hand blatantly showed the media bias. 360 version was nowhere near the PS3 version (Disc swapping, 720P vs 576P gameplay, 1080P vs 576P CGI, Blurry Textures....) Yet it outscored the PS3 version o_0.

[DelusionalMsBot]

ff13 is a 82 on 360 compared to 83 on ps3

[corneliuscrust]

that lame "media is bias" (even though the word is biasED) argument is losing steam.

[KingME]

They already know that if the 360 version performed slightly better the PS3 Fanboys would have a hissy fit. Why have to deal with that, so let's say the PS3 version runs slightly better to avoid it.

Also, they claim that they have had no problems developing the PS3 version as compared to the 360 version, yet they also admitted that the spent more time on the PS3 version tweaking it out to be better optimized for the PS3. (Sounds somewhat like a contradiction to me)

[BWS1982]

stop your spin, Commodore and you are the kinds of people that bring sheer nausea to this hobby and site. Holy crap are you out of your mind. Lying so that PS3 owners buy the game? You'll do anything to file down the corners of that square peg to fit it in the round hole, huh pal? Does it help you sleep at night?

And no, no contradiction (just denial on your part)...it's simple, actually. They can simultaneously have no problems with the PS3 version and take longer to do it because it's more time consuming, that doesn't mean they had to "figure it out" or "make it work", just that the parameters of the same task require different time frames. Because you had to wash your car with a tooth brush and not a sponge, is it inherently a mental strain? No, the task can be simple but time consuming. Time allotment does not always equate to difficulty. SPE's are more involved and unique than a triple core processor. Learn to think a bit. Gawd...

Really, I don't know where you people come from.

[vhero]

I agree reddragon because the media don't want to fall out with MS as they get lots of "incentives" from them. I have a couple of friends in the game industry and MS regularly send them free stuff. They know though if they low ball MS games compared to Sony's they can kiss those free gifts goodbye.

[dj55555555]

All multi plat should be like this. Make the game all it can be for the PS3 and PC and downgrade it for the 360, everyones happy.

[The Wood]

..but the ps3 is a bit of a beast when used correctly....time will tell if these guys can make it happen like sony guys do

[bjornbear]

well..I somehow expected this =)

on the other hand, I doubt they've optimized it for the PS3

(first time making a game for it, not even ND's first attempt were as successful as it's second)

so this only means their next efforts will be even MORE =O!!!! awesome news =3

im sure both versions will not let anyone down though =)

[LTC]

bu,bu,bu faster jjjjjjeeeeeeeppppppeeeeeeeeeew wwwwwwwwwww

[piramides30]

THE TRUTH HURTS.

[bnaked]

I think they already know the truth.

[kwyjibo]

THE TRUTH is better on PC.

[piramides30]

I'm a PCGamer too but in Crisis case, you play part of the game 25 fps and another parts 5 fps. The console version will be more steady.
For me Crisis games are bullshit, too much hardware for nothing really new. If all games had the same requirements would be much better.

[Corrwin]

Can't wait to enjoy the massive differences the extra 2 feet of LOD and Mipmap distance will provide, or perhaps all the extra rounds I can fire in those extra 3-5FPS, or maybe the extra buildings and trees they'll be able to fit into the higher resolution!

[palaeomerus]

We're going by a Crysis dev's defintion of 'slightly better at the moment'. Remember?

[Foxgod]

a slight difference....
Am i supposed to be dissapointed now?

[Nelson M]

.

[duplissi]

see if you werent a fanboy you wouldnt care..... and the fact that you even bothered to make a comment of that stance just proves that you are a fanboy.

[Foxgod]

well, i am not, i am not a pixel counter.

[Fishy Fingers]

Fox perhaps I'm mistaken but I'm sure you used mention owning a decend, i7, equipt gaming PC. So surely that would be your preferred option towards Crysis 2?

[Foxgod]

yes, i will play it on pc.
But my comment was more aimed at all the trolling in this article.
I was wondering if i am supposed to be dissapointed with my 360 because it displays 0.1 % pixels in Crysis 2.

I surely am not.
But you have a good point, i just laugh at the ps3 port of Crysis 2.

[bjornbear]

*licks tears off Foxgod's face*

[thehitman]

you really have me in tears how butthurt u look.

[HDgamer]

Sorry but the dvd 9 isn't doing any favors since the ps2/xbox era

[rjgbyrne]

Bayonetta, Dead Space, Batman... Its all HYPE, are Crytek stupid enough to state that the PS3 version will be better before releasing games… that’s cutting there profits from Xbox gamers before they have a product to sell. Or boosting PS3 sales in case the final version is not up to scratch. Both Xbox and PlayStation are “Beasts” when programmed correctly.

My next comment is in the OPEN ZONE!

[kneon]

You are assuming Xbox owners won't buy the game if it looks better on PS3, that seems unlikely. They may instead buy it for PS3 but I wouldn't expect a boycott, that would be silly. Since they have all the bases covered I doubt they care which platform it sells on, as long as it sells.

[corneliuscrust]

both consoles can perform well if you code efficiently. Who knows what clever programmers can do, but there are ALWAYS more creative and efficient ways to display what we see on the screen. ALWAYS.

[green]

Going to be a good looking game on all platforms. Still need to see more about the game before i am sold.

[Goldsack]

..hope anyone has a suicide help number for shaman!!!

[Shaman]

If its better on ps3,then its ok,ps3 will be confirmed to have more power,but i dont believe this.Its ps3 magazine,they show 360 version,gamespot quoted Cevat saying ps3 is nearly identical to 360 version,their tech director said 360 has easier time with shaders so i would not jump the gun if i were you.

[Ju]

You wouldn't believe it if 1000 other people would tell you that you can work around those "so much more sophisticated" shaders on the PS3 and that the SPUs basically can increase your shader power (or add additional features, which the GPU actually doesn't provide, e.g. texture filtering, etc (MLAA) ).

That has been said before, it has been ignored before. And yet, looks like the more common those methods become, the more pronounced is the effect even in multiplayer games. Those reports are based on reasonable technical facts, and yet get denied by a lot of people.

[Shaman]

Yes,spus can help with vertex shaders but dont fool yourself if you think they gonna do pixel shading,no body uses them for it.But as you know xenos has very big advantage in vertex shaders in comparison with RSX,spus can help but how many of them are there.You need them for general code(cpu calculations,physics,a.i,anima tions...) post processing,shadowing,depth of field,blur,but you spend alot of them on triangle culling and skinning that RSX really NEEDS.

[Ju]

It has an advantage in vertex shading IF you don't use any pixel shaders, that is. Other than that, the Xenos is what it is. No reserves left. If you can't harness those extra EDRAM performance somehow, you get exactly what you have according to specs. SPUs are flexible and allow for creative minds to explore SW solutions which the specs as such do not cover. Has been proven again and again in the past.

And, well, SPUs are not faster than the GPU. Using pixel ops (because of small SRAM size and no cache) can be tricky. But doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit the core render pipeline. Texture filtering has been implemented by various games on the SPUs. So it's far from "nobody uses it". Some do, and the results show.

[Shaman]

LOL what are you saying?It does not make sense.Unified structure does not work like that(devs divide number of vertex and pixe alus) it works like this:when your frame is heavy on pixels like water(also low on vertex)you will allocate all your allus for pixel shading.When you do for example skyscrapers then gpu will alone dedicate necessary alus for vertex and at the same time use others for pixel shading.Thats how it works.While RSX works like this when you render skyscrapers first your vertex shaders setup geometry and your pixel shaders stall,then your pixel shaders shade while vertex just sit idle,thus loosing efficiency.

[Consoldtobots]

oh brother

some people will just NEVER get it when it comes to the PS3s rendering pipeline. It has already been proven that the SPUs are more than capable of handling any graphical task you throw at them to the point of giving you the option of using the RSX just for raster output yet we have to hear everybody and their brother in denial about this little fact even though the exclusive games absolutely BLOW AWAY anything the "xenos" has been able to produce.

give it a rest already.

[Ju]

@Shaman, how is that different than what I said ? It doesn't matter who distributes what. With an intelligent setup you want to make sure the RSX does not run into a stall, thus not saturating the vertex units, say through vertex reduction (vertex culling) in the beginning of your render pipeline. While you'd throw all you got at the xenos, because it would organize that itself - and because there is no unit fast enough to do the culling anyway (except allocating 100% VMX resources, "stalling" the int/fp cores). What's your point ? Yes, you need to organize your data (maybe even in the pre-production) better to get the better/same performance. If you don't we get those MP "game port" results.

[emazzuca]

All you whining PS3 is better then 360, and vice-versa.

I am so tired of half the articles on this site are focused on this!

They are both really good consoles.

if you think differently, your an idiot.

[divideby0]

I agree to some extent...but before you call anyone an idiot..there are many of us who are on our 3rd launch 360.... so you really either have a short term memory problem or just not being fair..or just only own the 360 and totally biased

[edhe]

You obviously don't get the point of this site's comments then - it's a ps3 circlejerk with the odd sane person baiting them.

Haven't you realised that by now?

OT - if it's running better on ps3 that's nice. Nobody's ever said that before. Honest.

[2Spock]

Im on my 3rd PS3 and 2nd 360, so whats your point?

[divideby0]

^ 3rd PS3..
I will believe you, but even you totally understand you are in the minority and the fails are either do to neglect which I will give you the benefit of the doubt or without question "within industry failure rate'.... so there is the point clearly spelled out for you

[rjgbyrne]

Another game I’ll not bother with as Crytek are fueling fanboy fodder! Carl Jones can lather my Xbox ‘Balls’ and suck on my PS3 "Wand"!

Business Development Boss, where did you get your qualification... Dance you cares away, Muppet for another day... Down at Fraggle Rock!?!

[Silly gameAr]

Wow. I think I should give you a bub for being batsh!t crazy.

[RedDragan]

Most falmebait is created by the author of the report.

A dev is asked a question ancd answers it, the gaming journo then uses clever wording to make it seem like the dev is favouring one system.

Blame N4G, it encourages these sites to pump out flamebait!

[kingboy]

Let's just hope we don't fall victim to restrictions and many other coarctations because of space limitations too

[Dylantalon1]

i dont buy multiplatform games unless devs are utilising the ps3s strength instead of making the ps3s version the same as the xbox 360 version. people are delusional if they think the ps3s hardware and xbox 360s hardware are the same. the exclusive games are the proof which shows that the ps3s hardware is better and people always seem to forget that the ps3 supports a disc format that is capable of 50gbs where as the xbox 360 supports dvd 9 discs with about 7gbs. the xbox 360 is inferior to the ps3 which is totally fine but i dont understand people lying to themselves about that FACT and cry about it. i know that some fanboys think that the xbox 360s system hardware power will leap ahead of the ps3 overnight but all i have to say is these peopleare insane. a rational thinking person can research the systems hardware power or just look at the exclusive games and see a big difference between the systems. ill buy crysis 2 if the devs utilises the SPUs and blu ray in the ps3 because then id know that they didnt hold back the ps3s version.

[thereapersson]

The talon stands for "talented"

[edhe]

Sigh. Disc size != graphics quality. Invested graphics engines != better hardware.

Remember folks the hardware in the playstation3 is *older* than the one in the 360 - yet it came out after.

Awshum!

[kneon]

You must be referring to the GPUs. I guess you don't realize that the PS3 doesn't even need the GPU. The PS3 wasn't originally supposed to have a GPU but it was added late in the design phase to make the transition easier for developers. The SPUs do the work of a quite powerful GPU.

[edhe]

Yeah the GPU was put in to replace the second Cell chip that was supposed to be there.

'grats Sony, you bought into the very reason ms ran away from nvidia. Fools.

If you say it doesn't need a GPU then please pry it out and see how well it works there. Fact is - it does. Any design concept based with no GPU was silly which is why Sony eventually bit the stupid-bullet and bought a bespoke chip supply from nvidia, instead of taking the MS/nintendo route and getting the whole IP.

next!

[AK46]

@ edhe

Your right the PS3 did come out a yr later. The only thing that was keeping the PS3 coming out in the same time as the Xbox was the PS3 blue ray diods, as they are difficult to manufacture. Everything in the PS3 was was done at the same timeline as the Xbox.

[bjornbear]

good seeing you join the circle jerk ;)

[Ju]

Nobody really knows, what Sony's plan was for the GPU. What was known, though, was, they tried an inhouse solution, most likely based on PS2's GS (kind of a super GS?); I doubt the plan was a second CELL, but, yes, vector cores were meant to take the load for all kind of processing, including visuals (the PS3 design approach is/was still a SuperPS2).

It didn't work - in November 2005. And thus, they had to scrap those plans and went to NVidia to add a GPU (hence the 1 year delay for the PS3 after the 360 was released - it wasn't Blu-Ray). The CELL left the sample waver the same time as 360s cpu (a week later, because it was a different manufacturer - basically IBM, while MS hired a 3rd party).

[IHateYouFanboys]

Ju, do your research - IBM made the CPU for both the 360 and PS3. they even have come out specifically stating that they created the cell, then used the knowledge they gained from creating that to make the 360s CPU.

straight from the horses mouth. in the same article they also say that all things considered, both the PS3 and 360 are pretty much equal power wise. PS3 fanboys just choose to ignore that though, as it proves their 'the PS3 is so much more powerful' lies incorrect.

and yes, the PS3 was supposed to have 2 Cell processors, one as a GPU and one as a CPU. also note that IBM have canned future development on the Cell processor, so they are pretty much resigned to the fact that it wasnt all they hoped it would be.

[Consoldtobots]

except the second half of the Dave Shippy interview (what the fanboy above me is referring to) went into detail about how ONCE MS WAS IN THE PICTURE SNOOPING AROUND Sony went into non-disclosure closed door meetings between their engineers and IBM designers and that's where the SPU scheme was developed. So no they are not equal when you READ THE ARTICLE IN ITS ENTIRETY.

[Ju]

This would certainly help:

http://www.amazon.com/Race-...

[divideby0]

these dudes are being to mouthy over the past week.
show me something....

[Kurylo3d]

of course they are being mouthy... they need the amount of money they put into the engine to see a return on their investment.

I mean its funny how the ps3 fanboys are taking this word as truth. Is it so hard to see through the bull. The crytek guys know 360 people will buy it regaurdless... they just buy games. Sony console people tend to hold off on buying unless it gives them some sort of pride for buying it. (why this is i dont know.. feel free to disagree its not that important to make this argument for me.)

My only point is they play people. They have done it with crysis warhead when they said there is a huge framerate jump from crysis (not true)...

I work for a partner of crytek and i happen to know a lot of people who mess with the engine.. hell ive seen the engine up close. From what I was told, im just saying i was told this, about the cryengine 3 is that the 360 gpu handles certain things better where as the ps3 cpu handles other things better. They are both better in certain sections. From what i saw of the engine when it was demoed to me.. i did not see any kind of real difference.

The difference that i did see however (at the time) was that the ps3 had a bit more geometry on the landscape on a beach (nothing major) and that the 360 version had a weird shadow popping issue at the time on the island. Other then that the 360 version had slightly higher framerates.

Now this is what i saw for that current build. Might not be whats happening currently. For all i know the ps3 version is dominating the 360... or vice versa. But my personal opinion is that this is all marketing. They want your money. They will probably get mine lol... for the pc version that is.

[kneon]

Well at least they toned it down a bit. Someone from Crytek had been claiming it would be the best looking an every platform. Now they backed off to the more reasonable "top 3".

I'm not saying that it couldn't be the best looking on all platforms, but if they are going to make such claims then it had better be head and shoulders above everything else. anything less and they're just asking for trouble.

[Ju]

"From what I was told, im just saying i was told this, about the cryengine 3 is that the 360 gpu handles certain things better where as the ps3 cpu handles other things better."

This is pretty much known by now (not because Crytek says so). The question remains, how much of an advantage the 360 GPU has, and how much of that advantage can be compensated by the CELL. Done right, it looks like this swings towards the CELL. It all depends how heavy they load the CPU with other tasks like physics/AI and if they have headroom to do visual processing.

You just conformed Crytek's statement while they even go so far, to say the PS3 has a slight performance edge.

[blasian]

you cant handle the truth!!!

OT: The devs didnt have to go very far to beat the graphical bar on trashbox but they have to work overtime to try to beat the graphical bar on ps3 seeing as its so high.

[8thnightvolley]

i dont think this should come as a shock if the ps3 is slightly stonger but more or less they are sort of the same just ps3 is just abit stronger .... thats about it.. for 360 only owners i dont think u guys should see this as a negetive coz really the console is doing so much things the even the ps3 is not and alot of good games are coming natals come on... only a slight strength aint gonna make a world of difference the same gaddamn game is on both.

[dj55555555]

True, can you imagine the scale and variety if these guys, rockstar, activision or EA where to fill a blu-ray.

[kingboy]

Unfortunately we're paying the price for these setbacks man.

[Noob]

You want ultra realistic top-notch graphics then buy the PC version and a PC that's capable of playing it at those settings. Other than that, the console graphics of Crysis 2 aren't even worth arguing over. It'll be a slight/unnoticeable difference.

[clintos59]

I can bet if Naughty Dog or Sony Santa Monica were to make a game where they went for a "REALISTIC LOOK" I bet they would crap all over the ps3 crysis 2 graphics. I mean look how amazing uncharted 2 & god of war 3 & they were both going for the artistic style but both look amazing.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

What industry are you referring to? And if any games are pushing the envelope it would be the one this article is about. BTW, you couldn't possibly be a graphics whore and only play console games...seriously.

[The Simple Truth]

No wi-fi
No Blu-Ray
No power

Plenty of RROD and shoddy build quality.

[You Noob]

LOOOOOOL The truth hurt, bots?

@the-warriors
Sorry, but you posted OLD NEWS, search for latest news and you will be suprised but... PS3 Version > XFlop Version
FAIL

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

The 'PS3' version should look 100 Times MORE better than the 'xBotched 360' version!!! ;-D

+ I bet you it won't look as good as 'KILLZONE 2' ;)

[ELite_Ghost]

Idk about u Sir Ken, but this game looks cartoony, am I right??

[Dance]

If the game runs slightly better on the 360 than it does on the PS3 it's the developers fault.

If the game runs slight better on the PS3 than it does on the 360 it the developers fault.

[midgard227]

well we all know ps3 is stronger graphic wise so its not devs fault if the weaker system doesnt run aswell.

its like a normal pc vs high end pc, is it the devs fault it doesnt run on a normal one? noooo,

the reason its the devs dault when its ps3 bad and 360 good is cuz they didnt take time to work on the ps3, they just port it.

no reason a ps3 game shud run/look worse than 360 counter part when we have games like GT5, gow, uncharted 2,KZ2 mgs4 etc etc.

so it makes sense. while the 360 isnt vastly inferior to the ps3 there is definatly a difference and we see the difference in both ms and sonys first party games

[dj55555555]

Mulit platform games and xbox exclusives look about the same graphically. Ps3 exclusives are graphically superior to multi plats, so you would think that the PS3 version would be superior but mostly this isn't the case so the blame is on the developers as a smaller less power hungry game shouldn’t be a problem for the PS3.

[TaylorMade]

But who cares? This is all PR Bulls*it... Crytec talk the talk, but like Turn 10 they will not walk the walk..

Cryengine 3 is a multiplat engine, it never can match does of GG, SM or ND... Every PS3 owner knows that...

Only Xbox and PC guys are excited about Crysis 2...

[tripewire]

To be fair man, Forza 3 isnt that bad. The trackside detail is very good. The tracks feel too narrow, and the car detail lags a fair bit, but its actually not a bad game. Not definitive, and I prefer the driving model in GT5:P and Academy, but it doesnt completely suck.

[iamgoatman]

If selling 2.4m with a meta score of 92 isn't "walking the walk" then what the hell is exactly?

[Biggest]

When did Crytek sell 2.4mil copies of any 92 scored Metacritic console game?

[iamgoatman]

@Biggest

My comment was referring to Forza 3, not Crysis.

Dumbass.

[xg-ei8ht]

360 would run games better if the PS3 was not using spu's.

That's why when alot of games were using just the main processor, they were slower then 360.

Orange box is a prime example of this.

Didn't use spu's.

But cryteks engine does.

[Biggest]

The Cleveland Cavaliers wouldn't be as good as the New Jersey Nets if they didn't use LeBron James.

[bunfighterii]

who gives a battletoads butt anyway. who really notices that much anyway?

where's the gameplay footage!

[gijsbrecht]

For some reason I don't give a damn' anymore about what they're saying. Until now it's been just all talk. And what I did see thus far doesn't get me excited at all.

[SacredWizard]

Gee, who would have guessed.

[bobrea]

DURRRRRR..who cares, the PC version will look better than both. Crysis kind of sucks anyway.

[nemrawy]

This game was the XBOTS last hope to prove that the X360 is as strong as the PS3....The Xbots were hyping it to death but now they will try to bring it down and you will see it...LOL

In what world can the X360 out-perform the PS3.

That said , I still believe that KZ3 will look better :)

[tudors]

That just hyped me big time, the video I saw was much shorter, really looking forward to this now.

[frankymv]

Cevat Yerli has consistently stated that he prefers the PS3 for its graphical grunt over 360. Further, he has also confirmed that Crytek will be using the PS4 specs (which is deep into development) as the benchmark for next gen games.

[mittwaffen]

Maybe on the PS4 we'll get true 720P and maybe a game or two with 1080P?

Sorry, consoles will never be leading visually; a good looking game has to have high resolution so you can actually enjoy more of what your seeing clearly. If you buy consoles for graphics; you should go pickup a PC.

Thats my only beef with consoles, it how low resolution they are. It feels like going from Crysis PC to a 8-Bit Mario game at times.

[frankymv]

if you read thoroughly, I NEVER mention that consoles are graphically superior to the PC. What I am implying is that of the existing consoles, the Playstation is the most powerful platform. The gaming world is moving away from the PC and to the console for a multitude of reasons (from piracy to streamlined specs).

Cevat yerli has repeatedly stated that they are waiting for PS4 specs to use as their development benchmarks for next gen (since consoles are where the money is).

Read this article from 2008:
http://playstation.joystiq....

[mittwaffen]

You cannot upgrade a console, thus as technology advances game companies will try to get more eye candy at the cost of resolution. This is common in the console industry, and will not change if the foreseeable future.

PS4 will never be leading visually, neither will the next xbox; because when they come out they hardware in the design will already be outdated.

We'll be lucky if its 1080P at all, unless sony/ms make 1080P a Mandelbrot requirement.

[Tobes]

It's as if Sony kids can only talk about how things look and don't even realise they're playing kack games on an horrific online service.

[infamousinfolite]

HAHAHA Hey Look Another Butthurt Xbot HAHAHAHAHA

[The Iron Sheik]

I'll take changing the subject for $200 Alex.

[Meryl]

yeah it's so horrific(sarcasm) we have more connected users online, psn is faster and more reliable the only thing psn does not have is cross chat and cross gaming, but i don't care about those features, go cry elsewhere bot

[mittwaffen]

If you buy this on either console they will look equally as bad compared to the PC.

The differences between the xbox/ps3 will be so tiny compared to the PC version that will literally destroy the consoles in every front.

If you buy this game for graphics, i'll be very disappointed in console fanboys trying to get their fix when it'll just be a watered down version of the PC visually. But the consoles will most likely waterdown the gameplay on all platforms.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Since this company is PC only, I'm glad that they are even attempting to develop for the PS3 considering the many complaints you get from many multi-platform developers. So I can enjoy my free online and amazing graphics on one console.

[spdarksky]

I should be careless, and you should too. As i will play this game on my PC gaming rig with mouse and keyboard. And i really think that a 2 years old PC gaming rig should be more than enough to handle this game on the same setting (or higher) than PS3 or 360 version.

[mittwaffen]

As long as they have a decent GPU (newish) and atleast a dual core.

[Danja]

Well we shall find out when the games comes out , wouldnt be surprised if it did run a lil better on the PS3 since it sounds like they spent alot of time optimizing for the PS3

[nemrawy]

Hey kiddo why don't you go and play that stealth genre defining 4-hrs long game with Sub-HD graphics...LOL

[Tobes]

Sorry, I don't play bad games. One of the reasons I don't have a PS3

[PS3 Supremacy]

Let's see. Which exclusive games have been racking up GOTYs since 08? Oh right, the ones on the PS3 and only the PS3.

What have you been playing since then? Gears 2? LOL go play your defective games on that defective pseudo-PC of yours.

[stonecold1]

and the bots deleted what i said typical morons because i said ps3 was 4x times more powerful than 360 because one bot went far to knock the ps3 on topic the bots just got owned again im going to get this game on ps3 if it lives up to the hype

[SyluxPT]

Fake .|.

[Tigan]

with ps3 having the more powerful hardware when it's properly optimized but as good as the ps3 may look there is no f*cking way im getting a game like crysis on a console when i got a rig that will just smoke both. I loved the first one and will only get the superior version for windows7.

[avengers1978]

You can expect to see this alot more often, consedering more devs are using the PS3 as the lead design... Vanquish, and Medal of Honor will also be this way.

[C L O U D]

Oh wow, very interesting, hopefully they would state why it preforms so well on the PS3 compared to the 360 with statistics, charts etc.

[REPLOID24]

As a PS3 owner I always take developers words, when it comes to their PS3 game, with a grain of salt. I only believe the words of the proven devs like Guerilla, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica. I remember what happened with GhostBusters, and I think devs say things like that to get burned PS3 owners to give it a chance. I always wait and see because I won't buy a low-res/screen tearing/chugging mess.

[maxcer]

your giving a lot of credit to developers that only have to produce a game on one platform, not 3, like most multiplat developers do. amazing games, yes, would it be the same if resources were split 3 ways? highly doubtful.

[phantomexe]

I heard that the frist game looked great on the pc but story and gameplay wish it was just ok.I've not seen it because i'm to lazy to drive all the way to a buddy house to look at it or play it so i'm just going off what he tells me.Its just another FPS.... build a rpg or action/aventure game useing the engine.

[iamgoatman]

Seeing as both console versions are being worked on separately to play to their own strengths, I expected to see some differences here and there.

Although the difference will likely be marginal, as both consoles are relatively even in terms of power, so fanboys don't go expecting the PS3 version to be hanging around with the PC version, leaving the 360 behind in the dust, we're talking tiny post processing and texture loading differences, not higher resolutions and lots of AA.

[chidori666]

killzone 2 destroy this horrible game..

killzone 2 it's definately the best looking game out there, people just get too easily sucked into the hype of games mult.

[Tobes]

Because best looking = best game. Right? Killzone is kack, get over it

[cyborg6971]

Killzone requires skill which is something you don't have and is why you resent the game tobes. Aka pp.

[Tobes]

Killzone requires skill? Oh dear.

Still working on your 'doctrite?' Idiot

[RagTagBnd445]

Crysis 1 is definitely the best looking game out there. And the gameplay of the original Crysis was quite different than Killzone 2.

[Bleem360]

I am constantly surprised by how many idiots can’t spell to save themselves here on N4G.

It's an embarrassment to humanity.

[nutbear96]

PC will be the best because it will get most support.

Now, to answer the console war, FACE IT! PS3 has better graphics, better (and more) exclusive games and free online (so why pay?) and built in Wi-fi. AND 90% of critics favour Xbox over PS3 so that answers why Xbox games get better reviews than PS3!

[ReBurn]

At the end of the day it's still a shooter. I hope that shooter fans really enjoy it. But no matter how good it looks or how well it runs, it's still a shooter. I won't buy it.

[ghostface]

:}

[Surt]

PC games are a joke now. And for those that say "you can use an old rig to play" who you kidding? (YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THAT!) You know there's more to that if you really want to get the most out of the game.

But like I said you ask now, what games you play on pc? And you'll most likely hear "FARMVILLE". The direction PC gaming has taken for the masses has irked me, but that's just me.

[ZeroX9876]

If they were really taking system seperatly, the results should have been better. The ps3 part of being slightly better is just normal, fact that the console is 1 year younger vs the 360. Technicaly, the hardware of the ps3 IS more powerful, but the 360 is so much more adapted to the programming that developers were already doing.

Even this guy told the interviewer that ps3 was easy to develop for, but it was easy since it's already been at least 3 years it's on the market, so somebody somewhere already find out how to work with it.

killzone and uncharted are 2 piece of software presenting some of the ps3 hardware capacity and I think that Alan Wake will prove that the 360 can be really powerful too if you put some effort into it.

Most of 360 games come from 3rd party studio and are exclusive. Halo was first party and the graphics weren't high profile at all. Microsoft should stop buying timed exclusive or paying advances to 3rd party. They should start building first party developpers.

It's true that Rare is one of the few and they haven't done anything Remarkable yet (not that their games are bad, but they were much more before microsoft.

[AK46]

Technicaly the PS3 hardware is not a yr older. The PS3 suppose to release the same yr as the Xbox but was delayed due to the blu ray diods.

[washingmachine]

of course it would,they wont say how much better,but to say,slightly.dont wonna make xboxrs mad lol

[LiquifiedArt]

.....TALK...

Show me how it stacks to KZ2, U2 and MGS4.

Till then, Bye bye.

[jjesso1993]

Surt pc games are joke ? i play 90% of multiplat games on my pc and about 90% of 360 exlusive well what xbox fanboys call exclsuive. all the those i play 1080p 40-60fps free online mods and i get cheaper games, and yes lots of people probs play farmville runescape ect but theres pc nearly in every house britain and amercian each person going want diffrent things some people want simple flash games some want hard core games like cryis some like mmorpg. and the fact is if your not stupid and dont rush and buy alienware pc you can get decent pc for about £350 stop being fanboy and opening your eyes pc gaming is one of the biggest gaming markets out there.

[ForROME]

Well it is true, its prob easier to get off the ground and going on the xbox as opposed to the PS3, however with hard work you get more from the PS3, but doesnt mean its worth it, thats a perspective per dev

To me there should be no reason why each system shouldnt be pushed to the max, I dont like this "equal" crap they do now, it must all look the same

Give the owners the best game you can..........period

[Dorwrath]

A difference in graphics means little. Except for Sony Fanboys who use it to compare their e-peens. Our PS3s can do way more, but you all go on about graphics as if that's the only thing the PS3 can do. Shhhhhs don't tell anyone, but it can do way way more.

The reason i won't buy it for my PS3 is simple the PS3s controller is awful for shooters. Mainly the poorly designed trigger buttons and the fact it feel to have to work to stop your fingers slipping off.

Besides too many good games coming out this year for both consoles, so this isn't high on my list of buys.

[ForROME]

Ill agree with you on the controller, SONY was lazy and needs to stop thinking their controller is god sent and move to a new design. Its not the worst but its quickly seeming out dated. Xbox is much more hand friends, but its out dated because it uses batteries (disp) lame.

SONY has no excuse on the triggers N64 Middle button was concave, Dreamcast and Xbox and its a trend people like some how SONY during their arrogant stage, didnt care, I think it will be fixed next go around though.

[Ju]

Which PS3 games use trigger buttons to, aehem, trigger ? Noone, except some half a$$ M$ brand ports (yeah, people used to develop for the 360 and trying to do a quick dime on the PS3).

All others use R1. How can your finger slip from there ?

[SuperStrokey1123]

I disagree, I find the ps3 controller far superior to the 360 controller. Its really just a personal preference though and to each their own i guess right?

[AKA228]

It's really annoying when people like to act as if their opinion is a fact. I personally think the ps3 controller is FAR superior for shooters, the joysticks are softer and have a larger range of motion and result in much more accuracy. I played countless hours of Modern Warefare on xbox360, and once I picked it up for ps3 my accuracy and headshots were much higher.

[IHateYouFanboys]

the PS3 analogue sticks are horribly innacurate and loose compared to the 360s. that combined with the convex top instead of concave means that the 360 analogues offer much better and more precise control.

[redneck_smith]

360 FAN GIRLS Butthurt? 100%

CRYSIS XBOX 360 579P 100%

PS3 FULL HD 1080P 100%

360 NEED BLU-RAY? 100%

WHATS NEXT? REACH LOOKS BETTER THAN KILZONE 2? KEEP DREAMING!

[Tobes]

Mentally disabled

[jjesso1993]

you no if really care about controller so much then you can by adapter that allows you to use a 360 controller on ps3 vice versa. i myself do prefer xbox controller but bothing beats kb and mouse.

[F4k]

"We haven't found it more difficult to develop for PS3"

[djfullshred]

funny, and oh so typical clueless replies.

Don't confuse graphics with the generic term "performance". You can have the same graphic quaility on two systems, and yet also deem one to have slightly better performance (a very broad term that could mean anything from frame rate, load times, etc).

Both 360 & PS3 have good enough graphics that no one should feel butthurt by these endless "which graphic is better" debate. And unless people have been living under a rock, everyone should know that the cell processer has more muscle to it than the 360 3 core processer. when properly programmed to distribute processing across all the available cells, there is just more horsepower. That does not mean the other system is bad though.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I remember when I was deciding on which console to get and people were telling me the PS3 hardware was horrible and impossible to develop on. It's funny how relative opinions like that are.

[jy_mrnd]

Getting the superior version bviously the pc version.To franky's comment steam has over 25 million pc gamers.PC gaming for life!

[Faksnima]

It baffles me how many of you just don't spend time digesting what is being said. The article refers to 'performance at the moment'. Performance usually refers to the fluidity of a game; frames per second. When performance is mentioned it usually has nothing to do w/ the graphics of the game. I'll give you an example. GTA IV performed better (better fps) on the 360, but at the end of the day alot of reviewers gave the slight visual nod to the PS3. It's too early in development to take the comments so feverently. Wait til the game's closer to release and keep in mind that most likely the game will look identical on both systems. This developer, unlike Square, seems to know what it's doing with multiconsole porting and taking it's time to deliver quality products on BOTH machines.

[anonymouse111335]

Here we go again, heres what he said

" "We're lucky in the fact that we've come to the generation slightly later than other people - the ones who were trying to build the first technology and games were surprised at how different the PS3 was. We took our time and worked out the right way to approach it.

"At the moment, we're getting slightly more performance from PS3 compared to 360. I'm very confident that products using CryEngine 3 are going to come out as the best looking, or at least in the top three, on every platform." "

He didn't say it performs better but their getting slightly more performance out of it at the moment, and that they seem to have had problems with developing for the PS3 at first but got around it, and any very small things with it will go blown out of proportion.

[PS360PCROCKS]

"Or top three" oh look now they are backing off their claims?

[jalen247]

They must have went back and played Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and GOW III.

[PS360PCROCKS]

funny u said that after I posted I said to myself "UC2, KZ2 and GOW III which one do they think it looks better than?" because I'm thinking crysis is #4

[0LDSCH00L]

The Xenon is the best for real-world performance in actual games; the Cell has the highest theoretical performance on certain workloads. For a same amount of investment, you get better performance out of the Xenon.

[n4gno]

facts are : killzone, uncharted, lbp, ratchet, mgs, gow, etc

can't be done on xbox ! (you can use theorical bullcraps to lie to yourself, it's easy to see that ps3 graphics are unbeattable superiors, and it's not because sony has better money to invest, just becaise the hardware is really superior)

[IHateYouFanboys]

lol

there is NO game on the PS3 or 360 that wouldnt run on the other console. both consoles are so similar in actual performance that its really not even worth comparing. you get different graphical nuances on each console - PS3 has more washed out colours, just like the PS2 before it, generally has less or worse Anti-Aliasing. 360 has more vibrant colours (often can be too vibrant) and things can tend to look shiny like they did on the Dreamcast.

but overrall its 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

[jalen247]

Why am I not surprised.

The more powerful console will have the better version of Cry Engine 3 and Crysis 2...makes perfect sense to me.

I also find it funny that they are saying that products using CryEngine 3 are going to come out as the best looking, or at least in the top three, on every platform.

They must have went back and played Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and GOW III and came to a realization.

[hoops]

If the Cryengine 3 can use the same level of destruction as Crysis 1, then no other game engine this generation matches it untilk I see KZ3 or UC3 or GOD4 have destructible enviroments looking like Crysis 2.

[hoops]

The irony here is ALL the PS3 fanboys stated MANY times on this site that NO MULTIPLATFORM game can look better then PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAMES.
They ALL said its impossible. We know who said this LOL

What's more they also said NO EXCLUSIVE XBOX360 game or XBOX360 MULTIPLATFORM game can look better then PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAMES. EVER.
What you are slowly seeing is certain people getting ready to eat crow.

Based on recent UNFINSIHED HD SHOTS of Crysis 2 on the Xbox360 and PS3, the game is looking better then any other game on consoles.
What that means is even if the PS3 version ends up looking better then the Xbix360 version, CRYSIS 2 on the Xbox360 will look better then ALL PS3 exclusive games......and Cysis 2 on the PS3 will be the best looking PS3 game...and this game has a destructible enviroment. AND it's multi-platform. I beleive a lot of "people" on this site are PRAYING to their gods that this does not end up true. LOL

Now we have to wait and see the final product before that claim can be true...however if these pictures of the game for both the PS3 and XBOX360 are a slight indecation of the final product (its still in the Aplha Stages) then
you will see a lot of people on this site and others eating crow.

Edit: Below

And there are plenty of screen shots of a FINISHED GOD3 and KZ2 and UC2 that look just as plain. lol Btw. All the screen shots you are seeing from CRYSIS 2 on ALL systems are Aplha...and those screen shots look better then almost ALL console games out now.

AAnd I guess these screen shots that are ALPHA look average?

http://www.videogamer.com/x...

http://www.videogamer.com/x...

http://www.ps3blog.net/wp-c...

http://images.google.ca/img... http://gamingbolt.com/wp-co... http://slumz.boxden.com/f13...

All Crysis 2 pics and video are still Alpha.....

[sayonara89]

This shots? http://img146.imageshack.us...
http://img214.imageshack.us...

Game looks very average on them.

[n4gno]

Lol@hoops donkey, being sarcastic about reality (= ps3 exclusives superiors to anything else : even xbox fanboyz know it) based on screenshots of a game, superior on ps3 (but under killzone graphic level, as everyone can see on screenshots)

[Ju]

I think these shots look good, too (underrated):

http://www.psu.com/media/re...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

(didn't find a better one for this here).

...

And I am pretty sure I played through both of those scenes... most underrated game in all those comparisions.

[jalen247]

In this video demonstration of the PS3 version of Cry Engine 3, Cevat Yerli said that usually the PS3 version of multiplatform engines (PC, PS3, 360) would perform the worst because it had the weaker graphics card in the traditional sense of creating games.

But he then said that no other multiplatform developers are doing what they are able to accomplish on the PS3. He said that usually the PS3 would be the lowest denominator for a lot of people but with Cry Engine 3, "the PS3 is performing at the top level"!

Key words here are "PS3 IS PERFORMING AT THE TOP LEVEL"

See video below where he says this while demonstrating the PS3 version (the comment I am refering to starts around the 8 min 30 sec mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

People should have known this because Crytek is consistently talking about the PS3 version whenever they talk about console versions.

[VanDamme]

I really hope they FINALLY do the Final Fantasy VII remake, now that they can use the new Crytek engine for it.

[xg-ei8ht]

Hoops there were good parts of crysis.

Weapons were nice, destruction was nice, nano suit is overpowered, if you can call it that, and yes i beat both games at hardest levels.

The game was good, but it didn't have amazing moments. I've had more amazing moments in BF2. ffs.

UC2,KZ2,GOW3, All have amazing moments which are very enjoyable.

That's what set's them apart.

Cryengine should fit perfectly with PS3, but i'll wait and see more of it.

I do hope the gameplay is alot better.

Running around a forest doesn't do it for me anymore.

Look at the amount of different terrain in UC2.

Did it in farcry,crysis,warhead.

And as for the exclusives argument, most multiplats don't use the spu's properly, and some didn't even use any. ORANGEBOX,FEAR,GB, only used the main cpu, 1 core.

Try running todays games on 1 core. You'll cry.

[VanDamme]

I'm sure Valve had good reasons to only use 1 core... They probably just wanted to show off their incredible and efficient programming skills.

Valve is known for three things: being progressive, very tolerable of different architectures other than i386, and just generally nice guys.

[hoops]

Here is the issue. Not you, you are level headed by the posts I have seen you post on this site. But MANY others have stated time nd again no multi-platform game can look better then a PS3 exclusive game...also no XBOX360 GAME IN ANY INCARNATION can look as good or better then a PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAME.
First off, CRYSIS 2 is slowly proving them wrong...at least based on these ALPHA screen shots. If this game ends up looking better then it already is when its FINISHED with destruction, then oh yes it will be the best looking and technical game on ANY console system until something else comes out.

EDIT:

I was actually refering to xg-ei8ht :P lol.
However your posts are also level headed. I find too many on this site are 12 year old children giving reach arounds to the system they love.

[VanDamme]

Thanks for the kind words and noticing my level-headiness.

[n4gno]

"hoops" never read reviews apparently :)

every good (7/10 scores )console fps is better than crysis 1.

[romancer]

The headline of this article oversimplifies what the article actually states.

The article uses the phrase "slightly more performance": the headline changes the wording to
"performs better than 360 version" (and puts the wording in quotes, which is inaccurate.)

The article goes on to qualify and downplay every single attempt to magnify the differences between
the two console versions of the game.

At no point in the article is even the phrase "slightly more performance" detailed or explained.
Doesn't sound like anything to get over-heated about.

I own both consoles and have no axe to grind.

[n4gno]

"Crysis 2 PS3 'performs better than 360 version"

it's just the way it always should be, ps3 has superior hardware, superior graphics, multiplatforms should never be identical.

[Kluv]

Big time pc developers saying the ps3 wasn't hard to develop for. Now what's youre excuse gabe?

[artsaber]

Word on the street is that Microsoft provides free Twinkies during game development. Sony does not, therefore it IS harder on Gabe.

[Heartnet]

It is only surprising because the majority of all Multi Plat games are worse on ps3 since they are developed for the xbox 360 first then ported over.

howver this is changing though as developers are starting to develop on the ps3 with the 360 specs in mind then port it over to 360. Square Enix and kojima are doing this now i suspect.

the screenshots although were from GDC 2010 were crap but they shudnt be showing footage that bad to begin with. I also wont be getting this game since there slagging off all the major Fps's which is just shameful of them.

[xg-ei8ht]

Np hoops. It's an act, i'm hoping for a fanboy award:)

I honestly just kid around on here.

I know both systems have excellent games etc, but before i bought the PS3, i heard so many bad mouthing it.

You have to remember, i did not own a PS2 OR xbox.

I was just a Pc gamer, i could not understand the hate towards a system that had yet to be released.

I mean Fear is a blatant example of a dev not understanding the PS3 at all and just offloading everything to the main cpu and gpu.

Hence the terrible port.

I for one am glad crytek are taking an interest in consoles.

I like seeing new stuff all the time.

Bring on the games!!!

[Dark_king]

ok what don't some of you understand about there scalable toolset.You think its going to magically make the 360 equally to the PS3.Thats just not happening the more powerful the system the more the engine will be able to do.So high end pc will still be the best looking.with decent pc and PS3 looking pretty good.and 360 and older pc rigs looking decent.And i wouldn't expect just visual differences but also physic differences maybe better environmental effects explosive effects.

[Morgue]

I don't really care about the development process of this game since I'm a console owner.

[ILLINOIS]

If Crytek was really using the PS3 power the article would of read "blank 360 we are focusing on this PS3!"

[TaylorMade]

Man, Xbox fans are so in denial regarding PS3 power that they grab any new game hype in hope that a miracle can happen and suddenly a Xbox game surpasses PS3 exclusives masterpieces in the graphics department... But you know what? That not going to happen... I can tell you right now that Crysis 2 will look AVERAGE for PS3 standards... And this is clear as water…
Why don´t you my friends just buy a PS3 and enjoy next gen in action…

[Tobes]

... because I would rather play good games.

[eddispider]

Better but without anti aliasing and so on. We will see when its released.

[JAMurida]

All I have to say about this is Crytek should just make the most out of each system. If they're going to claim that it pushes the most out of every system, than it's fact that the PC, PS3 and 360 versions aren't going to be the same. I personally support developers who want to show the true power of each system to represent their game and not just knock off the PC version to look the same on PS3, and knock off the PS3 version to look the same on 360 just to make everyone happy. I say the hell with that. If the system performs better than another, make the most of it and don't hold back.

Off topic: Has anyone seen "The Tester"? I downloaded the episodes last night and it was kinda interesting to watch.

[dkgshiz]

I personally think that game is vaporware. Ive heard one thing about it back in 2009.

[Surt]

I'm a fan boy of what exactly? I play games on both consoles and pc. Thing with me is that ALIENWARE is a measuring stick. For me at least. If your gonna call me out on something then say I have a huge bigotry against the causal game space. I'll admit to that.

Games are a hobby of mine. So it's tough to see what use to be a majority of core games, shrink. And then see a rise of..1hr games.(you play for one hour, during break) I might be an old fool, (29 yr) but I remember what pc games use to be.

[artsaber]

If Crytek says the PS3 version is better, then it is better - end of discussion. Until someone has evidence otherwise to dispute such, then we'll have to wait and see. And yes we know what happened with Ghostbusters, but since Crytek has been pissing off all console owners with their arrogance, I doubt they are saying anything for simple appeasement purposes. Play the PC version if you like, then you have nothing left to argue over. The PS3 carries the flag for excellence this console gen, that is all... and no fanboy hate can undo that. Greatness on the PS3 does not diminish accomplishments brought forth on the 360. The sooner everyone realizes this and accepts it, the sooner true gamers can move along and enjoy the blockbuster hits.

[swice]

We already know this. Many games and articles have already shown the power of the PS3 (except that Bayonetta performed better on 360). This is going to start another console war. Could we have a more productive article please?

[Hotel_Moscow]

console wars are fun

[cheetah]

This is a huge surprise. Not!

[boopis]

Lol i hear everyone keep saying that xbox 360 fanboys are claiming their hardware is better or equal..but i haven't really seen any 360 fans say that. In fact it's mostly ps3 owners who are bringing it up... and btw, you're a moron if you think killzone 2 rivals the pc's crysis. I've sure seen people say that and that's ridiculous. The first crysis looked way better than killzone 2, if you had the computer to play it right. Nevermind crysis 2 on pc..ha

[espiritu604]

For one, how do you know they invested 2-3 times the resources on the PS3 version? Do you have financial records and concrete evidence from the development team, or are you going to dig up an article from 2007 about how the PS3 was still a difficult platform to make games for to suit your blind assumption? Crytek isn't some n00b developer; they've pretty much created the best-looking PC game engine of all time, and it's just that much more impressive how they can scale it down to work on consoles with such positive results.

What's even more impressive is how a primarily PC-driven development studio has had such good luck on the PS3 on their first go-around. What's Valve's excuse, you wonder...

You're spinning so hard, I'm surprised the Earth hasn't been knocked off its axis
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DUDE THAT IS THE MOST BOOTIFUL STATEMENT EVER! You should be a lawyer!

[CrIpPeN]

Yes of course, but now we are talking about consoles.

[NateDPG]

PSTriple FTW!!!

[TheObserver]

I just hope Crysis 2 is not bastardize by the need to be multiplatform.

I don't like it when one platform hold back the potential of any game. If PS3 hold the PC version, that will suck. If the Xbox360 is held back by the PS3, that sucks. If the PS3 is hold back by the 360, lame. I just want the best product possible.

FEAR 2 is a recent game (Originally FEAR was for PC only) that sucked badly after going multiplatform. Lean removed, less environmental destruction, stupider AI, noob friendlier, lots of thing that changed for the worse in FEAR 2.

[Lanontscuz]

it's hoTTTT in here!

[ikral]

All I care is that game performs well, dont want to know about slight differences.

[MonopolyRSV]

"At least in the top 3" "best looking" games on each console he says. I give more weight to this statement than I do the storyline writer's comments.

[statfreak]

It should run better on the PS3!!

[kevmanDC]

do you think that ps3,360, will be better than PC's version? lol,,, so my radeon5970 and DX-11 can't compair to{ps3/360}two consoles that are old, outdated,lol,,,and pc version is runing on a DVD DISC. NOT BLU-ray NOT THE CELL..compare RSX-PS3 TO a 5970 x2-PC.lol. and you call XBOX 360 max-out and outdated.lol.......

[dRanzer]

@KevMan DC - Enough with this PC Comparison sh*t!!. i want see hardware before 4 years that runs killzone 2 or U2 like the PS3 does.

If you ppl Stupid enough to Compare any F***ing Game to Killzone 2,even crysis , so the PS3 has a hell of Power.

[OpiZA]

This article is well suited for N4G.

[Silber]

This Graphic-Compare "News" are always with tenthousand of views. Really sad^^

[Meryl]

lol this engine proves us ps3 fans right, we knew all along the ps3 was a beast yet bot's liked to spin the facts, anyways I am betting it will be more than a slight difference I noticed two things in the x360 demo, less draw distance and the textures did not look as nice, I wonder whether it runs in a lower resolution just like ff xiii??

[Hotel_Moscow]

360p

[clembo]

Even though the PS3's "cell" may be tricky to develop for Crytek have proved outright that their skill and standing as developers can shine through. I'm not altogether suprised, just impressed.

Also we can't neglect that the PC version will look even holier. Crysis was a great game to begin with but the graphics are second to none so it is definately worth mentioning.

[JustTheFactsMr]

"with all BUT the highest end PC's." Read it again so the next time you actually understand what I said before you respond.

And if you want to show me something equivalent to GOW3 in terms of the number of animations, PER object motion blur, depth of field effects, 7.1 audio mixing using the CPU not sound card assistance, number of polygons (characters and environments), the procedural texturing, HDR lighting on the same SCALE and is capable of doing it all in a SINGLE PC game with anything else BUT the highest end PC. Well then I'd be happy to look at it.

Good luck on your research. KZ2, UC2, GOW3 are all in the top tier of gaming. PC or not.