Fake Alert: Killzone 2 Vs Halo:Reach Polygon Article

TMC: Split-Screen jumped the gun earlier saying Killzone 2 had 72% more head polygon count than Halo:Reach. Surprising information indeed even if it's unfair to compare a complete game to another game still in development. Even more striking is the fact that they tried to compare a random NPC soldier model that it's barely seen in Halo:Reach to a main character from Killzone 2. We can't confirm or deny this information but we can at least tell you that neither can the guys at Split-Screen.com, Why? because we found out that the NPC Reach models they used for their "Article" have absolutely nothing to do with Halo:Reach.

[GreenRingOfLife]

Just like Bungie had mentioned in that article, if KZ2 had higher poly count then why does Halo Reach look better?

[kaveti6616]

Yeah.... no.

[valcor07]

you sir are blind.

[tronz]

http://62.149.5.84.nyud.net...
http://www.bungie.net/image...

http://62.149.5.84.nyud.net...
http://62.149.5.84.nyud.net...

I believe you. Looks like people are falsely reporting even adding links as proof of this being a duplicate story that don't even lead to anything.

[PirateThom]

Posting a publicity shot of Reach (1080p, massive anti-aliasing), bullshot essentially, doesn't really make your case strong.

[Saaking]

You know what the saddest part is? By the time Halo Reach comes out, KZ2 will be nearly TWO years old. Even if Reach does look as good as KZ2 (which it will definitely not), KZ3 will probably be released within a few months so really, what's the point of this comparison? lmao.

[Bungie]

i already said it's fake, fanboys just don't want to accept the truth and they never will

Reach is a monster and in a league of it's own

[-MD-]

Lol Joy that's too funny.

I never look at those so I appreciate it whenever someone posts it for comedic value.

[SilentNegotiator]

Oh for-
ANOTHER one of N4PS3G's blogs gets approved.

You should make a 32x16 comparison of the two games like your FF13 video, N4PS3G. Troll's other submission: http://n4g.com/NewsCom-4810...

[Typical-Guy]

Miss Bungie, who said Halo Reach looks better than KZ2?!

X360 fanboys giving me disagrees because of a question they can't answer sweeeeeeeeeeet :)

Don't be in shock if you realized it's not even a native HD. But wait Gears 2 , best xbox looking game, didn't reach KZ2 and now you're saying the SD franchise Halo is going to be better than KZ2 Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahhhhaaaaa Joke of the Year

[tronz]

Bungie GOT 210 disagrees in the link Jokesonyou posted.

http://i45.tinypic.com/29vy...

http://i48.tinypic.com/a1tt...

Looks like PS3 fans are making excuses again.

[SilentNegotiator]

It is with great honor that I eat JOY's and Bungie's last bubbles. Say hi to obscurity again, gentlemen.

OM NOM NOM

[Foliage]

Halo 3 wasn't even High Definition. Don't be too quick to think this isn't the case.

Any self respecting developer who asks a possible new employer to make a model to test their skills, always do so with a poly count similar to the one used in their projects.

Bungie can lie all they want, but until they show the world more than just bullshots, I'm not willing to think the developer that released the lowest resolution game of this generation is capable of matching Killzone 2. Even if it did, Uncharted 2 raised the bar again, and God of War 3 just raised it even further. The Playstation 3 results are currently 2 years ahead of anything the 360 is possible of releasing at this time. Which says a lot for a console that had a year head start.

I see Microsoft going casual with Natal, or releasing the next xbox very soon. They have to exit this generation in defeat and regroup.

And where did this blog come from? Why does anyone believe these random nobodies? Oh I remember, every negative article about the 360 has to be countered with any random article an xboy can find. Here it is, right on time. HAHAHA

DVD: Play Behind

[damnightmare]

I still wonder why Bungie has to talk to himself lol

Most often or not he doesn't reply to anyone else

Oh well, at least he's making Reach look great.

Edit: 2 disagrees, cmon Bungie and GreenRing, reply :)

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Foilage, why waste your time trying to dethrone Halo? There is nothing that your favorite game can do to best let alone equal what Reach will bring this Fall...give it up.

[TrailerParkSupervisr]

Who gives a rip?

KZ2 was a great game. Halo is obviously a great game. People really sit here and count polygons or even better yet spend time to argue with other avatars about who has more? Get a job like me! I am Sunnyvale's Trailer Park Supervisor and almost won Trailer Park Supervisor of the Year!

Know what I'm saaaaaaayin?

[GreenRingOfLife]

I give http://patrishka.files.word... to mr. lahey

[Foliage]

Probably not in sales... but I don't play sales I play games. When you consider the quality of the Halo franchise (I've played them all, freaking god-awful. I oddly enough enjoyed the 2nd one the most.), and compare it to the rest of the industry. It doesn't crack any lists of any notable mention.

I just think you guys are getting your hopes up. Every time Halo releases they sell it on the power of the name, which is very popular amongst kids. They surround their ads with completely pre-rendered footage, and actually pretend like it's in-game. It has happened with every Halo. Gears of War had this problem also... well basically every Microsoft title. Unlike Killzone 2, they never live up to their bullshots. Gears 1 was a great game, graphics-wise it was just a regular Unreal game. Heck, Unreal 3 looked better. Gears 2 was wretched. Just don't get your hopes up kids. Although Bill Gates can drop a turd into a box, grab a marker and write Halo on the side of it, and you people would kill each other for it.

... but really, do you want to base quality on sales? If you do you are basically telling everyone that a handful of Wii titles have been the greatest games of this generation... yeah, sales are for meetings. Games are for gamers. Since Microsoft has any game worth any mention spread so far apart, this game will surely do well. The Playstation 3 on the other hand is loaded with quality titles.

...but really, watch that latest God of War 3 footage, and with a straight face try to pretend like the 360 is capable of anything like that. It just isn't possible.

[shadow2797]

I wouldn't be surprised if Reach's character models look better than Killzone 2's. Reach does have some impressive character models. BUT Killzone 2's character models are easily it's weakest department. I'll probably get a lot of disagrees (from both sides), but that's how I see it.

The big differences I notice between Killzone 2 and Reach are:
Lighting
Gun models
Textures
Atmosphere (Particle effects)
Environments

Killzone 2 is the better looking game to me. And before anyone says it, I know Reach is more open and Killzone 2 is a "corridor shooter". And "teh color" (which apparently matters in FPS games, but not TPS...). Thing is, I think Killzone 2 still looks much better. Reach looks good, just not as good, in my opinion.

PS. Why in the world are people ignoring SC: Conviction when it comes to graphics? It looks way better than Alan Wake, imo.

[bpac123456789]

I did a in depth comparison of killzone 2 and reach a little while ago on system wars. Here it is:

http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

I posted this in another story but I don't think anyone really saw it since I came into the article real late.

[Foliage]

@Shadow

You pretty much are bang on. Killzone 2's character models was their weakest department, but they are still impressive. It just goes to show everyone how strong Killzone 2 is as a title, when it's weakest assets are what 360 developers are still attempting to live up to.

Killzone 2 was released a year ago. Halo Reach isn't coming out for some time. Now consider the year head start. You have to come to conclusion that the 360 is still 2 years behind the offerings of the PS3. Uncharted 2 and now God of War 3, and then The Last guardian are titles that Halo will have to attempt to reach 2 titles from now.

And again, people need to stop comparing bullshots of an up-coming game. With images of a game released a year ago. It's pretty sad. At least use some in-game footage at the minimum.

[nix]

q:

[rroded]

no jus no

lol still hopefull on the final game but i doubt its going to come close to what the ps3 can put out. Really all we can hope its as fun as h3...

[tronz]

Halo Reach won't make it to Alan Wake and Metro 2033 level of graphics but it will certainly be on par or beat what PS3 has offered. The reason for this is because Halo Reach is doing much more than anything on PS3 and most 360 games. The raw power of this technical feat we call Halo Reach is substantial. Graphics can be seen as a poor way of gaging a console's power because what Halo will be doing is beyond graphics.

Reach supporting battles packing 40 AI characters with 20 vehicles, 4 player co-op and 20 to 40 dynamic lights at one time in massive battles isn't something that can be compared to graphics.

[pixelsword]

That makes total sense; if you don't have the actual product in play, filmed, or in front of you, you cannot count any information derived from the findings as reliable. Spot on.

How does it not make sense when the same rule of logic is applied to the "arc test"?

We get very interesting conclusions on this site sometimes, no?

It's not the articles I have problems with, it's the logic (or lack thereof) behind some of them.

...and, all of a sudden, blogs are suddenly fine.

M'kay; that's more of a mod thing, but C'est la vie.

[Megaton]

Nice to know that when N4PS3G runs out of anti-PS3 nonsense to submit/approve, he just writes his own. Thankfully there are plenty of others just like him to gobble it up with their approvals in record time.

I thought this was a PS3 site? I keep hearing that, but reality seems to dictate otherwise...

[somerandomdude]

of course you'd know what Bungie said

[Sarcasm]

Halo Reach looks better because you're blind.

[somerandomdude]

I have to agree with you 100% like you stated GreenRingOfLife and Bungie seem to know each other / troll the ps3 section together very well.

P.S. maybe next time I will actually get two accounts like those 2 and talk to myself since it makes my arguments stronger

[vhero]

oh really we should take this blog as fact then and ignore the other article eh?? God you 360 fanboys just take what you wanna read as fact dont you?? Your idiots really.. I hate how you pick and choose what you choose to be facts with absolutely no evidence to back it up but when ps3 fanboys come up with evidence to shoot you down bungie/greenring are no where to be seen. Why havn't mods banned his IP already?

[DevastationEve]

Reach is big. KillZone 2 took 4 years to develop, while Halo 3 was released in 2007 and still pisses on other console fps games to this day.

The crown is forfeited to Halo this November. RIP KillZone 2 (2009-2010), since we know they're gonna make 3 sooner now.

[OmarJA-N4G]

@ JokesOnYou:

Ah the irony that's why you only have two bubbles...

Saaking R3 will do that first.

[JonnyBadfinger]

Nobody is actually saying Halo Reach will look better than KZ2, its just the PS3 fanboys trying to kick a unborn baby still in it mothers womb...

And honestly those who are saying KZ2 is graphical master piece are idiots, i mean sorry but come on... if your saying KZ2 is 1 of the greatest displays of the PS3s graphical power, you actually insulting your own console.

And people stop doing your own comparisons between the 2 games, because you guys always end up (as the tweens on this site would say today) "pwning" yourselves.

Video comparisons are far more accurate in comparing games, too many inconsistencies in screen comparisons. which all lead to fails.

And Halo Reach WILL look good, But unfortunately not OMGZ DATZ AWSUMZ! after all it is just another Halo game.

[SkyGamer]

The MAIN reason why sony games look good is that they limit your view and show you what they want to show you. Take gow3. You think it would look that good if you had control of the camera? There is absolutely no way it would look or run smooth having Darksiders control of view. Not for an outdated 7800gtx and a single core cpu.

Look at the sony ff games. Pre-rendered backgrounds and horrible character models. REASON why? Because you can control the character therefore you have to add in physx, lighting, etc. Summons look great because it is Full Motion Video. sony has been doing this back in the playstation days and people like you gobble it up.

When sony comes out with a game that looks like killzone 2 with colors, ai, user-controlled views and hd with 60fps, then yes I will be impressed. Til then, consoles pale into comparison to my gaming PC. A gaming PC is where all that stuff comes together. Cmon nVidia, bring on the Fermi gpu's!

[SPACEBALL 1]

why do you think that typing a huge wall of text makes you look smart? who cares which game looks better. just play the damn games.

YOUR ALL STUPID

[goflyakite]

@ JOY, "troll much".

How ironic.

[Viper7]

Amount of polygons has nothing to do with quality of the game. Its just graphics. All that I care is that game devs would rather focus on other things than adding photorealism in to their games.

Killzone2 was decent and Demon's Souls was awesome, why comparing these 2 games you might ask? Because when comparing graphics the DS is greatly overshadowed by Kz2. Same goes for Bioshock2 that has some pretty graphical effects but looks pretty much the same as the first, but the gameplay and atmosphere are superb.

who cares if Halo has less/more pixels than Killzone2? Both look more than fine enough at least for me. Now call me when these games stop running in freaking tunnels and levels stop being like unbreakable stone sculptures.

[Sonyslave3]

Damn Droids at it again man they fear the Almighty Halo Reach

[snipermk0]

I see the M$ butt lovers in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode!!!! ROFL!!!!!

[kissmeimgreek]

i dont see any butthurt bots in full damage control. I do see a bunch of frightened droids who reported this as spam or lame.

OT: Reach looks great to me. as good as i want a game to look in fact. Sure i dont expect it to look anywhere near as good as KZ2 but Halo is just so much fun and i cant wait to see what Bungies got left to show for Reach.

Hate all you want, but Halo is one of the most fun games this gen.

[God_Of_Epicness]

Gee, well, still, Halo Reach would have less polygon than KZ2 without a doubt. I mean when you look at the graphic diff. between PS3 games and 360 games, you would know what i'm talking about.

[Tito08]

But if it's Halo 3 got more polygons than Killzone 2, they won't say nothing, they'll let it keep it as it is, those morons, for the love of Halo!!!!

[TheOutsider]

After picking up GAY-LO..... http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[4point7BillionLoss]

get your teeth whitened while you count the polygons...

[TROLL EATER]

ahahaha droids got caught in the act. just shows how scared they are of reach

[Noble Spartan]

Ha PS3 Trolls Owned once again, Hope thier PS3 are even working, with a error size of RROD lol. They know Halo Reach owns crap grey graphics Killzone 2, they just can't admit it lol. So they trying to take cheap shots to convince thereself. Halo Reach will not bury PS3 lol

Pretty amusing artilce spilt screen made, comparing to a art render loool They have been owned aswell like pathetic douchbags.

[we won]

LOL

PS3 fanboys were reporting this fake and failed it. All you have to do is read it and hit the links that take you to the source.

[George Sears]

Split screen, you silly goose.

Just another reason as to why these dumb comparison sites fail.

[Elven6]

Comparison sites that know what they're doing are kinda cool, those trying to jump on the bandwagon, not so much. I don't know what Split Screen does so I can't comment on them specifically.

[Rush]

"At least it explains why the xboys Microshaft Defence Farce have been continuously spinning for years."

Open Zone is that way------->

And by the way good visuals is a matter of opinion, As such saying Kill Zone 2 looks better then Halo Reach and stating so as fact makes you a complete moron. The only way to tell which is more powerful game thus which is the more power system. Which lets be honest is what this is all about nothing else is to bench mark both games.

As there is no bench mark test for both platforms which game has the better graphics is really a matter of opinion. And completely down to the Art style you prefer. Having more polygons doesn't mean your game is more powerful if your textures are crap. And your movement is terrible.

So please before you bless us all with your complete retardity again think about what your saying. Both the PS3 and 360 are hardware wise almost the same neither is much more powerful or less powerful then the other. Pretend otherwise all you like it doesn't really matter.

Anyone with any tech know-how will simply laugh in your face as you spout your garbage.

[Foliage]

Calling someone a "moron" is something that is also for the open zone, isn't it?

You might not like the truth, and you might want to push it aside, but it will always be there. You are the one that is not willing to accept it. The world doesn't care to wait for you to grow up.

I just don't like when kids talk above their heads.

"Having more polygons doesn't mean your game is more powerful if your textures are crap. And your movement is terrible. "
Having more polygons does mean your game is more powerful. In fact, if you want to test how "powerful" a game is, you benchmark in order to figure out how many polygons are acceptable on-screen with a proper level of performance. The fact that you don't realize that makes your entire nonsensical rant completely useless.

And movement has nothing to do with how powerful a game is, it's a design decision that is tweaked with one line of code. Again, what the heck are you talking about? Pick up a book kid.

And the Killzone 2 textures were pretty incredible. Their lighting system is what every developer attempts to live up to even to this day. And with the limited DVD format, and high level of compression. Any large textures in Halo Reach would be a waste. Having textures comparable to those in Killzone 2 will basically mean they have to cut a corner somewhere else in Reach.

------------> Open Zone is that way. It might be more to your "level" so you can keep up.

[bpac123456789]

@ Foliage

Take a look at this:
http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

It's a comparison of Reach and Killzone 2 i did a little while ago on system wars. I think that you'll see that Killzone 2 is clearly superior in most aspects.

p.s: my bad for the duplicate post

[Foliage]

Killzone 2 is the clear winner, a game that is now a year-old. The budget was immense, but luckily they will carry the technology ahead to future projects. The technology is being spread to other developers as well. That's the beauty of having so many developers under your belt like Sony, any money you invest in a project aids more than just that project.

I'll give your article a read tomorrow. It's late here.

[Rush]

Thanks for wasting 2 more minutes of my life, I figured I would give you the benefit of a second chance and take you seriously once more. I guess I am still a little childish at heart thinking anything a complete husk like yourself could type something worth reading.

But nope I wasted my time again yet more opinion stated as fact. About the only thing you wasn't opinion was the limits imposed by DVD's.

And I would go into how DVD's can be read faster then BluRay's thus goes some way to solving that problem. But trying to reason with you would be a waste of time on my part.

[Walrus]

Congratulations Rush, you truly make the internet what it is. And thank you, Foilage, for putting him in his place.
I especially love this quote: "Anyone with any tech know-how will simply laugh in your face as you spout your garbage." Are we now assumng that Naughty Dog and Santa Monica don't know what they're talking about? Not to be a sony droid, but more powerful machine has been proven in the past year or two, and until I see 360 come back with something that can vie for it's place, I will be convinced.

@1.3: Thank you. + bubz for having a level head.

@bungie: I honestly think that he is actually a Sony fanboy, wanting to make a bad name for the xbox fanboys at this point.

[Gue1]

Come on Rush, don't come with that BS about graphics being based on opinions. If you only take a look at Killzone 2 with your fanboy googles off you'll notice how much better the graphics are compared to Halo Reach. But Halo Reach does look nicer thanks to its art direction and rainbow bright colors but KZ2 still has like more than twice the lighting source than any other game on the market, better textures and overall shader effects (just look at the stage in the dessert or the nuclear bomb!)
Now check out on google for more facts and stop making the sore loser comment like the one above (Im not going to waste time responding because blah blah blah...§ You just got owned, now deal with it. <--- I'm typing this from my PS3 so sorry for the mistakes

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Foliage I have 2 games that look better than anything found on the PS3, Alan Wake and Metro 2033.

:)

[Biggest]

@Jason 360

No you don't. You're a liar.

[devsgreat]

damade control

[UnSelf]

you made control?!!?
great ill have a glass

[Rush]

If your going to defend Kill Zone 2 at least try to spell damage correctly.....

[Walrus]

And if your going to bash people who can't spell, Killzone is one word, buddy.

[A change in the wind]

More polygons or not, I don`t care. The only thing I trust, is my eyes, and Killzone 2 is leaps and bounds beyond anything Halo: Reach is delivering visually. Even if by some miraculous chance Reach surpassed KZ2, a 2 year old game, a simple mention of God of War 3 ends the discussion.

[Ps_alm3k]

it still won't REACH! Killzone 2 Polygon at all.
Why not just take the defeat now, right?

[Dance]

Watch Reach smash this game in reviews and sales

[Gue1]

But Dance... Here we are talking about graphics, not sales and hype!

[Silly gameAr]

@tronz

Man I'm sorry, but those Killzone 2 pics look nothing like the game. If you played it, you would have known.

[Dance]

Lot of people here seem to be forgetting that Halo Reach will have a lot of unique character controled Ai in large open areas with plenty of on screen action

[ClownBelt]

Oh like KZ 2, yet the graphics can't even compete against KZ1? Lol

Also, Lol @ how this random blog got approve, and they say PS3 fanboys holds this site.

@below
And so is yours. Water don't have substance, so does your words.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

clown belt...your name befits you...

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Your grammar is the reason I will discontinue acknowledging you, oh, also your drivel concerning this article.

[ClownBelt]

Should you really be the one to talk about grammar? Lol seriously...

[Maciariello]

In the wise words of Ed Boon from MK Trilogy: WHOOP-SEEEEEE!

[aCHU]

HAHA it took bungie 5 FREAKING GAMES to finally get some decent visuals?? what an EPIC fail on their part..

Killzone 2 only took two games. ..

and by the time Killzone 3 releases it will have to be another 5 halo games or Gears games lol.. so so sad.
all it is is Halo 3 with darker colors AHAHAHAHA..

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Whats sad is, you actually believe what you say.

[NnT3291]

It took Killzone a generation to look better than Halo ce

[megacheak]

In fact, Halo 1 and 2 were some of the most technically advanced games in the past generation ...
With regard to this comparison, I wrote the following http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[Dance]

@ClownBelt: Which is bloody strange since this site population is mostly made up of Sony Defence force members such as yourself

[ClownBelt]

Haha. Really? Go look at any FF news, and check my post.

How would it be strange when we just got 20+ articles a while ago about "TEH Ps3 iS TEH DOOOM" article? About the same news from different blog site getting approve? Spin more. Lol

[stonecold1]

gt 50 times bigger than halo gears forza all combined get over it if your going play sales

[ClownBelt]

Damage Control FTW!

Making a nameless blog and making story up? I mean come on. How desperate can you bots get? haha

I know you haven't taste any exclusive this year, but seriously lol....

[Biggest]

What I enjoy is the people coming to this thread saying "See! Told you it looked great!" after saying, in a very mature and learned nature how graphics don't matter. Halo is great because of the gameplay. But now they're back in the graphics game! Remember guys. It's not called Xbox 180. You'll be back to gameplay before long.

[maniacf40]

bots attacking Killzone 2 = FAIL!!!
bots in general = FAIL of epic proportions!!!

[A change in the wind]

They simply have nothing to attack anymore. They literally have nothing. They are scraping the very bottom of the barrel at this point. It`s so telling when their strongest argument against the PS3 is "Killzone is a corridor shooter." Man, it`s just getting worse and worse for them.

[Silly gameAr]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's beta gameplay,.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's the final build.

This is Halo Reach gameplay.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The Killzone 2 beta looks better than this. Now tell me which looks better.

I could give a damn about graphics, but this article is just a straight up LIE.

[Biggest]

I am lost. I keep hearing about a sandbox. That video I saw showed completely restricted areas. Complete with fences. I didn't see 40 blades of grass, let alone 40 people. I know that isn't the final build. Can someone please direct me to the nearest video showing the sandbox. Or at the very least show me the developer comments that lead everyone to say that there is a sandbox. Thank you kindly.

[megacheak]

Biggest - "Can someone please direct me to the nearest video showing the sandbox. Or at the very least show me the developer comments that lead everyone to say that there is a sandbox. Thank you kindly."

ViDoc from developers:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And little analysis:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

P.S.
Oh, how interesting! I get the "Disagree" for the fact that I gave links to the video, which was asked in a previous post.

[stonecold1]

halo look like an atari 2600 game

[Richdad]

I saw sliced head.

[TehSuperCell]

I dont understand how Reach has lesser polygons but looks better.
This is a mystery I cannot unravel.

[iFLOWLIKEWATER]

Oh my God, where did you get that avi? Thats golden!

[TehSuperCell]

Um I unlocked all treasures in UC2.

[ClownBelt]

Your avi speaks for yourself.

[Biggest]

So THAT'S how you unlock Doughnut Drake. Really? You couldn't trouble yourself to Google it? Just had to make something up?

[TehSuperCell]

Lol chill bro.
I indeed locked all treasures.
Nextgen filter, mirror image, francis drake, i got em all....
It wasnt hard at all, and I was playing on hard.

Are you jelous of my superior gaming skills?

[HDgamer]

It only looks better if you're mentally challenged. xbox graphics for a halo game is bah.

[unknownhero1123]

or you could have downloaded a save from gamefaqs that has all the rewards unlock-that is if you really own a ps3 in the first place.

[SDF Repellent]

The PS3 Worshippers will find something else to troll on.

Al Bundie, Saaking, Pirat Tom, you three are on all thing Microsoft related. How do you guys do it?

[tronz]

I think they're the same guy. Is it me or does it seem like a large group of PS3 fans are sitting around waiting for news to come in.

[ClownBelt]

" I think they're the same guy. Is it me or does it seem like a large group of PS3 fans are sitting around waiting for news to come in."

Huh? Like most of the posters here are 360 fans? lol

Yeah and like how there were 20+ articles about PS3 problem got approved a while ago? Right

@ Add 2.2 to the list :)))
Huh? You take this thing seriously. lol

Don't worry it doesn't stress me at all. The fact that you guys had to make a blog and fabricate a story is laughable. Keep reaching..haha

[Silly gameAr]

@tronz,

Well unlike you, some people have jobs. It's great making your own money. You should try it. I have to go in tomorrow to make money for a car payment, rent, and utilities.

But somehow, I still have enough doe left for PS3, 360, and Wii games that I want.

Making your OWN money is great.

[tronz]

Add 2.2 to the list :)))

If Halo stresses you out this bad you should try to stay away from Halo news. Those Killzone 2 heads look like conceptual models for the game not what is in the game. I know because I have played it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Caught in the act :D that site lost 100% credibility and now goes down in the hall of shame.

B-b-b-busted!!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

LOL droids got caught

[Mo0eY]

From: themindchannel.blogspot.com
Keyword: Blog
Definition: http://wordnetweb.princeton...

You have gained -5 intelligence for your comment.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

^^^ hey dumbass you do know Split-Screen is a blog... right?

[Deadman64]

hey guys ill post on my blog my version of the polygon countz. Then ill submit it as news on here

[Ninji]

Just another butthurt blog site that bots rush to approve so they can feel better about their inferior graphics.

[chrisulloa]

Implying Splitscreen isn't a shltty blog.

[Enjoi915111]

GG isnt even making any more K2 maps.....bungie is still making maps for halo 3

in my eyes

Bungie > kz2

halo > kz2

all k2 had was graphics other wise is was a average shooter with meh online....good SP though...im sure k3 will be sick...its all about gameplay ....graphics are all good these days anyways unless you want to nitpick

ooo well

ps360 FTW

everyone else ... X

[HDgamer]

This is a funny blog with no credible source. 360 fanboys can't dethrone the King of FPS, Killzone 2. It does everything that halo 2.3 and halo reach around doesn't. It's called fun, not pre-rendered cgi and multiplats.

[TehSuperCell]

I believe Half-Life 2 is the king of all FPSs.
Crysis comes second.
Halo 2 is third due to fun factor.

Lol @ prerendered cgi and multiplats.
"bawwwwwww ps3 mine mine all mine"
lol k bro. enjoy your superior console. :)
im sure it could play crysis on high settings.

[Enjoi915111]

huh....lol halo goes way more in depth than K2 besides graphics...halo has a unstoppable online always has and always will. just deal.

K2 was amazing but its no king of FPS...even MAGs online is far more superior and fun than kz2..and its graphics suck

halo is still king of fps though....sry just like gt5 will be better than forza....you get some you lose some....

EDIT take that back....counter-stike wins.....then halo

[Another One]

Hahahaha you said Halo wasn't fun. Wait..you aren't joking? Holy hell. i think a hell of a lot of people would disagree. You know, those hundreds of thousands of people that are playing it online at any given time. Are there that many people still playing Killzone? I don't think there are. Feel free to correct me though.

Sorry, a couple things KZ2 will never beat Halo in is fun factor and longevity of it's multiplayer.

[DelbertGrady]

So, Killzone 2 does everything yet no one wants to play it?

[DeathMetal]

cause you all compare KZ2 to crysis which is still a joke. Reading comments about Ps3 games on this site is like smoking crack you no you shouldn't but once you do you can't stop LOL

[Dark_king]

Most of you do know that the PS3 can push more polys right not my opinion but a fact.So why would anyone actually think this game would have anywhere near as many polys as K2 does.And just to let people know more polys doesn't mean better graphics.

[Another One]

Oh how I love that Split-Screen got caught. They should have done something very simple to avoid posting such a blatantly false article; just look at the top of the website they linked to with the supposed Reach character model. It clearly says it was an art test. Great reporting Split-Screen!

If Split-Screen can post bull like they did then I'm glad this blog was allowed to point out their huge mistake.

[TheBand1t]

I don't think I'll ever get the enjoyment some people get out of proclaiming which games have extra polys, whether they be PlayStation or 360 fanboy.

[DelbertGrady]

Graphics is the only thing Killzone 2 has going for it. No wonder they try to use that as an argument for it to be a better game than Halo. It works until you actually play it, I guess.

[bjornbear]

KZ2 has a factor Halo 3 has too, its called "FUN"

the difference is, Halo 3 was MARKETED better. Good job, bravo, great marketing *pats bald head*

but don't deny both games are fun, because that means this stops being about gaming, and becomes about ego

KZ2 is fun, I love it, and millions do too

Halo is fun, I don't love it, but i know it is TO OTHER PEOPLE, and thats all that i need to know

now yes, KZ2 has graphics going for it, just like Halo has its multiplayer, epic story and , lets face it, marketing team

but so what? there had to be a game to raise the bar graphically, and it sure hasn't been anything on the 360 in the past year, so are you going to use that AGAINST KZ2? it having good graphics?

discarding everything ELSE that made it one of the top games of 2009 and one of the most iconic FPS's of this current gen?

well if you are, then do so =) doesn't stop it from being freaking awesome and DAMN hard on Hard mode

[Convas]

Bjornbear, you're normally one of the more sane gamers on this site, but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Did you seriously just say that Killzone is more fun than Halo? Really? REALLY?

Me and my PS3 buddies have played the living hell out of Killzone 2 and Halo 3. Both are fun. But Killzone 2 will not be remembered for being FUN, it will be remembered for being immersive and a graphical benchmark. But that's it.

Tell me, have you ever played Grifball? Infection? Have you ever built your own map, then made your own Custom gametype and had a full 16 player game of mayhem? Now, what've you done in Killzone 2. The Multiplayer resembles objective based missions. Assassination, Search & Retrieve, Search & Destroy, Bodycount and Capture & Hold.

There's no room for user inspired mayhem. It's to the books Multiplayer. Now mind you, nothings wrong with that, but you can't tell me that KZ2 can weigh more on the fun scale than Halo. But, then again, my opinion is not your opinion.

[DanCrabtree]

I think its a solid point that KZ2 has better graphics than a ton of other games, especially those on a system without blu-ray capabilities, but is it really something that's worth talking about? Yes, Reach isn't out, and the character they used wasn't "related" to the game. But who cares really? There are sooooo many more elements to a game than just graphics, that while it may be really sweet to see a game like KZ2 that is just beautiful beyond belief and sets a new standard for graphics in gaming, can't we also enjoy games that don't redefine that barrier but excel in other ways? Granted, we don't know how Reach will be, but maybe reserve the verdict before the jury's even gotten the testimony.

[GenerationWinner]

There is so much fear these days on the fony camp its makin them do nutty things like come out with an article like this.

TRUE: lol never. Halo:Reach will own anything that comes out in terms of sales we allready know that. in terms of graphics it will own anything on ps3 including god of war. But the biggest and most awsome graphics that will be ssen on any console this year will be something else and not halo:reach. Ermm no neither it will be ps3 it will be on xbox and exclusive.

[stonecold1]

rip xbox 60 million sold way bigger than halo what 10 million sold you might as well throw in gears of war 2 5 million and flopz 1 million 17 milliomn and 1 ps3 series already dwarfs the all those 360 games

[A change in the wind]

Oooof. That`s some serious denial.

[ironmonkey]

reach looks just like halo 3 whats wrong with that?

[PimpHandHappy]

Has Master Chief EVER taken off his helmet :-)
must be easy to design that FACE SHOT

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Anybody with any intelligence knew that fanboy article was fake. Just a clear case of a sony fanboy jealous of Halo Reach beating Killzone 2 in every way. That website is a known sony fanboy site. Just pathetic that they have to straight up lie. Emparrassing sony fanboys.

[Spezzational]

I find this funny. You guys are aware that by the time Reach comes out that Killzone 2 will be over a year and a half old and Halo Reach is clawing tooth and nail to be superior. I won't be surprised if Halo Reach is graphically superior but no one in their right minds could say it's far superior. In the end Halo Reach will sell more copies then most likely any other games this year and it'll be a win for the fanboys. In my opinion, I've played some Halo 3 online and it's really not fun for me I guess I'm weird for not liking jumping left and right like a fairy while unloading full clips into someone and they not die. Killzone 2 online is no better I played that for all of 2 matches and was bored of it. I prefer the realistic action of BattleField bad company 2.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

"...while unloading full clips into someone and they not die."

LMAO! If you can't kill somebody while unloading full clips than you just plain suck.

[xaviertooth]

here is halo reach owning killzone 2 you pesky droids!

halo reach: http://img228.imageshack.us...
killzone 2: http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

[kevinx1000]

http://www.bungie.net/image...

you mixed up the links. (pre-alpha right there)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Ohhhhh Snap!

[Convas]

You seem to have chronic foot-in-mouth disease. You should go get that check out. Simpleton.

[OmarJA-N4G]

DAMAGE CONTROL ALERT!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Seems the only damage control here are the PS3 fanboys defending what has now been proven a lie.

[Convas]

Jason is right for a change, you guys are the ones covering your asses.

[Uncle Rico]

Hmm a blog calling out...another crappy blog ... on its fake news.... good stuff!!!

[4point7BillionLoss]

at news4PS3bloggers

that and teertht whitening adverts for all the smelly droids ...

[Colonel-Killzone]

DID i seriously see someone say metro looks better then anything the ps3 has to offer lmfao. Metro i can say is a great looking game but if you look closely the character models are not that great i could say god of war 3 looks way better then metro i think some of you need to do the comparison of god of war 3 graphics vs god of war 2 cgi graphics and you would see how much it owns. As for this killzone 2 graphics vs halo reach are you serious the art direction is so much different no even funny lol. Killzone 2 environment is about war chaos rubble and etc being destroyed. Halo environments looks more peaceful in terms of you see trees meadows etc in it. You can't possibly compare a game which has a more a closed urban environment to it while comparing it to halo which is more of a nature scene in the background of its then a more like city like theme.

[Colonel-Killzone]

Sad so much anti killzone hate lol wow its hilarious. I guess run and gun shooters are the way to go. Run and gun ----> realistic shooters (sarcasm) And the shots of killzone 2 don't even look like the gameplay why because i played it and its looks way better then those screen shots ^_^

[baodeus]

I seriously don't know how Halo reach look (it does seem to look better than halo 3 at least). We can wait and see. And if people playing halo for it graphics, it probably won't be the most play game even till today. Again it is not about graphics.

Now let analyze KZ2 graphics. It has lots of particle affect, pretty good animation, motion blur and best looking gun model. However, if you look close, u see developers use a lot of tricks to make it look good. They actually only focus on certain things like motion blur, and the gun model. Here is my analysis on a vid of KZ2 on youtbue( http://www.youtube.com/watc... I don't have capture software to get it directly from PS3, but this will do.

1. KZ2 doesn't have realistic wind (many claim this to be the crazy physic in KZ2, but it is?)

Just look at 0:28,1:20,2:08 for example, if the wind is dynamic and real, shouldn't the smoke from explosion be blowing as the same speed as the dust? It doesn't. Look at 3:24 - 4:09, the pieces of cloth blowing in the opposite direction of the wind/dust LOL. It really serve as a visual thing, but have no impact on the game play. The grenade affect by the wind is pre-set (like how CoD4 bullet trajectory bended)

2. The AI isn't great either. Look at 3:24 - 3:41, it seems like the Helgast just kept going into the same spot, pop out the same way just to get shot. Is that a sign of smart AI, you decide. The animation make them look good, but they aren't smart.

3. Beside the gun and AI model, the environment texture is pretty bland: Look at 4:36, 4:53, 5:47 compare to these RE5: 2:31,3:02,5:13 ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... The character model, wall, vases, everything have lots of texture and realistic detail, even during close up view.

The lighting is much more dynamic in RE5 in comparing to KZ2. Light actually radiate out from every single light sources and it doesn't look like a a blob of painted white circle (4:36 - 5:47) like in KZ2. There are a lot of these in KZ2 actually. GG focus most light sources on rockets or the Helgast which most people pay attention to. Furthermore, KZ2 have lots of drawn in shadow. Look at the shadow on the door at 0:03 cast by the metal pillars from outside. However, no shadow was shown from the Helgast that stood right in front of the door or those that are running right out side. The shadow is painted on the door, not real shadow from a light source.

Other RE5 gameplay:
a. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
b. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
c. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The thing is when u play, u may not notice these things. Many developers use trick to make game look impressive. There is nothing wrong with it. They succeed if it look impressive while u play the game.

Not saying KZ2 doesn't look good, but it isn't the best graphic out there. Gear of War 2 isn't the best looking game on x360 either. I still think RE5 look much better than any other games out there and it is a multiplatform. It down fall is the bad animation from zombies like villagers, but boss animation is one of the most fluid CGI like animation that i have seen. Everything else is pretty spot on.

How come u guys ignore RE5 when it graphic is ahead of KZ2. Even better than UC2 in certain areas (realistic texture and lighting). The only thing PS3 fanboys always brought up is Gear 2 as bench mark for X360 graphics, which doesn't hold a candle to RE5. Unreal engine isn't the best one out there guys.

If you would disagree with my take on KZ2 graphics, then point out why? Cause when i play KZ2, although i did think it looks pretty good, I can also see its flaws (lots of it). I know what i see and i play KZ2, UC2, Gears and RE5. I just don't have the fanboy's goggles.

[ReBurn]

Do you mean to tell me that Killzone 2 isn't 72% more fun than Halo Reach after all?

Random blog posts FTL. :( Just feeding the flames.

[bjornbear]

one thing is a random blog with a random number that inadvertently starts a flame war because it consists of the words "Killzone2" , "versus" and "Halo:reach"

PS3 fans praised it and 360 fans got REALLY DEFENSIVE

now ANOTHER RANDOM BLOG says its fake news

and now all the 360 fans PRAISE IT and the PS3 fans DENY IT...

how about -

its all BS, lets wait for reach to come out, then compare it yourselves =)

then again, i fail to see the need for big fans to compare an up and coming game to a year and a half old game...have you no dignity?

[swice]

I still refuse to comment about the graphics until I play it on my TV, in front of me. Assholes. No one has played Reach yet. So no one knows.

[napoleon_ist]

forza has only 8 cars on screen while GT5 P is 16, and forza's 1080p is actually 1280x720(p) 921,600 pixels while GT5 P's 1080p mode is 960x1080p(p) 1,036,800...
murder by numbers. :)

[bjornbear]

with all the smoke the 360 boys are blowing I honestly HOPE it does surpass KZ2...if it doesn't i will laugh so hard =P

KZ2 will have been a year and a half old game by the time reach comes out

if reach doesn't >>> KZ2 graphically, it will be a huge joke =P so bring it on =)

i just have hope it does...for the sake of those who are putting their heads out xD

[PS360_37]

KZ2 is still the best looking FPS to date, and arguably 2nd best looking game behind UC2.If Halo is not as good as KZ2, can you really call it a joke. Can you call basketball players like Dwayne Wade and Carmello Anthony a joke because they are not as good as Lebron James or Kobe Bryant? (I'm not even a huge basketbell fan :-/)

I don't really expect Halo Reach to match KZ2 in graphics, but I absolutely expect it to beat KZ2 in EVERY other aspect. Multiplayer is a lock, but the campaign is what i am worried about.

Certain people put a little too much importance on part of the game that has little to do with how good the game is going to be. I will take great gameplay and decent graphics over great graphics and decent gameplay. That's me though.

Like you said, we can't really tell till its out.

[Tony-A]

Follow these steps:

Try to compete with Killzone 2
When finished, try to compete with MGS4
When finished, try to compete with Uncharted 2
When finished, try to compete with God of War III
When finished, try to compete with Gran Turismo 5

You know the graphical "battle" isn't near done yet, right? I'm not even sure if Reach looks as good as Killzone 2, which will be almost 2 years after it by the time it gets released.

BTW, nice blog N4PS3G. It's your own little sandbox for molding fanboy sh*t out of nothing.

[Sackdude]

So now we accept on this site blog post by some butthurted 360 fanboy over the KZ2 vs halo reach article.

N4G is getting pathetic.

[kevinx1000]

you should ask yourself why the first article was accepted.
the models they compared weren't even from Reach! (+ Reach is still in alpha stage.) i think it's obvios that's pointed out, blog post or not. the original post even came from HBO.

[Tony-A]

"(+ Reach is still in alpha stage.)"

That didn't stop people from making assumptions that Killzone 2 will never come close to the CG that was shown in E3 05.

And it didn't stop them when Sony showed new in-game footage of Killzone 2 back in E3 2007 when it was already announced to be released a year later.

[MikeTyson]

Those of you who don't even play on a HDTV have no room to talk. SD :P LMO

[MikeTyson]

Metal Gear Solid 4 still has some of the best graphics. And that's a early 08' title.

[shysun]

lol Halo will not "REACH" KZ2s level of detail!

I have both a 360 and PS3. I told people not to hype Halo3s graphics and the same with ODST! They both look like crap compared to KZ2 and while Reach will look better than the other 2 Halo 360 games, it still wont look better than Kz2. Just stop it guys, hype the gameplay if any thing.

[PS360_37]

I don't think its the 360 fanboys that are hyping the graphics...its the PS3 fanboys who are ripping on the graphics and the 360 fanboys are coming to it's defense. That's just what I see though.

I agree that KZ2 will still look better in the end, but not looking at good as the 2nd best game to date (UC2) is not going to upset me.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Even if it does people like yourself would never want to admit it. Look, you haven't even played the game yet and know for sure that it's not going to look better than KZ2. You've already made your mind up.

[PS360_37]

I have not made up my mind.

Right now I am not hopeful that it will look better than KZ2. If it does, I will say it. But can you really expect it to be better looking? I don't. So basically I won't be disappointed. I will expect every other part of Halo Reach to blow away KZ2, which in my opinion, shouldn't be that difficult.

[horndog]

FAILED yet again. These droids are no strangers to FAILURE though, they have grown used to it with the ps3.

[Tony-A]

Why does that sound so....... recent?

"Will 360 FFXIII sales increase due to PSN downtime?"
"PSN is now a dead online service"
"ApocalyPS3!!!"
"Y2K on PS3"
"PSN iz te inferior"

Here's one from our very own horndog!

"This gimped sh!t is still down??
lol, the droids are lost and confused now, they don't know what else to do but twiddle their thumbs and wait for sony to come up with another patch. lol

psn= very gimped version of LIVE."

Well.... that didn't last very long, did it?

[PrettyGamerChick]

BUT WHY HALO REACH LOOKS LIKE A WII GAME?

[Major Kanimo]

the glare from ur sweaty tits are blinding you from seening halo in all its glory

[swice]

Can't you just wait to play it on your TV? Videos online never do a game justice. You should know this as your gorgeous boobs probably don't look the same online either.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

WTF KIND OF PICTURE IS THAT? That's not even a comparison picture their. It's the same picture of a guy who's showing his dumb face and showing his dumb back head. Some people are ignorant thinking they can show who's better. I think who ever wrote this article is a jack ass.

[Convas]

But you're a total moron.

[NateDPG]

Killzone 2 looks so much better I have a no doubt it still has the upper hand. Reach has just higher poly count than KZ1 but still lower than the second.

[NotSoSilentBob]

Someone trying to compare something that is completed to anything that isn't finished shouldn't be news or worthy of being submitted here on N4G.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Love it. Leave the BS article up but fail this one as being fake.

Gotta love N4G. You can create whatever bubble you want here on N4G but thankfully the rest of the gaming public know the truth.

[devilhunterx]

Incoming damage control!!

[TrevorPhillips]

kz2 graphics are washed out and halo reach looks better now even with the character poly count