Article on what Microsoft could have up their sleeves and weighs in on the possibility of it all.
"You all know by now that Capcom & Microsoft have partnered to reveal something on the 26th. All signs it pointing to a new game. These are my predictions on what it could be in no particular order. (Please Note The Following Are Predictions And Are No Way To Be Considered Confirmed).."
Gamers have entered another golden age of fighting games much like the early 90s. With the recent releases of Mortal Kombat, SF IV, and Marvel vs Capcom 3 fighting games are on the upward swing. Developers and publishers need to take notice, this is the perfect time to release another Power Stone game, Darkstalkers 4, or the perfection cross over game featuring characters from Dead or Alive.
DOA from VF from Tekken. They all have the same mechanics and style. Basically its the characters and controls.
So a crossover of VF vs DOA vs Tekken would work. For me it was more about the Art of fighting, fatal fury, SF2. An interesting crossover weapon based fighter would be Soul calibur vs Samurai Showdown. Or the ultimate capcom vs snk which is more than kof and sf2 characters. It would be ALL the different characters that span the various capcom and snk games.
I can see having characters from darkstalkers taking on the batter from baseball stars 2 or magician lord or even ninja combat.
edit: yeah baka...Capcom and SNK had their crossovers but I'm talking about something bigger than those two. Still a Capcom vs SNK but on a grand scale.
You are right about the similarities of the DoA and VF, etc. I was thinking on the obvious of how those games could be put together. The SF vs Tekken crossover is (or was) never conceivable until now with the character style of SF4 being closer to that of the 3d models in Tekken.
I'd like to see a real "fighters mega mix". Bringing fighters from across the gaming world into one game. Kind of like the sega one but having characters that made an appearance in ANY and ALL fighting games before. Turtles, clay fighters, dinosaurs....etc.
Prob wont happen with the amount of licensed IP's they'd have to use. Not to mention who would be entrusted with the development.
It's obviously just my opinion ,but i dont think the first idea works .
While having differences that set them quite appart , they are too similar in styles .
Also with VF , mixing with either would probably be a bad idea for VF fans , given how simplified the result game would be .
For me crossovers works between fighting franchies that are more dissimilar and complement each other .
Adding doa chars to a tekken based game , is just that adding more 3d models and skins .
Of course you might reply that Capcom vs snk happened , but even then we had two 2d games that didnt have the same mechanics nor pace , and with 2 equally charismatic rosters .
DOA chars dont have the same brand appeal than tekken ones . Tekken chars are colourful and easy to remember .. while doa got replacable boobs , and more recognizable boobs like Kasumi :p
For dead or alive to be featured in any kind of crossover (an idea i dont like at all anyway , as i dont see the franchise being remotely as good as the most likely crossover candidates) , it would need to come back first with an interesting new doa main game .
I'd like to see a remake of that PSone weapon based fighting game in which you could kill someone with a single hit.... I forget the name of it, it had potential but never quite lived up to it!
I'd like to see Tekken losing the over the top combo's and ariel juggle combo's!
Soul Calibur is a great game, but needs some oomph to it!
Bushido Blade (and a rather similar game on ps3 Kengo) .
As for the absurd juggling , at least tekken tag 2 will tone it down a bit .
Here's what Harada had to say about it :
PSB: I remember Tekken 6 being a bit controversial when it first came out — with walls hits and juggles and bounds, some people were annoyed by how long combos could go on. How will you balance this juggle-heavy gameplay with the addition of a tag partner?
Harada: There are some people who say the combos are too long and that it gets out of hand. The flip-side is, if you’re the person doing the combos, it’s really entertaining and fun. But you have to look at it in a new light with Tekken Tag 2. A lot of tag combos aren’t as long as those in Tekken 6 but they’re of strategic value: they reduce your opponent’s red recovery gauge. So you may wish to play that way. Also, after the bound, you can do a “Tag Assault” where you and your partner pummel the opponent. It looks really over the top, and it does a lot of damage, but the flipside is that you lose your red recovery gauge. So there’s a strategic element to the tag juggles — the goal isn’t to just perform the longest combo possible. You really have to choose the best time and place for each combo that you use.
Oh yeah.... Bushido Blade, thanks mate!
I hope they do tone down the juggles in Tekken, it is a good game and I used to play it a lot with friends and I tended to fight quite strategically and found that to be far more enjoyable than doing ridiculous combo's and juggles!
Gamer's Guide to Life.com, Sunday 24th April 2011: In the wake of Mortal Kombat's much-anticipated release, GGTL Contributor Andrew Testerman lists five classic fighting franchises that developers need to return to our living rooms posthaste.
GGTL: "Ever since Capcom put the genre back on the map with 2009’s Street Fighter IV, the fighting game has enjoyed a small renaissance in popularity. Here at Gamer’s Guide to Life.com, we enjoy a good fighting game as much as the next guy (but are probably much worse at them), and are glad to see such a storied genre return to glory.
With the recent release of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and much-anticipated reboot of Mortal Kombat, it’s easy to imagine other franchises making a triumphant return to the EVO scene. Here are five that we want to be owned at, by a Japanese fighting savant."
The most notable reveal would perhaps by the requirements of the Xbox 360 console itself. While Microsoft has insisted since the original unveiling of Kinect at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in 2009, then known as Project NATAL, that the device would be compatible with all Xbox 360 consoles, the revelation of a dedicated port included on the newly redesigned Xbox 360 model has sparked rumours of incompatibility, which were quickly debunked.
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odd, i was led to believe it lacked an internal processor and so also needed a core to itself, if not 1-2 processing threads.
The article says nothing about whether the processor is internal or it uses the 360s.
Also, the notion of a dedicated port really lends nothing to the idea of older units being incompatible. I believe the kinect port is a custom usb port (think the original xbox controller ports) but one that will feed power and data.
Older models will require a splitter that will run off a single usb port (prob the back one) that will work for the data but not the power. That is why they keep saying it will have an external power for those systems.
As for the processor, combo of both makes sense. Using 360 cpu/gpu power to help calculate the finished product on screen along with the cpu in the kinect.
Remember people...this is not a cheap usb web cam (like the original live vision).
They say they are using 10-15% of one 360 P4 cores. I know that the Kinect we see today is a watered down version of the patented tech they bought and own. Maybe one day the " real " tech will be cost effective. It still is very impressive tech even without a super computer running it.
No, the previous artical said they removed a processor, but I would guess that it had more than 1 to start with. So it will have some form of processor still within it. Arm9 or Cortex M3, all dirt cheap now but powerful.
Does it matter? They showed Forza Kinect that looked amazing working with Kinect real time!
Are you just talking about how the graphics are able to look amazing while working with Kinect? If that's what you're talking about, ok. The game itself, though, well... I think I'll stick with the real Forza, with an Xbox 360 control pad. The limited-control Kinect Forza they showed doesn't look like it's worth any attention, in my opinion. Why would anyone want to control a car like that, with hands held out and holding onto nothing, with no control over acceleration or braking? Just seems totally pointless to me.
You guy know that the motion tech is from prime sense right? Please go to their web site primesense.com,and have a look at what they say the tech can do. It can read fingers well enough to type with each finger and can be used while sitting. No one ever said it has to scan the entire body to work. What we have seen from kinect so far is not all it is capable of.
Reading these specs and trying to compare them to PSeye is pointless, because they are different types of cameras and provide completely differnt types of info to the consoles (Kinect is a 3D camera and provides 3D images. PSeye is a 2D camera and provides 2D images). Per Primsense, the camera is capable of providing video at 60fps, but the 3D is 30fps. The specs for 2 players active is for full body scans. There are no specs given for people sitting and just using their hands.
This tech is obviously a work in progress and has yet to be fleshed out. I suggest all you N4G Kinect experts, research before you post you doom and gloom so you atleast have solid facts for you skepticism. You can also relax and see what M$ does with the tech insteat of pretending to know more that the people developing the tech.
The game was available for people to try on the show floor at E3 so yes it was real time. Wetter you like it for Forza or not wasn't my point.
That is up to the developer to figure out.
So pretty much the same spec as the PS Eye, although I thought the eye went up to 120 Hertz...
The eye goes to 60Hz i think. Regardless the eye should be capable to do any Kinect shown so far with less lag. (they revolve on a 2D axis and only use the depth tracking to separate players.) I am really disappointed by the tech and how it is utilised thus far.
More or less powerful we need to see the product.
So far it seem the pseye can do anything kinect can do.
2d 3d I not yet see the advantage.
no, the PSEye cannot do 3D tracking. Kinect can.
the PSEye does 2D motion recognition, Kinect does 3D motion tracking. they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things.
Going from alkaline to lithium was a significant step for batteries, but at the end of the day it is just a battery. PSEye and Kinect are kind of the same way. At the end of the day it is a game camera - with camera games.
@Sheikh Yerbouti: your example is not really on the same scale of difference as PSEye/Kinect.
a better example using batteries would be the jump from standard batteries to rechargable batteries. theyre both doing the same thing - being batteries - but one of them does things that the other one cannot possibly do, which is be recharged and used again. it does everything the standard battery does, and more.
Kinect does everything the PSEye does (2D motion recognition), and more (3D motion tracking). no amount of software updates can change the hardware in the PSEye, and the hardware is not capable of 3D motion tracking as it lacks infra-red.
Yes i see your point but how you guys feel about the PS3 can be said the same way.
The PS3 may produce better graphics and be more powerful then the Xbox360, but by the end of they day its still only a console. Also inferior to PC :)
... PSeye can do 3d as you say... even eyetoy... they used shadows and other stuff to recognize it.
Move is also 3d...
Lithium batteries are rechargeable batteries.
Kinect isn't a true 3D camera - it can't render a picture of your butt if you are always facing front. It makes an approximate 3D model using visual cues. The PSEye can do the same, although it will be cruder.
Plus, just because the technology is different, doesn't necessarily mean gameplay will be.
@lams12
Yes, you're right. Similarly Kinect will have some good games, different from PSEye, only if Microsoft makes them. But they haven't made games too different from the PSEye.
Which is what i meant from the start. None of the games they have shown so far could not have been on the PS Eye.
"Tracks up to 6 people, including 2 active players"
I think now its official that just 2 ppl can play at the same time.
Only room for two anyway when you think about it...
but it can keep track of six people during a game in regards to facial recognition. I think that's impressive.
I would love to have Kinect built into my laptop, so only I can get in even without a password. Why is Microsoft wasting this on the XBox again?
still couldn't play it sitting down. Honestly, some guys are so easily impressed by copy cat technology.
i was at the engadget show and kudo showed its 3d tracking and when two people where on screen......one person would be red while the other would be green.......but as soon as a third person steped into the camera view two people automatically turned gray and it couldnt read their movements well.
what i took away from that event is that the kinect is pretty kool but for right now it can only work with two people(they could still be working on it)
It could always end up being the failclusive rivaling the 30 day maps from CODMW2 lol
Natal game. (yawn)
Lost Planet 2 DLC! (yawn)
Lost planet 2 Natal support? YAWN!
It could always end up with you guys crying a little more and getting nothing ;)
If Devil May Cry 5 went exclusive...
...I'd buy a 360.
Not lying. Hold me to it.