Halo Reach - Direct Feed Screens

The first screenshots of Halo reach have been released.

[Cajun Chicken]

That ain't no regular race of Covenant...

[KingKionic]

I thought they were mutated crows for a second...rofl .

[Bungie]

now that's what i call

HARDCORE game

looks awesome

[SnuggleBandit]

what kind of direct feed screenshot is 800 by 451?

[blue7xx7]

That's what I was thinking they are probably a new type of enemy anyways they look awesome. The pics look great.

[RealityGamer]

and I'm willing to bet the gameplay is top notch like aways. Definitely a GOTY frontrunner.

[young juice]

for some reason borderlands comes to mind.

EDIT: i agree with deadreckoning666

they dont call it graphicsplay, they call it gameplay because gameplay and story are what matter most in EVERY game. graphics are just a bonus( a VERY VERY satisfying bonus).

[Christopher]

Character models and vehicles look nice and sharp with some good detail, but the rest looks pretty much like the usual Halo game. Environments are pretty meh especially. Got a feeling that there's a grain filter on those screenshots, though.

@Those complaining about people talking about graphics: It's screenshots, so that's kind of what people talk about. I hope most people won't just make that the whole game, since we're sure it will come with most if not all of the features of the previous games plus some added features.

[Bathyj]

The graphics are much better than Halo 3. Glad they finally put some effort in.

More interested in seeing how the weakest element of Halo pans out thou, the level design. I'm not talking about great levels like Halo and Silent Cartographer, more like Belly of the Beast, The Libary and all those other cookie cutter, copy and paste levels.

This could be the best Halo since part 1. (Hoping.)

[deadreckoning666]

@Chubear-

"Come on, you in your right mind think those shots look better than Bioshock or Mass Effect? Games that game out years ago and are now multiplat?"

Ummm..since when was Halo about graphics? The game so far looks perfectly FINE for a Halo game. I'm a gamer, so I'm more concerned about the gameplay. Who the hell said that Halo needs to look like UC2 or KZ2 to be an awesome game? BTW, Crysis on PC destroys every console game on the market graphically, so I don't understand why there so important to you in the first place.

Graphics. Graphics. Graphics. Why is that so big for you people? Killzone 2 by far is my favorite PS3 game this gen, but its not the graphics that keep me addicted, its the intense GAMEPLAY that requires strategy as well as alertness. Its people like you that sometimes makes me ashamed of being a PS3 owner.

@Bungie- EXACTLY. What people fail to realize is that the reason Halo is so good is because on features it destroys every fps out there. Killzone 2 has NO theater mode, no map editor, no co-op, no online co-op, no vehicles, and no save and replay feature.

@Chubear- I play KZ2 all the time, but when I go to my friends house and play Halo: ODST, the game is a BLAST. Are the graphics better than KZ2? Hell no, but the game looks great. I-DON'T-EXPECT-HALO-TO-BLOW-ME -AWAY-GRAPHICALLY. I just don't because the game play is so fun, so brutal, and so fast paced, and so perfectly tuned that it doesn't bother me.

I have different expectations for graphics on the 360 and on the PS3. The PS3 has much more powerful hardware than the 360, so for Halo to have KZ2's graphics and maintain 4 player online co-op and online matches with all those vehicles is IMPOSSIBLE. Its like your setting the game up to fail.

BTW, Infamous' graphics weren't spectacular by any means. Why don't you say anything about that? Cause the gameplay was good and the game was fun. BIASED. BIASED. BIASED.

[Bungie]

ya know the game got large scale battles with more than 40 AI at once

and it got Theater/Forge/File sharing/4 player co op etc

i don't see any other game have these feature for any shooter out there

EDIT: yeah deadreckoning666

forgot about Halo having a perfect gameplay

[Darkeyes]

How are these graphics exactly near KZ2 or UC2??? Ya it's a good leap from 3, but still I LOL at people hyping this and then downplaying GOW3 for not being 1080P... Lol... Even though these Shots aren't in native HD scale, don't expect it to even look anywhere near UC2 or GOW3 or KZ2... Sorry but thats the truth.

[cabalero]

c'mon lets be honest... the graphics aren't good as we thought... i am a x360 owner and i don't think the graphics aren't even near of a PS3 exclusive. Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, God of War 3, etc...

those screens fail to convince me...i am trying to be honest, some people could try it to...

[talltony]

Good charachter models bad everything else. Confirmed game will be good but not look that good.

[Arnon]

Here's a better question.

Why do you care?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I am with you that game play is most important and Bungie do some of the best(hit and miss with their level design). But I am expecting the game to have amazing visuals as well. The original Halo, for a console game, had graphics that were impressive. This is MS's flagship title and it's made enough money to hire the best of the best when it comes to all things that make the visuals of a game shine.

I am still going to wait for official screens to be released from Bungie. They are aces when it comes to their commmunity and you bet if there were big Reach news/screens they would be letting everyone know. Who really knows what we are looking at here.

With just these screens, it is not painting Reach in the best of lights visually.

[MegaPowa]

LOL mag LOL cod LOL kz2? I really don't want halo to be like any of that sorry.

[Saaking]

It's looking pretty nice. Definitely a vast improvement over Halo 3 and ODST. It's not uncharted or KZ2, but it still looks great. I love the fact they left out all the colorful rainbow style armor.

[lowcarb]

"Look, I'm trying to have real talk here"

Why don't we wait for some gameplay before we start screaming how the game doesn't look great graphically. Personally I love the new look and can only imagine how the final product will turn out.

edit talltony: The environments look great and very imaginative. Heck Halo 3 looks good for a 3 year old game and this looks miles better. Not sure why all the hate but this is shaping up very nice. From the sky to the stances of your fellow Spartans I'm impressed. WOW

[SixZeroFour]

those "new" covenant enemies are called skirmishers, which are kinda like the ancestors of the jackels...travel and flank in packs

this screens are just high quality screens of the game informer screens if im not mistaken...still good to see in HQ cause the leaks were pretty bad quality

[Bungie]

looks great for a pre beta footage

final game will look even better

still ...haters gonna hate

[40cal]

"it sure does seem like MS is skimping on putting some of that really good money they made from fans to represent an unpresidented Halo title."

You know that's a good point, considering the huge sales Halo is know for these games should reflect huge development budgets.

@ Bungie ^^^
The game dose look good at this point in development and yes haters will hate.

[Chubear]

I care cause I love gaming.

Sure I dig at 360fans but on this one I'm trying to be serious. It's just mindblowing how average upgrades from the likes of halo is accepted but as soon as a game comes out from Sony that takes steps to push gaming forward it's meet with vile hatred and a desperate need to kill it before it gets sequels which expand on new gaming stuff.

I just don't understand why anyone who says they love gaming and the gaming industry will blindly lets companies like Activision and MS keep pumping out seeming reharses with not much improvement and they are hailed but you see David Cage, Zipper, GG etc trying to expand gamin experiences and it's "Oh QTE meh" "128v128, is that all? meh" "Insane graphics never seen on consoles before? meh, iz about teh gameplay play"

Just ask yourself honestly, what in-house exclusive can the 360 fanbase, in the 5years the 360 has been out, saying was truly a never seen, never done before type gaming experience? Something that made the general PS3 fanbase drop their jaws in utter disbelief and not just go "uhm, that looks really good"; what?

I care cause I love gaming and if developers start feeling all they have to do is give fancy names and PR hype to games without much passion then gaming would suck for me.

Come on 360fans, be real with yourselves, don't you feel, with halo selling over 13million this gen alone, you all deserve better? with all that profit & revenue MS has gotten from you? Come on, be real.

@1.20
Damn, you guys just want to hear what you want to hear. I didn't say be like KZ2 or MAG or CoD but rather do like these games have tried to do and EVOLVE halo's gameplay already. It's the same thing from last gen over and over again.

Gosh, this just seem like a lost cause and a waste of breathe. Great, enjoy your game and have fun, I have talked enough on this matter.

[lowcarb]

I don't like the way PS3 games look so why should i want my 360 games to look like them?

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

hmph, lolz, at the ps3 gamers trying so hard.

theses are same shots from the game informer magazine.

and in that fvcking magazine it says.

"halo reach can present up to 20 to 40 dynamic lights"
http://i48.tinypic.com/15f6...

and

"We had somewhere around 20 AI at a time in halo 3. NOW our encounters with up to 40 AI, and 20 Vehicles"
http://i50.tinypic.com/25is...

20 of these
http://item.slide.com/r/1/7...

and 40 AI with lighting like that.
http://item.slide.com/r/1/5...

when you look at the big scope of you see the big picture.

it's obvious ps3 gamers are all the more welcome to have a beef with one the world's top selling franchises. though it's this kind of weak come back that makes me fall over laughing at how utterly desperate these gamers have become. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[mikeslemonade]

It certainly looks better than Halo 3 but the game still looks average. When Halo 3 came out it was an average looking game and when Halo Reach come out it will look average. Halo Reach looks a bit better than Resistance 2. Modern Warfare 2 graphics easily surpass Halo Reach so far. The 360 is maxed out and this only prooves my point.

[Skip_Bayless]

@MGSR

The thing is we expect those things. It's been 2 years. They don't do anything that makes a huge leap. Wow so they doubled this and that... PS3 games from Resistance it was 40 player then 60 player and then MAG is 256 player. And that's the amount of players not just lighting/enemies.

[otherZinc]

I agree with a lot of what you say. However, it is an illusion that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, the only thing it has is storage, nothing else. I'll explain.........

It takes a lot of power to run a co-op campaign with vehicles & aircraft, also, 4 player co-op & the game is still wide open as you can go many places without the restriction of linearity.

Where are the PS3 co-op games that look like Killzone 2 & the cartoony Uncharted 2? Borderlands is cell shaded, Flashpoint looks like ****, MW2 is a side mission, what?

Until the PS3 can show a game with as many extras as Halo 3 & Gears of War 2, SONY can shut their mouths on this "quality" ****. See, when your game isn't Linear (Uncharted 2 linear as hell) a dev cant allocate all resources to graphics.

My prediction is SONY will never make a good game with campaign co-op, they cant do it because their memory is split 256 & 256, when the 360's memory is unified.

Time will tell if I'm right, right now there are no co-op games for the PS3 in campaign that looks good at all.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Unless I remembered wrong, Halo 3's environments look better than this. Or maybe I've just been spoiled by the graphics of the PS3.

Looking at these screenshots remind me of the graphics of MAG.

[aaron5829]

but Bungie (n4g user) claimed before that "Halo Reach will look like kz2 and u2" and all that bullcrap of his...

[GUNS N SWORDS]

hmmmmm i still like reach's detail though.

[SilentNegotiator]

"what kind of direct feed screenshot is 800 by 451?"
Good question.

Let's see some 720p screens already...

[NewZealander]

well im not as impressed as i feel i should be, the levels look really bland, i hope im blown away by the final product, but these screen shots just dont do it for me.

[bpac123456789]

I mean that jokingly and seriously at the same time (if that makes sense). I don't want to rain on the halo parade, but everybody already knows halo will have great gameplay, they all do. We also know halo is loaded with plenty of features. That's all well and good, but this is Bungie's FINAL HALO!! It's been hyped for its graphics because Bungie said they would be building a new engine from the ground up. The graphics are suppose to blow you away or at least look above average. If it wasn't for the character models I would say this is one of the ugliest games I've seen in a while. It seems that the only thing the new engine achieved was more enemies/ vehicles on screen. I admit I'm no halo fan but I am a video game fan and for this to be the best Bungie can achieve visually is kind of disheartening.

Mabye I'm jumping to conclusions. This could be screenshots from a very very early build. But as it stands EVERYBODY needs to stop hyping halo visuals and focus on the gameplay and story.

Edit: The reason I wrote this post is because the comments on this page where starting to bother me. It seems like everyone on here is trying to hide what they really think. I don't mind the comments that say it looks good for a halo game. But when people start saying the graphics are "great" or "amazing" that's when someones gotta step in and put some truth into the comment section.

[ape007]

killer, wow can't wait screens look absolutely stunning

[SixZeroFour]

actually thinking about it, i want to see screens of levels near the end of the game, cause its supposed to show reach in ruins...these are apparently screens of early in the game when everything is still in tact

[bpac123456789]

for the people saying that halo looks like this because of the 4 player split screen, co-op, slightly more open enviroments, ext. Warhawk has all of this. If i remember correclty i was able to play 4 player split screen locally or online, the environments where much larger than halo's, there where more people on screen, and more vehicles. Oh and it looked just as good and in some ways better than halo reach. So it's obvious that the ps3 is capable of anything bungie is doing in halo(remember warhawk is also a 3 year old game). So please don't use the "feature" card as an exuse for halo's underperforming graphics.

[JonnyBadfinger]

YEAH MORE HALOZ!

looks like its coming along nicely, though the textures on the ground dont look like they are where they should be. Character models look great, AWESOME looking Jackals.

Im just glad i have more HaloZ to play, i dont care if the franchise is milked from here on in... if Microsoft tell me to bend over and take the 'next' halo game, i would gladly unclench.
Because its actually the first console game that made me truly love FPSs. Well actually Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64 did, but playing the first Halo gives me the same feeling today as it did when i first played it.

Heres hopeing to further polishing, and a AWESOME on par with Halo Combat Evolved game.

[Sarcasm]

Some of you folks are in denial to believe a system that has been out for 4 going on 5 years with "easy development" is going to show a vast improvement.

That said, it looks better than Halo 3, but really isn't anything to write home about.

[wicko]

Yeah, character models look great and so do some of the props, but the environment needs a lot of work. I mean there was almost no vegetation, hardly saw any patches of grass, yet there was a bunch of areas where the ground was green.. c'mon Bungie, lets add a bit of life to these environments, yeah?

[niceguywii60]

These are just grabs from the first screens from Insider already released on the web. Looks like somebody posted these grainy washed out smashed pictures taken of pages from the Magazine on purpose. I have the Magazine the game looks stunning these pics look nothing like the game.

http://img.skitch.com/20100...
http://img.skitch.com/20100...
http://img.skitch.com/20100...
http://img.skitch.com/20100...

You can see how bad this guy messed up the pics with this PIC
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

Look at the sky^ He did something to the pics either trying to get hits or to make Halo look bad. Halo Reach doesn't even have a contrast ratio like the pics in this article.

"No source is given but the images seem to have stemmed from allgamebeta.com. All images carry the EB Games logo in the bottom left but it seems that the EB Games websites doesn’t mention the images."
http://haloreachinfo.com/

Nice try SDF. Some SDF guy grabbed them horribly and changed something or altered the pics.

[ABizzel1]

@1.13

With the exception of 4 player co-op none of the things you listed have any effect on graphics. As of now the character models look very good, but everything else is only ok, but again Bungie has until July to finish this, and supposedly it's already up and running, so expect the game to look much better come launch.

[duplissi]

hey deadreackoning i hate to burst your bubble, but graphics used to be one of the things that xbox faboys used to tout all the damn time back in the day with halo being the messenger.

[tuglu_pati]

Something is wrong with this screenshots, i have the gameinformer and the game looks superb.

Gameinformer
http://img.skitch.com/20100...
http://img.skitch.com/20100...

same screens from this article
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...
http://item.slide.com/r/1/9...

The screens from this article look to bright and have a grainy look, the ones from the Magazine looks darker with much better lighting. It seems that someone played with the contrast before posting the screens.

[SaberEdge]

These aren't the best quality screenshots, but it still looks outstanding.

@wicko

You say it doesn't have enough vegetation? Well, it has a hell of a lot more vegetation that Killzone 2, so I don't know what your point is. About the most vegetation I have seen in Killzone 2 are some 6 inch plants on the ground.

I don't know what kind of filter they passed these screenshots through, but the shots in the magazine look much better than these.

[krisq]

Looks like Quake Wars.

[Zeal0t]

Just awesome! Day one!

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Truly the worst looking game of 2010.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

LOL! This is the game you xbots thought was gonna be a graphical beast? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The game looks like garbage at beast. The CG trailer at Spike's Game Awards had you nimrods excited over nothing.

[young juice]

i think everyone here has forgotten about resistance 2.

http://news.softpedia.com/i...

http://i383.photobucket.com...

http://i383.photobucket.com...

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

You have to say Halo Reach looks like Killzone 2, or your post will be deleted. There is no room for disagreement.

@starchild

"Whatever. This article is filled with PS3 fanboys attacking this game and saying it doesn't measure up to their precious Killzone 2. Open your eyes. If your comment got deleted it was for something else."

All I said was that Bungie shouldn't tout the graphics. Instead, Bungie should tout the gameplay. I don't know why mods would delete something like that. Seems like I must only say good things about Halo Reach or risk being ban. Now, that kind of modding is just too extreme.

[starchild]

Whatever. This article is filled with PS3 fanboys attacking this game and saying it doesn't measure up to their precious Killzone 2. Open your eyes. If your comment got deleted it was for something else. I have also noticed a lot of 360 fans' comments have been deleted as well.

Now, to the guy posting screenshots of Resistance 2, what exactly are you trying to prove? That Resistance 2 looks piss poor and doesn't compare to many other shooters? Halo 3, COD4MW, MW2, and Bioshock all look better than Resistance 2. Halo Reach blows it away. I don't even know why you would post those screenshots. When I played Resistance 2 some of the textures almost looked like PS2 quality textures.

[Elven6]

TotalPS3Fanboy: Please point us to where Bungie has ever said Halo: Reach would look better than any other game asides from the previous Halo titles?

[Megan Fox]

Even though some one changed the contrast of the screenshots they still look fantastic.

[NickIni]

I'm really looking forward to this, hopefully will re spark my interest in Halo, though I am kind of disappointed, as the graphics in the trailer looked amazing, and these screenshots don't, but I'm willing to put that down to bad screenshots until Bungie release some.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

"TotalPS3Fanboy: Please point us to where Bungie has ever said Halo: Reach would look better than any other game asides from the previous Halo titles?"

You're right. However, Bungie still did hype the graphics of Halo Reach with all those talks of running in 720P, 40 dynamic lights this and that, a brand new engine, and a misleading CGI trailer. And now that we have seen the screenshots that looks nothing like the trailer, 360 gamers need to stop touting the graphics of Halo Reach and instead, focus on its gameplay.

[JANF]

@ TotalPS3Fanboy

How can anyone take your opinion seriously having that name.

[Rush-Sykes]

I personally think they look awesome, Although they do seem stretched and downgraded by the author. Or maybe the pics where edited in photoshop for the magazine hard to tell I will wait for offical 720p screens before I judge.

[Pistolero]

It's funny...I think these screenshots look really awesome but of course you got the PS3 boys in here trying talk their usual crap...oh well, all I really care about is my own opinion and Reach looks amazing to me and I am sure that it will play amazing too.

[JsonHenry]

Looks like a Halo game to me..

[Rush-Sykes]

Lets be honest here even if they dressed a guy up in a Master Chief costume and recorded him in HD running across a meadow with explosions going off, they PS3 crowd would still claim KZ2 looked 10x better not point in trying to reason with them there quite set in there ways.

I can see the comments now xD

1) O my gawds! thats grass is so unrealistic look at them dried out textures.

2) Master Chief looks ok but whats with that messed up shadowing and lighting...

3) Master Chief only has 5,000,000 polygons KZ2 characters had 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 polygons!

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

This game looks great and it could be better than Uncharted 2.

See the 360 is very capable of achieving amazing graphics F all the haters and stop being fanboys.

(I am trying to act unbiased like u lot)

[Bathyj]

Man, I just went crosseyed.

[Saaking]

It looks great, but not even close to UC2 or Kz2.

[aaron5829]

sarcasm ?

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

i JUST COULDNT WAIT FOR THE BORING GAME TO BE OVER. AT LEAST HALO IS ENJOYABLE, AND ITS OBVIOUS THAT HALO IS BETER AS ABOUT 8 MILLION MORE PEOPLE CARE TO PLAY HALO THEN KILLZONE 2. pROBABLY BECAUSE kz2 IS, GENERIC, BORING, AND UNINSPIRED.

Wait till a good FPS like halo comes out, then you will see a game that people actually enjoy, unlike KZ2 which was just abunch of sony fanboys talking up a pretty, yet dull and unoriginal FPS.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Uncharted 2 looks like a PS1 game compared to this.

XBOX 4 LIFE!!!! YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

[Chubear]

... *falls off chair in roaring laughter* HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! You 360fans KILL me! XD

[InFAMOUS1]

*COUGH* Borderlands *COUGH* The environment detail is horrible.. Character detail is alright, but damnnnnn... NOT IMPRESSED

[Dutch Boogie]

LOL so this is the superior graphics bots where spreading fud about huh? looks like halo 3.5 to me mate. 360 gamers must have really low standards.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Not bad...

Almost as good as M.A.G. yet to reach Resistance 2's graphics. :D

[blitz0623]

wow look how fast this got to 500 degrees. All the bots drooling over another Halo game. yawnnnn and they say this is N4PS3G

@XGamer: typical hypocrite bot. why don't you check out PS3 news and see if there aren't any xbot posts there first before saying that?

[Arnon]

I thought "Halo 3.5" was Halo 3: ODST. :/

You guys aren't making too much sense.

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

what few gamers relies is that the halo reach characters do look better than killzone2's.

http://i48.tinypic.com/mt1g...
vs
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

close on killzone2's characters.
http://i46.tinypic.com/e6xe...

come on, i don't need to highlight it you can see the lack of detail on helghasts. just try and compare them.

again
http://i46.tinypic.com/35me...
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

.....in spite of halo's shot being a whole lot smaller you can see how much more detail halo reach's characters have.

and an other thing, halo: reach offers customizable characters.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2q9b...

....killzone doesn't, case closed.

[Trebius]

Ok, so now that Graphics dont matter (Since you know 360 cant match PS3's graphics, EVER) I guess Halo Reach is giong to have the BEST gameplay eeevvaaaaarrr!!

Too bad no one will know til the end of 2010, so you can continue playing MW2 til then :)

360 has no games.

[LEGENDARY PELON]

Screw the graphics for now, these are just low resolution screens, and im sure the game will look waayy better, just watch when a high quality gameplay video appears, its going to leave people jaw dropping!

Its sort of funny because Halo 3 screen-shots look better than this!
So its obvious the final Halo Reach game is going to look like the trailer we saw bearly but about 3-5x better!!

All i have to say to ps3 fangirls is that graphics dont make a freaking game, but thats all you fangirls care about!!!
Take a look at this!

Halo 3 is running at 640p with not really good looking graphics but its still remains the most played game on XBL for 3 years straight!! "2007,2008,2009" do graphics matter here?? NO!

Halo 3 got kick A** reviews, and tell me, did graphics earn this reviews? NO!!!

And the sales "i know play games not sales right ps3 fangirls" well let me tell you Halo 3 has over 10m sales, and were graphics involved here?? NO!

Overall, Halo has a the best multiplayer out their, great reviews, and, strong sales. To tie it up, it offers many modes of co-op both offline and online with lag free which makes the game even better! Forge and Theatre are also great! But once again, did graphics matter here? NOOOOOO!!!!!!

Halo Reach is just going to improve on all this, and the better graphics is just going to be a bonus!

Now tell me ps3 fangirls, tell me a ps3 exclusive that lives up to what i just stated about Halo 3 here?? NONE! not even your 2080p Unfarted 2 does what Halo 3 is doing here!!

Its like a car! It can have the best paint job out their which makes it look jaw dropping, but the real deal is the Engine"

[bpac123456789]

I'm going to agree with you just because your comment was so unbelievably stupid that no sane person could possibly take you seriously. And there's a saying that "when you argue with an idiot people at a distant can't tell who is who."

[nix]

i mean dude.. seriously. are you on crack or something?

[SaberEdge]

Look at those screenshots. The character models in Killzone 2 look like sh!t. The character models in Halo Reach are far better. Halo Reach also has better textures.

Killzone 2 has nice blur effects and good lighting, but it is actually pretty weak in many other areas. Shadows are pixelated and are low resolution, for example. Environments are mostly closed in and linear.

I don't care what any of the PS3 fanboys say, Halo Reach looks better than Killzone 2 overall.

[CWMR]

-Lots of PS3 trolls in here and in denial. Halo Reach looks better than Killzone 2 and it hurts you to admit it.
Seriously look at this: http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...
Halo Reach blows away Killzone 2.-

[talltony]

Heres a better one for you. YOU fail. Lol I can take a pic from crysis and make it look just as bad as that killzone 2 one.

The fact that everyone one of those reach pics looks exactly the same with flat textures must mean something, dont you think? Reach will not look better than this and I Give everyone here my word on that. You'll never admit it but we all know you are in denial.

http://kingslayer.files.wor...

[starchild]

Flat textures? Come on, man, you can do better than that. Outright lying just makes you look bad.

Take another look at those screen shots. http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...
Look at the bottom Halo Reach picture in which you can see a good portion of the ground. Now compare it with the ground textures in the top Killzone 2 screen shot. Halo Reach has much more detailed and high resolution ground textures in those shots.

The textures in all the Halo Reach shots look substantially better than the majority of textures in Killzone 2.

[Dev8 ing]

Trying to keep up with the discussion but that picture of killzone doesn't show any ground let alone ground textures. Is that what you're getting at?

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

iF THIS COMMENT SECTION DOESNT PROVE HALO REACH IS THE BIGGEST GAME THIS YEAR, PLEASE FIND ME A SONY EXCLUSIVE WHICH NEARLY AS MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.

MORE SONY FANS HATE ON HALO THEN CARE ABOUT GofW. GoW IS NOW STANDING FOR GEARS OF WAR AS THAT IS WHAT FAR MORE PEOPLE CARE TO PLAY.

[timotei]

hahaha People pay for this garbage. Give me the $60 and I'll draw you a better looking game in MS Paint

[Pistolero]

That Killzone 2 shot doesn't show any ground?....are you blind?...look to the right of the helghast and below the tank...the whole bottom right corner is ground and you can see exactly what he is saying...the ground texture is poorer quality in Killzone 2 than the in the bottom Halo Reach screenshot...look again... http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...

[divideby0]

cant judge by these screens....frigging fog and little DOF...that is evident..

[Cueil]

This is just a crappy cleanup job from the game informer scans

[LordMarius]

Go Go Power Rangers

[talltony]

As you all know I prefer the ps3 but I can admit this does look pretty good for a halo game. Though some of those pics some of the textures seem extremely flat and low Rez. Let's hope they fix that. I like the way the charachter models look though.

[SaberEdge]

I guess you haven't seen Killzone 2 http://i46.tinypic.com/e6xe... and how flat and low res most of its textures are.

Even Halo 3 had superior textures to Killzone 2.

[solidjun5]

you're so full of sh!t, it goes straight to your eyes.

[gamer2010]

What, he is right.
Killzone 2 has a few good textures, but most of them were kind of flat and lacking in detail. Halo 3 has consistently good textures for the most part.
Don't tell me though, you are one of those ps3 fanboys that only plays the ps3 and doesn't have a clue what 360 games really look like.

[talltony]

http://kingslayer.files.wor...

Lol this is fun You guys are so butthurt.

[solidjun5]

you're a buddy of Helen Keller since your eyes obviously are lacking in proper vision.

Ahh 360 butt-hurt fanboys. Flocking together like it's an orgy.

Note: I do play 360 games and you don't see sh!t on them. Take note troll boy and I mean TROLL boy.

This is you.
"Put the crack pipe down. Halo Reach looks better than God of War 3. Those last GOW3 screenshots looked meh.
"

Okay, based on what? Let me guess, you took a look at screenshots and since you're a 360 fannie, you instantly say "by the gods, this is better than anything out there!!"

[starchild]

More delusion from PS3 fantards? Why am I not surprised?

Yes, the textures in Killzone 2 are mediocre. This has been known for a long time.

Yes, God of War 3 is overrated.

No, you guys don't have good vision or a technical eye for properly analyzing game graphics.

[solidjun5]

another 360 artard comes to the orgy. Here's comes the dummy starchild.

God of War 3 overrated? why? because you're so special, everything you say is true? did you play the game?

[doctorspakles]

Not super excited yet. Halo's story just took a nosedive for me as it progressed. And I never had as much fun playing any Halo as I did playing the first. So in terms of story and gameplay they have gotten worse and worse. Hopefully this one changes all that. Some positive signs point that way. Here's hoping for the best.

[facelike]

Released the day after Sony released God of War Pics. The timing is predictable.

[deadreckoning666]

Funny, I thought the first Reach screenshots from GameInformer came out a day before the GOW3 screenshots. So actually, the GOW3 screenshots we saw a couple days ago came just after the first Reach screenshots. You can put as little or as much stock into it as you want because it doesn't mean a damn thing.

[xskipperx82]

I saw these pics weeks ago.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Except people actually care about halo.

Very few care about GoW. just look at how little GoW 2 sold on PS2 with 110+million consoles.

Its obvious GoW doesnt have very many fans, and I dont think anyone at microsoft is worried about a game that barley has any fans.

[Droid Smasha]

flawless

[deadreckoning666]

"@dead
its just funny because some bots (the most denial ones(thetruth, Siligon, pp, MGR) said it was gonna be the best lookign game out there and will beat any PS3 game in terms of graphics"

Well, I NEVER said anything like that. I don't expect Reach or ANY 360 game to reach Uncharted 2 this generation. NO WAY! Whoever, thinks otherwise is a fool. My point is that graphics are the LAST thing that should be concentrated on in game. This is why so many PS3 owners overlooked Infamous' unspectacular graphics. It was a good game.

If graphics didn't matter for Infamous, then why do they all of a sudden matter so much for Halo?

@Dutch Boogie- Show me the link where I said that Halo's graphics were goin to destroy everthg else. In fact, I want you to show me ANY link where I advocated graphics to be an HUGE part of a game. U CAN'T! Ur talking out of your ass.

Halo 3 is the 2nd most played online game on consoles despite, according to you, how outdated the graphics are. THE-MAJORITY-DOESN'T-AGREE-WIT H-YOU. The only loser here is YOU because you just commented on an article about a game you obviously have NO INTEREST IN WHATSOEVER.

I play GAMES not consoles and I could give a flying f**k if 360s maxed out cause I don't even have one.

[Chubear]

LOOK AT THAT! This is year 5 of the 360 and this is their main flagship title. The title that helped MS keep the xbox from complete annihilation and it looks no better than some random multiplatform game from 2007.

Look 360 fans, look at what Halo3 was supposed to look like and you're only now getting this in year 5 and still with low rex texturing everywhere but yet, you'll all claim this is "teh uber" with disillusioned rantings of how THAT is better than KZ2 or UC2 when it is no better than Bioshock 1 or ME1.

Bend over 360fans, MS has one more shafting surprise for you when Halo: Reach launches lol

[deadreckoning666]

"...it looks no better than some random multiplatform game from 2007."

So for you, graphics make a game???

[Dutch Boogie]

lol @ above

So now that you realize the graphics are mediocre and just halo3.5 standards you people are claiming graphics don't matter. I mean we know halo series has never been graphical masterpieces but damn, it's 5 years into the 360 lifespan and the so called flagship with "new engine" looks like a slight upgrade from halo3. I guess it's true that the 360 is fcuking maxed out. Deal with it losers.

[Obama]

The 360 has been maxed out and this pretty much proved it. No graphics doesn't make a game but then some bots were saying this game has the best graphic ever.

Any bot want to bet with me that it won't win win best graphic award this year?

[dustgavin]

Wow...talk about Power Rangers running around in low resolution back drops.

And you bots were teasing PS3 games??

http://item.slide.com/r/1/3...

[SaberEdge]

You PS3 fans are so delusional, you are beyond help.

If you can't see how great Halo Reach looks you are blind.

Look at some of the screenshots people have posted comparing Killzone 2 to Halo Reach. Halo Reach looks better in many ways.

Also, the VGA trailer is the same as what we see in the screenshots and that trailer looked stunning. Seeing it in motion it looked at least as good as Killzone 2 and to me it actually looked better.

But lets take Halo Reach out of the picture for a minute. You guys are saying nothing on the 360 can equal the best PS3 exclusives. Pure bunk. Mass Effect 2 already looks right up there with Uncharted 2. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[gamer2010]

Get your eyes checked Chubear.
Or better yet pull your head out of Sony's @ss and maybe then you will be able to see better.

[talltony]

Well thats because the combination of major denial and sh*t on your eyes prevents you from seeing the truth!

http://kingslayer.files.wor...

Eat IT!

[starchild]

You keep posting that screenshot as if you think it is impressive.
All I see are a bunch of low res textures and blur to hide it all.

[Obama]

"Mass Effect 2 already looks right up there with Uncharted 2"

LOL if this is true, don't you think all the gaming sites will be talking about this already like ME2 looks as good as UC2! The fact is that it doesn't, and this year another ps3 exclusive will win the best graphic award.

[talltony]

All you see Is low Rez textures and blur? Lol well their is a known fix for that disorder, but you need to take off your fanboy goggles and put on a new pair of unbiased ones and then your vision should be fixed. But if that still doesn't work I can always give you a good punch in the face to knock your nonsense out of you.

[Dev8 ing]

Yeah quit posting that same screen shot. Here are some better ones.

http://talkplaystation.com/...

http://playstation.joystiq....

[The EDGE]

meh... ok i guess

[Somnipotent]

I want in-game player view... not this bs... this all looks like Halo 3 still... not impressed yet.

[SixZeroFour]

wow...i want to be playing halo 3 that youve been playing if these were the types of graphics you saw while playing halo 3

[SaberEdge]

Sure, Somnipotent. Take of the fanboy goggles. This look far better than Halo 3.

[Timesplitter14]

That's way too low-res

[DJ]

But nowhere near as good as Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2.

[Immortal321]

this don't look good.

[divideby0]

those games just spoiled us in the graphics department...anything less just wont get it done for me..

[SaberEdge]

You guys are such fanboys. This definitely looks about as good as Killzone 2.

Halo Reach http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...
http://item.slide.com/r/1/5...

Killzone 2 http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

I think Halo Reach looks better in those screenshots.
I want to see some good footage of Halo Reach running, but just going by screenshots you guys are crazy to act like Halo Reach isn't at a similar graphical quality level.

[DJ]

From December 9th, 2008. The game wasn't release until February 2009. This is what the final version of the game looked like (since I've seen your slimy tactic used before).

http://selectstartgames.fil...

http://www.console-life.com...

[Immortal321]

http://selectstartgames.fil...

it's like how am I going to beat this level

then you got this....
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

the halo shot looks ok? but not as intense

if you think that halo looks better than killzone2, the word opinion is getting out of hand. Where have the all might fact go in the industry?

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

KZ2 was trash anyways, halo will be a good game.

[starchild]

"those games just spoiled us in the graphics department...anything less just wont get it done for me."

So, I guess you won't be able to enjoy about 99.9% of the PS3's games, since none of them look as good as Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. In fact, a lot of them are plain ugly. I guess you can't stand multiplatform games on the PS3 either, since they are inferior.

[2cents]

but as im sure you are aware, it wont make a difference to ANY fanboys. Im pissin myself reading some of the comments posted, its like royal rumble. I dont think Ive seen so many rattles thrown out of their prams, and enough crying to fill an ocean.

Bu bu bu... PS3, its so shiny, its... my precious.

[Immortal321]

why does it look so plain? it doesn't look intense.

maybe it's just how halo is.

[TheIneffableBob]

It's lacking contrast and the colors are drab. That's why the screens look so flat.

[edhe]

Probably because it's about 10 months away from release.

[jalen247]

Honesty, based off these direct feed screen shots, Halo Reach looks great but definitely not the best looking Xbox 360 game.

To all those people that were super hyped that Halo Reach would be in the same league with Killzone 2 graphically. Unfortunately, I have to say I told you so!

I think Halo Reach will be a better game than Halo 3 and that is what is most important anyway.

[SaberEdge]

That's because you are a blind PS3 fanboy. I bet you are one of those fanboys that thinks God of War 3 looks amazing and so much better than everything else, right?

Halo Reach looks awesome.

[ceedubya9]

The game is still in development.

[DJ]

And Microsoft claims the PS3 can only muster a third of the power of the 360. So what gives?

[starchild]

It looks better than anything on the PS3. What more do you want?

[2cents]

We are hyped for HALO! let me say it again.

HALO HALO HALO HALO HALO HALO HALO WOOOOOOO!

Does it offend you?

Is it really that hard to see other people happy?

Drop the BS, and take it like a man, the Halo series is possibly THE biggest FPS in Gaming History, Period

Doesnt take away from the fact that the PS3 is a graphical powerhouse, and is visually superior to what we have seen the competition produce. So if you sit on the sony camp, just be happy that you have better graphics, simple. No need to come into 360 threads and flex your shiny muscles in our faces, coz in the end your just gonna get pwn'ed. HALO cannot be touched!

Im happy no matter what, you know why? because I own both consoles AND play them both. Maybe you should try it sometime, trust me, you will feel more complete and less prone to fanboyism.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Darker Halo..?

Edit:

I liek, the nighttime shots. Hopefully they'll make it a bit darker though, I wanna do some stealthy action !

[edhe]

Play ODST, you can stealth the entire night sections if you want.

[The real killer]

The picture looks good to me, but compare with Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 is no match for Reach, bu we will keep in our minds that the game will be polish and look better when the game will released.

For now, this game looks goods better than Halo 3 in any case.

[Dutch Boogie]

halo 3.5 mate.

[Nikuma]

Bungie could maybe redeem themselves if they go all out on this game. Graphics looks good and are much improved from H3. Now they just need to evolve the gameplay and make it better, come up with a story that doesn't totally suck, and make multiplayer FUN! (H3 made me zzzZZzzZZz)

[I Make Xbots Cry]

640p at 30fps confirmed

Can't wait until it's out so I can lmao at it "superior" graphics rofl.

[dustgavin]

The 360 was maxed out when Gears 2 was released.

[gamer2010]

Ok sure, that's why Mass Effect 2 looks lots better than Mass Effect 1 and Halo Reach looks so much better than Halo 3 and Gears 3 will look better than Gears 2.
Epic has already been talking about some of the improvements they have made to their engine, like better lighting, and you can bet that Gears 3 will look noticeably better than Gears 2.
In 2010 with all the games I have seen the 360 is passing the PS3 by.

[Dev8 ing]

The thing with mass effect is that you can never tell whether it's being run on a PC or the 360. I mean sure they have the 360 controller but I can play Mass effect with my PS3 controller if I want.

[geth1gh]

the landscape looks exactly like anything you see in halo 3. What the hell have you been doing bungie?

Bungie just can't handle this gen of gaming it seems.

I waited in line for halo 3 and loved it. I got tired of it a few months later, and was trying to figure out why I got tired of it so much sooner than other games I have liked. I finally realized that the gameplay was almost exactly like halo 2. I mean gameplay wise, it could have just been a mod to halo 2.

I love the halo universe, bungie just make a new style shooter. A shooter with multiplayer anything like the single player in odst would be a good start.

[Timesplitter14]

I don't know if it's just me but it seems like there is a lack of motivation behind this one. It's like they just said "well.... I dunno. Let's just make another Halo".

[Karooo]

So you xbots had the nerve to compare this to gow3 or any other PS3 game?

wow suckers.

[kingdavid]

am I missing something? How do these poor resolution screenshots look bad?

[Nerd Alert]

The benchmark has been raised, they look bad to PS3 standards.

[gamer2010]

Put the crack pipe down. Halo Reach looks better than God of War 3. Those last GOW3 screenshots looked meh.

[Nerd Alert]

Here, ill lend you my glasses. Take another look.

[kingdavid]

@Nerd alert. I think its time you got your cawk out of your usb port.

[Raoh]

EBGames???????????????

[Nitrowolf2]

for a 360 game
but lol, bots this is wat suppose to beat KZ2 in graphics? Uncharted 2?
wow bots saying the 360 hasn't been maxed out ye, and yet the best looking game(supposibly) still doesn't look over all great like some bots complain it would be.

@dead
its just funny because some bots (the most denial ones(thetruth, Siligon, pp, MGR) said it was gonna be the best lookign game out there and will beat any PS3 game in terms of graphics

Edited: hey at least it looks better then Halo 3 that has to count for something?

[SaberEdge]

Man, you need to wake up and put your glasses on. This does look right up there with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2.

And I also should mention that Mass Effect 2 is significantly improved over Mass Effect 1 and is also one of the best looking games on any console. This by itself proves the 360 is not maxed out.

It seems it is absolutely vital to you guys to believe that the 360 has been maxed out. Even though all the evidence in the world points to the fact that neither the 360 or the PS3 have been maxed out and that they are very close in power, some of you guys can't admit it to yourselves. It's like you can't love your PS3 unless you convince yourself that it is the most powerful console.

[talltony]

"Man, you need to wake up and put your glasses on. This does look right up there with Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2."

Man you are the one that needs to wake up. You are the one in denial not us! How do you sleep at night?

[Major_Tom]

Saber I can't tell if you're trolling or being an idiot cuz the graphics are terrible compared to UC2 and KZ2.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Half of me says: Those are crappy low res screens, it's an early build(dunno for sure), those don't look like game play, they are old pics, you need to see it in motion.

The other half says: Didn't MS say they started on REACH even before ODST why does it look so Halo 3? Didn't MS dedicate an entire studio to it and it's using an entirely new engine? Why does it look so Halo 3? Aren't we heading into 5 years into the 360's life and shouldn't there be a nice jump in graphics, especially it being the flagship 360 title and has the budget to be anything it wants? Why does it look so Halo 3?

/concerned

@below: Yeah we will see, everything looks bland to me and those textures/colors don't help. TimeSplitter, I'm trying to be optimistic here but you're not helping.. hah

[jalen247]

I feel the same way crab. I was hoping that this game would be the game that wowed me on the 360 graphically and would make me "jump in". I am definitely disappointed.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Crab

It's the ground textures and the mountain textures. They're using a drab color layout for it so it somewhat takes away from the rest of the game, from what I'm seeing in these shots at least.

[Timesplitter14]

Half of me says : "Those are crappy low res screens, it's an early build(dunno for sure), those don't look like game play, they are old pics, you need to see it in motion."

The other half says : "By now I should know that this whole "early build" thing is a myth and the graphics never really look noticably better in the final build. When will I learn?"

And besides, there's WAAAAY too much bloom.

[midgetsanx]

I think Character Models improved, but the environment isn't there yet. Still got 7 month though. Need to play this with some friends over!

[Bumpmapping]

Bu bu but teh 512mbz LOL!

[I Make Xbots Cry]

Maybe they'll catch up to MGS4 with Halo 5,6,7 or 8 we all know they're coming rofl.

[trancefreak]

Man thank god for crazy ken he saw the future and it looked good.

Crazy how the cell processor just keeps on givin I mean what is there 1 game that exceeds the ps3 in the graphics dept crysis and still not everyone can max that game with out a performance hit.

[GVON]

These can't be,I don't know what I can positively say apart from they got 8 months left.

This is why I had bit of a ding dong with someone last month about the trailer,I commented that it was beautifully edited and did a great job in hiding the fact it was empty,and in a game situation you'd have 15 meters of playable game space.

I'll admit Halo ain't my thing,I'm not worried about saying that,why should I be.But as it's such a collossus,as a gamer I'd be stupid for not taking any interest,I never rated games by insomniac,but I love seeing their work and regularly listened to the full moon show,and Halo is no different.
But guys,c'mon this is bad

http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...
http://item.slide.com/r/1/9...

These are ok,not technically but it looks cool.
http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...
http://item.slide.com/r/1/2...

I REALLY REALLY don't think Msoft will be happy with these getting out,especially if they are direct and not the usual touch up's we see.Mabey they are scans or something,I don't know but,i'm lost for words guys.

Edit

I've just read what i've written again and feel I must add this.

The game will sell millions,score well,be one of the most played on live,fans will love.make Msoft loads of money
My observations are not dumping on the gameplay,but because they are screens I can only judge how an early build looks.
Peace

[Goon 187]

Don't get me wrong halo is a good game but do they reaLLY need to release a new halo game every six months or every year?

Why not take a couple years on the game to improved the overall quality, enhance the graphics,improve gameplay etc instead of just refurbishing the already made product?

[00]

love the art style.

EDIT: wow I guess you can't say anything positive about halo, typical.

though the looks seems to be missing something, can't put my fingers on it.

[SDF Repellent]

So everything will be improved upon on. Bungiet did not promised 1080p and 60fps and anything like that...unlike some other game.

New Engine, 720p, Up to 40AI and 20 Vehicles and great co op and multiplayer is what the Halo franchise is all about.

Seriously, these screens already look fantastic and a huge improvement over Halo 3 and with 8 more months of development left, everything should be great upon release.

LOL, how can anyone with any sense based these graphics on such low res screen shots taking from a small part of an early built screens?

Remember when the Trailer was released on low res and everyone was saying it is just like Halo 3..but when the High res trailers were released a day later...they were like :O

[young juice]

i dont remember anyone from santa monica saying gow3 will be 1080p and run at 60 fps. that was only a rumor. please dont try to trash based on what you've read by fanboys...

other than that i agree with you 100%.

[cmrbe]

Even Gears looks better than this.

[CWMR]

-I can't say I agree. Gears 2 looks awesome, but this looks better. Especially if you consider how much more linear Gears 2 is than Halo 3.-

[bozebo]

The engine looks very different, I hope it has a similar feel to it.

[jalen247]

The crazy thing is that we can't even use the excuse that its screen shots from the multi-player and that the single player would look better because these are the single player screen shots. Shameful!

Hopefully they can improve the graphics because come September people will be highly disappointment.

[SDF Repellent]

We know your point dude...

Your avatar said it all. It is no match for your game Heavy Rain in the Graphics department. You win

I gladly take co op, multiplayer, mutiple AL, vehicles and fun over a QTE so called game any day of the week.

Please stop trolling. Need alot of SDF Repellent for this thread.

[jalen247]

What does my avatar have to do with anything?

I could have easily used a Commander Shepard pic since I like Mass Effect.

Does my Heavy Rain avatar change the fact that these screen shots are unimpressive?

No matter what system someone owns or whether they are a fanboy or not, one thing is for certain, these screen shots are disappointing.

So you can try to demean me all you want and try to paint me as some kind of fanboy which I am not. But you should stay on topic.

I am not trolling, I am a gamer. I have no allegiance to any console manufacturer. I enjoy games period. I can be in any gaming channel I want to be in. I don't have to currently own a 360 to be interested in a 360 or in 360 news.

I am a straight shooter. I am not going to praise anything whether its Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft unless they are doing something great or right in my opinion.

[SDF Repellent]

LOL,

You can't be serious, can you? Your bio history look like a Sony employment resume for a PR position.

Here re a few of your recent and shameful post that show your true color.
Please, just stop.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Seriously, true gamers do not post comments like that.

[jalen247]

There is nothing wrong with those three comments you referred to.

True gamers speak their mind whether it is to praise or criticize irregardless of which console they own or which of their console's is their favorite.

I own a PS3 and a Wii. My PS3 is my favorite system for obvious reason.

I praise Nintendo when they do things that I like and I criticize them when they do things that I don't like.

I praise Sony when they do things that I like and I criticize them when they do things that I don't like. Sony happen to be doing things that I like so they don't get much criticizing from me.

I don't own a 360 yet but that doesn't mean its not a good system or that it doesn't have anything to offer. I praise Microsoft when they do things that I like and I criticize them when they do things that I don't like. Microsoft happen to be doing a lot of things that I do not like so they get much more criticism from me.

Just because you prefer one system over the other doesn't make you a fanboy. Its natural to have a favorite...favorite song, favorite game, favorite food, etc, etc.

To me it is more of a fanboy action to sit there and praise a console manufacturer for mediocre work. And that is what you my friend do.

[jalen247]

Since you want to try and paint me as a Sony fanboy by referencing some of my comments which by the way aren't even fanboyish. Cynical yes...fanboyish no.

I guess the following comments would make me a 360 fanboy also...huh?/s

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[gamer2010]

You think those couple of comments makes you not a PS3 fanboy? Even Bungie could come up with far more pro-ps3 comments than that. Not to mention that most of them were like half positive half stealth trolling. Let's be real here, you are one of the biggest ps3 fanboys around.
PS3 fanboys are trolling this article hard hoping to damage interest in Halo Reach, but I guarantee everyone can see right through their bs and can see for themselves that Halo Reach looks amazing and will be one of the best games of the year.

[bjornbear]

thats just DAMN pathetic guys, seriously.

[KingKionic]

What was the Lone Wolf doing here ?

http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

Looks like a assassination or something .

[Neo604]

MS is a rip off with all those sales but no improve quality.

[drzmvp554]

bungie please tell me this is from a very early build of the game, i was so hyped on the details that hit the internet last week or so and now after seeing these pictures, my hype has changed into concern...

[stonecold1]

nor even killzone 2 or even uncharted 2 bots enjoy your last gen console 360 not on the same leauge as ps3 the bot think crapbox is powerful than ps3 keep dreaming bots thats a fact ps3 blow the crapbox out of the water

[trancefreak]

well the 360 takes the crown for red ring fire xplosions. Keep Clear console is running lol.

[CWMR]

-What? Even Mass Effect 2 looks superior to Uncharted 2.

I just watched that Mass Effect 2 video that someone posted and it looks truly fantastic. Especially watch after the 10:23 mark when it gets into more gameplay. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then as you watch that watch this clip from Uncharted 2 and flip back and forth between them. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mass Effect 2 clearly has the higher graphical fidelity.-

[aceitman]

http://g4tv.com/videos/3902... now compare and u want to compare a game thats dark and closed in to a open environment what a joke

[starchild]

Now why did you need to get some high quality video of Uncharted 2? Doesn't Uncharted 2 look good enough to stand up to Mass Effect 2 using the same size and quality youtube videos?

Mass Effect 2 looks better, that's why.

[shutupandplay]

We all know it`s gonna be fun. But c`mon, was anybody really expecting some sort of technical showcase like killzone 2? As always, Halo: Reach will focus on fun co-op campaign and competitive multiplayer.

[Dude420]

All you guys ever look at is the detail of the character models and land and then compare it to KZ2 and UC2.

First of all, the details on the characters look great, I'll agree the the level design needs a little improvement, but it's still an improvement over halo 3, and this is only one level.

Second, Halo has a much bigger map compared to KZ2, and UC2 is very linear in campaign (UC2 maps are small in comparison to halo too).

Third, does KZ2 and UC2 give you vehicles to control? Yeah, didn't think so. KZ2 has a tank and a mech strictly for campaign. The physics will probably be top notch as usual like in halo 3.

Fourth, "LOLZ the gameplay looks like just plain old halo!!! LOLZ". Ummm, no sh!t sherlock? It's f'n halo! Oh, i see, you wanted the atmosphere to be just like KZ2 right?.

Fifth, the effects in Halo 3 were nicely done and there was so much chaos going on at once. I'm pretty sure that's going to stay on Halo Reach.

I'm sure there are more, but here are my final thoughts, Reach is a much, much better improvement over halo 3. I'm sure the resolution will upped as well for this game. Don't get me wrong, I thought KZ2 and UC2 looked bloody awesome, but you cannot truly compare the graphics to halo reach simply because the game plays differently.

So far I'm liking it, and here's hoping I'll like it even more in motion.

Haters will hate, gamers will game, that is all.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You make some good points.

But KZ2 did up the bar for visuals in console games(UC2 even further). What better title for MS to use then the money making flagship title that is the main face of Xbox? They built a whole studio around it and from what I thought, made an entirely new engine for the game.

I understand the art style of the Halo universe and that it shouldn't mimic KZ2's atmosphere but when it comes to quality of mocap, animation, poly count, etc I would expect Bungie and MS to put it all into it. As of now, we can't get much of any of that information from these crappy screeners so I'm holding off.. but they have me concerned.

I am thinking more like the live action/CGI Reach thing they did. It is a dirty/gritty feel but not dark like KZ and I was hoping they would go that direction..

MS may simply not want to invest in the tech and people and think they can still make fists of cash without all that effort. It's a shame and a reason to appreciate what Sony is doing.

[Dude420]

But like you also said, you can't judge by these crappy screens. I actually think the screens looks roughly the same as the trailer. I'm not saying the trailer is representative of the game, but if it's any indication, it seems that the polycount and the animations have vastly improved. That cutscene looked better than any Halo 3 or ODST cutscene IMO.

Anyway, we'll see when they release some good res screens and gameplay videos. Like I said, I'm liking it so far.

[NateCole]

I told you bots in the GOW3 article. Don't say crap about GOW3 until you see Halo Reach.

Foot in mouth aye bots.

[Convas]

Gameplay please 'N' thank you!

[Anti-Fanboyer]

*after looking*

Da f*ck!!?

[Arnon]

I seem to be one of the only few who actually read the article in the Game Informer to actually know what is being improved upon.

LONG READ (but good one)

"While the story of Noble Team is a dramatic departure from the Halo franchise, many players will be far more interested in how far Bungie's technology has moved forward. The answer? A great deal.

"We basically hit every single piece of the engine, making things better across the board," creative director Marcus Lehto explains. The new tech engine starts with a refined approach to distance and detail that allows for a dramatically expanded number of enemies, light sources, and other details.

Bungie describes the technology as "imposter" tech - a devoted system for Halo: Reach that iterates off of a common programming technique. "The new LOD [level of detail] system allows us to build and populate much larger spaces of exploration," Lehto emphasizes. In simple terms, distant objects are rendered at far lower polygon counts and with cheaper shaders. These imposters still look great from a distance, and the detail on the objects increases the closer you get to them. This means there's less chance of pop-up and stippling, as environmental geometry, plants, buildings, enemies, or anything else can be placed into a visual field at extreme distances without a profound hit to system performance. Furthermore, at extremely close range, items can be rendered with incredible detail. We saw a wall from inches away, where the tiny rivet textures in the metal popped on the screen with near perfect clarity.

Indirectly, the imposter system frees up memory that Bungie can devote to other in-game technical challenges. Chief among these technical hurdles is lighting. In Halo 3, Bungie could include three or four dynamic lights onscreen at any time. Depending on the situation, Halo: Reach can present 20 to 40 dynamic lights at one time. The most notable in-game result of this technology is on weapon effects. As plasma bolts come searing past, they move across the screen with their own independent light source, casting color and shadow about the space to remarkable effect. On the back of a Warthog, we see a chain gun fire at a wall. Hundreds of real sparks fly from the stone. Even more impressive, the particles interact not just with the geometry of the wall, but with its normal map as well. The particles that scatter down onto a nearby vehicle react with its curves and lines. The sparks actually bounce and flow along the tiny textured surface.

A new weather system sends rain pouring down on many of the missions, adding to the atmosphere of foreboding tragedy that pervades the experience. When the rain isn't blocking the view, far above the battlefield, the sky isn't a simple "skybox." In many games, including the previous Halo games, the sky above is little more than an illusion - a huge painted dome above the game world that isn't a real space. Halo: reach employs the opposite approach. The sky is a true space in the world, which means that as a ship descends from orbit and towards the player, you can watch it come in all the way as a real object descending toward you.

Animation features a similar level of advancement. For the first time, Bungie has implemented motion capture. A majority of the cinematic sequences are based on captured actions. Onscreen characters exhibit an animation technique called variable gait blending. Simply put, it means that as a character changes speed, the animation of walking blends seamlessly into running, which likewise blends into sprinting. When turning on a pivot (think holding left or right on the right analog stick), players no longer appear to stand still and simply turn in a circle. In Halo: Reach, they move realistically as they pivot, lifting their feet and moving their bodies in reaction. For facial work, Bungie enlisted the aid of Image Metrics, a company some gamers may recall for their remarkable "Emily" video in 2008. With their aid, human faces now appear dramatically more lifelike than in previous Halo games.

Taken together, it's easy to see the generational leap in quality between previous games and Reach."

**EDIT**

Regarding weapons:

"New weapons and vehicles abound in Halo: Reach, from the one-shot DMR and the medium-range needle rifle to the helicopter-like Falcon, an armed attack and transport vehicle that ferries your squad across the world. But even old weapons have been re-imagined to feel more powerful and dangerous. One of the most notable strategies for doing so is the new sound effects produced by each weapon. We heard several weapons fired side-by-side with their versions from Halo 3. Without exception, the new sounds were more explosive, detailed, and realistic."

Please don't judge the game off of tiny images you find on a website, as there's actually a lot they're improving on, and from what Game Informer has experienced, it's an amazing leap.

[KingKionic]

I never bought the mag . Thanks for the info though .

There adding a weather system ?

Amazing .

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Good read. I think we need to wait for game play video until we judge.

[KingKionic]

Now that you told me about the weather effect i hope will see some maps with weather in the multiplayer .

[00]

that sounds incredible I'm not surprised by the weather and sky dynamics, halo 3 did have a 3d sky but now it's seems vastly improved from the description.

[Arnon]

Also, just to clarify what people are looking at here...

[Arnon]

Lol I own Killzone 2. I beat it, and walked away with about 72% of the trophies in about 2 weeks. I know what the game looks like. You just showed us moving footage, and called me a troll for showing off a screenshot.

Do you not see what you did wrong there?

Also, the footage you actually showed us was in a first person perspective, and was honestly an ugly level to showcase what the game looks like in the first place. Hell, I'd say the first level is the benchmark for what the game can do.

But no. The picture I showcased was of the final build. At least, that's from my understanding, since the character models of the Helghast look the exact same from the later pictures on IGN.

[Xtremist]

Finally someone who made a real 1:1 comparison (compared screenshots of the same "poor" resolution and quality).
By those shots it seems that H:R is going to destroy KZ2 and sets new graphical standards in exclusive FPSs.

[SaberEdge]

Thanks for posting that. I already have the magazine, but its nice that other people will be able to read that.

It is seriously some impressive tech. I have no doubt that Halo Reach will be one of the most impressive looking games when it comes out.

It is easy to see that what we saw in the trailer is the same as in the screenshots and seeing it in motion leaves no doubt in my mind that it will be right up there with the best of them.

I own and have beaten Killzone 2 and also played it online for awhile, so I know exactly what it looks like. And I know one thing for sure, it is a very nice looking game but PS3 fanboys way overexaggerate its graphics. I have heard several PS3 fanboys in this thread say that this doesn't come close to Killzone 2. Bleh, yeah right.

I posted some screenshots and I see that you did as well. They show quite clearly that Halo Reach compares very well to Killzone 2. The character models in fact are much better than Killzone 2's.

I heard someone else criticize Halo Reach for not having vegetation, but I guess they forgot that Killzone 2 has almost no vegetation. Even in these few screenshots we see trees. Killzone 2 also has very linear, closed in levels for the most part. Halo on the other hand has always had big open levels with lots of stuff going on in them.

Well, all I can say is that I have the magazine and the screenshots look really nice. It already looks amazing and they still have a long way to go before the game comes out.

[bjornbear]

this game will be awesome n all but...destroy KZ2 graphically?...

seriously? =P did you hit your head?

LOL

[Xtremist]

I said it will be the first "exclusive" fps to destroy KZ2.
MW2 has already destroyed it but this is multiplatform as you know.
Seriously this is how far you can go when you sacrifice the most important graphical features like HDR,Scale and Organic level-design in order to sell cheap monochromatic pseydo-realism to casuals...

[gamer2010]

It is hilarious that that guy gets mad at Arnon for showing a screenshot comparison and then posts a video. What does it matter? We are judging Halo Reach on some crappy quality scans and we don't have video, so we are comparing screenshot to screenshot, which clearly shows Halo Reach looks better.

[Erotic Sheep]

Xtremist, exactly HOW did MW2 destroy KZ2? MW2 is buggy and short as hell and the majority sees MW2 as a huge dissapointment to its predecessor. Looking at the graphics of MW2 and the current ones from Halo Reach, I'd say Bungie has a LOT of work to do to back up your "statement". But honestly, I'd say we have to see Halo Reach in motion before we all start screaming like a bunch of overhyped cows.

[Xtremist]

Are you kidding me? In a dozen different ways:
Better graphics, better framerate, better lighting and lighting direction, bigger scale levels, much more organic levels, more detailed enemies on screen, better atmosphere, better multiplayer section etc...
Also, in case you 've missed it, the majority of the PS3 owners recognise the superiority of MW2 over KZ2 and this is the reason they are buying the first while the second collect dust on the shelves.

[Pistolero]

Its true...MW2 surpasses Killzone 2 in many ways...but some people only look at basic graphics they never consider the scale or the framerate or the lighting...I also think MW2 looks better than Killzone 2...but I never say that because it gets the PS3 fanboys' panties in a knot...well I don't think it looks better in every way...but when you consider it has twice the framerate and bigger environments and stuff...I think it is more technologically impressive.

[I Make Xbots Cry]

Give me a H!

Give me a A!

Give me a L!

Give me a O!

What does it spell?!!

MILK!!!!

[Chubear]

rotflmao!

Gads, I can't believe my comments were deleted on gamer zone. That was just real talk and a discussion. I have my fun on here sure but damn, it's just looking like the 360fans just WANT to be used and abused and they like it. There's NOTHING that'll make them sit up and demand better.

I remember HHG saying GoW3 will be the game even the staunchest of 360fans will acknowledge but that's just not going to happen. If it hasn't happend by now with all the insanes games we've seen already then GoW3 aint changing that. As long as it's not a multiplat title, GoW3 will be deemed simply hack 'n slash QTE garbage. Nothing will make them see the light and I say, good for them, let them just be.

[mcnablejr]

cant wait to play halo reach.
halo reach is not on the playstation 3 =/

[PtRoLLFacE]

Character models, weapons and vehicles look great but the enviroment looks plain just like halo 3 but with higher resolution textures, I don't know if anyone watched the "meet the halo reach team" video, well the enviroment designer looks like a 17 year old kid, bungie needs to fire tha mofo, they need someone that can create very detail enviroments, that's the only thing all games need, anyway those screens are probably from pre alfa or alfa build, bungie has a lot time to add more detail and polish, hopefully by the time the game comes out it will look better, there stil time to improve so I stil have hopes for this game.

[bjornbear]

best looking halo though, thats for sure

[Henry Cain]

I need to see gameplay. The characters look nice but the environment looks just ok to me.

[JoelT]

shots look in-engine, not necessarily in game. Saw something similar, way back when Halo 2 launched. High res shots taken from a PC and not necessarily an Xbox. I never trust bungie because of it.

[JudoChinX]

I thought this was going to be running on a new engine? Doesn't look much better than Halo 3, although the character details (jackals' teeth come to mind) do look better. Definitely a title to keep an eye on.

[Chapulin]

Backgrounds remind me a lot of UT III. Hopefully gameplay makes up for it like the first Halo.

[CernaML]

Direct Feed? Dear God.. the game's resolution is lower than ever now!

[Convas]

.. Before I go all Apeshit and rage against the machine, like some of my prostitute friends. From what I've seen, oh wait, that's right, I haven't seen anything yet. No gameplay. Nada. Zilch. So, comparing GOW3 (Which has a Demo, lots of gameplay footage and PLENTY of HI-RES screens) to Halo REACH is like comparing a 6 month old's crawl to a 18 month old's walk.

It's about Gameplay. And I ain't seen none, making your arguments null and void. Come again. (When there's gameplay footage of course.)

[dustgavin]

Well, they are showing us shots of the graphics and we do have the right to comment on that. Not bad but not great.

[Dev8 ing]

Yeah obviously every one has forgotten the Halo 3 Bullshots and the Gears Bullshots. Wait to see actual footage before saying anything.

[ScoobyDrew]

i gotta say...

the needler rifle looks f'in sweet

[Veneno]

finally a Halo that doesn't look like total garbage

[xxmob]

the last pic look like a stealth mission, like in the first one. i hope its as good

[chrisulloa]

Reminds me of GT:P screens when they came out, of course it's not finished you stupid droids =)

[dustgavin]

Yet that does not stop you retarded bots from commenting on PS3 games not yet finished. The game looks decent at best, get over it.

Go go power rangers!

[Karooo]

Bungie said its already playable from start to finish.

[chrisulloa]

Playable from start to finish doesn't mean finished, also the environment textures are placeholders obviously, but the character models are looking good. Also the dynamic lighting that the game informer screen shots mention should be put into place. Even if this were the final product it'd definitely be the best shooter of the year.

[dustgavin]

^^
Ok. Now you are just being ridiculous. You see a few screen shots and already feel it is shooter of the year? FAIL.

[chrisulloa]

No, I see that all of Bungie is working (Not 1/5th of the company to make ODST) and I know it's shooter of the year.

[taylork37]

Keep talking hypocrite..

How much have you seen of GOW? A bad demo and some way over appreciated screen shots a little larger than a thumbnail.

Yet you are calling it game of the year. How does this make sense to you?

If we can't say it than neither can you you f*ck*n douche.

[dustgavin]

You sit there and downplay every PS3 exclusive and then turn around and brag about 360 exclusives as if they are in some league of their own!

The 360 came out a full year before the Wii or PS3 and it has not been able to top the quality of most PS3 exclusives.Don't come in the open zone all high and mighty acting like you are so sincere. You are just another loser kid running his mouth without the intelligence to back it up.

Idiot.

[SaberEdge]

@dustgavin

Most PS3 exclusives?

Dear god, you PS3 fanboys are more lost and insane than I thought.

Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are the ONLY games that can even be argued to look better than the better 360 games.

Judging by the trailer and the screenshots Halo Reach will definitely be one of the best looking games around.

[taylork37]

@ dustgavin

When do I brag about 360 exclusives? For me to downplay something, I have to know how good it is. And since the game isn't f*cking out, I can't really tell how good it is. The same goes for you idiots.

You do the exact same thing that you are accusing me of doing, but instead of downplaying it, you play it up a whole lot more than you can possibly back up.

"The 360 came out a full year before the Wii or PS3 and it has not been able to top the quality of most PS3 exclusives."

If you are talking about graphics...than I hope not. The PS3 has a year's worth of newer hardware, what do you expect? If you are talking about actual quality of games, than you can go f*ck right off. Its BS if you think the 360 doesn't have "quality" games to match the PS3.

Keep trying to insult people on a comment board, because it makes you look so much smarter.

[MadMan00]

Graphics aren't a huge Step up really from what they could do..For example FFXIII the graphics on it are amazing.

Though, I think this game will be a disappointment as much as Halo 3 was. Halo is getting old it's too similar every time...Bungie should start a new franchise.

[hiyaku]

Looks like horsesh*t, just like every other Gaylo game.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Poor drods poop in pants with fear

[Karooo]

droids dont give a sht they are laughing at you guys right now, what a pathetic inferior console 360 is lol.]

see the screens again and go play some ps3 exclusive.

[artsaber]

WTF is with the rabid CROWS?

[OrganicMachine]

the graphical jump of Halo 3 to Halo: Reach is the same jump as Call of duty 4:Modern warfare to Call of Duty: modern warfare 2

not that much really..

[SmokeyMcBear]

you guys are funny.. this isnt halo reach.. this is halo 3... you guys will see the real graphics when they release actual gameplay. Also the game is a fps.. and you can easily get better graphics from a 3rd person view.

The real graphics will be what everyone saw when they released the trailer a while ago.. those will be the real gameplay graphics, just you watch.

[OrganicMachine]

what are you Smoking SmoekyMacBear?

TPS acutally renders more than FPS, in FPS, they only render what your camera sees and that doesn't include your avatar. only your avatar's guns and hands which have less polys than the acutal avatar.

in TPS it has to render your avatar and the world, that's why games like MAG and Killzone 2 are in First person shooters, games like Crysis are in first person shooters, the ammount of polys and details being rendered are being framed by the camera, everything behind it is not being rendered..

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[taylork37]

Keep the bullsh*t coming droids. You guys are pathetic. You guys brag about so many games on the PS3 but somehow you still have a significant amount of time to sit and wait for a pro-360 article just so you can get a quick worthless comment in.

[Karooo]

bots bashed gow3 and heavy rain, they had it coming, they said reach has the best graphics.

[dustgavin]

And you brag about so many 360 games and yet still have the time to run your mouth on every PS3 article posted!

[iNFAMOUZ1]

what a pathetic attempt to bash taylor, you used the same sentence on him.
sony fans are the most pathetic uncivilized group I've seen in years, and i've been around...

point is, if you don't own a 360 and arent a fan of halo or are a sony fanboy, GTFO

too many pathetic trolls

p.s ARE YOU EFFIN KIDDN?!? this game looks awesome for being in pre-beta stage with placeholders everywhere and 8 months dev time

[taylork37]

@kartik21

wow 2 obvious 360 fanboy said something completely dumb and of course you bunch those few idiots with every 360 owning person on N4G. People commenting in the PS3 articles cannot even have a neutral comment without being harassed.They have to say something good about the PS3 game whether it deserves it or not to get any decent response. It is sad.

@dustgavin

Are you getting mixed up when people brag about his 2010's lineup? Everyone in their right mind knows that 360 didn't have to many big games. Don't make up your own argument just to have a comeback.

[rbluetank]

the early build screen shots look like ut3 hybrid!!!

[Jurassik]

gameinformer scans=((

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

Call me jaded, but those screens don't look impressive at all. Not even in the slightest. While I do enjoy a good few rounds of Halo every now and again, I won't be looking forward to anything new in the graphics department in Reach.

Maybe I'm missing the point, though. Halo isn't supposed to look realistic at all right? Halo2 looked great for a last gen game, but beyond Halo 2, the visuals really stayed in the same place. Maybe the only direction for Halo's style is more...crisp--er (yet staying low-res somehow)?

[Russia208]

Double *Sigh*, it looks the same as halo 3... The "X-engine"(I think that's what it was called) is just another Microsoft marketing scheme...big surprise.

[CWMR]

-I love how all of you PS3 guys are trying to act unimpressed. When you guys do that it usually means that you are impressed. And who can blame you? Halo Reach does look really impressive. I can't wait.-

[Demon5500]

I guess you guys do not like halo? , To all the none believers, these shots are from last year, when bungie had the open media day, we still have 8 months plus to go, do you understand what 8 months of optimization will do?

[grantps3]

im not trying to pick a fight, but that doesn't look half as good as the trailer. dont get me wrong its still above average, but its not that close to the trailer at all. its early on so lets just wait and see how it goes

@ way above who said it reminds them of GT 5 screens and tried to use that to make fun of gt p and ps3.....uhhh....GTP came out December 2007 so im pretty sure a capable dev like bunjie Should be able to surpass the visuals of a game released about 2.5 or 3 years earlier.

honestly im not a fan of halo but i still am looking forwards to seeing the final product.

[starchild]

What are you talking about? It looks exactly like the trailer. The only difference is that the trailer had a higher level of anti-aliasing applied.
Screenshots from scans: http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...

Stills from trailer: http://www.gamespot.com/pag...

You can see that the character models and overall quality is the same.

[deshon09]

but is me or dose any one else want to see bugie do something else i mean yes halo will sell
but i would love to see what they could do with an action adventure game or some thing else

i not going to lie and say i am there biggest fan or even a fan of the 360 it self but games like mass efect 1-2 /alan wake make me want to play it and i wont lie with tax time here and my bills payed

i mite invest in another 360 but sorry back to my point i would love to see them do something else after reach take as you will but i fell every game developer need to branch out eventually

[Corepred4]

from these screen shots the game is not pretty. not pretty at all.

[N4realGMRZ]

There is no doubt in my mind that this game has hurt alot of Fanboys feelings....There hurt because...there in denial that this game absolutely looks better than Killzone and and slaps Uncharted's Cony Island graphic style.......i swear everytime i play uncharted i think about what saturday cartoon inspired this dev team? Reach looks better i know it, they know it,, and now there out in full damage control force, especially after those bull shots of GOW 3 that where released (typical of sony).......... Another note no one should take these go out and beat a little boy to death Sony fanboys to seriously, we'll all just laugh when there playing the game secretly trying to convince themselves there not have a blast....hiding in caves or by a best friend....lol.....They just got a graphical b!tch slap by Bungie!!!!

[Corepred4]

really.. you think this game is graphically equal to or greater than killzone 2 or uncharted 2? well you did only say killzone and uncharted so i'm guessing you mean the first ones. idk about the first uncharted though i think it still puts up a good fight against this. won't know til the game comes out and is played on my own tv. but please quit being a jackass and saying its hurting people's feelings, lol you sound pathetic.

[BlackSharinganX]

if thats graphically b!tch slaped , by i dont know who cause for now only best looking games ive seen is gears and mass effect, since those pics look the same as halo 3 to me only darker, plz halo 3+ photoshop = halo reach, for now cause i really want to see some impressive sh!t in there and they havent done so, unlike mass effect 2 or splinter cell conviction those are the competion right now till they reveal something new for halo. Even god of war is offering good sh!t to look for. which from what i see killzone 2 alone can take halo reach graphically down, unchated 2 just takes and blows that game off, surely did for me, as for god of war 3 from what i see its going to make halo fans make another game of god war just kicking master chief and his squad durring the whole game.

[starchild]

No other shooter combines the quality of lighting, textures, detailed character models, and huge environments with the kind of dynamic unpredictable gameplay, 4 player co-op and perfectly polished multiplayer that Halo Reach is going to offer.

[Bizmal]

looks fake.

[BlackSharinganX]

dude i havent seen nothing new on halo reach only it looks darker thats all :S, i smell a rip off

[redneck_smith]

HALO REACH BETTER GRAPHICS THAN KILLZONE 2? HEHEHEHE I THING THE CONDUIT WII LOOKS BETTER THAN HEALO REACH

[iNFAMOUZ1]

your as retarded as that other dude that said super mario galaxy looked better
congrats!

[N4realGMRZ]

I wrote the last comment like 15 minutes ago and i have Sony fan down my throat, Justifying themselves and even making a pathetic try to say "it gives uncharted 1 a run for its money" lol..........i told you these people are honestly in denial! i wont go over again why this game looks better than Killzone 2 and UNCHARTED 2! its just obvious to most people who dont have only one console (watch some Je5k say "i have both but..." ) anyway i'll tell you guys what....when your playing this game in that cave that i talked about remember ............ the real world will greet you with open arms.......we understand after all you only started playing real games in 2009! lol

[BlackSharinganX]

so your saying your not a fanboy yourself? if you havent notice that this halo hasnt brought new things to your collection then your really blind to the point that yoru only seeing the back master chiefs helmet, jsut look at it, the only cool thing i saw in the game, and will probably do the same as the others was that dude with a skull painted on his helmet with a knife, that the only new thing i saw there, halo 1 sucked, halo 2 best i loved it, halo3 meh played already bit more refined in graphics, halo wars.... yeahh of course.... halo odst, oh we cant fall on that one its to much of a disgrace after seeing that game... halo reach i really do wish taht in E3 or something they offer soemthing good cause other wise dont see the point of getting it really if its just going to be a rip off lol. Time to take your helmet off son see other games that are already better than halo(call of duty always, BFBC2 oh yeah, killzone 2 decent, uncharted 2 hell yah, gears hell yeah, resistance 1 alright, resistance 2 coop great online competitive sucks). seems you need to look for other game experience its not always a green helmet.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I like Halo, I like xbox. But when I see GOWIII pictures than these I wonder wtf is going on. God of war blows this game away easily. This doesn't look BAD, it just doesn't look like a flagship exclusive title. Or is that just me?

[starchild]

Sorry, I don't agree at all. God of War 3 looks pretty nice, but this beats it in the area of textures and lighting, which are the two biggest areas that determine a games graphical quality. In terms of art direction you might like God of War 3 better, but technically Halo Reach is definitely superior.

[Blinding_Solo]

Wow I can't believe how ugly this game is. Yet we all know xbox fanboys are going to defend this gay game. Stupid bots defend your true only good game which is Gears of War which is better than this sh!t. You dumb bots get stupid each and every year with these last gen games. Xbox 360 was indeed maxed out with Gears of War 2. Sorry but your console has last gen technology and will never advanced this gen.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

wow that was profound, thank you for clarifying that, your just made my day. Copied every last bit of nonsense every other sony forum member has said into one paragraph.

[Another One]

I don't see bad graphics. I see a sci-fi art style that's really coming along nicely. Bungie isn't going to deviate from the distinct look of Halo. Everyone who bagged on Halo 3 for bad graphics was doing so because it didn't look "realistic" (charcter faces sucked. I'll give you that). For what Reach is, it looks fantastic compared to Halo 3, and that's saying something.

So basically, you look at the game knowing that it's going to be that colorful sci-fi world that Halo is known for and that it has it's own art style. Not every game has to look "realistic" to look good.

And as far as I can tell, they're the same pictures from Game Informer.

[Mottsy]

defintly the best lookin halo game. now lets hope they put that much efforT** into game play

[Xi]

implement some ssao or at least pre-baked ao, the shadows of static objects look pretty disappointing.

Character models are the best I've ever seen (bar crysis), looks as if they're being tessellated, either that or those helmets are really high poly (very round).

Also very glad that it still looks like halo, it just wouldn't be the same if it looked like a ut3 game (like gow 3).

8 months left, and I doubt it's the latest build, still lots of work to be done.

[ironmonkey]

yea it looks like halo 3 sorry it just does

[mythamp]

I would not be that mean, to me it seems slightly better than halo 3, i will admit that.
Oh and unlike many other, I wont call GOWIII graphics amazing until I see real shots in the reviews, some screens till now look amazing some just average (maybe I am not getting it).

[massvmunkee]

im hoping this isnt what the final build will look like. as im sure youve all seen the gow3 pics, those are just mind-blowing! still think reach has potential but so far it is just meh visually (better than halo 3 tho).

[CWMR]

-It's funny how people see things differently. I wasn't blown away by the God of War 3 shots. It looks good, not amazing. Definitely not as good as Uncharted 2 or Gears of War 2.-

[DelbertGrady]

No matter how much you try to downplay it in the end it will still be bigger than anything on the PS3 this year. You will stand there with your trousers down saying "Bu-bu-but it doesn't look like teh Killzones" when this game is being enjoyed by millions of gamers worldwide. They won't give a sh!t about what Killzone 2 looks like, or how many players MAG supports. Only you do.

[Major_Tom]

Blissfully dumb eh Whiney Popinsky?

[DelbertGrady]

And here comes the "intellectual" pretentious brat who thinks that he's the proud possessor of the ultimate truth. I'm so sorry, dear elitist master. Please enlighten me about how things REALLY are.

[baum]

Why do you Xtards care so much about it being a good looking game by PS3 standards? Moron.

[DelbertGrady]

It's the other way around. If you look closely you'll notice that this is a 360 article about a 360 exclusive game. If the PS3 trolls didn't come in here feeling the insecure urge of mentioning Killzone 2 my comment wouldn't exist. Look around.

[NoPoint]

God of War 3 says high

[begatron]

The game looks fantastic cant wait for this game, all ps3 fanboys can stop spouting rubbish about killzone 2 and uc2 cos its irrelevant, this is halo and its just for us 360 owners.

[OrganicMachine]

lol you're funny..

[Redgehammer]

They look good to me.

[hard joe]

but teh salez XD
yeah because they have nothing else
(not to mention ps3 owns dec npd)

[iNFAMOUZ1]

oh wow SONY OWNS DEC NPD, WOOPTI FRIKKIN DO, YO! EVERYONE PARTY!!!!!!!
stop sitting on sony's shaft and wake up, halo is about core gameplay + story + multiplayer

[Pillville]

halo is about 12 year olds playing the same virtual paintball game over and over again.

[Pistolero]

And Killzone 2 isn't?...you PS3 fans come up with the most moronic cut downs...Halo is one of the most finely crafted shooter franchises ever.

[Bobbie001]

Now THAT, looks pretty descent. It's a step in the right direction

[hakis86]

lol just kidding.

Looks better than Halo 3 though.
Better than KZ2? Hell no :)

[BYE]

Exept for the environments, they look good, that's how Halo 3 should have looked in the first place.

To really determine how good the game looks it requires a gameplay video.

[Karooo]

but 360 fans had to come in gow3 and heavy rain news and say omg halo reach has better graphics etc.

no wonder you guys are getting drilled now.

[Tesselation 360]

Even shadow complex looks better then that cgi movie.

Your butts must be bleeding droids quick quick call the doctor. Actually hire the doctor to stay by your sides all year cause your so much gonna need him.

[KratoOwnsAll]

What is shadow complex? Another Power Rangers? Lol

Go go Power Rangers

[etownone]

disappointed...

1. this is MS flagship title
2. 5 years into the life of the 360
3. x-engine
4. had more than enough $$ budget
5. Studio devoted just for this game

by far it looks better than previous Halo's... but when you see PS3 pushing out KZ2 and UC2, i was hoping for a jaw dropping realistic Halo game to set the bar.

i'm sure there will be some clarification from Bungie/MS tomorrow

[hakis86]

If you don't already have one.

On-topic: I agree with you though, I really was expecting some awesome screens after all this talk about the "X-engine" being the future engine for the 360 that would bump visuals up. Well who knows maybe Bungie just SUCK at graphics (no offence Bungie), and some other developers will get much more out of the engine... ( or not?)

[nogolis]

Well, this confirms Killzone 2's FPS grafix dominance... Online and offline. Looks good... Just not Godzone 2 good.

[wages of sin]

Here you have old pics of a game that is 8 months away and your talking about a "confirmation" of KZ2 looking better?

KZ2 looked good but it's because of the art direction, that's it. Simply put, there wasn't an FPS at the time (or now really) that had such a dark, ominous tone to it. I can't speak for Reach because like you, I don't know that much about it. However, what I can say is that all the Halo games have technically/graphically been power houses. Most of you seem to not be able to understand the difference between graphics and art style but that's ok...it's N4G we're talking about so I'm not surprised.

Bungie has been, is, and in the foreseeable future will be, a great, humble developer that not only listens to it's community but set's standards that have and will change the industry when they release a game. No FPS(at least on consoles) has the level of interaction and support of it's community as Bungie has with it's fans and it shows. IMO, as far as consoles go, there still hasn't been an FPS that looks as good as H3 or more recently ODST...they are beautiful games both graphically and art style wise. Count them as a total package, that's fine, either way, Halo wins in my book. What other FPS does what it does with as many NPC's with advanced AI and such a large scale as it does, all that and the added features that it has that has yet to be matched since the release of Halo3.

It's all too obvious that Hating Halo is the new world sport in gaming and frankly it's just sad. Even Naughty Dog thanked Bungie in the credits for Uncharted 2 but yet rabid fanboys just have to make themselves out to be jerks. Hate all you want, but, to this day, no console FPS has offered more and done more than the Halo series for it's genre...Halo set the standard; online and off. Take a look at bungie.net with it's stat tracking, saved films etc., It's just sad that the blinders are on for so many of you. If this were GOW3 or KZ2 you'd be screaming to the heavens about how they are beta pics, blah, blah, blah. Good thing I have the ability to think for myself and see what's obvious...not blindly oblivious because of some make belief superiority complex with an inanimate object. Stop being haters and be gamers. I miss the old days, back in the early 80's when it wasn't like this. Most gamers I knew had Master systems and NES's. 3DO's and Neo-Geo's...not this b.s. we have nowadays with irrational fanboys and ignorant tools.

I'm done ranting, you can proceed with the disagrees and bubble taking.

[OrganicMachine]

really Now? Halo 3 and Halo ODST graphical powerhouses?

from what I've played, Halo 3 does not have real object motion blur, the physics in the game is very floaty, multiplayer only hosts 16 players(18 max I think) and the graphics in multiplayer is not consistent with the singleplayer counter part..Low poly characters but thanks to normal mapping they have very good detail. The environments are plain and the geometry are pretty basic.

now compare that to Killzone 2.. some of killzone 2's graphic tech can also be found in crysis, such as Parallax Occlusion Mapping on texture, object based motion blur, depth of field that applies to object and on screen(Modern warfare only uses on screen depth of field which is very cheap). Volumetric smoke(acutal 3D smoke, not flat planes that animates that looks like smoke) 32 Players online while still maintaining the graphical tech I listed above. Havok Physics engine, Differed rendering that provides pixel based lighting, real lights that casts shadows and lightens up geometries, not painted lights on textures.

so yea.. Halo 3 and Halo ODST isn't a graphical powerhouse.

[wages of sin]

The question is, do you even know what they mean?

KZ2 is being compared to a game that came out years before, has better online with a far superior developer support and way more players. Don't get me wrong, I purchased my PS3 for KZ2 but KZ2 is no Halo. They are two totally different games that happen to be in the same genre. It's just that one can't compete with the other.

Time will tell, but, the proper comparison should be between KZ2 and Reach. For all intents and purposes, it was Sony and it's supporters that pitted KZ2 against Halo3 (again an older game) and H3 won. There are a lot of fancy tricks going on in KZ2 that look nice, but when all is said and done, they are just that...tricks.

Four player online/offline co-op. Games saves. Forge. Pictures that can be tailored to make any image you want, etc., does KZ2 do that? Sure KZ2 may allow you to have more players online but, in the end, does that help the gameplay at all? Since when does more players equal better? (as MAG is about to find out). Halo3 has multiple vehicles that can be used online and off. What about KZ2? Other than scripted moments during gameplay, does it have vehicle support? Make no mistake, KZ2 is an awesome game...it's my back up FPS (I'm not a big MW2 fan) but when you break it all down I will argue-as you and others will in the opposite-that H3 is the better game and by a significant amount.

You started to mention different technical affects and minus art style, I would argue that H3/ODST still does a better job of pulling off technical feats. The textures in H3 are better, as is the lighting. Again, not talking about art style, that's more subjective, but taking into consideration that H3 is an a game built with less time and understanding of the new architecture (ODST being a newer build of that engine) H3 does more. Of course we are entitled to our opinions but for me, I don't see the vast technical leap in between the two; especially when one offers you so much more.

However, this goes far beyond H3 and KZ2, it's a systemic issue between two consoles and frankly, I think it's silly. Both systems have games that from a visual standpoint are amazing. UC2 looks amazing in every way, it's one of my favorite games, but is it really that much of a leap ahead of games such as AC2 (a better game imo) or Batman? Not really. Sure, it looks better-it's an exclusive- but I've yet to see anything on the PS3 or the 360 for that matter that has made me say "damn I wish system X could have visuals like that". It simply isn't the case. I've yet to see anything on PS3 that made me say "that can't be done on 360" and ultimately, does it matter? You can have the best looking game in the world but if it's not fun then...

Take for example Heavy Rain. It's a beautiful game but, Alan Wake looks just as good. I'll get both so that's a moot point. GOW3 looks amazing and for games that have yet to be released, has no equal, but it's not the be all end all that some have hyped it to be. I think Dante's has the potential to look just as good once all is said and done. Remember, this is the Dead Space team, a game that was poo-pooed in the beginning but in the end had polish that is rarely seen for a multiplat. That and I prefer the art style for it (let alone the story and the gameplay).

In the end, a lot of this is opinion...no one is right, no one is wrong, it's your opinion...as this is mine. There are games on the PS3 that definitely stand out and I'm proud to be a PS3 owner. However, preference aside, I'm equally as proud to be a 360 owner. We as gamers should challenge ourselves to be more like the Naughty Dogs and Bungie's of gaming. Instead of trashing each other and talking mess, they congratulate, motivate and help each other.

Wouldn't that be nice for a change?...

@Hakis,

Your entitled to your opinion but considering the time when it came out and what it offers as a total package, yes, they are powerhouses. Wide open vistas, great use of color and lighting...hate all you want but the Halo games (while mostly known for other things) are far from ugly and have with stood the test of time well.

@Organic,

Fair enough, perhaps I did go off course; going more into the technical feats rather than the visuals. However, the point still remains. KZ2 isn't the be all end all graphically that it's made out to be and for a game that's much older, it does just as good a job visually while doing more technically.

You say you know what all those things mean, and frankly, I don't really have a reason to disbelieve you. However, all you've done is make a laundry list of things you know to be in the game. What do they do? What exactly is about these technical feats that support these "vastly superior" visuals you speak of? Are they incapable of being done on the 360? More specifically Reach? KZ2 does do some amazing things visually. My point is that H3/ODST do as well and when looking at the finished products, I give the nod to the Halo games. Nothing more, nothing less. You back backhandedly make an insult saying that I didn't support anything with facts. Again, fair enough, a lot of what I stated isn't from a wiki listing tech features. However, a laundry list of things with no explanation isn't either and simply stating that you know frankly isn't very reassuring.

I'm out of bubbles and interest at this point and I'd rather play the games I love than talk about them. Again, feel free to disagree and take bubbles.

@Organic,

If we're now going to argue art style than again, I give the nod to Halo. I've been gaming since the early 80's so yes, I know a good looking game when I see one. I have an HD and run 5.1 optic outs if that makes you feel better. It's funny that you mention that because I don't need all of that to make H3/ODST look great; it works either way, however I digress.

Contrary to your belief, not everyone goes running around "shooting" without taking in the environment. KZ2 does have great things going on but more than H3/ODST? Take for example in ODST, the highway scene towards the end when your watching the Covenant cruiser moving towards the desert with all the Banshees flying about. That didn't look awesome to you? In H3, Lost Highway I believe, pulling up in a Warthog out before you heading towards that same desert you see Covenant ships, swirling clouds etc., that's not impressive? Your encounters with the Scarabs, sub-par I suppose as well?

Whatever dude, to each his own. I'm done. No hard feelings just my take. Keep gaming not hating.

[hakis86]

COME ON man... graphical powerhouses?
That is the best joke I've heard this year! :D

And please tell me where Gears of War is NOT as dark as KZ2.

[OrganicMachine]

dude It doesn't take much out of the hardware to customize pretty pictures on your halo avatar. that's not very taxing at all. you're spinning it around again, you claimed Halo 3 and ODST is a powrehouse, I argued back that it's not and now you have a paragraph that talks about Halo 3's gameplay mechanics (vehicles, four player co-op, etc..)

and you're throwing that opinion is right and wrong but hey, there are educated/fact based opinions and there are opinions that are your personal thoughts. those opinions goes to different situations. i backed up my opinion with facts that I've gathered while following Killzone 2's development. You back up your fact by ..um.. I dunno really, you didn't back it up that well.

and yes I know what those words means.

stop flipping the switch between Gameplay and Graphics, you opened this with graphics(halo ODST and Halo 3 are graphical powerhouses, remember that?)

edit:

now we talk about artstyle? seriously? I think you haven't played Killzone 2 enough to notice that the art style and detail far surpaces that of Halo 3 and ODST. if you take a moment out of shooting and look around the environments there are things there that 99% of gamers out there tends to overlook because they are placed well that it blends in into the experience. Posters of propaganda, lightning, moving clouds, lighting that brings color on an otherwise grey and brown color pallete, the depressing and oppressed atmosphere of Helghan. The artstyle even translate well into the multiplayer.

Halo 3 and ODST is able to pull off split screen because The special effects they are using is not really taxing the system. and since it's multiplayer, they manage to degrade the quality enough to run it smoothly. and the resolution of the game is sub HD so there's a lot of room for memory.

Halo 3's texture is best? really? play Killzone 2 please and this time use an HDTV and an HDMI. the colors isn't colorfull but if you're throwing the Art styl arguement then look at the level of detail the textures provide for Killzone 2. If you've played enough games and tinker around with them enough, then you can see a difference, coming from a PC stand point where we have the option to downgrade the graphics to the point where it looks like a PS2 game or maximize it, I can tell good quality textures from bad.

[retrofly]

Same enemies, same weapons, same characters. The only difference is it looks like Gears of War 1 now instead of a cartoon. I didnt get ODST, and doubt I'll be getting REACH either.

[Daz]

This guy posted old magazine grabs and degraded the quality even more than the originals
These are just grabs from the first screens from Insider already released on the web. Looks like somebody posted these grainy washed out smashed pictures taken of pages from the Magazine on purpose. I have the Magazine the game looks stunning these pics look nothing like the game.
http://img.skitch.com/20100...

http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

"No source is given but the images seem to have stemmed from allgamebeta.com. All images carry the EB Games logo in the bottom left but it seems that the EB Games websites doesn’t mention the images."
http://haloreachinfo.com/

[spinbot_lv1]

uhgh!these pics shows very low standard graphics.better to wait a gameplay footage.

[stonecold1]

the i can wait till reach arrives bungie has never let me down

[faraany3k]

You all know i was wrong in my TITLE. Be honest people.Does this look good for 2010 standards.

[Blackcanary]

The mobs in that look very cartoony and there facial expressions are very animated nice lol.

I'm never gonna buy this game but nice all the same.

[DigitalAnalog]

That's a lot of time to be improving right now.

-End statement

[bunfighterii]

true that

[Lehman Brothers]

hm....

[SaberEdge]

I can't believe the amount of PS3 fanboys trying to downplay Halo Reach. It looks amazing and if you have the magazine the screenshots look even more impressive.

[G-Ham]

The video shown off at this years GOTY awards was far superior to the graphics shown here. I wouldnt say these were Direct feed, the resolutions are rubbish, Ive always loved Halo but these screens look no more exciting than Halo 3's shipyard levels. (yawn) Ile be looking foward to some HD Screens and some development time gone into this game. Reach has some serious potential. But for now, Bring on the Big Sister. xD

[Official General]

MS seem to think by churning out new Halo after Halo titles every so often in the year or next will guarantee them a lion's share of the console software/hardware sales. I think they gotta be careful and realise that there is a chance that many gamers may actually begin to get very tired and bored of the same/similar Halo stuff pretty quickly. It's already showing in some of these posts here. MS really are milking Halo a bit too much this generation

[Lehman Brothers]

damn iam disappointed if this is MSFTs KZ2 answer :(

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Wow this game looks like a55.

[borgome]

How can you say that about a game that will be inserted into your very own private parts?

[newarknj360]

dammit, give the game time to come out wtf is all this uncharted , killzone comparison b.s the game is released this fall, and by the way the 360 can do ps3 graphics but forget graphics if the gameplay is wack, this is gonna be game of the year

[bunfighterii]

If 360 can do it why haven't they after 4 years?

[Pistolero]

What exactly are ps3 graphics?...Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2?...in that case the ps3 didn't even have ps3 graphics until last year lol...Gears 2 surpassed Uncharted 1 and now Gears 3 and Halo Reach will surpass Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2.

[mcnablejr]

when this game comes out, outselling EVERYTHING on ps3, theres no doubting the gameplay will once again destroy all games on rival consoles. silly jealous girls.
Bought uncharted 2 , (like i said i wouldnt), yup i was right multiplayer is stale.
The comments here look like 90 percent ps3 fanboys, jealous much?

[CWMR]

-Yeah, you know they are jealous when they pour into an article like this. They know Halo Reach looks good and that is why they go to such extreme lengths to post their ridiculous FUD.

This game will be one of the best looking games and certainly one of the best playing games. It is going to be a massive release and I can't wait.-

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

CoD took away all the mindless FPS lovers. Halo won't sell anymore.

[starchild]

MicrosoftXBOX360, I've gotten that marked down. I'll come laugh at you later.

[bunfighterii]

Looks like halo 3 but with earthier tones. Gears of War 2 looks way better....

[ChickeyCantor]

I would say GoW2 looks better due the use of color and artstyle.
But thats all.

[EVILDEAD360]

Last year's hate?

Left 4 Dead 2..end of the year? Nothing but love and a case of STFU

Forza 3..Definative hate..end of year? Sells 2 Mill+..GT5 pushed back to E310

Call of Duty: MW2? Showed the 360 skew..met w/ nothing N4G hate..Biggest game on earth at the moment? Biggest case of STFU I've seen in years

Prediction..

HALO REACH..stops the earth from spinning when it released..fans buy in droves..consoles sells spike...record numbers..Game is amazing..
Looks back at all the comments from a few pages of a magazine scans..

and simply LMFAO

Evil

[BLADE_X8]

Man, I will be honest...I am PS3 only this generation. However, 360 owners act as if only Playstation gamers are hating on MS, and that's false. MS suckered me out of 5 360's...FIVE OF THEM! Halo is a fun game, but MS is banking on fools to not ask for the bar to be raised...and continue to milk this tired saga. At least, put it on the next Xbox, with real HD in mind! (I don't want to hear the excuses...Ms is charging HD prices, so they should deliver HD gaming!)

Playstation fans don't talk bad about Nintendo, or PC gamers....want to know why? These 2 (to name a few) have not treated gamers, parents, or venders like crap. and you can talk about Halo: ODST, forza, and Left 4 Dead all you want....Xbox owners don't even realize that they were charged $60+ bucks for DLC/Expansion stuff. (LOL) XBL must be the cyber version of crack or herion. Forza did sell well, but the GT:Prolouge still outsold this game! (and that's not even the full version...ha,ha) Also, are you really going to compare L4D and ODST to Ucnahrted 2 and Killzone 2?...SERIOUSLY??? You know damn well if these were on the 360..they would have easily sold around 8 million each. (360 is full of shooter fans, little kids, racist, and mind controlled gamers...who actually belive that their XBL fees has nothing to to with the warrenties that MS got you fools believing it's "FREE".) Wake up! PS3 has dropped more AAA exclusives in 1 year, than MS has in the 360 entire life cycyle. On deck: another Gears, Fable, Mass Effect( This game does look good though), Halo, GTA DLC, and fake Resident Evil. (Alan Wake)

[tudors]

don't waster your time with those guys, remember some of the KZ2 pics that 1st came out, there were some poor ones, thanks but I will wait for the HD versions.

[GeoramA]

360 just can't compete with PS3.

The sad thing is, M$ had the bots convinced this was going to look amazing...haha

[starchild]

PS3 can't compete with the 360.

95% of the multiplatform games are better looking on the 360 and exclusives like Halo Reach and Alan Wake also show the PS3 falling behind.

[SUPREME RULER]

this game looks like crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any garbage with halo name on it, fanboys of 360 will buy!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD OF WAR PUTS THIS GAME TO SHAME 10 FOLD, HEY XBOX CHEERLEADERS YOU JUST MADE GOD OF WAR GAME OF THE YEAR LOL.

[Pistolero]

No that's PS3 fanboys...they will SAY they will buy anything on the ps3 and act like it is the coolest thing ever as long as it is a ps3 exclusive...then the games often come out and aren't that good and ps3 fans don't even buy them. And um...God of War 3 does not put this to shame...GOW3 is not even that impressive....WAY less than the hype would make you believe.

[GeoramA]

Looks exactly like the other Halo games, so it probably won't be in HD either.

:(

[horndog]

courtesy of Bungie. Whatever.

[Munky]

Found some similar pics in terms of body position and distance to the "cam" for both Reach and KZ2. Considering Reach is almost a year away, and the their is a obvious difference in art direction, the game seems to be shaping up pretty good so far.

http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

compared to this

http://www.ps3attitude.com/...

or....

http://item.slide.com/r/1/1...

compared to this

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

Things to remember:

1) The KZ2 screens are of the final product
2) REACH screens are from the pre-beta build
3) The KZ2 screens are of a game which had been in development for over 4 years (2005 to 2009).
4) REACH has basically one more year to go before its shipped.

[hoops]

Anyone can cherry pick screens. You did here lol
But saying that based on the screens you choose, you would have to be blind to say Killzone looked better based on your picture comparison.

[Munky]

That was my point... At this stage of development, the screenshots of REACH are comparible to the screenshots of the final build of KZ2.

And about the "cherry picking" screenshots, I chose the ones that IMO were the best ones, not the opposite.

[Pistolero]

Hey Munky thanks for getting some screenshots that were at least kind of similar...I agree that Halo Reach has better graphical quality based on all the screenshots. You know what though...if you look at the full size version of that Killzone 2 screenshot you realize even more how crappy the textures are... http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

[gamer2010]

For those people talking about Resistance this Warhawk that... just stop. Those games look like crap and don't even compare to Halo 3 graphically, so what is the point?
No PS3 game does as much as Halo 3 does and still manage to look as good as it does.
Halo Reach will be a real technical marvel.

[pcz]

Just looks... Geeky!

[ChickeyCantor]

Am I the only one who feels offended to actually be here?

I mean this game looks good...its just when i read some of these comments on how "stunning" it looks i just wanna take out an uzi and shoot you people with it.

Like i said the game looks good, but its nothing special =/.
Its like as if people are blinded. Im not hating halo reach, Ps3 fans propably are. But seriously, why are people making such a fuss out of this one?

The environment look like they always have since the first game.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

[starchild]

That's how I felt going into the GOW3 screenshot articles. I don't see what people think is so amazing about that game, aside from art direction. From a technical angle it is above average, but nothing too special.
Nevertheless, I didn't even bother leaving my thoughts.

[Rowsdower]

i skipped odst but I will buy this

and please enough with KZ2 comparisons

360 only owners dont care about KZ2, in fact going by sales a majority of PS3 owners dont care about KZ2

if your like me and you own both consoles you can put aside all this stupid fanboy sh*t and just be happy with all the cool games coming out this year.

I am looking forward to:

mass effect 2
bioshock 2
Dantes Inferno
Aliens vs Predator 3
heavy rain
BF:BC 2
God of War III
Red Dead Redemption
Splinter Cell Conviction
Crackdown 2
3d Dot Heroes
FF 13
Alpha Protocol
Max Payne 3
Fallout Vegas
Alan Wake
Saints Row 3
Mafia 2
Batman AA 2
Dead Rising 2
Brink
Halo Reach
Last Guardian
Rage
Castlevania: Lord of Shadows
Dead Space 2
GT5

[mcnablejr]

my ps3 is covered in dust =D

[baum]

Who buys a console to NOT use it? Retard.

[pcz]

Plastering the surface of every polygon with 'photo-realistic' texture maps doesn't make good graphics.

It looks old fashion.

Just proves the developers have no clue what makes good art design.

[2cents]

lol, And you do?

[pcz]

Even stevie wonder could see those graphics are horrid.

You don't have to be an art critic to see that.

[Pistolero]

Uh huh sure...you're crazy, those graphics look amazing...I'd like to know which graphics you think look amazing...and please don't say GOW3.

[hoops]

Thia game will be HATED by Sony fanboys. They are all the ones saying the game looks crap or average when in fact the game looks amazing.
This reminds me EXACTLY how MS fanboys reacted when Killzome 2 was released. They all said it looked average etc.
In otherwords, the opinions of fanboys from all sides mean little as they have no credibility at all because they are biased.

[gameraxis]

i wonder what kind of crazy mechanics the armor pieces are going to offer.

[Memo-Xen x3100]

Played Halo 3 already and it was better than I was expecting. Actually looking forward to this, too bad it's not coming out till the end of the year. Oh well, Heavy Rain, GOW3, Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 should be able to tide me over, I hope.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I think the characters looks awesome so thats the good part, everything else... not so much.

Lets wait to see something close to release though be before we judge ok?

[Oner]

More confirmation that Halo = Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

http://img707.imageshack.us...

http://img12.imageshack.us/...

http://img696.imageshack.us...

http://img641.imageshack.us...

[mcnablejr]

for whoever trawled around looking for those images.

[spinbot_lv1]

http://img707.imageshack.us...

uh! chickens? turkey? with guns?

[Oner]

@ mcnablejr ~ 2 things to simply shut you the F up

http://tinyurl.com/yadcdgt ~ then click images, not very complicated (well at least for some)

http://tinyurl.com/2c9np ~ this really proves you are an idiot

[aviator189]

I'm just crossing my fingers for a brutal, bloody, and story-driven single-player.

[borgome]

Looking good, PS3 fanboys are going to be jelous of this one.

[bigjclassic]

And to those saying this beats KZ2??
Remember KZ2 has tons of action in the backgrounds, weather effects, destructible environments, Sharp enemy AI, killer physics and killer sound. Something I have yet to see even in UC2.

Go online play Visari's Hammer and the Train stage then come back here then talk about graphics.

I am not a big Halo fan, however Halo is fun to play and I look forward to playing Reach.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Sharpy enemy AI? No sorry man but that is definitely not true. Don't make me find a youtube video of the horrible AI.

[Renewman]

Great character models but overall the game just doesn't look like much if an upgrade besides the Jackals and freaky looking crow things. I understand Halo isn't much about graphics but as a flagship Microsoft game I expected way much more. 360 fanboys, stop trying to hype up the graphics because they don't look like much right at the moment. PS3 fanboys, stop trolling and recognize progression. Yes it's not Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 quality yet but it has improved. So stop it.

[yoghurt]

If these screens are real, then unfortunately it looks like the 360 has hit it's peak in graphical ability. Now i know it's not just about graphics, and fair enough, the gameplay may be amazing, but to me Bioshock 2 looks better than this and it's a multiplat.

Oh well, time will tell I guess

[strickers]

I'm gonna try and stay out of fanboy territory here but....I'll say I'm not a Halo fan,never have been.I own all 3 systems and I do PREFER my PS3 by a margin.After seeing the video I nearly believed they'd found some extra 360 power magically hidden but this looks like the truth.The graphics look better than the weak,even at the time,Halo 3 BUT they are still a long way short of KZ,UC2,GOW3,Heavy Rain.I think this year will basically prove what many of us knew(despite what some devs claim),the PS3 has more power and those that play both systems do notice it.It's bigger than many "experts" have claimed and it's growing.
Halo/360 fans will be happy as ever and love the new graphics(although I think they've avoided some earlier Halo comparisons by changing the colour palette)and multi format owners and PS3 fans will remain unmoved by 360 exclusives graphics.I'm not talking about anything other than tech.No mention of gameplay.

[2cents]

Someone call a WAAAH-mbulance

260 comments lolz.

Do I smell fear?

[Figboy]

and i'm most certainly more into my PS3 than my 360, but this game is looking really good.

it's nice to see a 360 game not hamstrung by the aging Unreal Engine 3.

and Reach looks markedly better than Halo 3, in particular the character models.

yes, game play is what matters most, but like film and comic books, games are a visual medium as well, and when the visuals are on a top level, it just adds to the game play experience.

i mean, the game play of a RE4 or Shadow of the Colossus were certainly top notch, but nobody complained that the visuals were phenomenal.

this whole, "i'm trying to make myself seem extra sophisticated and deep because i tout game play as the most important aspect of a game over graphics" is kind of silly. if i can have both great game play and great graphics, i WANT it. so far this generation, we are capable of both. not all developers can put out an effort on the level of Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, but it's no exaggeration to say that many devs this generation have been taking the easy way out *cough*Activision*cough*

Halo: Reach is looking rather good, truth told, and i'm willing to give it a try. i absolutely LOVED the first Halo, and even though i dropped out after part 2 (though i did play a little of 3 when my roommate had it), i know that Bungie is a great developer, and makes some good Halo games (how i wish they'd make a new IP though, truth told; maybe something along the lines of Oni, but naturally with more polish).

[devilhunterx]

ARGHHH BLOOM!!!!!!!!!!

[HINDERIZATION]

I lol'd :D

[tomass]

Although its fair to use benchmark games like kz2 to positivly compare graphics, does it really matter??!... theirs 2 types of people in this thread - haters and those that enjoy halo and want to see an improvement. xbox is not ps3 and therefore people are not expecting kz2 graphics (maybe gears)... halo fans love the gameplay and expect bungie to do new things every game and will confidently buy the game regardless of how the graphics turn out cus they know they'll have fun with this game for HOURS.. it should be no different than comparing racing and fighting games when it comes to console exclusives cus u know your not going to get the same results. half the comments in here are no more mature than kids that brag their dads are stronger. they need to leave and go enjoy PLAYING kz2. halo fans know they'll be playing this game a lot and will forget about the graphics just like any other game with solid gameplay. it really sucks when its the otherway around when your marvelling at incredible graphics but u have to put the controller down cus u can't stand to play the game. halo fans are not insecure like that, most of us are CURIOUSE and realistically know we'll get better graphics in 3 yrs, except our expectations are fair... better screenshots will be released but more importantly more anouncements will come on what has changed to improve an already great game... its hard to fix what aint broke so its interesting to see where bungie will go from halo 3, any fan of the game will tell u graphics are a bonus! If ur that into graphics and care soooo much then go spend ur time more wisely jizzing in ur pants to avatar or go talk to ur ps3 friends about how much better ur system is. u will feel better about yourself and maybe get some sleep. most xbox owners don't care cus our expectations are more realistic ;) and know we'll get a great game.

[boss_killa]

modern warfare 2 looks better than this.

and thats not saying much.

[poeo]

some screens look great (nicely detailed character models), some pretty bad (look at environment geometry, looks rather low-poly compared to many games out now).

and i'm not feeling the art style at all.

but then again.. i've never been into Halo, i guess they're not trying to get new fans but rather keeping the current fanbase happy. which is not a bad thing since the series has sh*t tons of fans.

[SUPREME RULER]

this the best the 360 is suppose to offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

this the power of the 360!!!!!!!!!!!! well at least there natal lol

[Heartbroken-Menace]

just a message for those that still live the past and are in denial.

[TehCell]

This game will rape everything PS3 has to offer
"bu, bu, teh uncharted, hevyyy raaain, gow3, gt5"

lol k.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

The MODS are always busy when a Halo article comes around. The smell of fear from the other side is just so strong. :)

[poeo]

yeah im mostly a PS3 fan and i really gotta man up and admit it.. i am really really afraid of Halo!

in the sense that... it will keep spawning even more mindless space marine shooters.

i have the same frightened and confused attitude towards this as i have towards something like Wii Play, which is: "why do people keep playing this?!"

[wingman32x]

They look pretty good. I can tell the graphics have improved somewhat from Halo 3. That being said, I won't be buying Reach. I never was a Halo fan, and I like more arcade-like shooters such as unreal tournament 3. And it's not like Reach needs my help lol.

[The Iron Sheik]

The article proves that the 360 fanboys are not only delusional but blind as well. Look at the sad blind bots who think this looks better than Killzone 2. I'm sure if you fools keep saying that you might even believe it someday.

Better get your fallback "teh sales" argument ready bots because graphically this game and all 360 games can not compete with PS3 exclusives.

[Obama]

well they are delusional to the point in thinking ME2 looks as good as UC2. Like I have said before, if that is true, that all gaming sites will be talking about this already. Same can be said to Alan Wake and SCC.

[Dead_Cell]

Never been a fan of Halo and if this game follows the same train I won't like it either, but I would be lying if I said that it didn't look nice.
The only problem I still have with it is that it still looks slightly laminated on the armour and such, the lighting is good but light reflection isn't.

[aviator189]

from all of the screens, the spartan killing the elite in the dark looks the best. murder mode sounds awesome but using the d-pad to do it wouldn't be fun.

[adlt]

I didn't even think of Halo, I thought it was a Unreal Tournament 3 with some mods...

[horndog]

Even better in motion. Droids are still bitter about this game being the biggest in 2010. Sorry droids but not even GoW720p nor gt can stop that from happening. That would be like two mosqitos on an elephant. Lol.

[Pistolero]

I don't get what is so special about God of War 3...it looks good but not to the degree some of the ps3 fans are hypin it to be.

[BLADE_X8]

game still smells a lot like Halo 2, 3, and ODST to me. Nothing wrong with it, but don't see why this game could not have come out on 2009. (Other than to milk ODST, I guess.)

Anyway, it's funny to hear/see people talk about graphics, UNTIL their system is exposed. Then, it's some how about the gameplay. (LOL) I say..just play Halo and enjoy it. If people want to pay next gen prices for last gen quality...it's all good. (Your money) Killzone 2 called, said this game looks like crap! (Ha,Ha) Yea...I think I'll wait and see what the next Xbox can deliver. I like HD gaming, so I got a PS3 this gen.

[Ravenger]

I'm unimpressed by the visuals so far, but to be fare the game is not completed yet so we will just have to wait and if the visuals will live up to the hype.

[BLADE_X8]

The game is done, and has been for quite some time. Microsoft and Bungie are playing fools with this Halo stuff.

Those are the graphics of the game, which is why MS didn't want to show gameplay at Spike VGA's. (Bungie hyped that up for months...and gave out a10 second cinema scene!) It's all good though, fools will eat this up, just like the very overrated and "Halo" styled Modern Warfare 2. (Camp Fest!!) But, IW wanted to mve units, so they sold out to the little kids and people who didn't have what it took, to play World at War, COD4, and Killzone 2. I'm not hating on Halo that much, it had it's time. I am more concered to read people's comments on this "sham". Hey....MS got fools beliving that XBL is beter online gameplay service than PSN (XBL only ramped up the chatting feature. So, 360 gamers are pretty much paying for "long distance"...WHCIH IS WHAT YOUR PHONE IS FOR!!), so I'm not surprised to see Halo continue to sell.

[theone26]

I mean seriously after seeing the new GOW3 shots now these, feels like I went back a generation or two in the graphics department. Halo Reach has to reach harder if it wants to compete with the big boys in 2010 coz right now it's not even close at least in the visual department. Being an owner of PS3 and 360 I feel cheated by MS for not trying to up the ante in their product.

[NoPoint]

Whoever says Halo Reach looks better then Killzone 2 is a f*cking idiot.

[HINDERIZATION]

at least someone was smart enough to show how much better PS3 is XD