The Javelin Bans: Are They Fair?

A bug in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 allowed for players to 'self-destruct' with a combination of button presses, enabling cheap kills and essentially dismantling all element of strategy in tactical game modes. With such a popular game played by mainly kids, it's also very understandable that the cheat spread like wildfire online until it became a serious problem.

But, was the way Microsoft and Infinity Ward handled the situation with the bans really that fair? Baxy-Z take a look at the ban claims and Microsoft's T&Cs and decide whether or not it was really justified in the end.

[Smash Daddy]

i rike it. damn chetahs.

[smittyjerkins]

Banning people for messing around with a glitch is retarded and unnecessary. It was Infinity Wards fault for leaving the glitch in the game, not for people finding it and using it. It just sounds stupid that the source of the problem (Infinity Ward's incompetency) doesn't take blame for it, but instead goes and bans people that have been messing around with a glitch THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE GAME.

Also, MicroSoft are just assholes and like to be assholes whenever they can, so I bet they encouraged the banning. You know M$ just loves their fans! so much that they ban them whenever possible no matter how bad the excuse is.

[Gamehead36]

Hey Microsoft, how about you ban Infinity Ward for making games with a sh!t tonne of glitches in them that enable things like this to happen. Do you not expect curious people to use it, funny people to make funny youtube videos of it, and cheaters not to take advantage of a "glitch?" Let me reiterate it; a glitch, not a hack.

Punish Infinity Ward, not the gamers.

[GameOn]

No one was banned. A short suspension is the punishment and that seems fair to me considering these peple are cheating.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Being sold a buggy, under-tested game.

[chrisulloa]

1 day suspension does not equal ban. Idiocy is very abundant in this site.

[Anorexorcist]

Infinity Ward being basically crucified for this small bug and yet no gaming public outcry of this magnitude came when it was found that Microsoft released a console with such a great rate of default (what was the RRoD highest rate of failure? At least 54%)

Needless to say, this is getting a LITTLE out of hand. No doubt this issue will be behind everyone soon when the patch solution is released.

[Gamehead36]

Customers are PAYING money for Microsoft's online service to guarantee the ability to play online, not to be restricted to play for an amount of time because of a glitch that was bound to be fixed in a few days.

I understand Microsoft doesn't want any cheaters and that customers pay for that guarantee too, and I respect their enthusiasm towards keeping online play fair, but all this does is allow IW and other developers to put out buggy games. In return Microsoft will continue to hold the developers hand, instead of holding the developers to a higher standard, and punish players for something that in the end is the developers fault.

I mean, if there wasn't already enough issues with MW2, this probably wouldn't be as big an issue but damn I mean IW thinks they can just release a half done game, and sadly they can because the masses buy it.

[4Sh0w]

Its an exploit, a glitch is something that occurs when the user is playing the game the way the developer intended but for whatever reason the player is able to do somehting that he isnt suppose to be able to do under normal circumstances, like being "out of map" yet still able to interact with players which in some cases makes you invincible, glitches have an enormous impact on the gameplay even though the player hasnt even tried to cheat.

An exploit occurs when a player finds a normal gameplay mechanic that otherwise is a acceptable ability in the game but he combines this skill with another normal aspect of the game and "exploits" this mechanic in order to gain an unfair advantage, you'll notice that most of the time these cheaters need help to even find and pull off these exploits, no amount of game testing can rival the sheer amount of hrs and gameplay that comes from millions of gamers playing the game online with hundreds of thousands communicating back and forth every hr and discovering loopholes, its inevitable.

Name 1 highly popular online game that does not have its share of exploits. Now go to youtube and see for yourself.

Cheaters deserve the suspension.

[Anon1974]

But this game is rated M. There shouldn't be any kids playing it.

[yesah]

porn is for 18+ also, there must not be any kids watching it.

[mastiffchild]

I think his issue's really with the "mainly", though, isn't it? Obviously SOME copies of MW2 will be kids' and some porn will be watched by kids too when they can get away with it. But most? IDK about that.

[edgeofblade]

Incredible. If it isn't irrational Microsoft hate, it's irrational COD hate.

Two things: first, it's at least a 24 hour ban, but MN said it could be as big as a permaban. And second, the fix is on it's way. So, banning is a short term fix for an issue that is being permanently fixed quickly.

Both sides of this argument should be happy. The people who want IW to take responsibility... they are. The people who want immediate retribution against cheaters... they are getting it.

[DarkTower805]

Account ban = fair
console ban = not fair

How about the people that share consoles with others? Should they be punished for having dumb friends/relatives?

[lessthanmarcus]

A 1 month ban seems about right. Doesn't matter if it's in the game. It's not the way the game is suppose be played and it ruins the experience for everyone else.

Exploiting glitches is cheating. Especially a glitch like this that takes out everyone around you without you putting forth any amount of skill.

I file complaints on every sad individual that uses the javelin glitch. How about playing the game the way it's meant to be played?

[Shepherd 214]

sh!t ton of glitches? Name three and i promise i will not post in this article anymore. Almost no game ships without glitches or hiccups that require a patch, your just sour because Modern Warfare 2 is popular.

Idiots who cheat should be banned. Like Skv said, cheat in the NFL/Olympics/NBA/NHL/etc,etc,e tc, you get banned. Life lesson learned.

[DarkTower805]

Javelin glitch, elevator glitches (not sure what maps), and Afghan rock glitch. There's 3, now stop posting and leave.

This game kicks ass, but don't be blind because it's not perfect.

[edhe]

exploiting glitches is against the Live TOS, the contract that you agree to when you go onto be a gold user. It's not about what you think is right, wrong, fair or unfair it's about what was written in the TOS that you agreed with when you bought passage into the Live network.

If you break that TOS you can expect punishment more severe than the crime, as is their policy for their service.

You signed up to it, deal with it peeps.

[BI0RAPTOR]

Right or wrong?.If this is what it is going to take to stop adolescence gamers from spoiling the fun for gamers?then I am all for it.
If people want to have a laugh?then do it in there own privet lobby not in a public lobby.

[2Spock]

First off! People, people, MS is not banning people just suspension for some that have a hard time reading the article. And secondly 90% of people i have seen using it is 25 year olds, probably stoners with no jobs. And this is not a glitch it is an exploit, completely 2 different things. Don't believe me go look it up. I SAY BAN THEM ALL.

[MechaZillaTron]

Microsoft is resorting to scare tactics yet again big surprise. If there is a bug i.e. glitch, the developers are responsible for patching it. I think Sony took the correct approach without reprimanding gamers, rather waiting for Infinity Ward to come up w/ a patch. It seems eery the way Microsoft has started to sound like the former Bush admin more and more. Resorting to scare tactics and the upcoming "Shock & Awe" advertising campaign soon to be unleashed. Good Luck & Good Night.

[PS3PCFTW]

way to throw 65 dollars down the drain.

u couldve just bought mw1 and saved 40 bucks.

haha....goodjob on giving activision your money(500mill). your encouraging those lazy fuccs to charge more for less product. Good job u fuccin morons. microsoft loves idiots like you who just bend over and dont even request the lube.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

[WildArmed]

lol you cheat @ Olympics.. you get banned from the Olympics.
You cheat in NFL/FIFA/NBA you get banned.
Simple as that.
Just coz they are brats, doesn't mean they shouldn't be banned. Plus, its a nice lil' heads up on life.
You fuk with people, they will fuk you back harder lol (in this case banned)

[Zydake]

I teach my younger cousins those concepts everyday

[RockmanII7]

But they aren't techniclly cheating. They found a loophole in the system. Yes they ruin the game , Yes they are n00bs, but is it fair to ban them? IMO no, IW needs to fix this because they are the source of the problem.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

So in the Olympics and NFL and such, there is an automatic win button I can press?

That's the equivalent. Or at least a better example of it. So if I press that button, will I be banned?

[yesah]

a glitch is not a cheat. your metaphor is off.

Its like a running back in the NFL knows that the person blocking him had a broken leg a month ago and cant run to the right quickly, therefore the running back takes advantage of this and runs to the right. Would he be banned from the NFL for doing this? No.

If its completely unfair it should just be patched.

[4Sh0w]

This is an exploit not a glitch, but enough with splitting hairs. These exploits aren't new to gaming, we all used to use them back in the day to rack up extra points, beat the game faster, etc. Some were put there by the devs on purpose, intended to be that golden egg that would only be found by the most dedicated fans. Some were just oversights but it wasn't a big deal anyway, games were mostly just a singleplayer experience and if used a cheat who cares since it only affects you. Now when those with too much time on their hands or some simply by sheer luck discover an exploit which they obviously know is unfair use it to keep an unfair advantage that ruins the experience for others its going to be a problem. That's not IW's fault, a gamer who respects his fellow players would simply choose not to engage in a method that clearly doesn't allow everybody a fair shake to win based solely on SKILL LEVEL. This isn't a case of somebody being called a cheaters simply because he camps with asniper rifle, it isn't about playstyle differences, these people are straight up cheating and they know it.

[Nod]

Its like if a French Footballer / soccer-player blatantly breached the rules of the game to his advantage during a World Cup Qualifier.

Should he get away with it? He's currently being investigated and may well be banned for at least a match from the World Cup.

[Action GO FIGURE]

Keep the Javelin glitch or get rid of grenade launchers.
Take your pick.

[kaveti6616]

Option C.

- Learn how to program (check)
- Create a few lines of code that fixes the Javelin glitch while still keeping the grenade launchers (check)
- Patch the new code to millions of gamers around the world through an internet connection, thus alleviating the problem (check)

Yeah, I think they'll go with option C.

[Kushan]

Pretty sure they know how to program. To say that this glitch came about because of a stupid programming error that any novice programmer would have spotted is idiotic. As software systems become more and more complex, bugs are BOUND to happen. They don't measure an application by how many bugs are in it, but rather how many bugs there are per 1000 lines of code. In other words, it's assumed that bugs WILL happen, but what is important is that they don't happen too much.
This wont be the last bug or glitch in the game by a long shot, but that isn't IWs fault, it happens in all games.

[JD_Shadow]

It's IW's responsibility, though, to do something ABOUT it. Just because it might be tough (and with that big of a glitch on a game that a lot of people were waiting for, you need to make sure you get as much right as you can) doesn't mean they can just sit back and let everyone else cover for them when someone finds a fault.

Sony did the right thing here (though you may not have liked their decision, it was the right one). They said to IW that if they want the glitch to not be used on PSN, then they better do something about it, because it's not their problem. Of course, with how much money MS put into advertising to get people to think that this game is a 360 exclusive, they're going to make sure that they get as strict as possible.

What happens, then, when another game comes out that has a glitch like this in it? Are they going to find a way to fix it ASAP, or take their grand old time because they know big brother has their back? This is why Sony making that decision is the right one: it forces the dev to get a fix out quickly (you don't think IW would've been as quick to get this fixed if Sony did the same thing MS did, do you?).

[Kushan]

I never once said that IW shouldn't fix it or that it wasn't their responsibility, I merely stated that bugs/glitches are more certain to happen than not to happen. IW will fix it as and when they can because they're a good developer and support their games properly.
People were saying that IW needs to "learn to code" and this was my problem - they know how to code and if the people who made such statements knew how to code, they'd realise that bugs will happen no matter what.

Keep in mind, "patching" the game isn't as simple as it sounds, at least not on consoles. For the PC, it's easy to patch and throw out the fix asap, then if there's a bug, another hotfix can sort it out pretty quickly, but console patching is a whole different ball game. Both MS AND Sony has to certify the patch, which requires their own internal testing. If this testing fails for whatever reason, IW/Activision will need to pay additional certification costs (On top of the existing ones), so they'll do extra testing themselves before even submitting it. This is why the javelin glitch has been "fixed" in 1.06, but patch 1.05 has only just been released. This isn't anyone's "fault", the certification is important for a variety of reasons (Security for one, stability for another), but it will always cause delays.
Which is why MS is issuing these suspentions - to rattle the cages of anyone thinking of abusing the glitch so that while it remains unpatched, less people attempt to abuse it. It's not ideal, but it is better than letting the glitchers run riot while IW tries to get a patch out.

[Kushan]

Awww, did I hit a nerve? Here, have a cookie.

Seriously, these comment sections exist because various people have various opinions and, as crazy as it might seem, some of us actually enjoy debating those opinions.

[qwertyuiopasdfghjkl]

So yes...

[yesah]

They're

abbreviation for 'They Are'

[Panthers]

"played by mainly kids"

Reason I dont play this game. For kids and noobs.

[GameOn]

I enjoy this game but I'm neither of those.

[yesah]

Exactly what someone who sucks at the game would say.

[mastiffchild]

Oh come on! It's near impossible to suck at COD isn't it? I'm pretty average at most shopoters but the one's I'm best at are COD and Halo and totally because they're easier. It's BECAUSE I'm quite good at COD that I don't really respect it and set a lot more store by a good result when playing Warhawk or Killzone2 online-they're a far stiffer test of skill, imo, and COD just isn't-I guess at the bery top end it's the same case in any game as only a few will be AMAZING at anything no matter how easy it is to be OK. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that if you truly suck at COD you just shouldn't play FPS online ever.

[GameOn]

More like the people who disagreed with me are either kids or noobs. BTW if you're good at one fps you're good at them all because they are all pretty much the same.

[2Spock]

Thats funny considering my KDR is Killzone 2 is over 7. something but my COD KDR is only like 3. something in MW2. And usually people that say COD is noob game usually sucks balls at the game.

[Kushan]

If the bans were permanent, then I'd think it was far too harsh, however if the bans are only temporary (couple of days for most, it would seem) then I think it's fair. Its a slap on the wrist for deliberately ruining the game for others, it just so happens that the way to do it was a glitch in the game. I feel the same suspensions should be given out to ANYONE who deliberately tries to ruin someone's experience online, be it through a glitch or not.
Take, for example, those that spam the mic with rediculous noise, the racial slurs, the ones that hamper their own team, etc.
So yes, I think it's completely fair and I'm all for it, in fact I wish they did it more often.

[edgeofblade]

According to the logic that says they shouldn't be banned, "They bought the mic, they should be able to say anything into it they want."

I know. People can justify a lot of crap.

[VirusOz]

Do I think it's fair for people to get banned?

No.

Do I think people who abuse the glitch should get banned?

Yes.

[table]

so you want them to get banned even though you know it's not fair. you must really have it in for them :)

[Pandamobile]

Infinity Ward should have just got on patching it rather than getting everyone banned.

[kaveti6616]

Suspended. Not perma-banned.

I wonder what people would have said if IW did nothing. It seems this time around no matter what IW did for MW2 they were going to get attacked because they have a successful franchise on their hands. It's the same in other mediums. They got too big and a lot of people hate them. The gamers who bought the original COD games feel entitled to get exactly what they demand.

[aaronisbla]

Not sure wtf your response to him was about, as it doesn't argue or agree with his original point in the least. IW isnt catching a lot of crap cuz the game is super popular, but rather for its glitches. Two of these glitches can be game breaking, The Jav glitch makes games like headquarters unplayable.

The infinite care package glitch ( you tube if if you dont know about it ) as much tougher to pull off but it also needs to be patched out

The point pandamobile was talking about was for IW to hurry up and work on this patch instead of dropping some soft bans on people

[edgeofblade]

Again... they ARE patching it. Meanwhile, they have every right to protect their game from falling apart.

Let me re-restate it for you. IW is taking responsibility for fixing their game, just like every person opposed to the suspensions says they want. To me, sticking it to the less-than-ethical players is icing on the cake. You can go on with academic discussions about what is or isn't on the disk, discussions that will be moot shortly when a patch is required for online play. But I for one am happy that these intellectual children might think twice before exploiting a game-breaking glitch if they have to beg their parents for another $50.

The way this situation was handled ensures that A) I'll continue to support IW and buy their next game, and B) I'll renew my XBL account next year.

[blu_yu_away]

I may have felt some pity had I not played domination last night. 2-3 people on each team running around exploiting this glitch really is gamebreaking. Especially when they have unlimited sprint and just charge.

[Budg3tG4m3r]

Anything to keep the games fair. I been on Live now for 7 years and PSN for 3 months and this kind of thing can ruin a game. People glitch or cheat on every system or game as long as they can get away with it. This will at least make them think twice about cheating and relieve some stress and frustration playing this online.

[SilverSlug]

It is a glitch and exploiting it is not cheating. Its like when you play games as a kid and your friend keeps telling you to stop using a move that kills him and calls you a cheater.

How is it cheating if its in the game?

Infinity Ward should patch it, but why should someone be banned because its in the game they shipped?

[Axe99]

I reckon it's a no-brainer - if it's exploiting a glitch in an open/ranked room, that makes the game rubbish for everyone else, then they should definitely be suspended/banned. It's also better that the glitchers find out that they'll be seen as tools by everyone else as soon as possible as well. What the glitchers are doing is having fun themselves at the expense of the broader gaming population - childish, selfish behaviour - and it needs to be stopped or the game dies. I'd personally go warning then ban, and it sounds like MS might be being heavy-handed here, but one way or another it needs to be sorted. If I'm in a game and see someone glitching in game I send them a short PSN letting them know that if they want any respect on the PSN they won't glitch - so far it's worked every time.

[The BS Police]

5. How You May Not Use the Service.

exploit a bug, or make an unauthorized modification, to any software or data to gain unfair advantage in a game , contest, or promotion.

Apparently contracts are lost on people these days. We all agreed to these rules when we created our accounts, therefore Microosft can ban or suspend you for cheating.

[jack who]

what ban? thats the only way i'ev been dieing on xbl all day so weres the ban?

[krauler]

I fell victim to it a couple of times today on the PS3. Was that last patch supposed to fix it?

[DJ]

And good thing too. It's buggy, the graphics suck, and the online play constantly drops in the middle of a match. I'm surprised Microsoft is punishing their customers for Infinity Ward's sub-par product.

[Rixynator]

i think it's unfair in a way it isn't the gamers fault it was IW testers fault what the hell were they doing when in was about to hit the shelf? they just didn't bother to fix it and when the game goes out with people doing that javelin thing they wanna ban them? f*** that why don't they fire the staff who f*** up the game in the first place?

[DirtyLary]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Who cares what you people think, MS said they will ban you so it's your decision to EXPLOIT the glitch knowing that. You're all big boys now.

Most of these justifications to exploit bugs are plain stupid.

[Wile]

words of genius.

[DJ]

Why it's in the terms of usage is beyond me, since exploiting a bug that the developers overlooked isn't grounds for kicking someone off the entire service. If Microsoft is allowed to ban people when their game glitches, who knows what else they'll try? If they were suspending their usage of the game in question for a small amount of time, i might understand. But the entire service that they paid for? Come on, now.

"Hey, your game's not loading as fast as it should be, and it's holding back everyone else's experience. We're going to suspend your account until you get your disc drive fixed. By us. Now."

[Wile]

Cut and pasted from the 'Xbox Live' Terms of Use.

5. How You May Not Use the Service.

In using the Service, you may not:

* use the Service for commercial purposes (except as expressly permitted by us);
* engage in, facilitate, or further unlawful conduct;
* use the Service in a way that harms us or our advertisers, affiliates, resellers, distributors, or vendors , or any customer of ours or our advertisers, affiliates, resellers, distributors, or vendors;
* use any portion of the Service as a destination linked from any unsolicited bulk messages or unsolicited commercial messages ("spam"); or send, either directly or indirectly, any spam through the Service;
* use any automated process or service to access and/or use the Service (such as a BOT, a spider, periodic caching of information stored by Microsoft, or "meta-searching");
* use any unauthorized means to modify or reroute, or attempt to modify or reroute, the Service;
* damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Service (or the networks connected to the Service) or interfere with anyone else's ability to access or use the Service;
* resell or redistribute the Service, or any part of the Service;
* disrupt, or try to gain unauthorized access to : any account, computer, hardware, or network related to the Service;
* obtain (or try to obtain) any data from the Service or related hardware, except data that we intend to provide or make available to you;
* use the Service or related hardware to design, develop, or update unauthorized software;
* use or distribute unauthorized cheats, macros, or scripts; or
* exploit a bug, or make an unauthorized modification, to any software or data to gain unfair advantage in a game , contest, or promotion.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/l...

[Wile]

LOL @ the disagree of the simple cut and paste above. Sorry but ya can't REALLY argue FACT.

[Kyur4ThePain]

By releasing it you imply that it is in a useable state. I pay for that piece of code. The assumptions is that anything I can do with that code (unaltered) is legal and approved by you.

And now YOU want to tell people that they shouldn't be pressing certain buttons in a certain sequence?
Bite my big one! And then go fix your cr@p.

[DJ]

It's the game developer's fault for including the built-in glitch. Not the customer's for stumbling upon it.

[Axe99]

It's not the customer's fault for stumbling on it, but it's antisocial gaming to actually use it repetitively. For any gamer out there that considers using this, keep in mind that it's a great way to lose respect amongst gamers aged 16 and over. If you're just trying to impress your 12-year old mates, on the other hand, maybe do it in a private room? It's the same story with the 'flying in CoD4' glitch. Sure, it was in the code (like, everything's in the code!), but people that used it in open, ranked games are antisocial tools, plain and simple.

[retrofly]

"If you do this glitch you will be suspended for 1 day"

Once people are told they will get a suspension for carrying out the glitch then thats fair enough. If you still chose to do it, despite knowing about the suspension then they deserve everything they get, if not more!

[peeps]

regardless of the game or glitch, if ppl are glitching or cheating online they need to be reported and banned.

[Horny]

a day ban sounds good, i report every asshole I see use that.

[Serial_EDX]

Ban em all, They know they are using a glitch. And soon it will be patched, people who say that users are doing nothing wrong are just pathetic. more then likely the ones using it. Its just like all games, you can't find everything.

How would you like to sift threw 10 million lines of code and find that one letter thats wrong.

[Wikkid666]

People just need to read the MS Live code of conduct agreement. This is there. Read section 5 last bullet. You can't use a flaw of a game as unfair advantage in a game. Ban the hell out of the cheaters PERIOD! and mark them as cheaters. Like MS has in the past.

[creepjack]

This kind of behavior on Live has been out of control for a LONG time now. Something has to be done to curb it, and if it's "unfair" bans, then so be it.

It's kinda funny though, if I just simply use a legitimate weapon ingame the way it is supposed to be used and kill someone with it, then I get threatened with violence or someone saying they are gonna hack my account, but yet these same morons are the ones crying about getting banned for glitching. Karma's a bb1tch, aint it kids.

[vader1231231]

No.

[wwedx]

They should be Banned.
If it was just one time then No i have only used this glitch in split screen and it is very easy to do and is ruining the multiplayer.

[AssassinHD]

Just because you can do something, does not mean you should do it. I think the suspensions are justified.

[witchking]

I've named this little glitch the "Rocket Douche" for two reasons. 1, you're basically get cleaned out with a rocket and 2, anyone who uses the glitch is a douchebag.

We had one the other night. Everyone on our team must have known about IW and MSFT's claims of suspension, because every single one of the players on my team -- and even a couple on their team -- indicated they were filing a complaint against the player using it.

Don't be a Rocket Douche.

[GameScrubs]

What about games that have so called glitches/exploits and are part of the game. For example MVC2, CVS2 or SF.

MVC2 has glitches like fly/unlfy, infinites and juggernaut powerup glitch.

CVS2 has the roll cancel glitch and SF has kara throws.

These stuff is used in tournaments all the time and you are telling me that on xbox some schmuck is going to report me for things that are common in a community?

Then what else someone sees me do a throw loop, think it's a glitch and reports me?

What about you have a good run on trialshd and the replays get corrupted, then ppl think you cheated and report you. Is that fair?

whether the exploit is ruining the game or not is not an issue is how fast can IW get it fixed and MS approved is.

Even though everyone knows that you can test for all scenarios the question is when can you fix such problems.

I like the fact that ppl are using the glitch it makes it a top priority for IW to fix it. If it gets regulated and people use it less then they will take their time as it becomes less of an issue since the MS police has it under control.

[Gun_Senshi]

They should keep javilin "glitch"

After all it was a perfect fix for campers ruining the game

[Soco]

Is this a joke? Cheaters deserve to be banned, period! If you can't have restraint to not use a bug in the game to give you an advantage than you are a piece of garbage and deserve to be banned permanently. Not just the temporary suspensions that have been given out for this glitch. Microsoft has not done enough considering I pay for Xbox Live and the cheat free gaming that they claim to offer for my money.

[Xman1231]

banning them permanently for doing a bug or glitch is taking too far i don't understand why your so mad there fixing it clam down there always going to be cheating if you can't stand it don't play the game Period.

[Automat]

LOL people still play this game ? HAHAHA

[Pillage05]

I think Banning is a bit harsh...but they do need to fix the glitch.

[silverchode]

its getting more annoying as more people use it, they should start banning or suspending accounts on psn.

[artsaber]

1. Infinity Ward progammed the game, approved the code, and sold it to us as-is ready to use out of the box.

2. If there is a deficiency or problem discovered in the code, it is Infinity Ward's responsibility to update and patch the problem code as quickly as possibile.

3. Keep in mind that Microsoft and Infinity Ward agreed the original game was fit for sale. I recommend rotating 12 hours shifts for devs to fix this coding. They could have it patched in less than a week.

4. How about resetting stats on glitchers to ZERO... also, what keeps me from falsely reporting another XBL user as a glitcher - is it investigated?

[Xman1231]

who cares if there cheating IW is fixing it right? so it should be end of this little argument. in my opinion they get banned for the day that's Microsoft doing not IW there's no need to bash IW they made a mistake let them fix it and leave them be and if im wrong correct me.

[GAMExxOVER]

First off, No I do not use the glitch, IW is full of S***! They claim to be banning the jav glitch guys because they care about the community so much. Bull SH** This is to punish those that are exposing IW'S game programing screw up, YES the king of shooters has a FLAW, how dare you embarrass us and expose our mistake, You are now banned. Maybe IW should have put out a BETA and they could have found this glitch before release. I dont mind IW fixing glitches but dont pretend you are doing it for the gamers, You just dont want your game to look bad. If IW Gave a rats butt about its gamers they would have done something about team killers, not added a challenge and title reward for killing a hundred team mates! That right there tells you they dont have a clue. IW cares about the cash flow and positive poblicity, they dont give a S*** about the gamers. For all you still playing COD4, has IW fixed team killing yet? any auto kicks or vote kicks? or do those TK jerks still have freedom to do as they please?

For the record, I love the game, and as someone that loves to just run around and knife everyone, I should be the one hating the jav glitch, but to tell the truth I dont have a problem with it, If i see a guy with a launcher out, I just assume he may be strapped with explosives and not to walk up to him to get the kill, Not hard to avoid these guys if you just pay attention. Hell I think it adds to the sense of danger in game.

[densai]

wish sony would do the same. ban the cheating scum.

[pegger24]

so many people read the artcle. It isn't a ban, it is a small suspension for getting caught cheating, seems pretty fair to me. Don't cheat if you don't think you can handle 48 hours without a video game

[DW]

... if it was permanent it would be unfair.