Major nelson says " We have no plans for Blu-Ray on Xbox 360 "

During an interview yesterday, Steve Ballmer was asked about Blu-Ray and the Xbox 360. I wanted to clear something up. Steve was referring to Blu-Ray accessories for the PC.

[BadboyCivic360]

ya'll need to make your mind up...

[Shadow Flare]

so 360 is still using dvd's and only dvd's. How old are dvd's now?

[HolyOrangeCows]

Interviewer: "Are you gonna put Blu-ray in there?"

Ballmer: "Well I don't know if we need to put Blu-ray in there, you'll be able to get blu-ray drives, you'll be able to get Blu-ray drives as accessories"

[Elvfam511]

"I wanted to clear something up. Steve was referring to Blu-Ray accessories for the PC."

There are already blu-ray drives for pc these guys are lost

http://www.amazon.com/LG-El...

[ThatArtGuy]

Introduced in 1996, so 13 years old.

[evrfighter]

ah darn. I would have bought a 360/blu ray bundle.

Oh well I guess. I bet all the people that were lol'ing feel sheepish.

[Seferoth75]

"so 360 is still using dvd's and only dvd's. How old are dvd's now?"

How retarded.. That is like me saying.

so Ps3 is still using HD and only HD. How old is HD now? Well about 35 years old now. Time for something better dont you think?

How old something is does not define how long it will last. Sadly I am sure my point was well beyond what you can comprehend

[Parapraxis]

@ evrfighter, just got hit with a case of mistaken identity. lol.

@ Seferoth75, I'm not sure even you know what the point was that you were trying to make, but anyhow.
Something new huh, other than HD. Well I think the next thing that may catch on is 3D gaming in high def, but I bet it's a long way off...

....

...oh wait, the PS3 does 3D HD gaming.

[Nihilism]

VHS 4 lyf!

[evrfighter]

"you're such a good little MS trooper. "

I know right, considering I own a ps3 and no 360.

[Parapraxis]

why would you need 2 Blu-ray players? Also, thought you were somebody else
my bad. (bubbles for the blunder)

[Alcon]

If the Xbox gets a Blu-Ray add on it will only be for those that wish to watch BR movies, and not games, otherwise they would have to put BR in the box and not as an add on (would be to weird to have Xboxes with DVD
based games and some other on BR discs). Thats why it would only be an add on. Thats to say only for those that wish to watch some BR movies.
Well at least thats how I understand it.

[Gobot]

@1.4

Almost as old as 360 users.

[djfullshred]

yeah, DVD is about 13-14 year old technology. That was about how long VHS lasted until it was phased out by DVD. Just like when I saw a movie on VHS after getting used to DVD, movies on DVD look kinda blurry to me now after being used to blu ray.

[rockleex]

So you were going to buy a Bluray add-on for a 360 you don't have? Awesome.

Or were you gonna buy a 360 just so you could buy the Bluray add-on for it? Weird considering you already have a PS3 that could play Bluray movies AND games.

Its also funny how you bash anything PS3 and when people call you out, you claim to be a PC fan.

However, you always praise anything 360. Yet you claim to not even have the system.

Owning a PS3 doesn't make a person any less of a fanboy against that system. But I doubt you even have a PS3 anyways.

Please update your lame fanboy excuses, they never worked and they never will.

[ShadowCK]

Right, So occuring to you fanboys having blu-ray on the Xbox 360 isn't right because it's too late yet when they say blu-ray isn't on the system you decide to bash DVDs?

You guys are full of double standands.

[rockleex]

None of their games will be able to utilize Bluray or HD-DVD.

We criticize the 360 for sticking with last gen storage formats, mainly because it will hold the 360 back from fully exploiting the HD era in terms of videogames.

We also poke fun at Microsoft because they have made it clear that they'll never support Bluray on the 360. Yet here they are confusing themselves over whether they'll have Bluray add-ons or not.

[Elaine Benes]

I bet most of you didnt even read the entire article or the ones that followed.
The 360 isnt getting blu-ray, nor does it need it.

Now the xbox720(or whatever they call it) will probably have bluray, but thats atleast 2-3 years away.

[Raz]

They're caught between licensing a competitor's technology, or losing ground to it. PS3 is gaining a bigger edge, and it's only widening with this 'clarification'.

Keep up, 360... yer laggin' behind...

[The 1]

No kidding Steve never said they will for sure have Blu-ray add ons he said the solution to Blu-ray could be delivered in more than one way.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Wow. I didn't even know it was a problem.

[The 1]

The lack of full HD content on the 360 can be delivered either way. In Microsoft's opinion DD is the future. Zune video MarketPlace is a solution to a Blu-ray Drive.

Just because you don't care about full HD content doesn't mean others don't. IMO you baited me into some sort of fanboy fight. You wanted me to explain your point, which doesn't make sense with the selective reasoning.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Blu-ray is impressive, but until the prices goes down to less to around $10, I ain't buying. For the price of a blu-ray disc, you can get practically unlimited movies on netflix + streaming to your Xbox 360/PC!

Personally, I only own one Blu-Ray movie, Enter the Dragon!!!

[Jeff257]

Some Blu rays are under 10 dollars now. Also some movies are pretty cheap during their first week. Granted the price does go back up to 30 for newer movies, but as Blu Ray becomes the choice for consumers the price will go down even more. I actually just got Transformers:ROTF from Wal Mart for 19.96 on tues. Also to use netflix on the 360 you still have to pay for Live and even on PC it doesnt do HD. Blu Ray just doesnt have any competition when it comes to the best picture and sound quality right now.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

You bring up some valid points, but I pay for Live regardless so that is not an issue. However, for the price of one Blu-Ray + change (due to Live subscription) you can rent many movies and get the streaming service.

Unless you have to own the movie on blu-ray, it is a no brainer. Netflix is a better deal!

I find that I own gazillion DVD's now and I never watch them.... Should have saved my money!

[Elaine Benes]

and how many times are you going to watch transformers?
i usually wont watch a movie more than 2 times, and even if i do, its not everyday.
Netflix and Zune Marketplace are a much better value than buying discs.

People always say "but how can you build a library?"
um...i have recovered my account at alot of my relatives homes, and when i go to Netflix, I still have access to the same huge library of great movies. With DD's I dont have to worry about scratched discs, lost discs, or people stealing my discs. Plus, I dont have to worry about not having a certain movie, they are all there, and what isnt(rare), can be found on Zune marketplace.

But I still torrent movies on a regular basis(the ones that arent out yet), and stream them via Tversity.

[Theoneneo81]

bu bu but
Upscale DVD is better!

[Saaking]

So do I believe this guy or the CEO of Microsoft? I think the CEO's word holds more power. This is just damage control.

[Guitarded]

In the end you will just bash Microsoft either way,so does it really matter. Just as I will bash Sony. The difference between us is, I bash Sony because they cost me money with the 90 day warranty PS2 DRE crap and customer service laughing at me when I asked to have my PS2 repaired after 150 days. Twice! Then used the money from all those resales to put out a $600 Blu-ray player disguised as a game player that is just now getting games worth the now $300 price tag. You on the other hand bash Microsoft because they stole market share from your beloved Sony. How sad are you Sadking?

[Saaking]

That's why you hate Sony? Yet you love MS even though they overcharge for everything, charge for stuff that should be free/included in the system, deliver no good games, and has given you the most failure prone electronic in history? Don't make me laugh.

[wuwuwu]

Sorry, did you just say that the PS3 had better games?!

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[MetalGearRising]

1080p streaming on xbox live is way better than Blu-Ray the picture quality is unmatched by any thing including Blu-Ray. So u ps3 fan boys stick to last gen media while i will be watching 1080p stream.

[Theoneneo81]

yeah um try again.

[Theoneneo81]

I have seen 1080P Streaming/Blu Ray and imo Blu ray is better Streaming is Limted to what your IP can do and since the average household mbs is probally 3-5 MBS that doesnt come close to what blu ray can produce.

[Sunny_D]

You do know that not everyone will be able to stream 1080p based on their connections right? HAHAHA! Ms alienating their consumers just like the arcade skus.

[ZombieAutopsy]

near my house to get an 8mbps connection you have to pay at the least $100 a month, so yea i think most would rather go with blu-ray.

[bunbun777]

way better huh? boy oh boy and here i thought the 1080p from a blu ray was one of the best-- but if you "stream" the 1080p it gets even better? do tell MGR-- i am all ears....

Are there extra rainbows? or do all of the streams include subliminal flashes of Master Chief flexing?

[krouse93]

Go F off.

your unintelligent fanboy drivel is pure nonsense and BS!

Because even with 1080P streaming you can't use full 24fps 1080P Blu Ray and you can't use 5.1 surround or 7.11 surround sound in DTS or Dolby Digital HD or even close to that quality quit your BS!

[kaz-hirai]

oh MGR you come up with the biggest Sh*t ;-D!!!!

Dont worry you will probably get your blu ray just like you did with HDMI and your 1080p which was on the PS3 from the start because we all know MS cant keep up with technology as their 54% failure rate machine proves ;-D!!!!

You stick to your upscalled DVDs streaming service !!!

[dkgshiz]

Sorry you lose.

[Elven6]

The original Gizmondo article was a bit misleading as well, the PR rep clarified Balmer's statement giving it rumor status, but the title still implied it was "set in stone".

I wouldn't be surprised if Balmer was thinking about something else (like Windows perhaps?), he seems like the type of person who might not be very into that division in comparison to the other ones at Microsoft.

[Arsenic13]

He never said it. People need to read (in this case listen) to what Balmer ACTUALLY said. Gizmodo made a view catching title from a misunderstood statement.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

hmmmm

who cares

[darthv72]

if they do...they do.
if they don't...they don't.
it doesnt stop me from playing games and watching movies on both ps3 and 360.

[OpenGL]

I cannot see the benefit for Microsoft of releasing a Blu-ray attachment. It will make the standard Xbox 360 SKU look inferior to the PS3 if you have to buy this extra hardware seperately, and games wouldn't be on Blu-rays anyways. I already own both systems and play Blu-rays on my PS3, so a Blu-ray add-on for the 360 has no value to me.

A commenter by the name of kk1r suggested that Microsoft release a dashboard update that allows for the use of 3rd party USB Blu-ray drives. That would be a pretty awesome move in my opinion, although there would still be the issue of licensing Java on the 360. It is very unlikely that Microsoft would ever consider such an approach.

[Dirk Benedict]

It would be a shame if someone believes Nelson. They were clearly talking about the flopbox in the interview when the question came up.

I can smell damage control from here.

[Guitarded]

except Sony farts!

[MetalGearRising]

Don't preach me your crap PS3 and Blu-Ray are both things which are not required because xbox360 is more than capable as a Multi-Media device which can stream High Definition 1080p native movies also plays State of the Art High Definition Games which have won numerous awards from Numerous web sites and companies as being the people choice for home console. and just thinking about it this is just the beginning with updates hitting soon the onslaught of the competition is just beginning.

[Theoneneo81]

are you just exaggerating or just total oblivious on to what your typing.

[maverick1191]

you xbox fanboys are all the same you dont know what blu ray is and how it looks. Blu ray owns in movies compared to HD even in 1080p and unless you have a good connection you are going to get kinda fast stream.

Plus you do know the ps3 can do 1080p streaming? Go onto a movie site and watch a movie in 1080p you get same results

ps3 fans have been streaming HD movies from the browser for years

as the months go on the 360 is becoming more and more outdated all because it doesn't have blu ray and thats why your games aren't matching the likes of Uncharted 2 yet us ps3 owners have to suffer with downgraded multi plats because it has to go onto your DVD

[Anorexorcist]

I can seriously envision the idiot behind the username MetalGearRising trying to hold back the tears running down his cheeks as he vehemently types those ridiculous messages to help keep up the good fight and the good future prospect for his one and only Big Daddy Microsoft.

[The 1]

1000 fanboys wiping their foreheads in a sign of relief. We all know they were threatened by this attacking the 360 to cover it up.

[Waldex_Encore]

Yes... indeed i give you a point here.

Kill the stupid 360 is no easy task... (not taking in consideration that the stupid thing actually kills itself 52.4% of the time, but that is off discussion)

It has a year in advance over the PS3, it was cheaper most of the time, so it has a bigger install base, and im not gonna lie, even if we know that is inferior, it surely packs some nasty punch in the graphics department.

So, giving it the option of having Blu-Ray would be a devastating blow over my console, simply because with that, it can make some "exclusives" go 360 without doubt, i dont think that people at sony are THAT naive to give it the oportunity to take advantage of blue-ray, even now, that is still more difficult to program for the PS3, developers would simply keep the same trend to give inferior ports to PS3 if they have the option to use the same storage for both devices.

So yes, im motherfvcking happy that that white piece of sh!t will not have Blu-Ray support, with it, developers will choice my console over the competition to code for because they will have more space to pack their sh!t in it.

[AliTheBrit19]

What did I say?

"bu..bu.b balmer said it so it must be true!"

Knew it was Bullsh*t

[Saaking]

Ballmer is the CEO of Microsoft. I think I'll go with what he said even if I do hate the guy

[LtSkittles]

But...but Ballmer is the Ceo, and Major Nelson is more for Xbox Live.

[AliTheBrit19]

^^ Fair point..

But this is balmer, seriously its balmer..the guy is off his damn rocker

And Major Nelson holds more power when it comes to Xbox 360 imo.

If I was to trust anything said about the 360, it would be nelson over balmer any day.

[KILLERAPP]

So no blue ray Dark knight for the 360 owners which is sad.

[ReBurn]

I have a 360 AND I have Dark Knight on Blu-Ray. It's a great Blu-Ray, too.

[Saaking]

MS has admitted defeat. the end of the 360 is coming.

[wuwuwu]

Id hate to be you guys. All u care about is how much u hate xbox or ps3. Xbox obv has better games, no arguement. But yu guys clearly have no lives. Saying, "finally, failbox or xbot, is falling! Hoorah!" U really are the stupid nerds of today. I was shown this arguement thru a friend who was lughin his a** off at it. Is hilarious. People actually talk about how lame u people are. Joke tho. Being nerdy wont get you laid! Sorry but THATS the truth!

No offence, jus a reality check yeh

[THE DUKE]

I agree why do you waste your time defending these companies, its not like you control them or anything, they dont give a sh!t about gamers as long as they get $$$

[KILLERAPP]

I do believe that there will never be a blue ray add on because if they do it will make MS look weak in terms of hardware compared to the PS3 since has it already built in customers will see the ad on as a disadvantage when you can already buy a PS3 with a lower price and already have it. MS can’t look weaker than the PS3 so they will never relies it that is why they made that exclusive deal with Netflix and now have add on 1080P streaming to cool of the hardcore fans and show them that they don’t nee blue ray but we all know that streaming is no way the same as the blue ray disc but MS is trying to keep the hardcore happy, since they know that the blue ray drive is not coming until maybe next gen. But this all could change if Blue ray becomes the leader in the coming years they will be force to take action.

[Anorexorcist]

They act like they don't care about anything associated with Blu-Ray, yet apparently before the Xbox 360 Elite they held the same position and sentiments against HDMI.

Microsoft will come around and accept defeat. They'll launch their umpteenth SKU with Blu-Ray enabled features eventually. They just don't want the d*ckhead bots like MetalGearRising to go wet their huggies underpants in frustration tonight.

[djtek184]

sure...
the ps3 is back, well almost http://www.youtube.com/watc... ps3 ftw

[rjgbyrne]

That way they get the best of both plus a blu-ray player cheaper than a stand alone player, problem is the PS3 chews up power for playing blu-rays over a standalone player.

[ReBurn]

Blu-Ray players are as cheap as $100 now. They aren't top of the line, but they play Blu-Ray movies. There's even an Insignia model for about $180 that will stream Netflix, which is pretty cool.

But PS3 is still the best deal because of games and the other media capabilities.

[Omega Zues]

oh its coming. MS is just trying to play cool about it.

[drewboy704]

definetly. Major Nelson always trying to cover up after MS execs

[Troll_Police]

Nice spin. They say that now after they read the negative backlash from the story. It was all a test.

[ReBurn]

Yep. I'm sure that they're glued to the comments on N4G waiting for potential backlash from people who don't even own their product. You nailed it.

[The real killer]

"In fact, the future of home entertainment starts very soon when Xbox 360 becomes the first and only console to offer instant-on 1080p streaming HD movies"

This guy is really piss me off, this is really deceives people nothing more. Further more, it's to promote people without any knowledge about Full HD and what it mean.

I have 75 Megabit connection, and i only use 60 Megabit speed connection (not really helpful with this speed), but if we (people) need watch for a 1080p Full HD movie than pick up a Blu-ray player, because it's way to big and the most internet provider don't have 75 megabit connection even you have that, you will never get the same experience then you watch a 1080p movie with a Blu-ray player.

This guy so dump, if you need watch 1080p content, then you need at least 85 Megabit connection than you can at low framerate watch a 1080p movie.

Further more the CPU and the GPU has no power to calculate Blu-ray codex. that's why the PS3 is twice as powerful as the 360 TO PLAY BLU-RAY QUALITY MOVIES AND GAMES.

Tell me, what do you guys has a 75 Megabit connection? Tell me please if you disagree with my explanation.

EDIT:

Some loser disagree with my statement, than be man and explain why you not agree with me, you coward.

[ReBurn]

I'd imagine that someone disagreed with you because nowhere in any of that information did it say "Full HD" or "Blu-Ray quality". All it did was say 1080p streaming movies.

Perhaps if you didn't read more into it than what was actually there and then post tl;dr comments about it people would agree more with you.

[snp]

--

[Arnon]

I think we'd take you more seriously, if you had actually read up on this feature. Microsoft Game Studios already mentioned it would only take a 4 mbps connection to stream 1080p onto your 360.

http://blog.streamingmedia....

[Parapraxis]

Let me add to that The real killer,

I can stream HD movies in True 1080p from my PS3 already, from a Blu-ray, or my Network, or I can DL (and actually BUY) a 1080p video and watch it from my HDD.

Funniest thing I see with his statement is the 1080p bit since the 360 can't actually output true 1080p.

[The real killer]

"Let me add to that The real killer,

I can stream HD movies in True 1080p from my PS3 already, from a Blu-ray, or my Network, or I can DL (and actually BUY) a 1080p video and watch it from my HDD.

Funniest thing I see with his statement is the 1080p bit since the 360 can't actually output true 1080"

Funny indeed, your and mine PS3 has 1 Gigabit Connection ;) and with a Gigabit Connection Router. I know what you talking about i do the same thing watching movies :)

My 360 has only 100 megabit connection, i try this and it's not that good for watching FULL 1080p (True FULL HD) Sometime the screen begin to stutter let alone use 20 megabit internet connection what will happen if the server get overload is ;) that's why this Nelson need to shut his mouth.

[timestoby]

the 360 would get rrod if it tried to spin a bluray lolz.

[The Iron Sheik]

That's too bad bots, no true quality HD movies for you (streaming is a joke) It dosen't matter though, its not like any of you have HDTVs anyway.

[guerojose]

Gee, who didn't see this coming as soon as that Ballmer quote came out? Anybody keeping count now, of how many times Ballmer, and Gates before him, displayed their ignorance of their own console, and made it clear just how inconsequential it is to MS as a whole?

[Major_Tom]

Oh Major Nelson said it, everybody pack up and go home.

[The real killer]

Some 360 fanboys are disagree with me, without a answer why or because.

EDIT:

Is this some a joke? i ask why 360 fans not gonna ask why they give a disagree and know a disagree again from the same coward who lifes under a rock.

[ReBurn]

That's because trying to pick fights is something that isn't really well tolerated in the Gamer Zone. If you want to argue do it in the Open Zone.

[The real killer]

"That's because trying to pick fights is something that isn't really well tolerated in the Gamer Zone. If you want to argue do it in the Open Zone"

I disagree withi your opinion.

I call that a discussion not a flame war (Open Zone is flame war) not here. If people disagree without answer i can't discus about it. Why do you think taht impick a fight? i only want to know why they disagree with me nothing more, and if they not willing to answer, than those fanboys are cowards

Open zone, is more discussion without manners and i have manners.

[Zack Sawyer]

They probably dont want to have a discussion with somebody who claims they are mild mannered but keeps calling people cowards and losers, its sounds to me like you are looking for an arguement rather than a discussion.

[ReBurn]

Not to mention it isn't my opinion. Read the posting guidelines for the Gamer Zone:

"The Gamer Zone is for members who want a more friendly and civilized discussion. This section is heavily moderated by the N4G staff, so leave your fanboyism at the door please. Members who are unable to behave in a mature and respectful manner will be temporarily or permanently restricted from posting in the Gamer Zone. Using words such as Xbots and Sony droids, or other words from the console war vocabulary, is strictly prohibited in this Zone."

Picking fights isn't friendly or civilized.

[Arkham]

Yet another reason to discount the nutjuice that comes out of this coconut's headcrack.

DEVELOPERS-DEVELOPERS-DEVELOP ERS.

Ballmer...dude... One word: Intervention. That show'll make you famous(er)!

(And why t.f. doesn't Major Nelson use something appropriate for his site? Honestly, it looks like a 1997 GeoCities' site. Dude! Get one of those free blogs and play with some themes! I almost puked out of my armpit from that pistachio nightmare.)

Where's Shane Kim when you need him? Oh...wait...

[Relientk77]

the other article said blu-ray for xbox

r they trying to cover it up?

I am confused

[DelbertGrady]

It would be idiotic. Anyone with half a brain can see that what Steve Ballmer said was misinterpreted. Why would they release a BluRay accessory when:

A) Anyone with a 360 who wants Blu-Ray can get a cheap standalone player.

B) It's the technology that their biggest console rival uses.

[RockmanII7]

MS announce 360 will have Bluray = everyone call MS a sellout. MS announce 360 will not have bluray = everyone makes fun of MS for using dvd9 .

[ReBurn]

It will really blow their minds to know that Sony was at the table during discussions of Windows 7 features.

[angelrebirth]

Theses days Microsoft is confusing the Xbox 360's owners. Maybe it's a strategy to get new ones ?

[Droid Control]

When you can buy and own a HD movie along with all its special features on PS3?

ZING!

[dredgewalker]

Putting bluray on the 360 now would be pointless. I guess they are adopting bluray for their next gen console which is a more logical move. I mean how in the world are you gonna put out a next gen console if it only has a dvd drive?

[TheMailman]

MS FTW... lol

[Condemnedman]

If DVD is so outdated why do you need to defend blu ray with your lives? its just a consumer choice . I fund myself buying more dvd's now because they are priced about right ,your telling me most blu ray's are worth the 10 pounds or so premium price over dvd's ? Nah I don't think so of course a few movies do warrant a higher price but not many.

[artsaber]

Laptops and PCs have had built in Bluray drives in them for years. I think Ballmer would know if he were discussing the 360 or Windows as an operating system since Microsoft doesn't make PCs. Walmart sells internal PC Bluray drives for $119. Many laptops carry a premium model sporting a Bluray drive with HDMI output. Why in the hell would Ballmer be talking about something that has already been rectified as it used to be an issue with Windows OS, but not anymore?

I smell something odd here... so the Major is gonna have us believe that Ballmer was sleepwalking and was talking about Windows Media Player supporting Bluray out of the box, instead of an actual 360 related device... hmmm. I didn't know.

Although I admit that strategically Nelson is right, and I don't think it makes any sense... Microsoft missed the Bluray train a LONG time ago, and missed out of hundreds of millions in the process. Nelson has accepted that the 360 is antiquated hardware, and will shift focus soon to a new console for next gen. They are probably mapping out a strategy on when to pull the plug on the 360 vs trying to add a major accessory to it... they already have to convince folks to buy Natal... but I think that will somehow bleed over to the next console too.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Got into the Xbox Live Update Preview.

It is SICK.

1080p HD streaming shockingly works in the click of a button.

You can even BUY movies now and save them to your HD or Zune.

I'll be using this more than Blu Ray. So MSFT I don't care about your plans! lol

[travelguy2k]

Even if Microsoft did release a bluray drive for the 360...how much would they charge for it?

They charge $99.99 for a 60gb Hdd. Can you imagine..Microsoft would have to charge $299.00 for a bluray add-on.