Are DVDs Nearing the End?

Watchers of streaming video trends are buzzing after a remark by Netflix CEO Reed Hastings in a Motley Fool podcast that DVDs may lose their number one spot for the company's video distribution after two years.

Although he didn't explicitly say what he thinks will replace DVD, a few of his statements seem to agree with what many have been saying since the end of the format war. It won't be Blu-ray.

[hitthegspot]

When will companies learn that consumers want to own what they pay for.

[Blaze929]

As long as you still got Nintendo, Microsoft, and the movie industry still supporting DVDs, DVDs are here to stay.

Thats one thing I really wonder though. Sony went with blu-ray for the PS3 and will likely be the choice for the PS4...but if Nintendo and Microsoft still use DVDs next-gen then seriously what is the point of blu-ray on the Playstation outside of exclusive games. You could say Nintendo/Microsoft are holding the gaming progression back.

[OGharryjoysticks]

your Wii doesn't play DVDs

[hitthegspot]

Who disagreed with me? Are you saying that you would rather rent than own? Used DVDs are now about $3...

[Nathan Drake2]

blaze929

lost oddyssey-4 discs
forza 3-2 discs(and it only got 400 cars and 720 p resolution )
rage-4 discs

x360-last gen console

[hitthegspot]

Home-Brew will allow you to play DVDs on your Wii...

How to Play DVD on Wii?
http://www.dvd-ripper-copy....

[butterfinger]

What leads you to believe that Sony will stick with blu ray on the PS4?

PSX = CD
PS2 = DVD
PS3 = BD
PS4 = DD?

[N4G king]

it wont die
it just wont be mainstream any more
because its old gen tech

hell the CD is not dead yet
but at the same time its not mainstream
thats ( just like i said ) because its old

@1.1
"DVDs, DVDs are here to stay"
yah thats why HD-DVD is dead right ??

and one more thing
MS and Nintendo wont support DVD for ever
i mean next gen is like 5 years to come and by that time using DVD would be a JOKE

[calis]

"What leads you to believe that Sony will stick with blu ray on the PS4?"

Investment.

[N4G king]

@1.8

you have a good point in there
i can see the PS4 getting a faster and more bigger bluray capacity
like those 100 gig's disk's

DAAAAAAAAAAAMN
a game that would fell that disk .... WOW

[butterfinger]

Investment means absolutely nothing. Sony was (and still is) greatly invested in the DVD format, and they used the PS2 as a trojan horse for DVD just like they have done with the PS3 and blu ray. Sony made a clear statement with the PSP Go, so don't expect them to support blu ray for another console generation especially if that new console is 3 years or more away.

[Blaze929]

And just what the hell is your point?

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@butterfinger

Like Calis said, investment. Sony just cant ditch blu-ray out of no where and through all that money down the drain. Digital Distribution? I'm not too sure we'll see that by the PS4, not yet at least. I can't imagine downloading 20GB+ for one damn game. No thanks. Most definitely will still be blu-ray as they continue to try and push for that to be the new standard and accepted disc format.

[butterfinger]

how quickly all of you forget that last generation of gaming. People were saying the same thing about Sony and DVD. I guess we will just have to wait and see. lmao.

BTW: Sony wouldn't be throwing their money down the drain. If blu ray becomes mainstream, then the PS3 did it's job. They don't have to keep supporting blu ray with their video game consoles. Sony is an enormous electronics company, and they will make plenty of money off of blu ray in many other ways. The PS3 has done it's job just as the PS2 did.

[hitthegspot]

That game is worth $60...

[Darkstorn]

Pretty much. I don't have an HDTV, and probably won't get one for a while (I'm a college student, entertainment isn't my top priority). Sure, they're dropping in price, but the majority of HDTV sales these days is by those who already own one. More frugal families have decided that since they only watch a few hours of TV a week, they don't need some newfangled TV. I'm fine with my 27" SDTV, thank you very much (except when the text in games is too small to read).

[evrfighter]

The age of the DVD is indeed near its end.

Digital Distribution will be the next big thing.

[iamtehpwn]

Even on a Standard Definition TV, a Bluray looks much better, particularly for CGI heavy flims.

And on An HDTV, the quality is absolutely amazing.

[JackBNimble]

Untill streaming video becomes true HD as good or better then blu-ray ,then blu-ray will be here to stay.

And services like Netflex are American only.If you are Canadian (I don't know if the UK or EU has these services)you will not get most services like netflex to stream video.

[glennc]

@iamtehpwn - blu-ray looks the same on SD as DVD does. it is not the same as comparing games, it is just resolution. i have directly compared both and there was no difference.

[iamtehpwn]

I noticed a difference in Visual And Audio Quality from watching something in HD and SD on an SDTV. While it's smaller compared to HD + HDTV, it is still very much noticable. I can tell when video is HD or SD even by watching it on an SDTV because there's far less compress on the HD version.

[captain-obvious]

why in not surprised to see 360fanboys defend the DVD and claim its not dyeing and DD well be the future ??

all of this just because Sony made bluray ??

and i dont know what's the big deal of this
if you guys say the DD is the future and its better

then tell me
why the games on PSN and XBL don't outsell the games that are on DVD and blu-ray ???

[jeseth]

I personally haven't bought a DVD. Its been almost 2 years since I bought a DVD movie.

You pro-DVD people can keep fooling/lying to yourselves all you want, it looks like crap compared to Blu Ray. Upscaled DVD, HD OnDemand, NetFlix streaming, etc. It all looks just as bad compared to Blu Ray as VHS looked to DVD.

[butterfinger]

Your name doesn't suit you at all, since you clearly can't see the difference between downloadable titles and the games that are released on discs. Nobody was trying to make this a stupid fanboy argument until you came in here saying stupid things and acting paranoid about "360 fanboys".

[captain-obvious]

@1.22

don't try to spin things up
all i see you do is troll on PS3 threads
answer my question or don't talk at all

[thorstein]

And I like paying for Blu Ray. So, the answer is yes DVD is done. Blue Ray is next and then...Flash?

[Dutch Boogie]

Are DVDs Nearing the End?

Microsoft sure as hell doesn't think so lol. It's quite obvious they weren't planning on pushing games development further. Who brings a last gen disk format to the HD war?

[Jumping-Jack]

They will come to an end just as Video Tapes came to an end. How long however is debatable it could be anywhere from like 2 years to 6 years who knows. The age of digital downloads and Blu Ray will gain rule eventually, but as to how long we'll have to wait and see. However I could be wrong seeing as this is just my opinion but thats how I feel on the matter anyway.

[Golfcoachh]

The difference between vhs to dvd and dvd to blu ray or DD is that you didn't need a new tv to watch dvd like you do with a blu ray, also most people still don't have a fast enough internet speed, heck tons are still on a dial up connection. So I think more like 6-10 years for dvd to finally be laid to rest. I can't see my mom or dad getting a new hdtv to watch blu rays, nor do I see a lot of people who have old sd tv's making the change just so they can watch a blu ray.

[Pandamobile]

DVD's still have another 2-3 years before they start getting phased out entirely.

[mrv321]

Not even close for DVD's it'll be more like 10-20. DVD's are still fine for movies. Go into HMV and you'll see.

DVD's for gaming are duying, now we'll start seeing more DVD and Hard drive hybrids like Forza 3 and thus entering a different realm.

Sony has a crystal ball and a ad team on meth.

[PirateThom]

Oh, DVDs are HD then?

Meh, DVDs aren't fine. As TVs get bigger, the DVD's quality becomes even more apparent.

[lagoonalight]

LOL, I love when people say dvd is fine for movies or FILM. The 35mm format most employed in hollywood has relative resolution to that of bluray give or take a little. Nobody who really really enjoys cinema would ever settle for DVD period.

The resolution, colors, flaws, etc of the DVD format are apparent to anybody with a 1080 screen and eyes no matter how big or small. My Dell 24 inch shows a TON more detail and resolution compared to any upscaled dvd.

[mrv321]

But TV's won't get bigger, the technology will allow them to grow but peoples houses wont I see 40 inches to to be standard instead of the 28 to 32 of 2000. DVD's will be fine.

I can't get tell the difference between blu-ray and dvd I have poor eyesight, I watch youtube on 26 inch tv's and they still look fine.

[butterfinger]

It would be hard for a format that hasn't been our for 20 years to make it ANOTHER 20 years. If anything, digital distribution should have DVD completely killed off in the next 5 years or so.

[calis]

"digital distribution should have DVD completely killed off in the next 5 years or so. "

Not a chance in hell.

DD will struggle to be the main format ever due to the simple fact that more half the world does not have an Internet connection or have a fast enough connection for streaming to be feasible.

[N4G king]

DD wont work at all at the moment
you think that sony didn't think of that ???

the whole world still don't have a HIGH speed connections

hell i know PPL in other countries downloading a games demo takes a whole night

he starts downloading it before he sleeps
leave his console up and running all night
and by the time he is up the download is at it's final stages

and that’s only a demo
what you think a full game would take ?? …. A WEEK ?

add to that the new big games like MAG
games in the future well be as big as that game

[jmare]

I can see DD killing off DVDs. Not BluRays, just DVDs. The level needed to stream DVD quality video is almost here and it will take a few more years to get that technology to enough people to make it work. Blurays will still be there for people who want to own their content and audio- & videophiles. DD is perfect for rental, but It is crap for owning.

[butterfinger]

EXACTLY. Really, the combination of blu ray and DD will be lethal to DVD sooner than later. Also, the technology will be their quicker than people like to think. You can say that DD won't become mainstream due to most people not having high speed connections, but that number will become smaller and smaller in the next 5 years. 5 years is a lifetime in terms of how they can advance the technology all over the world. Nobody is forcing you to give up your DVDs though, so why not have an open mind?

[Pandamobile]

Console kids....

Digital download isn't streaming the game like a movie (see OnLive).

Digital download/digital distribution is when you purchase your games online, and download them directly (see Steam, Direct 2 Drive, Gamer-Gate, Impulse).

Digital distribution is already huge on PC, it's only a matter of time before the consoles try to catch up.

[captain-obvious]

you already can download games on your console using PSN and XBL

@below
yes i know
but still you can find/buy games online

[Pandamobile]

I mean on a grander scale.

You won't see a new release on Xbox Live.

[Arnon]

Microsoft's already trying to do it with the Games on Demand service.

[sikbeta]

Guys there is something called "evolution", DVD's makes my grandma look like a baby

[Ron_Burgundy]

bu bu bu bu but teh HD DVD!!!! bu bu bu the DVD will prevail!!!! bu bu bu bu bu but games on demand!!!!

lol bots were dropped on there head when they were born :P :P

[Shadow Man]

I see your stuck in 2007

Movies still available in DVD, games still available in DVD, Software still available in DVD.

[Ron_Burgundy]

movies still come out on vhs, and your point is?

[Shadow Man]

Maybe in your Country, but here in America DVD and Blu-ray Only.

[Ron_Burgundy]

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[Shadow Man]

Exactly....

[Ron_Burgundy]

I am arguing with a brick wall, or a 2 year old, have a nice day sir

[chaosatom]

The simple point is that quality keeps increasing on PS3 year by year, because of excellent first party developers, blu-ray and the cell.

[N4G king]

lol
the only people that which blu-ray ti fail and says that Digital distribution is the future are all 360 fanboys

well ..... they can dream
lol

[saint_john_paul_ii]

Shadow_man is a prime example of a bot that got dropped on the head when he was born...

[Fishy Fingers]

This old chestnut.

[tdogchristy90]

DVD's will die eventually but in relation to this article I don't see it. People like owning there physical media and getting that reward, that is something you don't get from a "fake media" like streaming movies.

I do think that DVD will stick with movies as well as BR. but as far as gaming all three consoles will either go to hard drive or BR disks by next gen. because the space is simply needed.

[CryWolf]

DVDs are dying I would give it a year before people start putting PS3's in their living rooms.

[cheapndirty]

I am a launch ps3 owner. And a home theater enthusiast. That being said Blu ray players are going down rapidly in price. You can now buy quality blu ray players from LG and Panasonic that bitstream and internally decode ALL of the advanced audio codecs for 150-190. If you know how to shop online you can find them as low as 130.00.

This XMAS we will see 99.00 quality Blu ray players. Granted these players will be missing the ability to watch Netflix and you tube, but will still be excellent players.

Why am I telling you all of this? Because NEXT year Blu ray players will be below 99.00 for quality players.It is going to be a tough sell for the average consumer (that is who really matters not the core gamer) to spend 249.00 to 299.00 for a ps3 vs. 99.00 for a quality blu ray player. And please spare me the 'the ps3 is still the best blu ray player' Not anymore. That was 2006-2008. I can get you the links if you want.

[CryWolf]

Blu-ray will be on top in one or two years from now watch by the time Xbot natal is release alot of people will have PS3 in their living rooms watching Blu-ray movies with there family.

[Ron_Burgundy]

quite the argument I had in the open zone with someone who has mental retardation

but anyway, yes all formats eventually reach an end in there life

[Tripl3seis]

I don't think dvds are going to die soon but blu ray is going to be the main format. That's my opinion

[Pwee]

Yeah Blu-ray will be the consumer choice for a fair few years yet.

People want the actual film not for it to be stored digitally somewhere.

[DynDasE]

Because we still can't find any cheap blank blu-ray disc.

I think SONY should use Dual-Layer(or more) Blu-ray disc for their next gen console.
Fall out 3 GOTY Xbox 360 5DVDs PS3 2 Blu-ray.... OMG!

[ApocalypseShadow]

we have those talking about sony and trojan horses.really saying NOTHING.

but the proof in the playstation system is that it can and will support future mediums and content.no matter what it is.

right now,ps3 supports cd,dvd,bluray,flash drives,memory sticks and digital downloads through painless hard drive upgrading without void of warranty.just like ps2 supported cd and dvd.just like ps1 supported cd and vcd(if you knew what you were doing)

i doubt sony would be that stupid as to not put a bluray drive in ps4.bluray as digital downloads wouldn't work for next gen unless hard drives become cheap 10 terabytes in a small package.likelyhood?ZERO.we know any multiplatform game born on 360 will go digital on ps3 or ps4.it's already happened like burnout paradise.but ps3 games will get harder to do that.

but bluray drives would be cheap.just like diodes would be cheap.but sony can still support digital as the hard drives get bigger.we see this already with ps3 NOW.

it's those other systems that are having a hard time keeping up without jacking the price on you for hdds.

dvd is not dying just yet.but it will eventually as new mediums are supported.but whatever medium is supported in the future,i'd bet sony will be on the FRONT lines supporting it.not like those that support last gen technology like dvd for next gen electronics like nintendo and microsoft did.

[butterfinger]

thought that Sony wouldn't be that stupid as to make a PSP with no UMD drive and no way to transfer your UMDs. Your walls of text say NOTHING.

[glennc]

this article was sure to bring out PS3 fanboys who are too attached to their beloved console they can't actually say anything worthy about what the article is about.

just another reason to defend their choice of console, when the article isn't even about games.

[captain-obvious]

@butterfinger
actually
PSPgo is not PSP4000

give it up your a 360 fanboy that try's to spin things up
and he is right Sony can support both

[ApocalypseShadow]

you think that internet speeds in most countries will be able to download huge files like ps3 games in the next 5 to 10?i want what you are smoking.

files on UMD are SMALL.files on ps3 bluray discs are BIG.those with common sense can see it will be a while before speeds catch up to download all those games.and HDDS to hold it all.

but sony was ready for cd,ready for dvd,ready for bluray,ready for digital downloads by including an upgradeable HDD.seems like they are ready to me for whatever comes next.

using a portable with small files as your proof was weak.also,UMD was never a mass market medium like cd,dvd or bluray.it was used ONLY FOR PSP.

you failed.

[butterfinger]

YES! I've finally been called a 360 fanboy this week. I can't wait until a 360 fanboy calls me a PS3 fanboy as well (that's what usually happens with you kids). Also, Apocalypse Shadow, 10 years ago most of the countries I assume you are referring to didn't even have the internet widely available as they do today. Your narrow mindedness towards technology is pathetic and it is easy to see why Sony blows your little mind with every thing they come up with. You can say I fail if that makes you feel better, but that doesn't make you correct. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens, or we can be like you and act like we know what's going to happen in the future.

[ApocalypseShadow]

umd was not a mass market item.cd,dvd and bluray are.even nintendo dropped GBA support on NDS.but it's not like it's that serious to drop something.

if sony was gung ho about digital,they would have dropped all sales of psp1000-3000.they didn't.so you failed.it's an alternative.not a replacement.

you either buy pspgo or not.to new owners,all the games for download are new.to those that have a previous psp,it's their choice to lose umd or not.personally,i'd rather stick with my psp1000.but that's my choice.

but dvd is not going away.just like bluray is not going away.people i know still use vhs tapes.still use tapes in the car.still use cds over mp3s.there are people right now buying records for record players at best buy.

sorry kid,bluray is not going anywhere as it has become the standard for the next decade.no matter what you believe.

[Elven6]

As long as their is a market we will still see DVD's. Hell, they still sell VHS tapes at Safeway!

Event than, a niche market can still exist look at Vinyl Records. In North America for instance a lot of Middle East, Asia, etc oriented stores sell products on cassette tapes, why? People buy them.

[Kakkoii]

Eventually we'll move to selling movies on little SD cards or something similar. It's a much better solution. Takes up much less room and doesn't loose data when you scratch it's plastic surface lol.

As fabrication process's become smaller, this route will become more viable. It's still more than 5 years away though. It's going to be another year or 2 before SSD's are more price/space effective than hard drives.

[glennc]

piracy is killing all movie formats. and the quality of movies coming out is why... they are just rubbish and not worth a purchase. there is no effort gone into movies these days, they all follow a tired formula and are just full of cliched one-liners that you know are coming 2 minutes before they are said.

i don't want pay more for less (resolution aside) so i will not buy blu-ray discs, i can barely find any to rent. my local blockbuster is still about 98% dvd.

[Ares84PS3]

......I don't know where is that Blockbuster but the ones around my area have a crap load of blu-rays.

[sikbeta]

Piracy is killing everything, BD is the best format against piracy for now, in the future BD will be hacked, but this HD generation is the beginning for the non-hacked consoles, you know Patches Updates and Firmwares will kill piracy in games, as for movies nothing can be done

[JonnyBigBoss]

I hope so. Blu-Ray eclipses DVD in so many ways. Blu-Ray is a terrific format.

[ForROME]

I would guess the next gen to be like so,

There will need to be a transition

Have an Xbox or PS with no Slot Drive, but have it optional for those who A: want to play thier old games B:watch movies C: still want phy media

That isnt hard to phathom now the gen after that will likely not have it at all

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Just like the xBox 360? HELL YEAH!!! ;-P

Just got the 'Matrix Box Set' Blu-ray the other day;)
+ 'The Dark Knight' looks AMAZING on Blu-ray!!! ;-P (i LOVE the iMAX bits!!!) ;-P
+ I'll get 'Star Trek(2009)' next month on Blu-ray to... ;)

[Ares84PS3]

Ever since I got my PS3 I'm only buying blu-ray movies. I sold all my DVDs....around 200 I think and I got more blu-ray movies now than I ever had DVD's.

[AliTheBrit]

Nope, not even close.

Here is why:

- Gaming: The 2 Biggest gaming consoles, as in most selling, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii still use DVD and if there manufacturers are anything to go by they still have a good few years left in them yet, and lets not even get onto PC gaming.

- Film: Lets not forget, Blu-Ray players are complete backwards compatible with DVD.

- PC's: The biggest, All PC's have DVD drives today as standard, unless the machine is ancient, and I highly doubt we will ever get to a stage where Blu-Ray is standard in PC drives, and considering that makes at least around 100 Million PC's with DVD drives, you would be an absolute retard to think DVD as a format is going ANYWHERE anytime soon.

Lets face it people, Blu-Ray doesn't have a chance of becoming any kind of real media format like DVD did. I think digital downloads will take over before that, and even then the people still using physical media, DVD will still easily out-sell Blu-Ray.

[cyborg6971]

Keep living in your dreamscape brit and the 360 will be in second only until next year that's when the ps3 passes it. DD is 2 decades from being used by 50% of the market so blu will fill the gap for awhile.

[N4G king]

Ali the bot

first of all
all these things used to be said about CD vs DVD as well

and for your information there are PC's with blu-rays in them already

second
it looks like you forgot that blu-ray is being adapted faster that DVD ant the same life span period

[PopEmUp]

still in delusion I see.

Pc first used CD, then later on it move over to dvd i.e with bigger size storage. Now you see this will happen soon with blue-ray, i.e bigger storage and well protected from scratches

[hitthegspot]

If you are talking about Hulu when you are refereing to DD, then you have an argument, but if you are talking about NetFlix or a Pay per view, then I can not agree... Like PopEmUp pointed out above "PC", and as hard drive sizes increase more people will opt for a Blu burner drive. I just got one for $120 or less. The media is still pricey, but it's coming down and as it does so will all the prices for the movies. The difference is that Blu-Ray has a lot of wiggle room, where DD does not since it's licensed. It will be a long road...

[sikbeta]

Blu-ray Disc is the last physical media format, we have a news last week about a 320g BD and is only the begging, Next gen we'll have BD as an very established standard and by that time DD will be established in a minor way

[Ares84PS3]

You need thousands of TB HDD's. Internet connections that are AT LEAST 20x faster than what we have now and for EVER single person to be able to get these things. In some places even in the USA your only option is Dial-up....yes in 2009. So let's wait on those DD's. They are comming but defenatly not next gen.

[sikbeta]

You are right but I'm still using SCE point of view, the 10 years life cycle and by that logic in 1 Decade technology could advance but I really don't care cuz I have something that will last forever

[Dogswithguns]

That is up to consumers, when they stop buying DVDs that's when it's end....

[Rybnik]

Movie digital dist will continue to be niche...we need more reliable speeds higher bandwidth AND people will continue to want hard copy for what they own...thus Blu-ray is going NOWHERE!

[butterfinger]

to me that dumb fuking morons like Apocalypse Shadow and Captain Obvious think that I am talking about DD taking over Blu Ray in the Gamer Zone. You two are completely retarded. We were discussing the end of DVD!!!! Are you fanboys that paranoid that you think EVERY SINGLE PERSON is attacking the console you love and cherish so dearly?! Why the fuk would I want blu ray to fail when I own over 125 different titles on the format?! Captain Obvious is completely convinced that I am trolling article about a console that I OWN and LOVE. lmao. I probably have more trophies than these retards even.