Halo 3: ODST to be shorter than Halo 3

Lars Bakken of Bungie and Microsoft Game Studios' Ryan Crosby confirmed that the campaign for Halo 3 ODST would be a shorter one than Halo 3.

[Cajun Chicken]

Oh. 'Shame.

[Trollimite]

it did start out as dlc.

and dlc is usually shorter than a full game.

[Eiffel]

It was never slated as DLC.

It's been considered a retail product since the Game Informer preview.

[ape007]

in halo 3 was kinda meh,decent at best,it was nothing like halo 1,halo 1 sp is one of the best ever,halo 3 sp is somewhat cold,uninspired,weapns didn't feel as powerful as h1 or 2,battles were amazing and so memorable in h1,level design in h1 was so memorable,I mean the whole gameplay in h1 was the best halo gameplay ever,they ruined the assualt rifle in halo 3,it's nothing like the old one,levels in h3 feels empty,dull and forgettable as hell,online mp saved h3 for me

I hope odst have an amazing sp mode

and...one of the things that really bothers me about h3 and odst is that these games aren't a major jump over halo 1,halo 1 gfx,scoop,etc was too good to be true at its time,u expect h3 to have the same impact but it wasn't,odst just feels halo 3+,im afraid the series suffer from the"smackdown vs raw syndrome"

[Name Last Name]

Couldn't agree more

[Xi]

but i thought that the campaign in halo 3 was actually the best.

[The_Darkest_Red]

I suggest you watch your mouth.

[rhood022]

@Eiffel

It might be a retail product, but it's still an expansion. Similar to what Bethesda did with Shivering Isles.

From the GI interview:

ODST design director Paul Bertone when asked Why Master Chief wasn't the star of Halo ODST (then called Recon):

"When we were thinking about the Chief or the Arbiter stories that we could tell, there was just no story that fit into a THREE to FIVE-hour EXPANSION PACK, which is what we're building here."

[SevWolf]

@ Xi: Say what? You went totally off topic, also you think MGO saved MGS4? You think the gameplay barely evolved from MGS1 to MGS4, and only got worse? You think there was no major jump graphically or gameplay wise between 1 and 4? O..K sure...*finds a wall and hits his head on it*
On topic: I've never played a Halo, I know it's sad :(, but I might get this probably later when the price goes down, but I'll still get it :)

[Unicron]

I was disappointed by the campaign in Halo 3.. as I said before, Gravemind was totally robbed. I still think Halo 1 stands up the best. (Multiplayer excluded, since Bungie are masters at making good MP)

[The Lazy One]

have you looked at any of the halo games next to each other?

they all look pretty different from each other. Halo 2 looked way better than CE in almost every respect. Character models in H3 weren't a huge leap, but the environments looked way better than in H2.

And CE wasn't really a huge leap over anything at the time.

That said, we've known the campaign was shorter than H3 since it was announced.

[ShabzS]

i'm playing halo 3 right now ... and i have to say the game is bucket loads of fun ... the environments are huge ... and there's no telling whats gonna happen next...

[shovelbum]

Not a huge Halo fan but I do own them all and it'll sell like water before an asteroid impact. That being said, short and sweet pretty much sucks nowadays! Just like COD4, a 5 hour campaign for $60 is a joke. I understand that the MP adds tons to the game but not everyone values MP over story mode and those people get screwed. I'm not looking for Fallout 3 or Oblivion but an 8-10 hour campaign should not be that much to ask for when your shoveling out cash.

[DARK WITNESS]

totally agree ape.

[Blaze929]

This is old, everyone knew this when ODST was announced

[Xbox Avatars Shoe]

It's a full retail game though...

[Shepherd 214]

this was confirmed months ago, and the Halo 3 campaign was great. Halo 1 suffered from repetitive level design and a thin but still great story, which Halo 2 and Halo 3 addressed and succeeded with. The story is very in-depth for anyone who cares to explore it for longer than 10 seconds. Ive played and loved the series for 8 years now so i'd like to think i somewhat know what im talking about.

This is not DLC, however it is an expansion, so a shorter single player is to be expected. It has a 4-5 hour Campaign EXPANSION of solid single player quality(which can be played Co-Op with 4 players), Firefight mode, which is a 4 player cooperative Gears 2 Horde mode on steroids, and it comes with all DLC Multiplayer maps released to date. A great expansion for a two year old game. I HIGHLY doubt this will be the case for Gears 2 or Killzone 2, or pretty much most other shooters 2 years from now. Bungie is good to their fans.

[likedamaster]

I disagree completely. The series got better with H2 and then H3. See what I did there? Sequels will never grab you like the original title. What we wanted was quality and just more of Halo and that's exactly what we got. Halo 3:ODST will continue that trend.

Halo Reach will be something different, something we can be impressed by and really sink our teeth into.

[aldesko]

IMO they probably put so much effort in making a great MP that the SP in Halo 3 suffered a bit (it was still good, people like to overreact when they criticize it)... I hope that ODST is really great since they don't have to worry about the multiplayer.

Also, does anyone know if this will be full retail price?

[WildArmed]

lmfao Xi.
I guess some1's feeling are still hurt over MGS4

[dragunrising]

Halo fans will buy ODST regardless. However consider this: more people play the multiplayer on a daily basis than campaign. Does the article specify how much shorter? No.

All Halo 3 map packs (plus the second half of the Mythic maps) are free plus ODST "horde mode." Not bad imo.

Halo 3 campaign feels dated these days so I hope the ODST campaign isn't too short. More is always better.

[shocky16]

Anyway it's all about the Multiplayer baby.. ;)

[ape007]

I respectfully disagree

mp is amazing but imho

sp>online and in most cases if u built a great single player\gameplay,your online will always be better

[Hobadoon]

Multiplayer IS where it's at. Anyone who says other wise are those who... well... usually aren't that great at it :\

I'm the type of gamer that will gladly take a game where I can compete against human beings rather than Artificial Intelligence (Unless I don't have a choice - Mass Effect, Prince of Persia, Resident Evil, You get the picture...) And Mass Effect is one of my favorite games so me not loving single player games is hardly the case but if a game has both, I usually opt more for competing against those with brains (And I mean that loosely ha).

I mean look at the online numbers Halo 3 still produces. They still amaze me for how long it's been out.

[dachiefsman]

I respectfully disagree. MGS4 had a great single player while the multiplayer sucked. Flame me if you want, but I hated it. Any game where I have to fight the controls online sucks.

Single player doesn't have to set up the multiplayer. Cod4 had a decent single player, but better multiplayer as with WaW. I would probably say the same thing with Resistance 2. I thought R2 single player was okay, but the multiplayer was so much more fun.

[Hobadoon]

If you were to take Halo's Single Player Campaign and their Online Multiplayer and sell them as 2 completely separate titles; yeah I'm sure some people would buy both but the "Online Multiplayer Only" title would greatly outsell the "Single Player Only".

I'd bet my money very confidently on that.

[ape007]

that's why I said "in most cases"

mgo was a disappointment,,I agree with you,R2's sp campaign while good but forgetable,R1 was much better than R2 imo,R2 feels SO COLD

[LeReidy]

I played it on normal when i fist got it on release but i have been back to the campaign with friends for some 4 player co-op legendery madness. So iv'e clearly got wayyy over around 5 hours playtime. Add the multiplayer into that and its many many days.

[likedamaster]

Ridiculous comments. Single player is something to experience from the world of Halo, to also be enjoyed through co-op with friends. Multiplayer is a competitive mode that challenges you with the smartest AI available - a real person, with ultimate replay value through achievements, modes, and ranking.

Halo ODST is simply giving you an extension(albeit from a different view and time) of that awesome single player experience from Halo 3 with some maps to scratch that multiplayer itch but with the rest of the Halo 3 maps in case you never got the original Halo 3. $60, and worth every penny!

[Hobadoon]

Okay N4G. You all must be drinking the purple meds if you think Halo 3's single player is the single driving force of sales.

I can't take some of this sites members seriously, you business majors you. Lmao

[DoctorXpro]

old

[sonyjunky279]

I know really, this is a surprise to people?

[GrandDragon]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No depth if you ask me :P

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

So basically, just rent it, don't waste your money buying it unless you want the DLC.

At least L4D2 has replayability.

[Anon1974]

I don't subscribe XBL, so the multiplayer is no use to me, but I've always been a huge fan of Halo's single player campaign/co-op campaign. I'll wait till the game is actually out before making up my mind, but if the single player campaign is too short - I'll skip this one. There's plenty of other games coming out this fall vying for my gamer dollar that will have a satisfying single player.

[topgeareasy]

with crap graphics only possible on crapbox please fixme

[MetalGearBear]

aww!!!? shorter!!!??
that rip off!!!!

that shame.

[omimasum]

ODST will be a good game

but it aint worth $60

[dachiefsman]

this

[HappyTrigger]

is

[Gamingisfornerds]

the

[Fozzy25]

truth!

[willie6289]

oatmeal! wait, what?

[MriownBOTH]

but longer than MGS 4 ahahahahhaha

[tdrules]

your logic is quite confusing, please elaborate mr pumpkin face

[TheTruth89]

YEAH JEALOUSLY!!!!!!
Spread in the "DVD CAPABLE 360°C MINI-FURNACE" owners head!

[enjoi187]

ummm every one saying it should be a expansion cause its soooooooo short...... but it has more gameplay hours than MGS4 ( using a ps3 exclusive because you ps3 fans hate halo ) so yeah this so called expansions has more gameplay than mgs 4 and a multiplayer that is still on of the best to date.

and my 360 is a furnace and it does heat up my room after a while....but some reason i play it way way way more than my ps3...

[Erotic Sheep]

Sigh.. I still believe this has to be priced as a $40 game instead of a $60 one, it's more of an expansion and basically you're just paying for the name x.x

[Counter_ACT]

Bit lame. They'll still charge £40 for it.

[benny o klaatt]

a one minute search on google shopping shows prices start at £29.73 ah good times, can't wait!

[Counter_ACT]

Even so, that's the same price as a normal game. Isn't this basically a big DLC on a disc?

[benny o klaatt]

oh so now normal priced brand new games don't cost 40 quid as you stated, and now now cost 29.73 now that you've been proven wrong. typical sony fan tart proven wrong and backing out of what he said. crappy counter act

[LeReidy]

If they released this at £100 i'd buy it. Getting it at amazon for £29 is a massive deal.

[enjoi187]

longer than mgs 4 in gameplay for sure though so im happy..plus new online....

anyone ever play MGO lol...dont

[mrv321]

How did you get down to one bubble...

*Reads completely unreleaated comment on MGS 4*

Oh that's how.

Oh I played MGO beta and hated but the demo was awsome, tense online action with good graphics and stunning gameplay.

Halo 3 story is average, good with friends, more dull on your own especially that stupid girl who decides it would be fun to jump on to your viser and do a dance which SOMEHOW slows you down maybe she requires CPU power... but if that the case I don't remember ever seeing her crashing and requiring a restart so I doubt she Microsoft softwere.

[SpoonyRedMage]

Well that's cool with me. You get all the DLC as well as the Firefight mode and may be some other ingame goodies!

[Shane Kim]

So it's going to be like 3 hours long?

[Eiffel]

Who honestly would buy this for Singleplayer...It's Halo. Does no one remember what made Halo popular? Multiplayer...I'm buying it for the multiplayer, singleplayer to me is just a plus.

[The BS Police]

Then why did I buy all the Halo games for the singleplayer then?

[Hobadoon]

Drugs?

[DARK WITNESS]

well everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I bought and have always loved halo for its single player, prob why i like halo ce more because i like the single player.

There are still people who enjoy a good story ( which is also why i liked dead space so much )

and no, it does not always mean we suck at multiplayer.

[Pootangpie]

Halo 1 didn't have online or Live supports what's so ever and to be honest split screen is now primative for all I care I would rather play the game on my T.V in full screen rather then look at it in split screen and believe it or not that's the only way you could play it coop and competitive multiplayer. trust me multiplayer was not a big thing for the series until Halo 2 and no the PC version of the first game doesn't count because it was a lousy port as for the campaign being short did any moron actually believe it would be the same length as halo 3 considered that it's a ****ing expansion pack even bungie admitted before that it would be a 4 hour game max

[deadreckoning666]

Wait..ODST's 60 bucks!!! We'll I gotta admit it makes sense, they'll buy anythg with Halo on the cover

[Xi]

sony said the same thing about the playstation brand...

[no_more_trolling]

lol funny reply. i chuckles

[poopsack]

I'll be sure to link back here when someone asks me what irony is.

[lloyd_wonder]

Short just like Left 4 Dead.

Beta Box 360: "Constantly testing betas of real full length retail games"

[tdrules]

dont bash left 4 dead, its really rather good ON PC

[IcyJoker187]

has only 3 completely new maps, an extra mode, and your playing full price?

well done well done first day buy

hahahahahaha

[green]

ODST contains every multiplayer map ever released for halo 3 as well as forge,4 player co-op,brand new firefight mode and Halo Reach beta invite.So apart from the single player campaign, ODST is even more value IMO.And if you buy online, its only £27.

[jav0918]

and 3 new multiplayer maps

[LeReidy]

£27......... I would have payed about £8.50 for the new maps plus if some people haven't bought the earlier maps thats 2 map packs @ 8.50 (Heroic are now free) = £17......... I'm thinking £17 for a single player game with firefight added and the actual halo 3 multiplayer is a bargain. AM A RIGHT DUDES!?

[Xi]

so there's exploration to be had, and in co-op, and knowing bungie it'll be packed to the brim with hidden easter-eggs and secrets.

[II Necroplasm II]

Still selling 6 million copies. Halo fans don't care, they want that multiplayer the most

[rhood022]

But what about the fact that 99% of the hardcore Halo fans already HAVE the multiplayer content included with this game. The obvious exception is the two new maps, Horde Mode, and the beta invite.

They get to pay $60 for a shorter game and 95% content they already spent money on. They'll do, to be sure, but it's border line insanity to do so.

[djtek184]

M$ will milk this franchise to death cuz they know the Bots will buy anything with the name Halo.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Why are they charging $60 for this standalone expansion? It should be $40.

[Eiffel]

Online you can preorder the title for a pretty cheap price.

[Elven6]

The DLC for Halo 3 alone (which is included with ODST) would cost roughly $40. Factor in a new single player mode set in a open world, firefight mode, Halo Reach beta key, 3 exclusive multiplayer maps, etc and you got yourself a pretty justifiable pricetag.

But considering your comment history I doubt you would be buying the game at any pricepoint since you don't seem to own a 360.

[kevinx1000]

Big surprise [/sarcasm]
i think $60 is a little much when you've already got halo 3 and al the map packs, but it's still worth it for me. day one buy for sure!

i'd pay $60 just for the reach beta :)

[meetajhu]

Graphics same as Halo 3 and game shorter than Halo 3. No thanks MS for your infamous map DLC.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

well, it would be silly for an expansion pack to be longer than the main story...

[nightelfmohawk]

And M$ is still charging full price for this expansion, because M$ knows lemmings will buy anything with the word "Halo" in the name.

[TRIPLEPLAY]

i swear u look like Mr. T from the A Team. j/k

[nightelfmohawk]

I'm the Artist Formerly Known as Mr. T., foo'.

[Omega Zues]

They said this is just a "expansion" and would not be priced as a full game. Few months later they add all the map packs then declare it should be priced as a full game. Yet lets break it down.

If you take away all the maps that are already included in Halo 3 and the Halo map packs. All you are really getting thats new is a campaign mode thats maybe 2-3hrs long for a experinced player and 3 new maps. Oh and of course the horde mode copy. Thats it. No way near worth $60. Not to mention if you already own Halo 3 and the map packs.

and sadly still not HD.

[LeReidy]

The old bungie game marathon had a mode where enemies constantly spawned and you had to take them out.... and im sure even a game before marathon had this too, so your point in the "horde mode" copy doesn't work sorry.

[HuGi]

So where´s the big Deal ????

[The Wood]

what are you on about?

Anyway like many have said halos pull is the multiplayer but dressing up dlc as a full title is lame no matter how much damage control OR hate is spewed anyway only time will tell and theres no point making full judgements until its release. It does seem slightly unfair to the people who already have the content that has been used to 'beef up' this title

[no_more_trolling]

i never real dug halo multiplayer. COD 4 still has me hooked.

waiting patiently for modern warfare 2

[HuGi]

Killzone 2 = 3 hours.

Uncharted = 2

Halo 3 = 11

Halo ODSt = 9.

[Anon1974]

Killzone 2 - 3 hours? The last boss fight alone lasted over half an hour. Most sites say Killzone 2 was about 10 hours. I'm not sure how long it took me to finish the single player, but it was at least that.

Uncharted was somewhere about 8-9 hours for the average gamer on normal.

They were both about the same length as Halo 3's campaign, if not a bit longer.

This article says Halo ODST will be between 5-8 hours long. So, you can guess about 5 hours on normal setting, maybe you can squeeze 8 out on some impossible difficulty setting. And this should come as a surprise to no one. It's an expansion, after all. It's not meant to be a whole new Halo game. I'm still looking forward to it, but at least I'm not kidding myself about what I'm getting.

[raztad]

@dark

Agree. This guy is just a butthurt troll. KZ2 is AT LEAST ten hours and you always can replay it, the experience is quite different each time.

Judging by Bungie laziness (same engine, no improvements), ODST will get a up to 5 hours SP. Somehow expected cause it's just an expansion, but it's not justifiable cause they are charging full price for it.

[Amir51]

1) you're statements are false

2) they are irrelevant

[pure pwnage24]

b!tch I beat Halo 3 in like 3 hours on my cousins 360, it had to be one of the shortest campaigns I ever played, Killzone 2 lasted me a good 10 hours on the easiest mode and I'm on elite and I expect to put in a good 13 hours into it on that mode.

>Playing first person shooters since Duke Nukem 3D and Goldeneye oh yeah :P<

And I da/mn know Halo is one of the most over rated series of all time

[Alex_Mexico]

what an ignorant turd. It took me 9 hours to beat on hard mode on my first play through Uncharted and then 13 on my second one playing on Crushing (super hard).

Troll.

[IronFistChinMi]

Roughly 15 hours to complete Halo 3, as I played it on Legendary from the start. I'll be doing the same for this entry too and kindly recommend you all do the same.

[Elven6]

ODST is a sandbox game so I assume this only applies to those who want to burn through it.

[Another One]

They point out in the video that there are things throughout the city you can find. Kind of like skulls, i suppose. (although they are not skulls)I know that will extend the length of the campaign for me.

[Neo604]

who care bout quality, it gonna sell million day one.

[KingKionic]

It`s and open world game and it`s shorter then halo 3?

hmm..guess it will be longer on other difficulties .

[Mwaan]

I'm getting it for Firefight mode.

[hotshot127]

If halo odst is considered a new game then Ninja gaiden sigma 2 is as well. Seeing as how it's essentially the same as ninja gaiden 2 with coop and a few boss fights extra then then its a brand new games seeing as how halo odst is halo 3' multiplayer maps with a few hours of its own sp campaign...

[PStu'rd]

''but longer than MGS 4 ahahahahhaha''

I doubt that dude. Youtube statistics show MGS4s average viewing time is well over 2 hours. Add the cutscenes and you got yourself 20 hours worth of free passive entertainment.

I dont really understand Sfags. They knew their company of choice would get ass raped for E3 (like all past e3s) and they know ODST will steamroll their entire 09 clusterf@ck library yet they all act like that lonely retarded hunchback kid in school who got beat to shreds by a frat boy and now the dudes girfriend is giving him a kiss on the cheek out of pity. Hes happy for a moment but he knows the frat boy will kill him eventually.

[Hockey11]

Wow that is quite detailed. Personal experience?

[FantasyStar]

How short is "short"?

If it went from 8-10hr to like 5-6hr. That's fine. If we're only talking <4hr then I have a problem with that. I buy games for the SP because MP can always degrade in value. While SP's value is eternal.

[Another One]

Do you guys not comprehend things very well? Selective reading and hearing, I suppose. The basic campaign without getting any of the extra stuff is less than Halo 3. If you want to get some of the other things hidden around the city, it'll easily take longer than Halo 3. They clearly pointed out there are things other than the regular campaign missions to do. I know I'll be looking for all those things.

I suggest watching the video before you post and I suppose the people that recorded the interview were looking for hits considering they don't mention the other things to do in campaign that extend its playtime. They also don't tell you that open world usually means varying time tot complete a campaign.

It figures though. Halo is everyone's favorite game to hate.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

You sure it's not going to be called -

'Halo 3: RR-oDST' ;-D

[BlueScreenOfDeath]

hahaha...

or shorter than kim's love tool

[HuGi]

I still playing Halo 3 Campaign and i sold my KZ2...

That games sucks!

Campaign TEM Hours ??? Damn u guys are so noobs , play with me online i will teab bag u all the time!

NOOBS!!

ahah 10 hours ? LOL

[OmarJA]

Butt hurt? LOL!

[Nelson M]

You Must be Absolute Crap at Games
It's been out for 3 Years
Thy Silly Little BoT

[OO7]

You sure owned his ass nelson

[Amir51]

You know it says on your BIO you dont have a PS3.
Maybe thats why you had such a hard time enjoying killzone 2.

[Ko_Uraki]

According with the interview it is shorter than Halo 3, but not so much and with a very good story.

[interrergator]

ill still be happy about it even though its short but 24 maps firfight and A BETA to me its worth 60 bucks

[IQUITN4G]

Bungie has also said that this is considered by the team to be the game they're most proud of since Halo1 and that says a whole lot considering Halo fans still play the hell out of it

Not to mention that the design will allow for for months of play and that's without even mentioning Firefight

This is flame bait at it's worst

[Dorwrath]

It has always been stated by Bungie from the time they announced it that it was around five hours of game play.

Old news, try writing about new news.

[TheColbertinator]

Not sure if I'll pick it up.I have a Silver account so no multi-player for me and if the campaign is only like 5 hours,I won't have much to do.

[kevinx1000]

You sure it's not the G@Ystation 3? ;-D
... see what i did there?

seriously, there hasn't been a single post of you were i'm not wondering how old you are.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Keep wondering...

[General Jewels]

This game is going to be awesome, this game alone will single handedly destory all PS3 games and send them to the sewage factory, any game comes out near Halo ODST, it will be a shame, as that game will be killed instantly as no one will buy it.

Damn Halo is the best game francise ever to be created! This is the one francise that made the sony empire go down in ruins. This was when i converted to xbox.

[PHIL1017]

very funny. whatever. i dont care abotut halo odst. shame on halo odst for shorter and sub hd. so my friend who has a 360 and im certain he will hate halo odst. ouch! you think it will destory all ps3 games? you made me laughed off! get your wet dream on! whatever. let us see what will happen to halo odst after release it on sept 23. watch out for that wet dream halo odst.

[General Jewels]

it is well known that all PS3 fans dream of the day they will get Halo, all PS3 fans already admitted that Halo is the mother of all games, so here did you hear that Halo legends the anime will come on blue-ray?

This is the closest you can get to the king, so i suggest you buy the blue ray and watch on your PS3.

But bad news about blue-ray it may get killed by Zune video......INSTANT 1080P STREAMING NO DOWNLOADS.

[GeoramA]

Oh god, the Mother of all games?

Like the series isn't overrated enough.

[Raider69]

If this is the way, development studios want to fight piracy in gaming?Full price for a 5 hours game!It probably happen again on MW2 like it did in the MW1 sp campaign "overprice"!After putting more than 23hours on prototype,a nice length game,this news just got me thinking that this bullshit of lets support dev's by buying there games no longer apply's to some of them!IThis is really lazy work from devs,and a really nice way of screwing gamers wallets!Im glad i have games like FALLOUT 3 "100h or more " and DEMON'S SOUL'S "more than 100h " on my library!

[patterson]

It's so short now they should just call it "Halo ADHD" lol.

[Saaking]

I agree that the price sucks, but for someone like me who doesn't have the map dlc it's a good purchase. Besides the gameplay will be no doubt awesome. Not to mention the Halo Reach Beta :)

[divideby0]

this is really starting to sound like a budget title all around...from graphics, to milking a good franchise...now its length..

[blazed13]

i know its off topic but i need help deciding im a huge gears 2 freak. i also tried the 30 min demo for battlefield 1943 which i also liked.
so which should i get darkcorners or BF 1943. any input would help.

[HappyTrigger]

you get a pony.

[HappyTrigger]

Well then......

[gamingfan101]

i got halo 3 a couple days ago and it sucks and i have no idea how its the best selling xbox 360 game so far so yea halo 3 sucks and ODST might be better so yea its a good thing i got my money back from gamestop

[jalen247]

As long as 360 gamers accept getting screwed by Microsoft, you will continue to be screwed. Now, can you guys stop bragging about how your 2009 lineup is better than the PS3 lineup because of games like your exclusive Halo (ODST) game this Christmas? Since its sub HD and shorter than Halo 3. Three of your biggest games are basically expansion packs and DLC. (ODST, L4D 2, and Gay Tony)

[LeReidy]

1. Grow the fck up
2. play your fcking ps3 games
3. Stop posting in fcking halo news if your a sony fanboy.

KKK?

[jalen247]

(1) I am grown. You are probably some little kid
(2) I enjoy my PS3 games. Don't need you to tell me.
(3) I am not a Sony fanboy. I speak the truth whether you like it or not.

And what is KKK? suppose to mean? What are you a KKK member?

[PHIL1017]

Amen!

[cygnuszero]

It's an expansion, it's kind of supposed to be shorter. Where is the news here?

[samfk]

in return 4 ur money u get a bit of single player co op and a beta key,trouble is alot of people keep paying!funny how they can now bundle all the maps on 1 disc halo3 shud of had em from start! instead of this constant syphoning of peoples money!! still thats how its going cus no1 stands up!!!! ps i know its a game but there ripping people off!

[Midgard228]

most expensive expansion ever.......3 hour game......wow its like 20$ an hour, i was gonna buy it bak when it was 30, but 60? guess my halo collection wont be complete now, odst is just stupid