PS3 Can Handle Splinter Cell Conviction - Ubi

Xbox 360 exclusivity is "purely a business decision", says Lead Designer; "we could absolutely execute on the PS3".

[Doctor_Doom]

"could absolutely execute on PS3", and that the game's Xbox 360 console exclusivity is entirely a question of "business".

We didn't know that /S

[sonarus]

lol before they said PS3 couldn't handle the AI for splinter cell but that was when they were still running the assa creed crap version

http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

[Saigon]

I do remember that disscussion...I guess now with all of their experince with the PS3...they decided to take a different tone...

[poopsack]

cept when things are done correctly, example being Burnout Paradise

good thing ur not a fanboy amirite?

[Applegate]

It could be done on the PS3 but the 360 version would look better like the great majority of multiplats.

[Hellsvacancy]

*Puts fanboy hat on * but if it was exclusive 2 the Ps3 would Ubisoft say the same 4 the 360?

[Tito Jackson]

But its not going to. So why does this matter?

[Applegate]

Nope they would probably not say that, its part of the PS3 folklore to make people believe that PS3 exclusives cant be done on 360. Resistance 2 could easily be done on 360 for instance but of course they would never admit that.

[PopEmUp]

will eat this game for breakfast, lunch and dinner lol

[vhero]

Your idiots for saying if on multi it would look better on 360 we just dont know this as it wont be. It most likely would since it was made on 360 first and it would most likely be ported to ps3 but to come right out and say it would just shows how deluded you are and how much of a fanboy you really are. Fanboys goto the open zone we dont want you here. You are 360 man and applegate both goto openzone and stay there.

[SevWolf]

@ 360 man and applegate: here's your lollipop, the doctor will be with you shortly.. take this,we hear at the mental institute try to believe our patient(you guys) can fill out these paper with no help :)..lol
I'm proud from Ubi, atleast they were honest about it
@ hellsvacancy: to answer your question..it depends on how they would have did it, for example Killzone isn't possible on 360 cause of the way it uses the SPUs or the processors etc.. while another game, sich as GTA IV which was a exclusive was able to be moved cause it didn't use the PS3's full potential

[Boody-Bandit]

One word. Hits
Don't you remember MGS4 and how many (hundreds) articles surrounded it? This is just where the gaming media has gone this generation, in the craper. I don't see Splinter Cell Conviction getting "that" out of hand, at least I hope not, but as you can see it is already starting.

BTW I would hold off just a little bit on "it's not going to".
If this generation has taught us anything it is that almost nothing is safe. We have already witnessed quite a few developers and publishers say game X wasn't coming to the other and then it did. With all of the MGS4 nonsense I myself almost started to believe it might end up on the 360 until I saw Kojima himself show up at E3 09 and talk about Rising and Peace Walker. :)

[Applegate]

Lol so whoever says that multiplats 90% of the time look better on 360 is a fanboy ? Oh well on N4G that must be an extremely fanboyish claim.

[Nelson M]

I Got a PM of That Butt Sore BoT pp

3 hours ago | By: pp | Block
Shut the F*CK UP B*TCH.

Haaa Lack of Exclusives can do that to a BoT
And the Fact that Spinxter Cell is a Poor BoTs Metal Gear

[The Wood]

at least they are'nt talking rubbish like some have done before even if its just to hype the game. I remember the 'ps3 cant handle our naruto' jab and then i saw Ultimate Ninja Storm and that smashed that statement to bits....tiny bits

[Christopher]

But it's always great to hear a company come out and say it rather than hiding behind marketing and closed-door-deals that require them to choose one platform over the other.

Thanks for being completely honest, Ubisoft.

[Boody-Bandit]

Good point.
It is definitely better than we are going multiplatform to reach a wider range of players. That is it, end of story.

^^^ Yeah because we all know that no money was involved. /s

At least Ubisoft has the balls to come out and admit it was purely a business decision. Oh and it was a really big check! ;)

[ugly1]

By how many pixels... 1 or 2 because it really matters? 360 fans have an insecurity problem and latch onto multiplatform games as a means of justification. The same multiplatform devs still being held back by DVD ( see Carmack article. )

Only exclusives matter and Sony dominates that space in terms of technology and graphics.

[thenickel]

Why should they go to the open zone? There only speaking the truth which all PS3 fanboys try and deny. If anybody should be in the open zone it should be everyone of you insulting them because you don't like the truth.

Back on topic: I'm sure this game could work on PS3 just like I'm sure UC2 and even KZ2 could work on 360. Of course they might not look exactly the same but neither would conviction going to PS3.

edit above ugly1: If anything Ps3 fanboys have an insecurity because when a multi plat looks better on 360 they all scream exclusives. There is no excuse for a so called weaker console to have game that look better than a more powerful console or pc for that matter. 360 fans are not insecure at all and actually tell it like it is rather than sit there and listen to fud like yours. Rage isn't even out yet and if it looks better on 360 I'm sure you will still find a way to twist the truth. The only insecure people on n4g are PS3 fanboys that always voice there opinion like it's there way or nothing at all.

[Raf1k1]

'it just wont be as good as the 360 version

EDIT:

but im telling the truth. judging on the past im pretty confident that it wont look as good, were it to come out for ps3 '

Since we all know it comes down to the devs to make a game look the same on two different platforms, your comment shows you don't think Ubi are good enough to make it look as good on the PS3.

[SevWolf]

@ brutallyhonest: "At least Ubisoft has the balls to come out and admit it was purely a business decision. Oh and it was a really big check! ;)"
lol..I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they meant, when they say "business", since business is money, it's not like remedy, which chose the 360 cause they wanted to concentrate on one console, and get the marketing ;), or like Quantum Dream and David Cage(heavy rain), which they stated that it was planned as a multiplatform game, but then realized they would focus on the PS3 due to technological reasons, also that Sony was the only publisher which accepted to see their gamem while they were turned down by others

[Christopher]

Bubble for getting it right. The onus is all on the developers. We have seen many games that are so alike that it's obvious that it's possible, developers just need to step up and make it so.

[Consoldtobots]

learn to read between the lines kids

"business decision" = m$ money was thrown at them to keep it exclusive.

oh and all the stupid 360 fanboys on here just got owned with a ten foot sextoy.

[marinelife9]

Too me it doesn't even seem Splinter Cell should warrant that question. It doesn't have anything groundbreaking graphics or physics wise. It's like asking if the new Zelda game can run on the 360 or PS3.

[darthv72]

Was there any doubt?

Realistically any game could be made to run on any platform. Give and take...it can be done. Killzone 2 on the DS is possible but not probable.

To think otherwise is fanboyish.

[Nineball2112]

@ Applegate...

Quote: "Resistance 2 could easily be done on 360 for instance but of course they would never admit that."

Yeah, you keep posting this crap... so show me the 360 game that has 60 player online that doesn't lag.

Go on... I'm waiting.

[TheReaper42]

didn't Prototype look a lot better on the PS3 than it did on the 360, yet the 360 fanboys (not 360 gamers) fail to bring up the "but it's a multiplatform, it's the superior version." Anything good relating to the PS3, lets just sweep it under the rug eh?

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Sorry to break it to you, but both versions has its advantages on each platform. Albeit minor:

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

"The Xbox 360 wins in terms of performance due to minimal screen tearing and consistent frame rate. Also the Xbox 360 had a further draw distance with its shadows."

"The PlayStation 3 takes the win by sporting higher resolution shadow maps and additional shadows underneath certain objects. Both versions had the same texture resolutions throughout."

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

big difference between "handling" and actually making the conversion live up to those expectations.

sure ps2 and ps3 was able to handel all the splinter cell games....but were they any good?

http://images.eurogamer.net...

http://images.eurogamer.net...

http://images.eurogamer.net...

[pixelsword]

...and NOT to down any of the games I mention in a negative way, but...

When the 360 puts out a game like Resistance 2, Uncharted,or Lair, with all of it's graphic detail and technical spit-shining, A first-time multiplat from developers who don't know how to convert over from the 360 to PS3 will start to matter.

The fact is when exclusive games like Halo 3, crackdown, and America's Army: True Soldiers came out with underwhelming technical achievements within a comparable time frame and then Killzone 2 comes out putting everything else on the market to shame, it only goes to show what you put into the PS3 will directly correlate to what you get out of it.

Again, NOT downing Halo 3, as I love the game, or the other games: but I know Bungie and the others could have done MUCH better given the talented developers they have in each studio.

[Syronicus]

If it never does I won't cry. I'll be too busy playing on the 360. Anybody that says this game could not be done on the PS3 is lying to themselves, PERIOD.

[FamilyGuy]

I know there's an exclusivity deal with this game but that statement makes me think it might be a timed exclusive.
I'm not interested in the game either way and up until about a month ago I never knew the older games had released on anything but the xbox. I always thought; MGS-PS2 * SpC-Xbox

I do like the objectives being written on the walls/backgrounds, it's just like the episode titles for "Heroes" which is pretty cool.

[really duh]

Sure it can.

[pain777pas]

This does not matter but neither does the word exclusive for third party developers.

[Greywulf]

http://image.com.com/gamesp...

That?

PS3 runs the 360's top graphical titles... Bioshock and Gears just fine. Shame they couldn't get the MGS4 engine working on the 360 though.

[Jaces]

Well duh, seeing the quality that the PS3 can produce in games this would be a no brainer.

Still though I'm glad they went 360 only, exclusives always tend to be better in quality than most multiplats because of the sole concentration of developing on one platform.

A port would be nice but I'll still end up getting this for the 360.

[darthv72]

"Shame they couldn't get the MGS4 engine working on the 360 though."

By "they" do you mean Konami or Hideo Kojima? Cause both of them said it could be done. Just because it can be doesnt mean it will. Business is business.

KZ2 could be done on the 360 but it doesnt mean it ever will.

[Gamertags]

But you and I all know it would be a grade or two under the 360 version. Just like all multiplatform games.

Before you cry foul, think about this: Recognizing and acknowledging the problems of a console does not constitute bias. On the other hand, willfully ignoring those problems while exaggerating the flaws in another console... You know who you are!

[Greywulf]

The PS3 runs the unreal engine fine. Which is 80% of the technically demanding 360 titles right there, and it runs UT3 specifically fine.

The 360 can't run kz2, uncharted2, gt5p, lbp, it can't even run Alan Wake in a sandbox engine, or have more than 8 cars on the road in forza, or run native 1080 lines. Yet some how you have some blind hope that its possible? based on what? No 360 games even do per-object motion blur let alone the laundry list of other things specific to NaughtyDog/GG Sony engines.I mean based on just developers word vs titles, the 360 has nothing to show. and it hasn't since the launch of the console..

It could turn into a dinosaur, I mean all things are possible right?

Yes multiplat games look a tiny bit better on the 360, while more technically advanced games --than any multiplat-- live specifically on the PS3 specifically.I think its safe to say most would take a better looking entire game, over one that ultimately looks worse than the PC version either way.

The 360 has nothing to show for itself when it comes to titles I can pick up right now that compete with the likes of Uncharted/Killzone2/MLB09 etc.

[GameGambits]

Also in a shocking twist it seems the sky is in fact the color BLUE when we gaze up at it!

REMARKABLE!

[Gamertags]

Seriously? If you think there is a game on the PS3 that the 360 can't handle you are dumber than a box of rocks!

Gosh these fans boys get on my nerves.

Before you cry foul, think about this: Recognizing and acknowledging the problems of a console does not constitute bias. On the other hand, willfully ignoring those problems while exaggerating the flaws in another console... You know who you are!

[mal_tez92]

I read the title, looked over at my copies of Drake's Fortune, MGS4 and Killzone 2, then let out a big DURRRRRR!

It's debatable which console has better graphics (and I know fanboys love debating it), but I'm just sticking to the facts. At the moment, the three aforementioned games are graphically a level above the 360. But with the release of Splinter Cell and Alan Wake, this gap will bw bridged and they will be on the same level.

When I look at which console seems to be improving much more rapidly, I can tell the PS3 is having constant advancements that are more noticeable than the Xbox. This leads me to believe that in the near future, the PS3 will streak ahead graphically, this is however just speculation as nobody knows for sure.

The correct answer to the question of: Which console has better graphics?
Is: I don't know... yet. We'll see.

[Jecht]

Your posts reek of fanboy, so kindly take that "by acknowledging a consoles' faults" crap off your posts. The quality of a game, yes even multiplats, is directly proportional to the work put into its development. If a game looks better on the 360 than on the PS3, it is NOT the PS3's fault, it is the DEVELOPERS fault. Period.

[Traveler]

It really isn't even the developer's fault either. At least not the way some people think. When a multiplatform game runs or looks a bit better on the 360 it is generally due to two factors.

One, the 360 is often the lead platform and the games are then ported to the PS3. Anybody that knows anything about porting knows that a port will almost always be slightly inferior.

Two, the PS3 has a unique architecture that can be extremely rewarding for those that put in the effort to learn it, but for the very same reason it is also a little more challenging. For developers that are focused on the 360, they are going to have a harder time tapping into the PS3's potential.

Recent games like Wanted: Weapons of Fate and Bionic Comando looked better on the PS3. So, it really is a matter of which console developers put the most attention towards. In any case, the differences between most multiplatform games these days are so minor that it really isn't even worth worrying about.

[Greywulf]

Theres like:

MGS4, Killzone2 & 32 people online, Resistance2 & 60 players online, Gran Turismo 5 prologue 1080i lines @ 60fps & Reflecting track vehicles, Little Big Planet, Motorstorm2, MLB09, Warhawk -32 online, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted 1 & 2, Wipeout HD, Flower.. I think im forgetting some? Oh yeah White Knight Chronicles @ 1080p. The 360 has yet to run any advanced engine in any form of 1080 or high number of players online.

I think most of them. The 360 hasn't shown any title that is running the level of resolution/textures/animation/ framerate/amount of models on screen/scale/stream loading/shader trees/post processing.

So far in the 360's graphical trophy area, you have.. the Unreal engine, which runs on the PS3. Again, the 360 hasn't shown it can run any technology close to ps3 exclusives since the 360 had a head start, with easier hardware to develop for. No PS3 engines have made its way to planet 360, and no 360 developer has the talent of say.. Naughty Dog to pull off anything other than hitting "swap mech marine" in kizmet.

In other words, unless you're talking about zooming in 5x to see a soft edge in the Ps3 version of Call Of Juarez, don't bother talking about graphics. The 360 can't go head to head with any PS3 graphical title, at all. Again, you can pretend it does.. and go on words. But eh, ill go on playing games that are released. The 360 has over 500 games, and not one can touch Motorstorm2 let alone Killzone2.

Microsoft spends money on repairing consoles and buying exclusive timed third party games. Sony spends money on quality titles with second to none technology behind them.

Just stick to talking about what all "real" gamers care about.. sales and pretending multiplatform games show off hardware power :)

pixelsword said it best:

"The fact is when exclusive games like Halo 3, crackdown, and America's Army: True Soldiers came out with underwhelming technical achievements within a comparable time frame and then Killzone 2 comes out putting everything else on the market to shame, it only goes to show what you put into the PS3 will directly correlate to what you get out of it."

The timeframe argument goes out the door with Uncharted 1 & 2 as well. its as if you guys have no ground outside of hoping the future will bring better performing games.

[darthv72]

Why is it so hard to believe that something could be made to work on something other than the originating console? With the right creative programmers you could take something as complex as kz2 and make it run on the psp. Kind of like how insomniac did for resistance. It is a great game on the psp. So then if it can be adapted to work on lesser hardware then why cant it be cross coded on a system of almost equal performance?

Obviously there are differences to the architecture but creative minds find a way. Some of the best stuff I have seen on the genesis was done in the later years when programmers really learned the system. Things that were not possible (scaling/rotation) in hardware were accomplished in software.

All I am saying is that there is no real technical reason for ANY game to not be able to be created and adapted to a system regardless of limitations. It may be a worthless argument but it makes you wonder if some of these exclusive companies have ever tried their ground breaking game on something else. Even if it was just to see if they could.

Realistically it would never get released because of licensing and publishing rights but it would be neat to find code for a 360 version of mgs4 or heavenly sword. We already know LBP was at some point pitched to the 360 but turned down due to MS user generated content policies. I bet those guys still have demos of that game for 360 in their office somewhere.

[Jecht]

here, this will put an end to it...

the 360 can run any game the ps3 can, but likely at a (sometimes large) loss somewhere. techincally, you are both correct.

[darthv72]

Thank you Jecht. Glad someone else can see that. Respect to you grey for sticking to your beliefs. Have a bubble.

[Syronicus]

Can the 360 handle over 300 different light sources at one time? Just asking because I have not seen it done and wonder if some tech guy could explain if that would be possible.

[Nineball2112]

Gamertags: "Before you cry foul, think about this: Recognizing and acknowledging the problems of a console does not constitute bias. On the other hand, willfully ignoring those problems while exaggerating the flaws in another console... You know who you are!"

Didn't I just just read this in my latest Game Informer magazine as a reply in one of the letters to the Editors?!?

I swear I did... I don't have it with me at the moment, but I think that's word for word what is in there.

[Mr Tretton]

lol, of course the PS3 could handle this game.

[belal]

everybody knows that ps3 could handle splinter cell, its the most powerful console out on the market right now.

so how can a console who is great but less owerful than ps3, outperform the ps3? where is the logic?

[raztad]

Some people here will argue with you about that.

On topic: Splinter Cell looks very good but is not a bar raiser, graphics-wise.

[LONEWOLF231]

That is true the Cell is a beast too bad that cant be said about the GPU though.

[pixelsword]

You can put some items directly to the RSX, and in some instances it's best to, but if you want to leverage the full effect of the PS3 performance wise, you process your data in a different way.

I'm going to write an article on it within two weeks, and hopefully I'll nail it, because I've read a few things and I think I figured out why multiplats translate so poorly from some people.

[mrblacknut]

The same reason why the PS2 was great but the Xbox was more powerful.

[PirateThom]

So, it'll be on PS3 in 6 months to a year?

[SpoonyRedMage]

Well they've so far said that's it full exclusivity but it does seem odd. Ubi Montreal has only made Xbox Splinter Cells though, the ports were done by Ubi Shanghai.

Game looks awesome anyway.

[Applegate]

Don't think so, not sure but one thing that's for sure is that I'll be playing it in October 2009, not end 2010.

[PirateThom]

Actually, Ubisoft Montreal have made Choas Theory for PS2/GC and Double Agent for PS2/GC/Wii as far as I remember.

I don't see why a PS3 release would be beyond the realms of any possibility. I'm not partcularly interested in the game anyway, I just don't see why we should be facing another timed exclusive fiasco.

[MegaMohsi]

Ubi isn't an exclusive developer, they've been developing multi-plat from last gen on, I definitely see a PS3 version coming out in 2010

[MegaMohsi]

hmmm timed exclusive? MS usually secures 3rd party games as timed exclusives so you never know, SC: Conviction PS3 could be out in Winter 2010

[Tinted Eyes]

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[The Wood]

I dont think so. The 360 needs an identity. Most of its games are timed or titles that were born elsewhere. I actually want the 360 to have real exclusives because it lacks them in my opinion. I just hope MS start acquiring more studios. If the fact that the last big game was halo wars all those months ago doesnt highlight issues with a lack of 1st/2nd party what does??

[OmarJA]

So it's coming to the PS3 after all...

Beside there is nothing special about the graphics, looks average.

[-MD-]

Actually it's not he just said the PS3 could run it which is obvious.

Don't get too excited over the false hope you give yourself.

[Mo0eY]

It doesn't matter anyway. It'll come to the PS3 after their contractual agreement has ended (roughly a year). Then it'll be ported to the PS3 with added features to make PS3 owners consider purchasing it. Fortunately, the PS3's lineup is oversaturated for 2010 so this game will be a bargain binner for me four years down the road.

[DonCorneo]

Several ps3 developers stated that their games are only possible on the PS3. Only the PS3 can handle immpresive games like MGS4, LBP, Killzone 2, and Uncharted etc. This outraged the xbots who are saying that this is just a marketing ploy. Xbots had a hard time accepting that these games are just not possible on their weaker console.

What now, xbots? Why did Ubisoft not say that Conviction is only possible on the crapbox? Are they not interested in marketing Conviction as a powerhouse exclusive?

Don't say that those PS3 games are only from 1st part developers. Konami sure is not.

It's just the truth, xbots. All games on the crapbox are possible on the PS3 but not all PS3 games possible on the crapbox. Just like PS2 game can be emulated on the PS3 but not vice-versa.

[ELite_Ghost]

obviously it can handle splinter cell, its using the unreal engine 2.5 (same as bioshock).

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

"Xbox 360 exclusivity is "purely a business decision" In other words "we don't give free handouts to gamers who never buy games and instead spend money on the next Blu-ray movie" Droids would buy the sh!t out of Slinter Cell the Movie. To bad, soooo sad Droids... you don't get to play the game that outshines anything in 2009 :D

[user3915800]

Wise decision in keeping it with the only true next gen console, jump in.

[cmrbe]

I never knew that true next gen console is suppose to have the highest failure rate in history of electronic devices.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Man, that's gotta sting if you're on the recieving end of that comment!

[Kleptic]

wait though...what 360 game couldn't the PS3 run?...thats a pretty obvious statement...the 360 does not have ONE title that shines on any real technical level...at least not compared to killzone 2 or MGS4...or upcoming games like Uncharted 2 or GOW III...

thats a simple statement grounded in fact...there is not one shred of evidence to illustrate otherwise...to this day, the best looking games on the 360 are multiplatform titles for the most part...or run on a multiplatform engine...Gears 2 looked hardly better than UT3, and a shot by shot comparison of the tech of Gears 2 LOST to Uncharted ONE...a game released over a year before...

you would be hard pressed to prove that the best looking game on the 360 right now is not CoD 4...Gears 2 is up there also, but both games have clear advantages over the other...

i'm not trying to make some stupid 'which system is more powerful' argument...that is irrelevant...the simple fact is that Sony has the people in the right places, and puts the money where it needs to be...to make the best looking console games ever created right now...this isn't some distant future that Sony is still PR'ing about...this is now, some of them already released...there was never a doubht that Convinction was 'only' possible on the 360...there is never a situation where that is the case...but however Sony and MS do business in this industry; the opposite is regularly apparent...

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Another nail in the 360's coffin

They are running out of exclusives at an alarming rate

First APB leaves 360 for PS3, then Mass Effect, now this? Thats effin priceless.

[JohnnyBadfinger]

OF Course that PS3 has better graphics, a toddler can point that out. I as a 360 fan boy can say that easy. There is absolutely nothing on the 360 that the PS3 cant run.

That been said there is nothing that i can see on the PS3 thats worth playing or buying a PS3 for. MGS 4?? GAY! Killzone 2??? another generic shooter GAY!! Uncharted 2???........ ok maybe thats 1 game i want and Grand Turismo, But my mate will probably be getting both those games so i will just pop around to his place and take a looksy.

the 360 still (imo) has the better games.

[MGOelite]

of course they could... its not as if we're talking about killzone 2 and the 360

[-MD-]

Please use Uncharted to bash the 360 capabilities as Killzone isn't even a good game. Uncharted on the other hand is actually worth playing and it looks amazing.

[360 man]

@ MGO elite

ha ha ha ur still using killzone 2

R.A.G.E graphically destroys killzone 2. so please stop embarrassing yourself

[talltony]

killzone 2 is a good game, I didnt like it at first but now they greatly improved the online with its better controls and new mid-size games. I was a massive cod 4 fan I have over 63,000 kills in cod4 and I know what makes a good fps and killzone 2 is great trust me.

[xcox]

killzone2 would instantly fry a 360: i'm actually in favor of a port just for the spectacle of xb!tches crying while their toaster burns

as did uncharted... MGS4... GT5P... and many others.
when uncharted 2 comes out, we'll bring back the buckets for the tears tsunami

as SPUs get used more, and the code gets optimized, the 360 just can't follow: i feel sorry for the poor old dog

lol at the attempt to even raise the possibility that PS3 couldn't handle any 360 game: HA!

[Gue1]

Now that's the string all the bots are holding to? How sad...

But now would be a good time for....: http://www.metacritic.com/g...

There you have it delusional bots! =D

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There's no worse thing than when you hit with the wall of reality. It is like somebody cutting your penis with a scissor.

[presto717]

"killzone 2 is not a good game."

"...graphically destroys killzone 2"

why the hell are people talking all this crap here?

[RockmanII7]

Gears of War - 94
Halo 3 - 94
Gears of War 2 - 93
Mass Effect - 91
Killzone - 91

Glad you agree.

[360 man]

'Killzone 2 will fry a 360'

is RAGE with all that detail running at 60fps frying the 360.

is Forza 3 with 1 million polygons per car frying the 360

NO so stop talkin BS

[xcox]

"is RAGE with all that detail running at 60fps frying the 360."
"is Forza 3 with 1 million polygons per car frying the 360 "

bullsh!t PR for morons: you're a marketing wet dream

dude, take that c0ck out of your mouth when you try to make a point: even f@ckin NXE fried POS360s

rofl

[Kleptic]

360 man...gtfo dude...where have you seen RAGE running at 60fps on a 360...i sure haven't...we have seen a tech demo on PC back in 2006...and a couple recent mag scans...and why are you using Rage anyway?...isn't that the game that Carmack himself said was being held back by the 360?...and that the PS3 version would have superior texture detail due to the fact that they can store uncompressed HD textures on the BD disc?...seems kind of funny to me; don't you guys get tired of using multiplatform titles to still fuel this stupid visual debate that ended a long time ago?...

I understand where you are coming from...ignoring a visual powerhouse like killzone 2...ignoring that a rival company delivered EXACTLY what they said they would...ignoring a game that has systematically unhinged your fanatical agenda to still scream that the 360 'gets the best looking games'...is simply easier...maybe its pride...maybe its ignorance...maybe its simple stupidity...whatever the case, its obviously the path of least resistance...something i'm sure you are all too familiar with...

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

OF COURSE IT CAN!!! ;)

What idiots think it can't then???(don't tell me i know!!!) ;-D

[Nelson M]

Oh Sorry !! You already knew that

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

That is who i was thinking of ;-D

[labaronx]

As Tecmo has pretty much shown everyone that signing a exclusive deal has it's loopholes... ninja gaiden 2 360 exclusive 2008, ninja gaiden sigma 2 ps3 exclusive 2009... with the differences, being for better or worse minor tweaks and a name change....

dont be surprised if other companies follow this process...

[BigMassacre]

Which is why Sony puts much of its faith in its First Party developers. They know they can't rely on Third Party too much. It's the best thing to do this generation.

[labaronx]

i agree... and im not saying it to offend anybody but it just seems that if i cut a check for an exclusive.... it should remain exclusive...

[MetalGearBear]

splinter cell conviction go on PS3? no thank.
i got MGS4, it has better texture, graphics, and story.
splinter cells can't beat MGS4's powerful review.

[-MD-]

*Head explodes*

[Mo0eY]

deafphat's comment is full of win because it made me chuckle.

[Man_of_the_year]

Good thing not all PS3 owners think as ignorantly as yourself. The more games a console has, the better the console has to offer potential buyers and current owners. Nobody would be forcing you to buy it...looking at current sales with PS3 games, looks like nobody is forcing anyone to buy games.

@ Mooey - Small things amuse small minds.
"Logic fail. *looks to his dusty Wii*" - maybe you need look further than what you own. Look at sales per games. Look at attach rates for the console. Your comment is so full of ignorance i don't even know where to begin educating you. Prove to me KZ2 can't be done on the 360. And a quote from Sony is not Proof.

[Mo0eY]

"The more games a console has, the better the console has to offer potential buyers and current owners. "

Logic fail. *looks to his dusty Wii*

@Above
Sure, insult my intelligence. You made two stupid comments back-to-back with the one below and the one above. Regardless of my preference for consoles, his comment would have been funny. Topped by Murderdolls' comment, I chuckled.

@Above again "Look at sales per games. Look at attach rates for the console. Your comment is so full of ignorance i don't even know where to begin educating you."
Where in your comment do you say sales per games and attach rates for the console? Maybe my comment wouldn't be so full of ignorance if I could've read your MIND when you typed your comment because that's what you're assuming. The Wii has the most games this generation, nothing more, nothing less. What does it have to offer that's so great to make people purchase it? Shovelware or a decent game every other season.

[Doletskaya]

I wonder what amount MS wrote on the check they gave Ubisoft for this business deal? Anyway,I think Splinter Cell Conviction will come to PS3 eventually.

[mastiffchild]

I doubt it will myself. This seems to have far more than a mere timed exclusivity deal on the go. The first, ripped up version of the game was exclusove too and indicates MS were in on that decission meaning, for me, that MS may be funding(partially at least)the project with Ubi on this occasion and are determined to reboot the franchise after a lacklustre last multi plat effort as a AAA exclusive for themselves.

I think the talk here of it being possible on PS3 is plainly to do with the fact that Ubi still make games for both Sony platforms.They do NOT want to be seen as slagging the system at all, annoying the userbase and alienating posible buyers of AC2 and ACPSP this autumn. It also indicates that they're confident coders on Sony platforms(which again is saying more about their other PS3 titles being likely to be high quality)as well as 360,PC and Wii-think of the outrage had they claimed it wasn't doable esp if it was, according to them, that the PS3 was lacking in some way.

I don't think for a second that what they say isn't true, mind, I just see it as them answering a question they were asked just about as well as they could and also in a way which gets fanboys and fans/users of both consoles talking about SCC! I , on the other hand, don't take it as any indication of a future PS3 version of this one at all-I really feel MS are prolly too heavily involved in SCC for it to happen.

The likes of Gears2, Fable2 and Alan Wake not getting PC releases might well show that MS are getting serious about combatting the number of real PS3 exclusives with some more games only playable on the 360 and taking the SC franchise back from it's multi platform fits this model pretty well even if it does have a PC release. Ubi, as a third party dev may be unwilling to dump their PC fans esp after saying it would def be avaiable on their machines

[cayal]

The only reason why I think it may eventually come to the PS3 is that Ubisoft have spent some time mentioning the PS3 when there is really no need for it to be mentioned in an exclusive game.

However that is no real indication of timed exclusivity.

[Man_of_the_year]

Ofcourse the PS3 can handle Splinter Cell. Just like the 360 could handle KZ2. But Sony Devs will never admit to that...not if they want to keep their jobs at Sony....remember that one employee who was fired because he said the 360 was clearly the better console.

Let me see if i can find that article...Here it is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

@ Mooey - Keep believing the BS that Sony Programs into you.

[Mo0eY]

LOL - keep telling yourself that KZ2 is possible on the 360.

[talltony]

You want proof that killzone 2 couldnt be done on 360? well ok here it is. Killzone 2 cannot be done on 360 because either the xbox devs are lazy as sh*t or it just cant do it because we have not seen anything remotely close to kilzones graphics on 360 yet. i need proof that it can just like anyone would and right now their is none so I am leaning towards the thought that it just cant...

[xcox]

you make me laugh so hard

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!

[Major_Tom]

You're just a dumbass.

[ultimolu]

The 360 can't handle Killzone 2.
It can't handle Uncharted.
It can't handle Gran Turismo.
It can't handle God of War.
It can't handle MGS4.

Do you realize that you'll have to do plenty of chopping if these games were to work on the 360? When it comes down to it, DVD isn't enough for these games.

[Lou-Cipher]

Maybe Killzone 2 can be done on the 360,
I wont say 100% that Killzone 2 cant run on a 360(maybe if its put on 3-4 discs and slightly dumbed down for the 360, then maybe)

But I can say that it will never be played on a 360 in this lifetime, and we cant say the same thing about Splinter Cell Conviction/ Mass Effect 1&2/ Left 4 Dead 1&2 and most of the 360's other so called EXCLUSIVES;)

This game is no different than any other Splinter Cell game. It comes to Xbox & PC first, and then it comes to Playstation later. that is how it has always been.

And BTW

Multi Platform = NOT EXCLUSIVE

PC is a gaming Platform
360 is a gaming Platform
PS3 is a gaming Platform
Wii is a gaming platform (kinda)haha

now when you can play a game on more than 1 of above listed Gaming Platforms, that game is considered Multi(more than 1) Platform, or NOT EXCLUSIVE. it is not hard to understand something as simple as that. Is it?

[solar]

got a lot of programmers here i see.

[Grown Folks Talk]

tell us things we already know?

[Doletskaya]

@Man_of_the_year
Regardless of the graphics and content in KZ2,tell me one exclusive 360 game that both allows 32 players online and maintains the quality of multiplayer like in KZ2.Then,I'll believe your BS that PS3 can handle KZ2.

[Man_of_the_year]

FrontLines Fuel of War. 50 Players online. FPS. Look it up. Since like you say "Regardless of the graphics and content".

More research = less questions = greater knowledge.

Looks like i have to address Mooey's Ignorance once again.

Mooey says "Second, Man of the Year's:
Doletskaya said, "maintains the quality of multiplayer like in KZ2"
Man of the Year replied, "FrontLines Fuel of War."

Looking at Metacritic (since it's the Xbots' #1 source), Frontline sits at a 75 and KZ2 a 91. Several of these reviews of Frontline criticized the multiplayer experience. Also, I noticed that Frontline is for the PC. Doletskaya said exclusive. In this example, Man of the Year just spews random facts trying to sound intelligent but falls flat on his face at the finish line."

Frontlines is not on PS3. Thus the game is exclusive to Consoles. PC is not a console as it can be upgraded to run the same game better. Therefor, the answer i provided Doletskaya is correct. Doletskaya asked "Regardless of the graphics and content in KZ2,tell me one exclusive 360 game that both allows 32 players online and maintains the quality of multiplayer like in KZ2.Then,I'll believe your BS that PS3 can handle KZ2." Since he is saying REGARDLESS, then graphics doesn't matter. And Frontlines maintains the same graphics in its multi player game as it does in its single player game. Scores has nothing do with the game as it was never stated in the original question. The original question asked name a game that has 32 players for online that is exclusive on the 360.

Mooey you are a complete moron. Please go back to school. Or since school is out, summer school. You really need the education in deductive/rational/reasonable thinking.

[KingKionic]

Front lines graphics were pretty bad .

Got boring after awhile .

[-MD-]

Wait... 32 players and maintains the "QUALITY" of Killzone 2?

Any game currently available that hosts 32 players online. Easy.

[Mo0eY]

Here folks - this is a lesson in reading comprehension. I'll use Murderdolls' and Man of the Year's ignorance as examples.

First, Murderdolls:
Doletskaya said, "...tell me one exclusive 360 game..."
Murderdolls replied, "Wait... 32 players and maintains the "QUALITY" of Killzone 2? Any game currently available that hosts 32 players online. Easy."

Notice he addressed the question, yet failed to answer it. Had he addressed and answered this question, he would have correctly comprehended what he read.

Second, Man of the Year's:
Doletskaya said, "maintains the quality of multiplayer like in KZ2"
Man of the Year replied, "FrontLines Fuel of War."

Looking at Metacritic (since it's the Xbots' #1 source), Frontline sits at a 75 and KZ2 a 91. Several of these reviews of Frontline criticized the multiplayer experience. Also, I noticed that Frontline is for the PC. Doletskaya said exclusive. In this example, Man of the Year just spews random facts trying to sound intelligent but falls flat on his face at the finish line.

Thanks for playing.

[KingKionic]

Mooey is correct .

[-MD-]

I answered the question with "Any game currently available that hosts 32 players online. Easy." Sorry you were unable to catch that part.

Here I'll be more precise and say PDZ hosts 32 players and matches Killzone 2's "quality" and even exceeds it.

Notice I put quality in quotations because the game is terrible. Owned thanks for playing.

Kionic wtf are you high on today? Don't agree with this tool.

Edit: "Have a bubble Mooey,you pretty much owned both of them to death lmao." - No, no he didn't in fact his entire post failed before it even began.

[Erotic Sheep]

Have a bubble Mooey,you pretty much owned both of them to death lmao.

@ Murderdolls: Your ignorance is showing. You're stating your own opinion on this claiming any game with 32 players online is better than Killzone 2. No matter how big you feel about this, KZ2 has a good online and the reviews back this up as more proof. Atleast have some respect for a good game when it's there, same reason I believe Bioshock is an amazing FPS and Alan Wake looks like an awesome game I'd love to play.

[djtek184]

i have to agreed with mooey

[PotNoodle]

Even if this game ever came to the PS3, i'm not prepared to wait. I'm buying the 360 version the day it comes out, screw my preferences - this game looks too amazing for me to mess around picking favourites.

[CryWolf]

Murderdolls you see how you got aggressive with OmarJA I call that fear, so ps3 is making a come back its only a matter of time before it Catches up to 360 in console sales and in game sales also.

[-MD-]

I just call that trolling but whatever you say.

[Nelson M]

He's a Goth and He like's to Troll
He Come's on Here with his lies
Wear's Purple Eyeliner round his Eye's

Look out it that Silly Little Numpty Bot Goth
Eat's his lunch out of a Troff
He's Got a Poster of David Hasslehoff
It's Murderdoll The BotGoth

[Shane Kim]

Hahaha nice one Nelson :D

[Major_Tom]

Lol okay that's funny Nelson bubbles.

[djtek184]

lol nelson , have a bubble

[dirthurts]

I hope the PS3 owners get a chance to play it one day.
But for now, I'm ready to play it on my 360.

[Doletskaya]

I remember there was a dude from Ubisoft come out and say that they made Splinter Cell Conviction a 360 exclusive because the Slinter Cell franchise had a kind of special connection with 360 and they could make the game better if they focused on 360 only.Now it seems like these talk is purely BS.

[Claudinho69]

some journalists asks the stupidest questions

[Crystallis]

This game is Timed exclusive, but im not waiting. Although I would love to play this on my ps3 this game needs to be played day 1 of its release.

[KingKionic]

We will have to wait out to see if this is a timed exclusive . Has been done many times before by Microsoft .

[Doletskaya]

@Man_of_the_year
That's it?You can only come up with a game that is also available on PS3?And anyone who plays that game knows it sucks.

[Nelson M]

On Damage Control Duty in here
Ask yourself one Question BoTs
Do the PS3 owners want this 2nd rate Metal Gear Wannabe

[Odion]

Its been a busy day got 13 trolls so far today

[Babypuncher]

reported as off-topic. i don't see the need to brag about how many trolls you "got" today. how did you become a mod?

[Odion]

Its a warning that I am watching this thread and throwing bans out.

[Ninji]

"Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction Lead Designer Steven Masters has told Kikizo that his team "could absolutely execute on PS3", and that the game's Xbox 360 console exclusivity is entirely a question of "business"."

I'm sure the PS3 version will get exclusive content and bug fixes after the xbots are done beta testing the game for bugs.

[Doletskaya]

@Nelson M
I am not a PS3 fanboy so I must admit I want this game and I think I'll enjoy it more than I do with MGS4.

[Nelson M]

Because your a BoT !!!

And the BoTs need to know this
There aint a Chance in Hell the Xbox could handle Metal Gear 4
Now Damage Control that BoTs

[Mizz_mai]

screw this im going to play too human....no

[divideby0]

"business decision" = beep, beep....MS backs up truck and dumps $$ to retain the exclusive.

even us dumb gamers can surmise that

[Socomer 1979]

The xbutts are making me laugh listing games they think the xbox360 can "Handle" !!! LOL !

You guys live in a alternate reality.

Heres a list of games Xbutts believe the 360 could run:

REsistance 2 ! LOL !
MGS4 LOL !
Killzone 2 ! LoL !
Littlebigplanet LoL !

Dreams !

The only game they have is frontlines and that game sucked and was technically retarded ! Laggy ! BROKEN !

Oh Xbutts, please stop my sides hurt.
You guys really need a game with some proof. Not 1 xbox exclusive that raises the bar other than the hard on you got for ghaLO!

[Doletskaya]

@Nelson M
Can you be rational?There's no need to be a fanboy.
Splinter Cell Conviction definately looks sweet,so why won't I want it on my PS3?This game obviously makes the players feel more like a stealthy operatore than MS4 does.

[SpartanZero]

The 360 truley is the most powerful console this gen. The reason why killzone2 is graphics king is because microsoft wanted to give sony the lead in the graphics department and then take over. Halo Reach will be untouchable and will show why the 360 is more powerful.

[Lord_Ranos]

do u know what ur talking about??

[Erotic Sheep]

http://www.motifake.com/dem...

[cereal_killa]

Whatever this Muppet is smoking I would hope he would share this tool is in LALA land. That or he has his Muppet fanboy goggles on to tight

http://www.wallpapergate.co...

[Major_Tom]

Wow.....

[presto717]

I honestly dont know what to say. Have you been living under a rock?

[ShadowCK]

Yes, The PS3 can handle Splinter Cell: Conviction. Just like the Xbox 360 can handle Resistance, Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4, it's no big deal. However, the fact remains that Splinter Cell: Conviction is NOT coming To PS3.

Here's the official statement they gave to VG247:

"Splinter Cell Conviction is a true Microsoft exclusive title and there are no plans to have Splinter Cell Conviction on other platforms."

Usually in the official press release, they mention all platforms the game is coming to. This was the official announcement press release for Splinter Cell Conviction. The absence of PS3 in the article means that it is currently, in no tangible sense, being planned for a PS3 release. If it was, that would have been in the announcement.

Socomy and Ninji's retardation make me want to eat my foot.

[KingKionic]

Well this only means they haven't worked on the ps3 version .

[Varsarus]

"Just like the Xbox 360 can handle Resistance, Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4, it's no big deal"

Oh really?, I would like to see it try, make sure your fire extinguisher is next to you though.

[Jack Klugman]

come on they are the crazy ex girlfriends of this generation of gaming. they need a little pep talk every day or they start getting all teary eyed and start to cry. then tfollowed by spreading lies, denial and then they are relegated to retard and start using fire extinguisher jokes. imagine if 360 fans were still making grilled burger jokes about the ps3? at least 360 fans seem to know when a joke is no longer funny. but these droids are mainly 15-17 year old nerds who are beat on in life daily so dont expect them to know better.

i mean they bought ps3's and they insult the HD console of this generation. not the smartest people you are dealing with here.

[Socomer 1979]

"Just like the Xbox 360 can handle Resistance, Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4,"

please name 1 game that even comes close as proof. your faith is strong but envy is a path to the darkside.

your comment is all the proof i need to know that you are a child. a little kid. new to gameing and the only way you saw a ps3 game run was thru youtube. Good luck with your blind faith. I feel like a american talking to some goat poker in afghanistan. go kick rocks dude.

[Shane Kim]

"and the only way you saw a ps3 game run was thru youtube"

Hahahha that comment made me laugh so much :D

[devilhunterx]

spin it all the way you want. XB2 fans got a big middle finger.

[keysy420]

a reason why 360 exclusives look a little better is because they are utilizing more power on the 360 to run multiplats. they dont push the ps3 to its potential to make multiplats.

[Jamaicangmr]

That's a waisted statement, who in the world being of sound mind ever thought the PS3 couldn't hand this?

However whats like a giant "F U" is this part "purely a business decision"

[PS360PCROCKS]

Um didn't they just say it was because it started on xbox and they wanted to completely max the 360?

[Gamer_Politics]

ubisoft games always have probelms running on that ps3 hardware so why would they waste their money and time

[Waldex]

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIGHT IN THE BOTTOMCHICKS!!!!!!

[TheTruth89]

This news CONFIRM that Splinter Cell is already in development for the PS3, and they are just waiting for the expire date of the "DVD Capable 360°C Mini-Furnace" exclusive contract.

And,

360 can't handle both KZ2 and MGS4... want a proof?

-->DVD<--

[Gamer_Politics]

360 can run those games things would just have to be compressed...

[TheTruth89]

both games can't be compressed to 9GB only.

[Gamer_Politics]

any game can be compressed down to fit the dvd format...might just be more than 1 disc though

[ricaesarfer]

Exclusivity are always a matter of bussiness. MGS is the last of the example.

[BreakNeckSpeed]

All you fanboy idiots need to get a job and buy both Consoles ( 360 and PS3). Stop arguing over something so f*cking minuscule. Which ever console Conviction arrives on be happy that its even coming out and play the game for what it is. Calling it sh*t wont solve anything.

[RockmanII7]

But its open zone. where everyone gets to be D-Bags with no consequences.

[MaximusPrime]

I love splinter cell on xbox. It was one of the few games i enjoyed when i had xbox 1 and 360.
Its a shame that sc conviction not coming to ps3. Love to play it.
Of course, ps3 can handle ANY xbox 360 games, xbox 360 on the otherhand.... Well...

[SlaughterMeister]

Who ever thought it couldn't?

[II Necroplasm II]

I remember Hiphopgamer saying the game had trouble running on PS3.

[Jamaicangmr]

He says anything for hit.

[II Necroplasm II]

That was my point...hahahaha

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

does anyone else feel the "we could absolutely execute on PS3" comment feels out of place we know PS3 can run this just as good as 360 look at KZ2 a perfect example of the technical abilities of PS3 but yeah hopefully this game will be a hit

[sGIBMBR]

ofcourse it will be a hit, its a 360 exclusive... When do you recall a hyped 360 exclusive sell poorly?

[MegaMohsi]

sales =/= hit

[BreakNeckSpeed]

"The game does not work on the PS3 as it's not been made for that platform - we don't even have any PS3 devkits near the devteam!"

- Ubisoft Community developer.

[Major_Tom]

Except the excerpt obviously makes you wonder.

I doubt that this is going to hit PS3 but you never know nowadays.

[Jack Klugman]

no no no no it's coming! just as sure as this year is the year of the ps3 and so was last year and so will be 2010, 11 and 12.

come on dude you are dealing with people disconnected from reality who spend there days here on n4g in ignorance. let them go. they are just jokes now. look at most sites and see who is the biggest idiots and made the most fun of... ps3 droids! big surprise!

[piramides30]

Splinter Cell Conviction is nothing of other world.

[sugard0]

You never hear devs that make exclusives for 360 or owners of 360 saying such and such exclusive game on 360 cannot be done on PS3, and you only hear devs making exclusive games for PS3 (even studios that have developed on 360 before. Tecmo anyone?) or PS3 owners saying that a PS3 exclusive cant be done on 360. You also only hear 360 owners saying that a game like LBP, Uncharted 1, and MGS4 can be done on 360 but there is no doubt in anyones mind that Gears of War 2 the best graphical game on 360 can be done on PS3. Isnt that weird?

[Xi]

I have yet to hear that from any credible source.

[baodeus]

@surgard0

Ofcourse PS3 exclusive game can't be done on 360.....what do you want developers to do....we gonna program this to the SPU....oh...wait...360 doesn't have that....

They can make PS3 exclusives games on the 360 but they have to program them the conventional way and u know what, it will looks just as good.

Here is what most developers say:

PS3 has a slightly better CPU
360 has a slightly better GPU

Give and take, they are pretty much even from what I have seen so far (including PS3 exclusive games.....i seriously don't see the phenomenal things that u guys are seeing.....)

[freitox]

A slightly better cpu? According to the CREATOR of BOTH chips the Cell is 2.5 times more powerful than the Xenon. The 360 gpu does have better AA.

[Xi]

Just like killzone 2 oculd be done on the 360, the question is what type of hit would the quality take.

[The_Zeitgeist]

No brainer.

[ultimolu]

Um...why not? =/
It has the capabilities to do so.

[ian72]

If it was released on PS3 I would have bought it for that. But as It isn't I will get it for PC as long as it is still been released on PC, due to not having a 360. Hope so as I loved all the other Splinter Cell games(played them all).

[QuantumWake]

I can't wait for a port to come. This is a game I need to play on Day 1 of its release. I am a huge fan of the Splinter Cell series and I cant wait to get this one. The way they changed so much stuff in the game is amazing. Ubi is taking a whole new direction for Conviction.

As for this talk about a PS3 port. Its likely. Conviction must be a timed exclusive for the 360. Maybe the PS3 will get Conviction on a later date and will be ported by Ubi Shanghai.

[tiamat5]

All of us Sony owners all ready know this. Splinter Cell is no big deal. Sony can handle anything that is on the Xbox 360 and more. If the developers would make it for the PS3 first and then make the Xbox 360 version instead of vice versa we would get a good version too. If they would stop making the 360 version and then try to squeeze it on to the PS3. I mean look at the games that are made by Sony's close supporters like Insomniac and Sucker Punch. The make very good games that play excellent and are very satisfiying. Personally I hate Tom Clancy games like Splinter Cell and Rainbow Six.I hate generic games that just do the same thing over and over again. But if it would help the PS3 sales I hope for a timed release. Otherwise screw you Tom Clancy.

[josephayal]

OF COURSE THE PS3 CAN RUN SPLINTER CELL CONVICTION WITH BETTER GRAPHICS, COZ THE PS3 IS %16 MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX 360

[Xtremist]

Nobody said that it couldn't come to ps3.
Heck the original SC was possible to ps2 so who could said to opposite for ps3?
Now, how many graphical features would missing from the ps3 version, this is another lenghty discussion...

[PHIL1017]

YEAH IT WILL COMING TO PS3 ONE DAY. YOU BETTER WATCH!

[cmrbe]

UBI gets the most money from the PS3 anyways so i now they don't want to anger their most profitable userbase.

Anyway. How ever thought that SC couldn't be done on the PS3?.

[ShadowCK]

"Oh really?, I would like to see it try, make sure your fire extinguisher is next to you though."

No one thinks you're funny, and I cannot take you seriously due to your lame humor. Go cry on your PatchStation Plx.

"please name 1 game that even comes close as proof. your faith is strong but envy is a path to the darkside."

Please don't give me Star Wars lesson, I just named three games. Are you stupid or something?

"your comment is all the proof i need to know that you are a child. a little kid. new to gameing and the only way you saw a ps3 game run was thru youtube. Good luck with your blind faith. I feel like a american talking to some goat poker in afghanistan. go kick rocks dude."

LOL. Afghanistan?

Next thing, You'll be worshiping the Playstation in your basement with candles. But ask yourself, If I'm a kid about five years old from afghanistan then why can I spell better than you and act more maturely?

"360 can run those games things would just have to be compressed..."

Thank you Gamer Politics. At least you have a brain.

[kaveti6616]

Ya, no sh*t

Doesn't everybody know by now that Splinter Cell Conviction is running off Unreal Engine 2.5?

I apologize for any Xbox fanboy that said that this game couldn't be done on PS3.

I still got my fingers crossed for that proprietary engine that Microsoft is supposedly working on for the 360. I'm willing to bet that if developers made more proprietary engines for the 360, then PS3 fanboys would stop trashing the 360s graphics. There's a lot of power under that white chassis.

[DaTruth]

That's how you know MS doesn't really care about gaming; They are a software company that doesn't make games even though they have gaming hardware!

Can't believe people would want to see Sony(20 plus gaming devhouses) finished in gaming, for a company that cares so little for gaming they can't be bothered to even make a game... and they're a software company!

[kaveti6616]

I agree only partly with you, but you're forgetting the fact that Microsoft doesn't have enough TIME and RESOURCES to develop the software that will in conjunction with the hardware. Microsoft doesn't have 20+ first party studios to take one aside and tell them to create an engine. Sony fanboys are saying the 360 has no games in 09, so maybe that's what MS has been working on.

[Pootangpie]

and we all know how that turned out LOL

[HDgamer]

Can you say Splinter Cell Conviction Gaiden? Tecmo has found a way to get around the "exclusive" titles. Also I don't know why my comment was deleted it's the same post as this. Not spam.

[Pootangpie]

it's sony's IP it the 360 can easily handle Killzone 2 at the same or higher quality the real answe it's not going to happen because sony's not going to let it however since it is a PS3 exclusive it's easy for sony to say it can't be done on 360 since it's not going to happen because it's ****ing exclusive as for ninja gaiden 2 itakugi was the main reason why it was exclusive tecmo screwed MS by doing this little loophole I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lawsuit later

[freitox]

No it can't. Killzone 2 use the SPUs a lot, the 360 would instantly not handle it without a major quality drop.

[HDgamer]

360 Doesn't have a game near Uncharted quality let alone Killzone 2 visual quality. That system has been out longer than the ps3 and yet those type of games aren't available yet? That makes people think the xbox 360 isn't as powerful as advertised. Or there are very lazy developers who don't think they can achieve that.

[downwardspiral]

come on you know its gonna happen.

[Claudinho69]

xbox 360 is holding back multiplat games quality!!

[pennstatefan1993]

They might be able to get the graphics down, but all of the small things would disappear, like the extensive background animations and all of the little moving parts like in the factory/refinery levels. The PS3 was maxed out because all of the little things, so they would have to cut those out to be smooth on the 360.

Anyway, its just a timed exclusive. PS3 will have it by next year.

[Troll_Police]

PS3 maxed out? Guerrilla Games said that they only used 60% of the PS3's power. Hardly maxed out.

[J@D]

It sound more like... here the huge check for me exclusivity and lips seals*until now of course!*

[Jack Klugman]

it could but it won't! so why make a story about it?

i think devs know the fragile mind of the droids this gen and are saying everything they can to make them feel better because like crazy ex-girlfriends they whine and cry louder than any generation ever in gaming. if one thing we will remember about this gen is how the ps3 people make themselves look like absolute fools. truly the joke of this generation.

[Tinted Eyes]

but your the one running around mindlessly bashing the sony fanbase, does it make you feel better with the lack of games?

[ssipmraw]

"it could but it won't!"

yeah just like ninja gaiden II

dont deny the fact that anything can happen

[Britney Spears]

Time exclusive confirmed,just in case there was any denial.

[macalatus]

My fellow Sony gamers, I believe that it is now the time to drop our animosity towards the 360 gamers! Ubi's recent announcement that the PS3 CAN actually handle a 360 exclusive means that Ubi is going to "pull a Tecmo"!

Splinter Cell: Conviction may release first for the 360, but hear this my Sony gaming friends...the 360 gamers will play a FULLY PAID beta version of the game! Their feedback and comments about the game's glitches and flaws will only shape the SUPERIOR version when it finally comes out for the PS3! Splinter Cell is just one of the games in a growing trend like C&C: Red Alert and Ninja Gaiden Sigma II in which 360 owners get to play the beta version!

For this reason alone, we, as classy, mature, and intelligent gamers of N4G, should give a full "hats off" to our 360 gaming brethren! Their gaming experiences and "$60-a-game" sacrifices only serves to better our own Sony gaming experiences!!

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

[baodeus]

oh no malacatus again?????????/

Man of all the fanboys, this guy is the worst? I thought they ban u for good. Can u come up with anything else better?

1. My fellow Sony gamers
2. For this reason alone, we, as classy, mature, and intelligent gamers of N4G (from what....proud to support only PS3 or Sony)

Oh dear lord, only people who own certain game console are consider intelligent, classy and mature now. See what the corporate did to this poor fellow?

One of my friend once went out with this guy, and it was probably the worst blind date she ever had (this was when she still study in UCLA). The guy hate kids because he doesn't want to "communicate" with such unintelligent being. This is practically the same as what malacatus is saying.....It is absurd.

I have never seen anyone so stupid as to make such comment like these on N4G over and over again and again.....again....and again.... Can someone send this guy to the open zone or something? I thought u went back to school to be educated or something cause seriously u need it. If there is a Nobel prize for being stupid, u will probably get it for sure.

[jaseo]

they get the money from MS, while not making ps3 users anti-Ubi.

[stonecold3]

as it was advertise here in australia under eb games whats coming for ps3 and developers have stated 360 was pushed to the limits and killzone 2 would not be done on 360 and little big planet team developer have stated once in a mag that 360 could not handle little big planet with forza 3 coming with 3 or either 2 dvds and gt5 on one blu ray we all know ps3 leaps and bounds over 360 in graphics xbox is nearly 4 years old its pretty much out dated when ou compare it to the ps3 and final fantasy 13 coming see how much the bot got to do the disk swapping and how much last gen dvds will come with xbox version of dvds even doom for on xbox is going to run on 3 dvds xbox has shown its age rip 2005 to 2009

[vShinobi]

Is this new to anyone? i mean its a rather low blow for fanboys but for everyone else its like "Ok we already knew"

[boss_killa]

yawn.

[Knightofelemia]

Nothing new with developers doing this sorta thing watch it will be on the 360 for a year then it will end up on the Ps3 Like Ninja Gaiden and Tales of Vesperia .

[dark_101]

tg i have an XBox !!

[GraySnake]

but i do not like the way ubi is taking this game... it just seems to be a loose copy of taken meets jason bourne. The seemd to be gearing it up for more action...not the cat and mouse type gameplay they used to have... hell it might be a great game as its coming from ubi mont but still i got this feeling about it... anybody sorta agree with me? if not please tell why dont just phantom disagree me.

[2FootYard]

I think everybody in here could use a speedball.

[BrianC6234]

So Ubisoft can make this game for the PS3 but because they don't need more money they won't make it? Is that what they're saying? It must be. If they can make a good port of the game it would make more in sales than it would cost to make the game. What kind of business decisions are they making at Ubisoft?

[horndog]

they always get the leftovers. The better version will be on ps3 afterwards someone said? Like Bioshock? or like Ninja Gaiden 2? which is being toned down in Gore. Ghost Recon 2, Orange box, Rainbow six Vegas and so on. Better versions? LOL. I do hope ps3 only owners do get it though since this games looks like a lot of fun and I do hope that they get a version just as good as the 360 or better if it ever comes out for it. I know what is like to get a half assed port from the gamecube days. I hope ubi spends the time to make it look good on the ps3 unlike other lazy developers who don't want to spend the time or resources after making a killing on the 360.

[BSciEngTech]

Microsoft fans have got to be some of the most uneducated and retarded people on the planet. A game like Killzone 2, can absolutely not be done on the 360. Here is a list explaining why it cannot be done;

-Xbox 360 does not have the capacity and streaming capabilities and speeds of a blu-ray drive. The game would be gimped in so many ways, from graphics, sounds, textures, loading times, real time wave tracing( for those of us with a 7.1 SS set-up) etc.

-CPU and GPU combination of the PS3 is just a computational beast compared to the 360. There will be too much framerate hiccups and it would run very unstable with the amount of things going on from physics, graphics, wave tracing, lighting, absolutely everything on screen is too much for the tri-core cpu to handle even with the gpu. especially outputting this amount of madness would be totally gimped, this game would absolutely not be able to be played in HD on the 360 even with half the amount of things going on, on screen. The 360 is just not powerful enough.

-Developers. Microsoft just does not have the type of dedicated developers and tactics like sony. They are too money hungry and would not invest that much money and time for the enjoyment of their customers. Look at all their other products....

I can seriously keep going but I've gotta study for a test and I've been playing FF7 non-stop. Die Microsoft ...die

PS. the xbox 360 would definately RROD running something like K2... Sony is on a whole new level compared to the xbox 360. Microsoft is still stuck in the last gen, and it shows with all their products. They do nothing but milk their retarded followers and the general public by gimping everything they produce(windows)....

[baodeus]

^^^
and so one fanboy calling another fanboy retarded followers. This is the problem with fanboy, they only see faults in others but never in themselves. (*looking at Malacatus*).

What happen to people just like playing games. I'm pretty sure 140 million + of PS2 owner are retarded followers when they should have bought the xbox which is technically more advance. For the current gen, do u also mean 50 mil+ people are retarded for buying the wii? I seriously don't know how u guys get such pride from owning a certain console?

Keep saying it and im pretty sure Sony gonna close out soon cause i don't see how other people would want to buy the PS3 so that they can turn into brainless and faithful fanboy. (hopefully this stuff doesn't go out of N4G).

[heylo]

bu... bu... but the RSX and 256MB
yeah what about it??

[ssipmraw]

lol the xbiatches just got told off

[OmegaSlayer]

I think that I can voice a great amount of PS3 fanboys if I say that I really appreciate Ubisoft clear and honest approach, as I appreciated Rockstar approach with GTA DLCs.

What we don't like are maybes, buts, no comments, we don't speak at the moment, please don't ask us, etc...

[life doomer]

Can someone answer this question please? Was splinter cell conviction ever mentioned at Microsoft's e3 conference?

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Yo Murderdolls, He said KZ2 quality and Front lines is no where near KZ2 quality so running 32 players online while keeping the same crappy quality graphics for Front lines is easy because there's not much going on screen in the first place.

WARNING!!: Bot's stay out of this article otherwise you'll be owned!.

[donnie-2105]

the ps3 could do a version of splinter cell but going of the vast majority of games that are on both consoles the 360 will have the graphically superior game(DOUBLE AGENT ANYONE), by how much we"ll never know.UBI making a buissness decision not to publish conviction on ps3 is worrying for sony as most publishers are starting to complain about the costs of developing on the ps3 oddball archeitecture combined with its poor hardware/software sales figures.

[rjgbyrne]

Xbox will hit november but it would be great for PS3 to get this, I love the Splinter Cell games and they have always been ported, just like Bioshock, don't leave it too late Ubi?

[life doomer]

Can someone answer this question please? Was splinter cell conviction ever mentioned at Microsoft's e3 conference?

[OmegaSlayer]

Yes it was.

@donnie
the problem is not about the console, is about the incapacity of devs.
Actually, devs should stay silent, since KZ2 and Uncharted 2 show what PS3 can do (and 360 can't), if the game doesn't deliver on PS3 it's their fault, and should blame themselves, not Sony.

[matchgrade]

pointless article. If it runs on 360, we'll just assume it can run on the PS3, mmkay?

[Pootangpie]

only difference is PS3 is not good at handling ports because of it

@BSciEngTech Did sony tell you that probably did and like the sap you are you believe them like I said before it's there IP it's excludive to the PS3 they can pull out any stupid copout they want to make it seem like the PS3 is more powerful even though they flatout know it's not going to happen since It's THERE ****ING IP Heck nintendo can come out and claim that Zelda can only be done on the wii since you know it's a nintendo franchise DUH if killzone 2 really can't be done on the 360 why doesn't sony allow it to be ported to the 360 I mean if it really can't be done then maybe they could actually prove it but no they know it's not going to happen because it's exclusive I'm sorry but if sony actually wants someone to believe them that there system is more powerful there going to have to find a game that's you know multiplatform to make that claim similar to how Splinter cell wasn't exclusive to the Xbox yet it looked 10 times better on the Xbox completly smokeing the PS2 version unfortunatly all mulitplatform games the 360 seems to be able to handle either at better quality or equal

[Meryl]

^^ stop embarrassing yourself pootangpie
the ps3 architecture is completely different and if game developers do not design and developer their games properly thats when you will see the differences in multiplats (x360 running at higher resolution)
the xbox 360 cannot not handle physics and the intense amount of objects on screen (aka kz2) yes it could do the graphics, but not the whole package as the kz2 would run at something like oooh lemme think if gow runs at 30ps then im thinking hmmm maybe 10fps if its lucky, there is just way too much going on to handle for the xbox to handle.
the cell rules // end rant