Gears of War 2 not coming to PC

In an IGN interview with Cliff Bleszinski, it was revealed by Cliff that Gears of War 2 would not be coming to the PC. The point of interest came up in a question about Gears 2's "Linked Achievements" and the Achievement portability with an account from Games for Windows Live.
When prompted about a PC version of Gears 2, Cliff spilled the beans: "Gears of War is a great franchise first and foremost for Xbox 360, and therefore we're focusing on that platform for Gears of War 2. We've decided we're not going to do a PC version this time around."

[Rick Astley]

Hey that's what they said about Gears of War and look what happened.

[Fishy Fingers]

Exactly, in this day and age you can't trust them when it comes to claims like these.

Still I'll pick it up for the 360 and if a year later it surfaces on the PC and I enjoyed it enough first time round I'll pick up for both. Thats what happened with Gears 1.

[Hentai]

It's not coming out to PC this year.

[switch-it]

They have to say it isnt comming out for PC at this point. If they did it might hurt sales a little bit, because some people would wait for the PC version instead of the X360.

[PimpHandStrong]

he is full of sh!t

this time next year you will see a PC version!

[Proxy]

Games are developed on PC, and then (I wouldn't say ported) fitted to the console. Especially in the 360's case. When they're ready for some easy money next year they'll make a few small adjustments and release the game on PC. When something is so easy, and has the potential to be profitable, why wouldn't they?

[Utalkin2me]

Actually, that it is not what they said. They never said there wouldnt be a PC version sorry.

[Calvin_ISA]

You can't prove it won't happen. 'Nuff said.

[TheMART]

And you can't proof that it WILL happen.

Nuff said

Really. This wouldn't be so strange. Actually this could be a strategy thought out by Microsoft. Just check this:

1. Epic already announced that the Unreal Engine 4 will only be on consoles because of bad sales on the PC.
2. UT3 sold shiat on the PC compared to the console sales. Pirates are mainly on the PC
3. Gears of War played better on the 360, it sold somewhere around 6 mln copies on the 360. On the PC it sold how many exactly?
4. Microsofts strategy: get PC gamers hyped about Gears of War 1, the group that normally wouldn't buy a console also. They're hooked on the game, want to play Gears of War 2. Oooopppssss only on 360, now they will buy a 360 and Gears 2.

They get extra sales on hardware and software.

@ Proxy

Also an answer to your question: Microsoft could have negotiated that in the deal for the 360. So even if Epic would want it (read above why they won't), Microsoft could have written this out as a strategy

[zag]

lol, PC gamers with a $2,000 to $5,000+ rushing out to pick up a half arsed 360 that breaks down when ever the going gets too hot.

I never played gears of war but I've tried some of the pure 360 games ported to the PC and they are pretty crap ports, poor GFX, slow running games/programs then very limited in how it works compared to a pure PC game.

[gaffyh]

Total BULL spewing from his mouth, there WILL be a PC version, they just want people to buy the 360 one, and then they'll release it on PC with extra content so you have to buy it again....no need to lie about it Cliff.

[IzKyD1331]

exactly, they said there wouldnt be a PC version of Gears 1 and look what happened there

[TheMART]

Have you thought about the fact for one moment...

That they wanted to lure gamers to Gears 1 on the PC, got them mad about playing Gears 2 on their PC and suddenly... They can only play it on the 360?

Exactly. Massive sales for the 360 + Gears 2.

[pp]

Well driods you hear that if you want to play the best shooter in the world you driods will have to get a xbox360 Hahahahahhahaha

[Fishy Fingers]

"best shooter in the world"

No such thing, only best shooter in the World in my opinion. For me CS:S is the greatest FPS due to it's highly competitive nature. Now I'm not wrong because thats my opinion and I can only speak for myself.

"in my opinion" is something you really need to come to terms with.

[LarVanian]

I don't think so. Resistance 2 is exclusive to PS3, it won't be on Xbox PleaseFixMe.

[juuken]

..With action figures?

Um...no.

If you want a shooter with an engaging storyline, you'll have to save those pennies for a PS3.

Resistance 2 is that game.

[Pain]

If this game like all game for windows was on PC it would REALLY show the Xbox 2's Lack luster ability.

hello its 2008/9 PC gamer's dont want 2005 games.

And M$ Pay off confirmed.

and best Shooter in the world is WARHAWK. JUMP PACKS FTFW. u play your 5v5 pay to play ..ill Play 16v16 Free insane combat .lag free to boot.

[snoopgg]

like pp, then get a ps3 and resistance 2 and killzone 2. I think yur better off with the second option. I know I will be doing that. Who wants to play against or with a arse like pp anyhow?

[TheMART]

Gears 1:

http://www.gamerankings.com...

9.4 out of 10

http://www.gamerankings.com...

Resistance 1: 8.7 out of 10

R2 looks bad in graphics, like Resistance 1.5.

One must be mad choosing R2 over Gears 2. Oh wait, Sony fans are about quantity over quality. I get it.

@ Juuken

I bet you're a fat girl crying yourself to sleep every night. Save your pennies for some more food. It'll give you more comfort then the PS3. Oh and if you have some money left, buy a Wii. It would do you good.

[M337ING]

Unless I'm mistaken, Metacritic and Gamerankings agree that Half-life 2 is the best shooter in the world.

[spoon]

I dont lyk FPS games but i lyk games lyk resident eveil 4

and this is one of the Third person games i want on ps3.

but still wont buy it . hahah . i justwant it to laf at the 360 fanboys

[TheMART]

Spoon = Fork

Fork had multiple accounts like Fork_the_finalaccount4

They all got banned, he is illegal on N4G. So this one will get banned also.

Bye bye Fork with your analfabetic way of writing.

[byeGollum]

what if they really aint making a pc version this time .. what will you do ? jump off a cliff ? Get. It. LOL!

[Ozzyb]

Jump ON a Cliff! Ba dum tish!

[theox2g7]

Do you really buy this? This is Epic here, we are talking about, Do you know how much they made from just the Games for Windows agreements alone? Gears of War pc may not have been that much of a commercial success but it was a goldmine for Epic, It cost them barely nothing to port as the game was already done far before the 360 version, Even the Brumak levels were partially done but didn't make the final cut, The E3 demo back in 2005 was running on a Windows XP machine, not a 360, the pc version was practically done back in 2006, it just needed few finishing touches which cost them table scraps,

So in the end, even with the sh1t sales, the game still broke even, that's why it was such a buggy port with crappy support, barely any patching but it's still riddled with all kinds of bugs, they knew the game was going to sell like crap since everybody else had already played it on the 360 so they didn't invest any effort into it, It was just a feeble attempt to show pc gamers they still care since it was the pc gamers that put them where they are today

Truth is you should read between the lines, 360 owners got royally pissed off that gears went to pc with extra content, the outrage on the epic forums alone was huge, Are you really that naive to think that even if a pc version was in the works, that Cliffy B would be stupid enough so as to even hint it in the slightest sense? They're trying to maximize sales for the 360 version, they did the same with first one, They said Gears wasn't coming to pc to get pc gamers to buy 360s, And they want more pc gamers to buy 360s so why would they slash off one less reason not to? You shouldn't ever think that Epic would be that stupid, Them confirming a pc version now would be like them telling 360 owners "Screw you a second time around, we're giving you an inferior version so you guys can spend your hard earned cash to buy in it in sh1tloads, then we make tons of cash and make a superior version for pc gamers with extra content you won't get, most of whom who are gonna pirate the crap out of it"

The last time around, They said there were no plans of any pc version, They know people aren't going to buy that message now, So they have to be more concrete, Make amends with the pissed off 360 owners that had gaming pcs but bought the 360 for Gears, They need to stay on the good side of all these gamers plus future potential 360 owners looking for one more reason to own one, They need those sales so why would they ruin it by either confirming a pc version or leaving the notion of it up in the air, Better to kill it now and ressurect it after the success of the 360 version, People would rather wait if it's a possibility and they don't want people waiting, they want them buying

Maybe for real, they aren't making a pc version but you can't take their word, Either way, this is the best thing they can say for their reputation to help sales reception of the second one, We don't know if a pc version might come or not, This response however is expected even if they are still making a pc version, It's better for them to say no pc version now and have as many 360 sales, then afterwards say "We changed our minds", than to state a pc version now and kill the 360 sales as everyone would be waiting for the pc version instead, Get the point?

[Dark Kitsune]

Dude if you didn't work on the game in any sort of way, don't tell us about it's development process.

[darkequitus]

No Plans mean they can change their plans. The words they used this time is different. I.s they are not making a pc version this time.

[theox2g7]

if you're too lazy to read through everything I've written just say so, don't jump to stupid conclusions, Everything I stated up there was pure fact, You don't need to be part of the development team to know that, All you need is google, Cliffy B himself explained it was only natural to bring Gears to pc since the E3 demos were running on a pc

http://www.shacknews.com/on...

"The timing is right for this... we didn't want [to wait] 3-4 years," said Epic producer Rod Fergusson at a recent press event. Flanked by Gears of War director Cliff Bleszinski and Gears PC lead level designer Jim Brown, Fergusson explained that bringing the game to the PC was a natural move--especially considering it had actually been running on the PC during the project's early showings at E3.

http://news.softpedia.com/n...

"You know console games are developed on PCs, right? Even if we never release Gears of War on PC we still need to run the game on PC to develop and test content for it" started Mark Rein to explain. He continues, pointing out that their first E3 demo, over two years ago, was done on a PC equipped with dual NVIDIA graphics cards. That was how they simulated the power of Xbox 360 before there was actually a real Xbox 360 to run on."

This was in 2006, @ darkequitus, they haven't changed their tone, Back then too, they didn't want people thinking it was coming to pc even though file and code leaks showed this, they needed more 360 sales, "So, the overall conclusion of Mark Rein's forum posts is that we WON'T see a PC version of Gears of War. Too bad I say, and I am certain that most PC gamers agree with me." There was nothing there about no plans or plans changing, They said what they wanted to get more sales, that's why most 360 owners were pissed at the forums, because they had gaming pcs and were suckered into getting a 360 just for Gears, Epic had them convinced that Gears was staying 100% 360 exclusive even in the midst of constant battering and questioning about a pc version

I never even said it's 100% coming to pc, My point is take this news with a bucket of salt, Maybe really it will never come to pc, But don't get your panties in a bunch, that's my point, The fact is even if Gears 2 was being developed also for pc as we speak, they would have still said the same thing to save face with angry 360 gamers and maximize sales for the 360 version, They are already hailing it as the biggest game this fall, Why would they want to hurt sales by confirming a pc version that'll come out later? If you really think Cliffy B is that stupid, think again, He knows the last time he said "There are no plans", if he says it again, people won't fall for it a second time, It will still be up in the air, Rumors will kick in, People will be doubtful of exclusivity so they'll wait, Epic doesn't want that, They need something concrete for 360 owners and potential 360 owners that's why he chose his words carefully

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

...This Year!!! ;-D
(Why do they always cut off the end of a sentence on this site!!!) ;)

[theox2g7]

Better yet, the quote from the Cliffster himself "We are not making a pc version this time around" By this time, he means 2008

[morganfell]

They said the same thing with the first Gears and those of us with an Unreal Developer license and Unreal Developer Network Access were laughing our asses off because there were already 3 PC playable levels at the time Gears shipped. I am not telling you the same thing here but let's just say if you own a PC it may be a while but it will BE.

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[morganfell]

http://news.softpedia.com/n...

"You know console games are developed on PCs, right? Even if we never release Gears of War on PC we still need to run the game on PC to develop and test content for it" started Mark Rein to explain. He continues, pointing out that their first E3 demo, over two years ago, was done on a PC equipped with dual NVIDIA graphics cards. That was how they simulated the power of Xbox 360 before there was actually a real Xbox 360 to run on."

That was the first Gears. Gears 2 still developed on a PC.

[Charmers]

I don't think many PC gamers are going to be losing any sleep over this. I thought the first one was a pile of crap and I can't say I was chomping at the bit for the second one.

However I wish Epic would just come out and say they are no longer interested in the PC format. After all most PC gamers have already said they are no longer interested in Epic's games.

There is also the matter of Epic being on this pathetic PCGA Alliance, it is nothing but a joke they are not doing a single game for the PC yet they are part of an organisation that has the job of championing the PC format !!!!!!!

[N-R-G]

Charmers, MOST PC gamers said nothing of the sort. Some PC gamers yes, but then again, some gamers say that about EVERY developer. :)

[Charmers]

Most PC gamers voted with their wallets and didn't buy the game. That says something about the game I think. It doesn't particularly affect me anyway I have an xbox 360, bought it to play GTA 4. If I so desired I could blow off the layers of dust on the thing and play Gears 2 on it if I wanted.

I get the feeling I will be leaving the Xbox and it's layers of dust alone when Gears 2 comes out, it is such a shallow dull repetitive game I can't understand how anybody can enjoy it. But then I am primarily a PC gamer so I am not as easily pleased.

[Sitdown]

Can you explain why you believe the game to be a pile of crap? While I do not consider it to the best game ever...I did not feel that it was so bad that I would identify it as a pile of grap. You are essentially saying that it was not even average at best.

[Charmers]

Where do I start, it was repetitive and dull. The graphics were subpar even on both my PC's (quad + 8800gts and Duo + 8600gt), the graphics were bland and dull, the weapons were weak and uninteresting, the enemy were too generic and dumb. As for the the story line, did it actually have one ? The control scheme was complete tripe if you used a mouse and keyboard (which I do since I play PC games). I never played it with a joypad because I abhor the things. Oh and that is before you take into account the numourous bugs the game shipped with and never got fixed.

This is the first game I have ever failed to finish, I just got completely bored of it. I think I got as far as that vehicle level and thought "f**k this for a game of soldiers I would rather be watching paint dry". There was just nothing remotely good about the game, I think many 360 users just hype the game because it is an "exclusive" to their console. It's the same with Halo that is a very subpar fps but it gets hyped to death on the 360 yet the minute it appears on any other platform it dies without even a whimper.. hmmm I wonder why that is.

If Gears had been a good game it would have sold well on the PC, there is no escaping that. It didn't sell well because PC gamers don't buy into the hype of this. It was at best a subpar uninteresting shooter and PC gamers recognised it for that and didn't buy it. Now from what I see of Gears 2 it remains pretty much the same so it is probably a wise decision not to bring it to the PC, it wouldn't sell because PC gamers expect more out of their games than Epic want to offer.

[Tarasque]

Sweet, One person speaking on the behalf of everyone else. It is not a good game cause it didn't sell well on PC. That is truly a classic line and shows your age of thought. PC gaming has been dead for a while nothing sells well on PC anymore. Why do you think the top Pc devs are going to consoles, cause no one is buying it on the PC. Why buy it when you can download it for free, there is usally 2 to 3 times more poeple playing a game on the PC then what sells show. Just the fact of people pirating software. And if your head is so far up your PC's case then don't troll in the gears page that something you hate so much.

[Charmers]

If that is the case then please tell me why other PC titles have NO problem selling well over a million ? Games like Witcher, Stalker, Crysis, C&C 3 and Orange Box don't seem to have a problem. Yet for some bizarre reason Gears probably didn't even sell 100,000 on the PC, hm I wonder why that is ? It's because the game was crap and PC gamers saw it for that.

I guess you don't like people trashing your beloved "exclusive", Gears is a third rate game there is NOTHING special about it whatsoever except it gives fanboys a warm glowing feeling because it's on THEIR console. If Gears had been any good it would have easily sold well over a million on the PC but it didn't despite the fact lesser known titles did.

As for trolling the "Gears" page, hm this is about the PC, I own a PC therefore I think I am pretty much entitled to comment on a story relating to the PC. So might I suggest it is you that takes your head out of Microsofts arse and look around the PC is not dying the only people that even think that are console gamers like you, hm strange that isn't it.

[N-R-G]

"If Gears had been a good game it would have sold well on the PC, there is no escaping that"

Rubbish. No hugely successful console games have sold really well on the PC if they were ported one year later! Even for so-called 'good' games! In fact, this is true all systems, including from one console to another.

The fact is, for a 'big' game, most gamers who want to play it would have done so long before the game is ported to another format a year or so later! Either they had the games system already or some will purchase the games system just to play the game.

So it's nonsense to suggest that sales of Gears is a reflection of PC gamers' opinions of Epic as you claim, since even if Gears was the best game released this gen, PC sales of the year old 360 game would have still been lacklustre.

[Sitdown]

First off..haha, I got three disagrees for asking you a question...that I genuinely wanted to know that answer to. Anyhoo...thanks for answering the question.

With that, I do agree with N-R-G with regards to the sales. For me..I would think that pc gamers might have already played the game on 360...and now waited for the port. Also, the million selling games you mentioned either were never on consoles to steal sales......or came to the console later. So to strengthen your argument you need to display games that started out on the console first, then so a million on pc......that way it will seems like a Gears of War thing....and not just console to pc games in general.

[Charmers]

All I see is you guys making excuses for why it didn't sell. The reason it didn't sell is becaue PC gamers didn't care enough to buy it. The reason why they didn't buy it is immaterial, they obviously didn't care about the franchise enough to purchase a copy for their PC.

It is the same with Halo, yes Halo is a big franchise on the Xbox but outside of that NO ONE CARES. Both Gears and Halo are perfect examples of hyped games that console gamers clamour after but when they are brought to a more mature audience they flop badly.

I personally think no Gears 2 on the PC is a good thing, the pc does not need a boring repetitive, generic shooter like Gears 2. It isn't a title I would buy after the sorry excuse for a game the first one was. Hell I wouldn't even waste the bandwidth of my internet on the second one.

[N-R-G]

"All I see is you guys making excuses for why it didn't sell."

I'm a PC gamer as well and have been since the late 80s (and a gamer long before that on consoles, arcades and mini-computers), but I don't push my personal views to represent that of a whole group of gamers as you've done so here.

You claim that MOST PC gamers have SAID they are not interested in Epic's games and you use Gears as proof of this. I pointed out that a) It's only SOME PC gamers and b) a port of a year old console game is not proof of your views.

Now you bring Halo into the equation, which imo shows you want to shift the argument into PC vs XBox to avoid having to provide proof of your views. I'll remaind you that Halo was released on the PC just under TWO YEARS after the XBox version, and therefore is subject to the same conditions I mentioned earlier.

To repeat myself, sales of such ports says nothing about how good or bad the games are or what PC gamers think of them or the developers, and therefore I'm waiting for you to provide a list of console games which when ported to the PC a year or so later, sold really well, since you are suggesting that Gears and Halo are exceptions to the rule.

So where are they Charmers?

My point is (as it's been since the beginning), is that only SOME PC gamers will feel the way you do about Epics's games and Halo, and you are entitled to YOUR views and I respect them on that basis. But you don't speak for the majority of PC gamers, and you certainly don't speak for ME, so don't expect your wild claims about the views of MOST PC gamers to go unchallenged.

[Charmers]

Dear god do you need a lesson in business or something. I said most PC gamers, because quite clearly most PC gamers were not interested in the Gears or Halo franchise on the PC because they didn't buy it.

It is immaterial that the games were released later on the PC the fact is NO ONE bought the game. So if the majority of PC gamers didn't buy the game I think that is a pretty big clue that the majority of gamers are not interested in Gears on the PC.

Now for the record I did buy Gears on the PC and even I don't want Gears 2 on the PC. So for the record it isn't me claiming on behalf of the majority of PC gamers it is Sales figures showing the majority of PC gamers don't want the game.

It is quite clear that the majority of PC gamers are getting fed up with Epic's stuff you just have to look at the simultaneous release of UT3 another game that didn't do incredibly well. Thankfully this time Epic didn't get my money because I tried the demo first and saw how badly the game stank.

So there you have it I don't think any PC gamer is going to be slitting their wrists over no Gears 2 on the PC it was a third rate, dull repetitive shooter and MOST pc gamers saw it for that and didn't buy it.

[zag]

Don't worry mate!

I agree with you, Crysis was being shown off around the shows before halo 3 came out, after seeing and playing crysis why would people bother with Halo 3.

then you have the halo 3 online fights lol they are slow as PC FPS people were saying are they playing for real or is the video slowed down, lol.

As for UT3 I was thinking of picking it up but to be honest I didn't bother with it as it hasn't really been upgraded from UT2004/5 even quake is over the hill now, iD will probably notice the lack of sales as well.

Epic and iD are porting their engines mainly to keep the amount of incoming cash up more than adding much to their PC FPS engines.

I've seen the whole consoles vs PC statement before back in the 90's and it was the exact same stuff back then as what it is now, all the hardcore console people say PC is dead consoles wipe out the PC but it's said when their not much coming for the PC and then the new PC engines come out add so much extra stuff that blows away the consoles that everyone swaps back to the PC.

[N-R-G]

No I don't need lessons in business, but it's clear you do, especially since you keep dodging the question.

As I've stated already, the sales of Gears and Halo are no different to EVERY OTHER console to PC port a year or so after release on the console.

EVERY port of a console game released at such a long period after the initial console release has had relatively poor sales on the PC. Therefore the sales of Gears of War and Halo is NOT an example of PC gamer's opinions of these games because they are no different to any other similar ports. Which part of that fact do you not understand? Where's your examples of console games which have had massive sales on the PC a year later?

"It is quite clear that the majority of PC gamers are getting fed up with Epic's stuff you just have to look at the simultaneous release of UT3 another game that didn't do incredibly well"

Oh gee, so you mean another developer has some games which sell well and others that don't. Well how original, we've never seen that before. *rolleyes* :)

What I find disappointing about your assessment and attitude here is that it is no different than those gamers who latch on to any negative news of poor game sales on the PC and claim it's proof that the PC is dying as a games format. An incorrect claim which I've been reading for about 15 years.

Getting back to these ports, there are many reasons why a game doesn't sell well, reasons which include the quality of the game (although great games do flop, even on the PC), the state of the market, competition with other recent game releases (especially those in the same genre), hardware requirements, demo impressions and so on.

So to put it all down to most PC gamers "getting fed up with Epic's stuff" is a very simplistic way of looking at it, as simplistic as a console fan using the poor sales of a high profile PC game as further proof that the PC is dying as a games format (and I've read that countless times over the years).

Anyway, since you want to be pedantic over game sales and ignore the facts behind them, the amount of PC gamers out there is simply huge, with PCs ranging from the lowest specs to the highest specs. Hence there are NO games which sell to the _majority_ of PC gamers (i.e. over 50% of them), therefore sales can only ever be a comparative measure to other games. So yes, Gears and Halo sold less than numerous other PC games, but for the reasons I've given already, not because of some borg-like opinion amoungst the collective as you suggest. :P

So once again, speak for yourself, not for other PC gamers.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

Who cares, I have the 1st for PC and it blow balls. PC gamers have better games than this overrated TPS.

[Omega4]

Why would they need to it will likely sell at least 4-5million on the 360 by the end of the year, espically with a price cut, MS marketing, a huge shooter loving install base and Xmas coming

And since Gears 1 cost only 10ml to make Gears 2 cant cost much more so they should easily make a profit

[Fox01]

Xbox360 price cut + Gear of War2 bundle = The 360's going to own the holiday season hands down.

Edit : what can compete with this (don't tell me Resistance lol)? Except a Little Big Planet bundle, I don't see anything that can compete with that this fall.

[poopsack]

so if they managed to make a profit you think they would suddenly not like making more money?

[Jdoki]

I agree that Gears 2 will be huge. But I don't see it causing a massive sales spike on the hardware.

The 360 sales have hit the wall. The people really hyped about Gears 2 will be those that have played Gears 1.

I see huge sales for the game (obviously), but nothing more than a short term moderate increase on the hardware front.

Sony seem to be going for a more varied line up of releases. LBP, Resistance 2 and so on - as individual IP's they can't compete with Gears 2 - but add it all up and it's a stronger overall line up with more depth. None of the PS3 titles will be massive hardware sellers, but the appeal to casual AND hardcore gamers is greater than what the 360 has to offer.

Between Sept and Jan I think we'll see the PS3 beat the 360 sales every month except November (maybe). And if the 360 gets beat in November then MS have a serious issue on their hands.

[Omega4]

@7.2 Cinsidering its MS we're talking about youre probably right and they'll likely not stop at just Gears 360

@7.3 Personally i see the 360 has a much more varied and stronger line-up
VP 2, Banjo 3, Fable 2, Gears 2, Left 4 Dead, Last Remnant compared to SOCOM, R2, Motorstorm, LBP. 360 has a lot more genre covered for both Hardcore and causual

[Ozzyb]

I think when taking into consideration the variety, you also have to consider the quality. I think 360 has a couple of good games coming, but surely they don't compare in total to Sony's total line-up. L4D is a PC game as well, and I think we would be considering exclusives only. I was considering getting a 360, but they have nothing coming besides Fable that would justify the purchase for me. It would take a couple of those games to rival LBP alone, in my opinion.

edit: What is VP2?

[InMyOpinion]

I want to play this as soon as it's released. Just like I played Bioshock and Too Human when they were first released.

Unlike some people I don't have a fetish for waiting.

[theox2g7]

haven't you heard? good things come to those who wait, are you butthurt? i'm very sry you had to beta test games like gears and mass effect for pc gamers to get the superior versions, thanx for the brumak suggestion on the forums, it was really fun, too bad you missed it, make some better suggestions this time around like more enemies onscreen, bigger multiplayer like resistance so we can enjoy it in fall 2009

[InMyOpinion]

Yes yes. Let's hope the Bioshock leftovers you are getting are "on par" with the 1 year old 360 version.

Even if Turok had 120-player multiplayer it would not be a good game. The same goes for Resistance 2. Far Cry 2 and COD 5 looks like much better FPS's in all areas. Better graphics and probably much better gameplay.

[Jamaicangmr]

Am sorry but this statment sounds very familiar to what they said about Gears 1. No PC version? PLEASE! lol! They just say that to cause a panic and have people run out and get the Xbox360 version only to announce the PC version at next E3. lol!

[morganfell]

Cliffy B has become the liar of game street. He used to be pretty cool. I don't know what happened but something went wrong the time he gave up the Point Break look and went with the faux hawk. Maybe the mousse burned his brain. First he goes into a panic over Resistance 2 because he knows they can't outclass it, now he has the audacity to say something like this. This is right up there with the "there will be no charge for DLC on Gears because we will make enough money on the game" lie he told.

The thing is he is unaware of his crumbling image and so are those blind idiots that follow him like he is the pied piper. No Gears of War on PC. What's next? Some lie about No Bioshock on PS3? Ooops. Too late.

Oh Look:

http://news.softpedia.com/n...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

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PS3 80GB Rank 6
360 No 360 models in top 100

[militant07]

its great idea to relase the gears 1 only
because they can get more fan for it ( HALO 2/GEARS OF WAR 1)
and if they want more they forced to get 360

[kevanio09]

Piracy is a big deal for pc developers, is the cost of porting it actually worth it?

[PopEmUp]

take a look at how many 360 games been pirate then come back here talk about it ok =)

[kittoo]

And piracy is over-blown. There are many arguments, but the best thing would be visiting a thread on tweakguides forums. Some excellent and knowledgable people have discussed this in great deal over there. A great read.
Games do sell on PC. In recent games, Crysis is about to touch 2 million (and this game is hardware demanding so it will sell over time when people get better hardware), Sins of a solar empire sold 1 million (without any copy protection), The Witcher sold much more than one million (despite of many technical issues, cause it was a great game gameplay wise) and now that the enhanced edition coming, add at least half a million more, Command and conquer 3 sold 1 million, Supreme commander sold about one million, CoD4 sold more than one million on PC, Orange box sold much more than the console versions combined, World in conflict sold pretty well, Lost planet sold a million (thanks to steam), Bioshock sold well. Many other games were hit but I cant remember the names. And many of the above sales doesnt include digitally distributed versions.
First of all, if good games werent selling on PC, there would have been no games.
The matter of fact with Gears of war was that it just wasnt that good game, especially on PCs. PCs already had much better graphics in many games, the game design was more suited to consoles, storyline was thin and it had hiccups issues and game saves issues and many more technical issues on PCs.
And above these all, many many people had already played it on Xbox360s.
Still I say, Gears 2 will come to PCs sooner or later.
And once again, Gears didnt sell much on PCs because of the issues it had. Its easier to blame everything on piracy, but good games sell and those developers dont complain that much.

[Tarasque]

You say this sold 1 mill and that sold 1 mill. What is the install base of PC's and tell me if those are truly good numbers. Or base it on sales for Nvidia or ATI and compare game sales to there card sales. PC gaming is on the decline, no matter how you cut it. And the fact of it is, It's cause of PC gamers stealing games.

[Rageanitus]

I guess MS paid more money this time to keep it exclusive.... or maybe we will see it 1 year later on like how we saw gears of war 1

[Fishy Fingers]

Huh? Games for Windows is MS owned. You don't pay for exclusivity from another of your platforms.

More a strategic move to boost 360 copies and also 360 as a console (like Gears 1 which at launch was claimed a 360 exclusive).

[Fox01]

lmao. Do you even knwo what you're talking about? Wouldn't it be opposite; that Microsoft would pay them to port the game to PC?

[Charmers]

Microsoft is already on record as saying "they hold games off the PC for as long as possible to boost X360 sales". They know if you give people the choice between playing the game on the PC or a 360 people will choose the PC everytime. So no it isn't in MS's interest to pay Epic lots of money to put Gears on the PC. It is actually in MS's interest to pay Epic lots of money to keep it OFF the PC as long as posssible.

[GameOn]

This doesn't affect me but if in future a PC version does come out, my respect for Epic will go down.

@ disagree: My respect for them will go down cos they blatantly lied. other than that, good for pc owners.

[Agent VX]

One of the Biggest Games Ever, and it's not coming to the PC. That really sucks. The first game was fantastic, and Gears 2 looks even better.

This sucks, but I guess I will fire it up on my 360, I just prefere mouse and keyboard for these types of games.

[FantasyStar]

I love how people disagree with you and not say why. I agreed with you by the way.

[Agent VX]

LOL, this site is infested with Sony Fanboys, they disagree anything that is MS.

Plus it's hard to say anything good about a game (GeOW 2) when released, will be the best graphically game on any console. And that really bites silly Sony Fanboy's. And it hurts that GeOW 1 sold wayyyy better than MGS 4, and at a time where there was fewer 360 owners than what the PS3 had when MGS 4 was released.

But when there is so few good games to play on the PS3, it makes complete sense why there is so many PS3 users on the net, and not playing their system.

[Utalkin2me]

Got to have something to play first. When most of the game consist of just a few hours long. Then you have more time on your hands.

[doshey]

oh well i would of bought it for pc too bad now

[Droid]

yes, and too bad you're still a moron.

[doshey]

oh what cuz i prefer to just buy it for 50 instead of going out buying a 360 for 200 and then 60 for the game just so i can play this ya i guess saving money makes me a moron now and days

[centrum2k]

i going to bet $$ that gow2 will be coming to pc. i would get it on 360 1st if i have one tho.

[Lucreto]

I don't believe them. Microsoft won't allow it. I believe Halo wasn't going to the PC and look what happened.

It looks like MS wanted to sell more 360 by saying no PC version and release one next year. I will wait for the PC version that will eventually come.

[FantasyStar]

If Halo 3 was announced for PC with improved graphics (none of that aliasing ****), then I'd buy it. I couldn't play Halo 3 on the 360 because the jaggies on my screen were terrible.

[Utalkin2me]

Maybe it had to do with your screen? It wasnt perfectly clean but it wasnt that bad either.

[juuken]

"Even if Turok had 120-player multiplayer it would not be a good game. The same goes for Resistance 2."

I have Resistance and it looks damn good and it plays just as well. Resistance 2 will live up to it's name.

I could say something about Gears 2 - Bigger and badass doesn't always mean better.

Turok wasn't a bad game-it just didn't live up to the days of Turok64. To me, that was the best Turok.

[morganfell]

Insomniac knows their formula works. They aren't the ones that had to change their tagline because of the realization that simple gibbing gameplay no longer satisfies a gamer with anything above 3rd grade comprehension levels.

Resistance 2 is fast (too fast for most Gears gamers) and requires more thinking and tactics.

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[juuken]

Yeaaaah, I mean Resistance is INSANE.
I'm getting the hang of it though. The chimera shall die. :D

[trancefreak]

Morgan do you realize that Haze is out selling any 360 sku @ amazon.

Muuahaaaaa funny

[morganfell]

Trance, that is some funny crap too, ha ha. That has to be like sand in their crack.

[TheMART]

Yes. PS3 fans are that dumb to buy a game like Haze that gets rated 5.6 average.

I guess there is not much more to play so they even buy sad bad games. Pretty pathetic.

One game on or over 9 out of 10 rated after the PS3 is allmost out 2 years now, which actually is about a BluRay movie with 50% of its play time in cut scenes. Double pathetic.

[pp]

My nephew is a beta testa for resistance 2 and yesterday i was watching him play i can tell you driods honestly graphics are awful not much difference from resistance 1 and if their is a beta testa prove me wrong .Gears of war 2 multi-player will be graphically insane and has nothing to worry about resistance 2 because i've seen it with my own eyes

[juuken]

You're a liar.

I have Resistance 1. The graphics look great. Resistance 2 looks great as well.

"The 360 is the now, the PS3 is the future. Cry some more bots."

[doshey]

so hes one of the what 50 who is in it drop dead with ur bs

[KBDuB]

Lol. I love you're.. "motto." aha. I guess you should throw your name in with the "bots" since you cry every other day!

Actually.. You cry more than all the "bots" on this site. And, that's the truth.

"Cry some more Juuken(TwoChin)!"

[pp]

I'm not lying if anyone hear is a beta-test prove me wrong

[doshey]

okay so whats his name at myresistance.net

[juuken]

Yes, exactly.

[pp]

I'll find out give me 10min
his gone out so i will have to tell you later on

[doshey]

already i can tell this is bs

dude i just sneezed i think im allergic to ur bs

[trancefreak]

PP quit clowning around.

[ilkercruiser]

At least "THIS TIME AROUND"

[PureGamer]

lmao if its true werent all the fanboys cherping on about getting it for pc? thats the good thing about owning both consoles you dont lose out :D

[heyheyhey]

.......sure

they'll keep the PC version secret for a while and then it will come

all 360 "exclusives" end up on PC some time or another- Halo 3, Fable 2, Halo Wars...... they'll fall

the only significant exclusive that will stay is Ninja Gaiden 2.... and the JRPG's

[Killjoy3000]

I have never cared for Gears of War. Good for people who like it though.

[silverchode]

cliff announces gears of war 2 for pc.

[CouchKing0]

"Gears of War 2 not coming to PC"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAAHAHAAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAAAHA

Thanks for the laugh Cliff!

[commando34]

Im absolutely disgusted by what im seeing in these comments, Gears of War was an amazing game with good graphics and some fun online co-op and is one of my favorite games on my Xbox 360. All im seeing is: "gears sucks balls and it was gay and had many problems and it shouldn't have been for the PC". Guess what..? IT WASN'T MEANT FOR THE PC you PC gamers are so mean and overall stupid and throw away any game that isn't World of Warcraft. You don't no what A true game is and you never will because of your stupid keyboard and mouse thinking your sooooo cool and you can shoot down this and that. Microsoft doesn't deserve this and should have never put games like Halo and Mass Effect on the PC for you PC gamers to just to say its stupid. Gears shouldn't be on the PC again and it will be loved by all Xbox 360 owners come November and you will never feel that you cold hearted PC gaming B@stards.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

....lol chill.
all those games were better on PC anyway.
and if you like a game so much, it shouldnt matter that people downplay it, YOU know its good, so go play.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

well, honestly, ALL of my friends sold their 360.
it used to be 7 of them but slowly they transitioned over to "something else". now ive got nowhere else to play this except PC. and even now IM SURE itll come to PC. so thats what ill buy it for.
if it doesnt then i wont feel too bad about missing out on this game. The first one was a disaster for me anyway, glitchy as hell.
Just check the forums and what they say about Gears on PC.
maybe it all evens out with the new extras like another chapter and extra multiplayer modes and maps for free.

[Agent VX]

well, honestly, ALL my friends and relatives have sold their PS3's, because the online is horrible and laggy as heck, and all the multiplats released are better on the 360. Plus the PS3 gaming library is the weakest of all the current gen consoles, with not real big titles coming out anytime soon except maybe GT 4. PS3 just doesn't have anything good to play except MGS and Uncharted, the rest is very poor.

Gears was a fantastic game, and like ANY PC game, does require some patches. Gears played very good patched up and the online was very good.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

haha well honestly, I dont believe you.
no one would make such a big investment in a console and then turn right around without giving it a chance. The argument that the system has no games just doesnt hold any water. And you know its true. Plus buying a PS3 also comes with the promise of future games like Killzone, Kingdom hearts 3, Gran turismo 5, God of War, and a Shadow of the Colossus sequel.
and you go ahead and stick to your guns about the better library. cuz theres only so many times you can mention gears, bioshock and halo.
and i own mass effect, gears, and bioshock on PC, all of them better on that platform to boot.

edit: i forgot to mention, MAG is a 256 online multiplayer game. do you really think thats at all possible on the box?

[Baka-akaB]

Agent VX you're a crooked liar , and it shows . Online got less services than 360 (things you supposedly pay for anyway) but speed and stability wise , it's the same and in a few cases superior , with dedicated servers most of the time .

As for the topic , well the smart thing is to claims that anyway . Why would a powerful pc owner bother with the 360 versions of some games , if it comes later on PC in better versions ?
Obviously they are focusing on selling the console version right now , and would try to lure-in the ones willing and ready to wait 1-2 years for the pc .

[Tuca13]

What such men of developers industry say, can't be writen. Today they deny, tomorrow they confirm.

[AIi_The_Brit]

Im a beta tester too, except im playing girl with a stick

*wink*

and pp is full of sh*t the graphics are an insane improvement as is the gameplay

and i doubt pp even has a nethew, HES LIKE 12

[KBDuB]

Uhm. Lol. Are you serious? Ali, you can have a nephew at 12.. Hell, you can have a nephew when your 3!

[KBDuB]

Lol. Someone disagreed with me. Nice!

[Baka-akaB]

Obviously , i know who's the one disagreeing here . Once again those claiming the ps3 got network issues other than the lack of the 360 online services ... live in a massive fanboy delusion and wonderland .
Especially with so many multiplatform games to compare and so many people ready to scream at the first sight of lag .

[zonetrooper5]

Still getting Gears of War 2 on the 360 though just like I only get Valve's games on the PC or Halo games on the 360 unless its Halo Wars which I'll wait for the PC version at some point.

[DFresh]

Yeah right.
Cliffy B is gonna get so much money from this game that he'll have no choice but to make it for PC cuz he'll get greedy.
Cliffy B said the same thing the last time Gears of War will never come to the PC and just like that 1 year later it comes out on PC.
I don't believe him.
It might not have the achievements but it'll come out.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

is either way microsoft will some how get a sony fanyboys share of cash by them getting this on PC. I think some fanboy logic is lost when a 360 game is also only available on PC, they think they are still in the anti microsoft zone... heh! let this game come on PC... I'd dread playing this game with keyboard and mouse!. Im sorry but if you run a controller to your PC for games... it's a cop out!

[PirateThom]

I actually find Gears of War easier with a keyboard and mouse.

[KBDuB]

Look at this, there is more PS3 fanboys than 360 fanboys in this article! Who would've guessed? Sigh.

Lol.

"Cry some more Juuken(TwoChin)!"

[karlostomy]

that in yet another 360 (and pc) story there are more ps3 fans trolling than 360 fans commenting.

Strikes me as odd!

Don't they have a life?

[Lets-Game]

that what they all say, "im not ready yet" "we need more time" "we should use safty" and next thing you know she is playing with your wii! :)

[Rampant]

Wonder if all the droids that was gonna "get this on pc" is going to buy a 360 now=).
I think not ;D.

[felidae]

i'm not interested in playing Gears of War 2 on pc. i'm also not interested in playing Gears of War 2 on the 360.

so .. idontcare.

[felidae]

@TheMART:

what's wrong with you man? you haven't mentioned the metacritic scores of Lair and Haze in your latest posts. you must be sick or something. call a doctor! ;-)

[QuizPyro]

FINALLY A TRUE EXCLUSIVE to the 360 queers of war 2...how many bot does it take to admit that the ps3 is better care to answer anyone

[Rampant]

... in school??;D

[BigKev45]

Well, Epic knows PC gaming is dead.

[Lord Vader]

I don't care if it goes to PC or not, but I can see how it possibly wouldnt with poor pc sales & piracy... the only thing that bugged me about it going to PC last time was the additional content Epic NEVER gave the console gamers that bought 2 million copies of Gears in the first 6 weeks after release & made it what it is today.

I also dont see how a pc experience can even compare to xbl & playing games with friends & laughing on the headset all nite. I'd much rather play the game on the console, on the couch with my 50" HDTV. But that said, I dont care if it goes to pc, it just sux when they give pc gamers additional content when console gamers made the game what it is today.

Lol, I also doubt Epic is gonna have any problem with revenue, because this game is gonna sell big time. Can't wait.