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NG Frame Rate Issues Are Only in the Review Build

You may have noticed TeamXbox have not yet posted their review of Team Ninja's Ninja Gaiden 2. Just wanted to fill you in on why. There were a couple of issues with the review build discs, specifically with the load times and the framerate. TeamXbox have been told that these issues have been resolved in the retail version of the game. Therefore, they have decided to hold off on posting their review article and score until they are able to get their hands on a retail build of Ninja Gaiden 2 in order to verify this.

In the meantime, TeamXbox have put together a few high-definition video clips of Ninja Gaiden 2 in action! These videos were rendered using two-pass encoding so they are very high quality and should give you a very good idea of what to expect! Stay tuned as TeamXbox will be posting their fully-detailed review as soon as they can verify that the issues that came up with the review build discs have been resolved.

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Fishy Fingers5839d ago

I find that rather hard to believe, why would they issue reviewers with a build with problems that will not feature in the retail build? That would be foolish wouldn't it?

Who told them the retail build will be better? They don't say, without a source of the information what good is it?

predator5839d ago

dont forget lost odyssey, reviewers changed there scores when they got hold of the retail build due to framerate and load times reduced and fixed so this is not uncomman

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Mike134nl5839d ago

source is most likely somebody from microsoft or the developer. Why issue reviewers with a flawed review build answer is always time(schedule) and money.
For a game like ninja gaiden 2 releasing a review build is not even a necessity.
Doubt that reviews will be changed dramatically,if at all, by the frame rates and loading times.

7h3ultim8p005839d ago

They do that to meet deadlines. Sometimes, there is just not enough time to have a review copy handy by the deadline, so the devs give the editors unpolished copies.

ISA_Scum5839d ago

It makes perfect sense to me to send critics an unpolished version of your game. I mean, really, why give the people who provide initial opinion of a product's overall outcome a finished product to review for the gaming community? It's not like reviews matter in this industry or anything.

Oh, and for this pathetic site, why supply a source when releasing news like this? It's not like it's important to reveal the one giving you info that goes against the media's perspective of a big product or anything. Especially not when your site is strictly dedicated to the console that this product is being played on exclusively.

This is all such a joke.

LenHart5839d ago

EDGE complained about FR issues too.

The final version would have that too. FR issues are usually caused by improper coding/ rushing a product to retail

It is definitely disappointing since NG ran at 1080p native at 60 fps on PS3

foodbox5839d ago (Edited 5839d ago )

You know why you find it hard to believe? Because you want the Xbox 360 and this game to look bad.

It is very easy to see how they could ship the "Preview Build" before they set the Gold build.

They've just told you that NG2 arrived **one month** earlier than they normally get the game -- have you ever had a job? Do you know what "cruch time" means? *a lot* of work gets done in that final month, and the game industry is *NOTORIOUS* for this massive bug-crushing "crunch-times" at the end of the project.

It requires *NO* difficulty to understand except to the "reality challenged" brand-cheerleaders.

This is *CLEARLY* the case with the NG2 reviews we are seeing here.

tplarkin75839d ago

Developers want control over marketing the game, so they pick their favorite reviewer and give them a "review" build before the game goes to market.

LJWooly5839d ago

Actually, foodbox, I don't think I have heard of "cruch time" before. I would have mistakedly assumed it would be to do with crutches, or crotches, if it wasn't for you imparting your wisdom and knowledge of bsuiness practices to us. Thank you for introducing me to this new and useful term.

Dareaver15839d ago (Edited 5839d ago )

i'm sorry but i do think he meant "Crunch Time" which he later stated. I guess you couldn't help yourself. And you wanted to show fault in what he was saying. Well, in my Limited Edition Halo 3 bonus disc, they talk about this "Crunch Time". And i do believe it is common business practice, where they take time to check for bugs.

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Ashton5839d ago

it's the stupidest thing that a Game dev company can do,,,,which is sending a bad copy to reviewers,,,

but I find it hard to believe all of a sudden load times would improve(that needs major changes)

ilkercruiser5839d ago

Review version
* Frame rate issues
* very long loadings
Original version
* Very less frame rate issues
* short loadings

Some sites changed their reviews due to this

BIoodmask5839d ago (Edited 5839d ago )

to hit direct link to TeamXbox if you want to see three Hi-def videos. They are exclusive to that site. Their were no embeding codes...:(

TeamXbox is reputable website and I am sure that unless they had a valid source they would not bring up such accusations. So perhaps review builds were not final builds. Obviously I don't know for sure, but is possible.

predator5839d ago

TeamXbox is also apart of the IGN network so dont be suprised if IGN change there score if this to be true

LaChance5839d ago

Guess the haters only have the camera to diss.

Alexander Roy5839d ago

You forgot about the difficulty.

Condoleezza Rice5839d ago

Yeah,since everyone with a concerned opinion is a hater right...?

Give me a break,just because some people would rather there NOT be any problems in a game,and aren't afraid to voice their concerns on an IDENTIFIED problem,doesn't make them a hater.My BIGGEST letdown surrounding NG1 was the Camera,and it looks like they haven't fixed it this time around,review discs and retail discs included.

Gam715839d ago

he means the ps3 fans that dont even own a 360 yet comment (with a negative slant) on every 360 thread.

You're right in what you say but the comments he's talking about don't come from true gamers.

Presentist5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Bubbles, Alex...bubbles for you. :-)

BTW don't believe Condelezza Rice, he/she's proven themselves a fanboy many a time. Ignored.

I think the camera will be an issue for some people, just like it was in the last one, but I didn't have a single problem with it, so count me out of the flock.

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Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 - Team Ninja at its Finest

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 debuted in 2009; ahead of Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty's launch, it's time to look back at one of Tecmo Koei's best titles.

MIDGETonSTILTS17446d ago

Disagree.

Black > Sigma1 > Sigma 2

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The 10 Hardest PlayStation 3 Platinum Trophies

With the release of games now slowing on the PlayStation 3, Twinfinite take a look at the 10 hardest platinum trophies on Sony's older system.

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DarkOcelet3014d ago

I almost got the Lost Planet 2 one, but that get no One in the Leaderboards was effed up.

Many of those trophies are just time consuming, if we are going to talk some seriously hard platinum trophies, put MGS4 in there.

I will never forget the day i got that Big Boss Emblem.

Complete the game in less than 5 hours
Use no continues
Use no health items
Kill no enemies
No alert phases
No special items
Complete the game on The Boss Extreme

One of my proudest trophies :)

skcej3013d ago

yeah the Lost Planet 2 one was pretty ridiculous with the amount of time you had to put in but when I researched the list I found a lot of people saying that the Nom de Guerres were really annoying/ quite tricky to get. I did think about putting MGS 4, maybe it should have got an honorable mention. Impressive trophy to have though dude! :)

kotaku773013d ago (Edited 3013d ago )

Yeah! specially when you got to play over and over MGS4, when you could be playing, idk, MGS3 or any other game

FallenAngel19843014d ago

I'm only one Trophy away from getting the Platinum in MGS4, but unfortunately it has to be that damn Songs of the Battlefield one that requires me to get all the emblems. It's such an eyesore to be so close only to be set up against such a daunting task

kotaku773013d ago

Mortal Kombat 9
Star Ocean: The Last Hope International
Lost Planet 2
Far Cry 2
Wipe Out HD
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Super Street Fighter 4
Persona 4: arena
Raiden IV
NBA 2K16

Knushwood Butt3013d ago

+1 for Raiden IV

What is your best score in Overkill mode (online ranking rules) ?

kotaku773013d ago

I don't know what you're talking about

Knushwood Butt3012d ago

Raiden IV

Shhoting game

High score?

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Are AAA Games Too Easy?

"Perhaps extreme difficulties are still here, just presented in different ways. Multiplayer focused shooting games (for the most part), have average (to-below) difficulty within their campaigns. However, jumping online and playing competitively can produce a welcomed contest." KJ of Play Legit Writes

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itsjustexuma3317d ago

From Software thinks differently

bacrec13317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

Real Talk. Wish more companies would get the memo.

joab7773317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

So do I. Unfortunately, it doesn't sell so it doesn't get made. At least it doesn't sell 5-10 million like Assassin's Creed, And all the others. Bloodborne is one of the best games I've ever played, and it ruins other games b/c it expects better of you. It wants you to play it for awhile, instead of moving on to the next big thing a week later.

It's goal is to consume you, and not just your time, but your patience and your will, and it promises, unlike other games, to reward you for that time w/ actual satisfaction.

breakpad3317d ago

eeh ?? have you heard bloodborne or Souls games ? ..no if the develeopers dont seek wide casual acceptance (aka all kids must play the game) no ... are not easy

bouzebbal3317d ago (Edited 3317d ago )

i think western games are getting much easier than ever.
japanese are the only ones who dose difficulty. Games like Ninja Gaiden, Souls, Bloodborne raise the level.

johndoe112113317d ago

Why? That makes no bloody sense. Most games have varying levels of difficulty, if you are someone who likes to be constantly punished and frustrated while playing a game simply start off playing the game on it's hardest difficulty. Why the hell should they make all games with only one level of frustrating difficulty, to pander to a select few who have nothing better to do than spend 10 hours trying to pass one level?

This argument makes no sense and since bloodborne released people act like they've forgotten about difficulty settings. People saying all games should be difficult and punishing are selfish and inconsiderate and don't give a damn about anyone else's time or preferences. if gamers want to spend over a month trying to finish every game then they should not complain when only 5 or 6 games get released every year. It's a senseless foolish expectation.

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rawrock3317d ago

From Soft makes Souls games hard the wrong way. Slow clunky controls and questionable mechanics and design. Anybody can make a game where you die a lot. It takes more talent to make a game with a good difficulty balance and smooth gameplay. I have not played Bloodborne but at least it looks to be step up in gameplay over the Souls games.

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freshslicepizza3317d ago

from software became a aaa developer based on expanding its fanbase who often felt neglected to play games where if you die you suffer for it. the first demons souls game was not marketed as a aaa game, it grew from word of mouth and they managed to fill an area that was being ignored.

lots of aaa games are made easy and that makes sense since they want the barriers of people to play them to be as wide as possible. the more accessible the more will play is what they are thinking because aaa games cost a hell of a lot more money to make now than they did 30 years ago.

AngelicIceDiamond3317d ago

The industry doesn't use the word easy but "accessible" so yes games are easy.

joab7773317d ago

It's because they know that you won't be playing long. Only certain games get played over a period of time longer than 2 weeks. They just want your money, and want you to finish it. And they know that if you get the Souls reputation, you are screwed.

700p3317d ago

it depends on the game really.

BitbyDeath3317d ago

Depends on the difficulty setting.

Perjoss3317d ago

I find the souls games a bit too hard personally but I think Bloodborne has perfectly balanced difficulty.

KryptoniteTail3317d ago

Too hard, actually. Well, not "hard" but complicated, with long boring tutorials, and unbalanced sections and they try your patience with collectathons, bulls*** missions and try to make up for it with half hearted multiplayey and/or bitchy trophies.

I prefer more indies these days. AAA can still be the best around but most are boring rehashes and DLC fests.

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