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San Andreas on the RAGE Engine: Yes or No?

Rockstar Advanced Gaming Engine: that is what RAGE stands for. All you need to know though is that as middleware solutions go, Rockstar San Diego's RAGE game engine is up there with the very best of them. You would have first seen it in Rockstar Present's Table Tennis making cloth flap and balls spin. Then in GTA IV and Midnight Club: Los Angeles. Next up it'll star in Red Dead Redemption, the game that Rockstar has gone on record saying inspired them to build the engine in the first place.

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G3TDOWN - 155 days 15 hours ago

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1 - how about this ?

GTA V

San Andreas with new graphics, new engines but the same map

would u buy it ? I would !

I loved San Andreas

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no_more_trolling - 155 days 12 hours ago

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no i wouldnt. that stupid. rockstr would think thats a stupid idea too. why waste a new gta experience just for a remake of a game u already played.

stupid idea

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iBoReD - 155 days 10 hours ago

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I missed san andreas so i bought it last week for pc. the game is waayyyyy better than gta4. in san andreas u can do so much more and its way more fun. u can buy properties in san andreas which gta4 lacked,go to the gym, ride bikes, more weapons and better player customisation :(

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stevenhiggster - 155 days 9 hours ago

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I'd buy it! They should do Vice City too!
They could probably stick them both on one Blu-ray!

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 155 days 9 hours ago

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Have to agree with G3TDOWN on that. I'd rather play a graphically upgraded remake of San Andreas than that "new" POS GTA game you call GTA4 any day of the f'ng week. Outside of graphics, GTA4 was and is a downgrade to the GTA series. No BS here.

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Poopface the 2nd - 155 days 2 hours ago

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1.5 - that would be cool

but Id rather have a new GTA that had similar features. I really like upgrading your character and their skills and fighting for territories in san andreas.

If the next GTA had things like that instead of 4's stupid cell phone calls ever 5 min where your friends want to go bowling, then it will be great. I cant imagine how no one at R* realized how annoying and stupid taht was.

ring ring
friend: "hey nico once your done killing people and the cops lets go bowling."

NIco: "but I just went bowling 5 times"

friend: "I hate you"

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DaTruth - 155 days ago

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The game is much better if you say you'll go bowling, call them right back and cancel. They don't get mad and you go on with the game. I turned down Roman like 500 times and he was still cool; I never saw him for weeks.

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Poopface the 2nd - 155 days ago

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1.7 - I just wanted them to use their dev. time differently

forgot all the hanging out and give you little turf battles and some customization.

the first tme you go bowling and go on the date with that girl was OK cause it fits in with the story, but after that it became intrusive. Its not taht it happened, but it happened way too much.

they should make a game GTA for wii. It can be called GTA: Friendly games.

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rockleex - 154 days 22 hours ago

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1.8 - GTA 4 really hinted at...

Vice City being next. It would be more likely for them to make Vice City before San Andreas.

It also makes sense when you compare it to the releases of the PS2 versions.

The other day, me and my friends spent 3 hours just talking about all the stuff we did in San Andreas and how GTA 4 took all those stuff away. Anyways, lets just hope the next GTA doesn't downgrade like 4 did.

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socomnick - 155 days 13 hours ago

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San Andreas was stupid give us Vice city. Leave that retarded ganster crap.

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silvacrest - 155 days 11 hours ago

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retarded gangsta crap? GTFO, san andreas gave the fans the only complete GTA in terms of content the only thing it lacked was multiplayer (that wasnt a big issue at the time)

what exactly was vice city then? a retarded scarface rip off?

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socomnick - 155 days 11 hours ago

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Yea but vice city had soul. 70s miami was hilarious and had personality. Early 90s LA we'll its just retarded with all the dumb gang crap. I wouldnt mind a San Adreas map in modern setting with a focus on something else besides gangs.

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Hellsvacancy - 155 days 11 hours ago

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2.3 - San Andreas was a SICK game

It wasnt the characters or the story line it was the gameplay that made it a GOOD game thats wot GtaIv was lackin - THE FUN GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS

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whoelse - 155 days 11 hours ago

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Well it was 80s Miami actually and both games were exceptional. They both have their own merits.

I hope Rockstar's next GTA is glorious HD 80s Vice City. Don't know what they would call the game though. GTA IV: Vice City?

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silvacrest - 155 days 11 hours ago

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i get that you dont really care for the gangsta vibe of san andread but many including my self found it entertaining, funny and to this day still the best GTA there has been

i didnt really care for vice city setting, to close to scarface for my liking but for me to call it retarded just because i dont like the vibe is......retarded lol

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pixelsword - 155 days 10 hours ago

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2.6 - Vice city sucked hard

SA was the Best in the series; besides, all organized crime are nothing but gangs, but bigger and better connected to even eviler people, is all.

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cayal - 155 days 9 hours ago

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"I hope Rockstar's next GTA is glorious HD 80s Vice City."

I actually hope they do like a 1930s Chicago type GTA. Something like an Al Capone era.
I reckon that would be completely awesome.

As for San Andreas, I think it is by far and away the best GTA so far.

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na2ru1 - 155 days 7 hours ago

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2.8 - I knew it. Those who adore Vice City

are those who are put off by the HipHop vibe in San Andreas and in general. They are probably avid fans of heavy metal and grunge. Nothing against grunge apart from them bashing HipHop culture through the internet.

San Andrea is clearly the better game if you just play and enjoy it. Vice City was great, but when most comments ignore and never credit San Andreas, it just makes me wonder why.

Socomnick gave me the answer loud and clear........"HEY MAAN. It's OG Loc, OOOG LOK!" I found it entertaining.

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whoelse - 155 days 6 hours ago

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If Vice City was as large as San Andreas or even 2/3rds the size then it would be a better game than San Andreas. SA is so big that you can just play without any missions and go exploring or whatever.

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PELVIC THRUST ACTION - 155 days 12 hours ago

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3 - Hmmm

I thought the Rockstar Engine was called Euphoria and the id Software engine was called RAGE?

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blu3print - 155 days 12 hours ago

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3.1 - nah..

Euphoria is third party tech that they used to simulate the rag doll physics

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ar - 155 days 11 hours ago

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id Software's latest engine is called id Tech 5. The first game to use it is named Rage. And Euphoria is an animation engine, not a physics engine.

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Pandamobile - 155 days 4 hours ago

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RAGE (Rockstar Advanced Game Engine) is the engine that R* made. Euphoria is a physics based animation engine created by Natural Motion (I think).

Euphoria is used for the procedural ragdoll effects like when you bump in to someone, they stumble around rather than have a predefined animation for them moving out of your way, or just flopping to the ground in typical ragdoll fashion, it's a mix of both which makes it look fairly realistic.

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djreplay - 155 days 11 hours ago

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Euphoria was the physics used but created by some over company, RAGE they created from scratch

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DragonWarrior_4 - 155 days 11 hours ago

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I would like to see San Andreas with the new Red Faction engine. Full destruction FTW!

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MurderMyDoll - 155 days 11 hours ago

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I'd buy it.

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sam2236 - 155 days 11 hours ago

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HELL YES! I'd buy it in a heartbeat! IMO, San Andreas is the best GTA. I'd kill to play it with GTA4's graphics and Euphoria!

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no1safe - 155 days 10 hours ago

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No, San Andreas sucked.
But give me upgraded Vice City - that's what would make me happy :)

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Pandemic - 155 days ago

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Yeah, both titles were awesome but Vice City was a tad better.

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steve30x - 155 days 10 hours ago

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Give me all the elements from San Andreas , Vice City and GTA IV (Take over business's , Modify cars etc) with better Graphics and I will buy it.

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DaTruth - 155 days ago

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Give me all the old maps and stories on a single blu-ray disk with all the old graphics! Just quickly throw it together and package it. Call it GTA3 full content and you can just fly planes to the next city using whatever character.

And also give me a new San Andreas experience or Vice city is cool.

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maniactadpole - 155 days 10 hours ago

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10 - If San Andreas is re-released with GTA IV graphics,

i would DEFINITELY buy it !!...cos San Andreas is the best GTA game i've ever played !!

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ghost-mutation - 155 days 9 hours ago

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I'd buy it.

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Rowsdower - 155 days 9 hours ago

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12 - Rockstar already made san andreas

lets take the series to asia

or maybe three globe trotting cities

New orleans > Paris > Tokyo

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MGL_Gamer - 155 days 6 hours ago

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12.1 - imo

tokyo+moscow+los angeles.
or from asia Bank Kong, Seoul, Shanhai, Tokyo/Osaka
from europe Moscow, Paris, London, Barcelona, Venice,
from america Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Washington, San Deigo

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DaTruth - 155 days ago

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That would suck, because when someone walks by and says "lkjfsa dhlikjhsdal ijhdi ujfeoi jfoifjojfg" It would ruin the game!

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jaxx377 - 155 days 9 hours ago

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13 - Vice City for me

While I did like San Andreas very much I would have to pick Vice City as my favorite because of the whole Miami Vice/Scarface vibe to it, I loved it. The only problem I had with San Andreas was ther was too much to do and would always take my focus away from the main game elements, everytime I was in the middle of something, my hood got attacked or I was hungry or fat and had to go to the gym wich you had to constatly do when all I wanted to do was play the game itself. I liked it I just thought overall it was unfocused, Too much going on for me.

P.S. I also miss robbing stores I thought that was great and missed it in San Andreas & GTA4

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steve30x - 155 days 7 hours ago

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I liked Vice City but the map was too small. Thats my only gripe with the GTA games. The maps are too small.

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iTzNath - 155 days 9 hours ago

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1st Day Purchase :)

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criticalkare - 155 days 8 hours ago

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Nah, make GTA V with that RAGE engine it will be sick!

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JustinSaneV2 - 155 days 5 hours ago

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There's already a GTA game that uses the RAGE engine. It's called GTA IV.

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Ripyealip - 155 days 8 hours ago

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the next GTA should be mafia style like librity city stories. and it should be fun hopefully

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i_am_interested - 155 days 7 hours ago

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id be down for it but it would have to have all the controls and gameplay mechanics of san andreas and not gta4 but with graphics on the level of gta4

i would be less for supportive for copy of gta4 that controlled and had the gameplay mechanics of gta4 but only with san andrea's environment and characters

it would have to play like san andreas, but with the physics of gta4 with exception to the car handling

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shobizz3000 - 155 days 6 hours ago

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18 - PLEASE DO!!

San Andreas was by far the best GTA made to date. It had the most activities gameplay options. I literally played that game every single day, for an entire year!! I was determined to complete 100%! I couldn't find all the stunt jumps, only got to 96%. I would definately BUY!!

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ian72 - 154 days 23 hours ago

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Doing San Andreas on PS3/360 would be alright and I would buy it as long as it had a different story and missions to it. I wouldn't be bothered if it was the same game with only updated graphics and physics.

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JJFNIGHTS80 - 154 days 19 hours ago

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I'd say keep it the way it is. Rock Star always brings out good ass quality of their games. Their engine on each games keeps coming to life each time I buy their games. Which looks just great. SO no I don't think they should use RAGE ENGINE.

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lloyd_wonder - 155 days 15 hours ago

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San Andreas is the best in the franchise. I remember cutting school and selling my used games to buy it for my PS2.

The good ol' days....

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shocky16 - 155 days 11 hours ago

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1.1 - Yeah I agree it was the best..

But i'd prefer a new game set in the san andreas area, like GTAIV was to GTA 3

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topgeareasy - 155 days 8 hours ago

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2 - they have to modify the engine but

the next game should be either in London, Washington DC, vice city, Vegas

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na2ru1 - 155 days 7 hours ago

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2.1 - London is a nightmare.

I hate driving there. And Getaway was "OK", not great.

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I want a remade Vice City setting that follow the original tommy story just when he say there is no north now is all south and with the modern tecnology, all the gta sa vehicles a second city or new islands and the best soundtrack ever being able to listen it when on foot. thats it.

oh and ps3/pc exclusive or in 360 but a really big mandatory install ;)

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