Ubisoft fiscal report for 09 broken down by Platform

Genesis5 - 423 days 3 hours ago

Yeah I read the same thing about EA. What's up with the 360 attach ratio. What games are they attaching? Not many of EA's or Ubisofts, 2 of the biggest publishers.

Really for an 8.1 games to consoles stat. Shouldn't somebody be making money off of it.

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supahbad - 423 days 3 hours ago

yeah weird was the first thing i thought too, how can it be the hardest to develop on with the lowest install base, and still be making third parties decent profits? maybe 360 fans are just holding out for their first party titles this year

Edit: and shouldn't games written on blu ray cost more too? i'm not getting this economy right now.

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dro - 423 days 3 hours ago

and they said ps3 owners only buy blu ray movies and not games.... :/ !!!!!

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Coheno - 423 days 3 hours ago

Jep, somethings going on! Probably M$ taking high fee's for publishing on their platform? Can't see where else their making money in their gaming division?!

After a closer look, maybe not. It says sales, not earnings? Wierd

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morganfell - 423 days 2 hours ago

These companies have to furnish the cold hard facts to investors and can't dilly dally with numbers the way MS does when they are trying to mislead the public.

Some of us aren't so US Centric and know that there is a big wide world out there where MS has an infinitely harder time in attempting to snow people about what is really happening in the console war.

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ruibing - 423 days 2 hours ago

@Genesis5
I'm pretty sure that tie ratio was from NPD, so it only counts for the US.

@supahbad
I'm not sure about development cost, since they are split down the middle with all major titles being cross platformers. But making games on Blu Ray shouldn't cost much more than DVDs ever since the PS3 supported LTH technolgy, which basically lets normal DVD assembly lines to easily converted to support Blu Ray. You can read it up, but Blu Ray cost less in terms of only having a single polymer side but evens the cost up with protective coating. I really don't think it makes much of a difference when they are made in the millions.

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The Matrix - 423 days 2 hours ago

Why do they have fallout 3 as one of their games?

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Flipgeneral - 423 days 2 hours ago

Piracy might be the culprit for these odd events!
My friend does not have a SINGLE legit game! (I do NOT support piracy btw, I give him crap for it every time)

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NaiNaiNai - 423 days 2 hours ago

yea that is odd. >.> and they aren't the publishers since Bethesda Softworks
and ZeniMax Media, are labeled as the publishers, someone mind explaining.
-nai-

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sonarus - 423 days 2 hours ago

Its fukin Europe. That has to be the explanation. But who really knows. All i know is that DLC will soon start to get costly for microsoft:)

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uxo22 - 423 days 1 hour ago

Well before sounding the conspiracy theory horn, there are several things to be considered here. Obviously Apr 08 - Mar 09

1. Are they counting any games that were released on the 360 prior to the report.

2. What does the lifetime xbox 360 attach rate have to do with the UBISOFT 08/09 Fiscal report showing PS3 with higher sales.

3. The PS3 had Haze and Prince of Persia classic release in this period. Haze being an exclusive and Prince of Persia Class was release outside of the quarter for the 360. There are probably other titles that fit this same criteria that is not being considered.

4. This reports is only covering the first half of the fiscal year, still one half to go.

5. Page 3 of the report says: "This statement may contain estimated financial data, information on future projects and transactions and future business results/performance. Such forward-looking data are provided for estimation purposes only."

Just something to ponder. Additionally is this for the entire UBISOFT company or is this report for European sales?

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kwicksandz - 423 days 1 hour ago

Looks like haze didn't flop sales wise as much as it did reviews wise!

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shine1396 - 422 days 23 hours ago

both x360 and ps3 are on 20 percent. Where did you get the summary figures from?

Edit: Just read it a second time to confirm....Shame on all of you. I won't be taking off bubbles but jeez.

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Coheno - 422 days 18 hours ago

Obviously NOT Apr 08- Mar 09. It says period ending Sep 2009, so it's probably Okt. 08-Sep. 09, thats their fiscal year.

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Beast_Master - 422 days 7 hours ago

HAZE!!! Was not multi-plat game folks. that is why PS3 has higher sales. I am sure if Take-Two posted their earnings from last year it would be flipped because they had Bio-shock and GTA4 plus 360 didn't have MLB the Show to compete with. Then if they showed this year PS3 would be higher because it has Bio-shock.

I hate 360 by the way, but let's have a little better prospective.

Now if EA or Activision say they made more on PS3 that would be big, but I doubt it with Rock Band 2(EA) timed exclusive and L4D (EA) not being on PS3.

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uxo22 - 422 days 7 hours ago

Man who knows, It says that the halfway point ended sept 08, therefore I'm guessing they FY is actually Apro 08 - Mar 09. Not Sept 09.

Page 2: "Paris, October 23, 2008 – Today, Ubisoft reported its sales for the fiscal half-year ended
September 30, 2008."

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XxZxX - 422 days 7 hours ago

shine1396,

read the 6 month report. It wasn't that hard isn't it.

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pwnsause - 423 days 3 hours ago

well it just shows that those anti-PS3 articles are invalid in every way, shape and form, its just a bunch of fanboys writing articles.

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tocrazed4you - 423 days 3 hours ago

Are you still in denial? THIS CAME FROM UBISOFT THEMSELVES ARE YOU TELLING ubisoft that they are wrong?
ANd yes it is unpredictable take the wii.. nintendo found a new market of families and kids and they are focusing on them while leaving the hardcore market for xbox 360 and ps3

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pwnsause - 423 days 3 hours ago

Siligon is just surprised that the crap articles that he reads on the Internet from anti-PS3 fanboys are just fake, and this article proves it. this is why EA went PS3 lead earlier in the Year. and it shows that we PS3 gamers love to Watch movies and Play Video games all the time thanks to the versitility of the PS3.

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Wildarmsjecht - 423 days 2 hours ago

"CViper - 1 minute ago

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Ignore7 - LoL at all of y ou idiots actually trying to decipher this stuff.
Who cares..? Anyone with sense knows the PS3 worldwide is doing just fine.

Get back to playing games. "

It's not about trying to decipher when we know the PS3 is doing fine worldwide, It's about trying to understand a different companies perspective on where their Q1 starts and ends, so that for future references, these charts can be easily understood and then of course, be discussed with everyone having at least a fair knowledge of the basics.

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Counter_ACT - 423 days 2 hours ago

Some people are interested in the gaming industry as well.

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OuterHaven - 423 days 2 hours ago

I hope it does, chaos theory was great, it had better come to PS3. They prolly make more money from it. Unless Msoft throws a bucket at them.

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Coheno - 423 days 2 hours ago

Well... it certainly has been taken back to the drawing board... But M$ has probably paid for a timed exclusive.

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morganfell - 423 days 2 hours ago

That's okay, I'll wait...and get the superior version when Ubisoft revamps all the issues and ads features.

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Halochampian - 423 days ago

wasnt it said that Conviction was going to be a 360 exclusive for a while now.

they wanted to bring Splinter Cell back to its "roots".

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morganfell - 422 days 21 hours ago

Yes that was said. Let's add that to the list of the numerous titles that began as exclusives and wound up multiplatform.

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Halochampian - 422 days 19 hours ago

yea.. but I am just saying at least it will be a timed exclusive. Now it may come to 360 but I think it will be exclusive in some shape and form.

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Sarcasm - 422 days 16 hours ago

Hasn't splinter cell always been multi-platform anyway?

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XxZxX - 423 days 2 hours ago

who told you they sold most on XBOX 360 worldwide.
VGChartz?

I guess you should listen from publisher from now on. Not from random site.

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Ramzadel - 423 days 2 hours ago

Actually Haze sold really well, mainly across the pond

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Ju - 422 days 23 hours ago

Also note, that the European market sold better for PS3 titles in general and add to this that the Euro / $ ratio was about +25%, it should add up to this result.

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Karum - 422 days 6 hours ago

The only figures you ever see are the US sales figures from NPD. The majority of multi platform games selling more on the 360 is something fanboys like to flash around based on US only figures.

The world is bigger than the US which is reflected in the financial reporrts for any company that operates on a worldwide basis.

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ultimolu - 423 days 1 hour ago

Yep, that's what I was thinking.

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Ju - 422 days 23 hours ago

The attach ratio is fake, even in the US. It mainly results from absolute numbers within the first year head start. Someone should evaluate the numbers over the current year only. I am pretty sure, that proportional to HW installs the PS3 is on par or even ahead the 360 even in the US. Fact is, the PS3 attach ratio is closing in on to that of the 360.

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GIJeff - 423 days 2 hours ago

20 million, - the 33% (this number has been reported as much higher and sometimes a little lower, so we'll use it to be safe)

Alive 360s: 15.4 million

That means that both consoles are within a million alive units of each other. The plot thickens.

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Jock - 423 days 2 hours ago

Thats because America doesn't account for the entire gaming industry..

Europe is the biggest market where the PS3 generally sells more multi-plat games than the 360

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The Killer - 423 days 2 hours ago

they tend to buy more of the same game because their beloved console keeps scratching and damaging the disks they put in!

while ps3 owner r the real ones that buy all type of games and have higher attach rate and their console is not hacked yet!

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 423 days 2 hours ago

2009/2010 -

PS3 40%

NDS 30%

Wii 11%

PSP 10%

PC 10%

PS2 5%

360 1% ;-D

(Don't think it adds up but nevermind!!! ;-D I got it off some random Blog!!!That's good enough for this site lately)

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FBl - 423 days 1 hour ago

Watch as all remaining xbox 360 exclusives become multiplatform games

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ultimolu - 423 days 1 hour ago

*does a robot dance*

Ooooh yeah!

Great time to be a PS3 owner! ^-^

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tocrazed4you - 423 days 2 hours ago

launch one year and 4 months ahead of the ps3 in europe and yet they arent even out selling it by over a million.... yeahhhhh

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morganfell - 423 days 2 hours ago

You obviously have never been to Europe. The PS3 is far beyond the 360 in Europe. Europe, the largest sales territory is the main reason why the PS3 outsells the 360 worldwide and has since launch.

Those numbers hurt, don't they little misguided bot.

And to think I just bought another PS3 today. Woohoo, go Sony go.

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ruibing - 423 days 2 hours ago

It's alright, it's very easy to get continents confused with each other.

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Why o why - 423 days 2 hours ago

thats the logic of a 3 year old and thats being harsh on all 3 year olds

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ThatCanadianguy420 - 423 days 2 hours ago

Keele..do you ever stop and ask yourself why you have only 3 bubbles?

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ThatCanadianguy420 - 423 days 2 hours ago

No my silly friend.It's because everything you say is complete bullsh!t

That and you troll all day.Must suck only having 3 bubbles.
Oh well !

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ultimolu - 423 days 1 hour ago

LOL!

Keele...that's exactly what you do.

Guys, don't anger the bots now. I don't have enough tissues for all of them! >-<

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morganfell - 423 days 1 hour ago

Yeah, 99% of this site are PS3 fanboys. That is why we ps3 FANS couldn't get rid of that ridiculous Ripten BS story that attacked the PS3 version of Far Cry. That is why the story that countered that ridiculous crap from Ripten was killed off by xbots in nothing flat.

But the truth is it's just like you were told above. You can't accept the facts so blaming it on PS3 fanboys is just another way of dodging reality. When you were a kid, did a ghost in the house pee your bed and then blame you?

I guess PS3 fanboys kidnapped Ubisoft execs, held them at gun point and forced these false figures to be released.

WHAT YOU CAN'T ACCEPT IS THAT MICROSOFT HAS SNOWED YOU AND A GOOD PORTION OF THE GAMING PRESS AND PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY OCCURRING IN THE CONSOLE WAR. YOU SPENT SO MUCH TIME READING ARTICLES ABOUT PS3 GAME INSTALLS OR HOW MGS4 WAS MOSTLY CUTSCENES THAT THE TRUTH WENT RIGHT BY YOU.

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morganfell - 423 days ago

Well if you live in Europe then I suggest coming out from under the bridge or getting off the Ubahn at the Kudaam and going up for some fresh air and joining 2008 because you are not acting like a well informed European citizen.

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tocrazed4you - 423 days 2 hours ago

is when the quarter ended

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jack who - 423 days 2 hours ago

so it September 09/08 not just September 09 like it is in the read.

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xaviertooth - 422 days 21 hours ago

time and again, xbots has shown how stuupid they are.

first a nobody claims europe is an xbox turf. and then another idiot (jack who) disputing an official data by not even reading the article. who's next? an idiot will say that shiitbox360 doesn't RRoD on them???

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ultimolu - 423 days 1 hour ago

....Don't be sad dear.
Them awesome titles are coming to the PS3 soon.

The PS3 is set to clean house with the 360. That will teach Microsoft a lesson about reliable hardware.

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ultimolu - 422 days 16 hours ago

You're an idiot.
It's from Ubisoft themselves.

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FailStation3 - 422 days 15 hours ago

nah. definitely fake.

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ultimolu - 422 days 14 hours ago

...LOL.

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