Don't believe the hype: Super Mario Galaxy is not that great (7/10)

malingenie - 760 days 17 hours ago

I have to agree. I see the videos of SMG, I don't get it. I would buy it if I have a Wii, it just doesn't look ?groundbreaking?

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ReBurn - 760 days 15 hours ago

It is a great game that is very well executed. I like Uncharted. It's a good game. I think that it is some of the best that the PS3 has to offer. But I think that SMG is a better game overall.

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unsunghero28 - 760 days 8 hours ago

Oh come on. Everyone around here claims CNet is biased because they're owned by Microsoft and then when they diss a Wii game it's "what I was expecting from day one." I hate to pull the bias card, but come on, people. This isn't even a legit review, just some guy's opinion, but of course the folks at N4G manage to pass it off as fact.

This is an amazing platformer and anyone who disagrees quite simply has not played it or just doesn't appreciate good platformers. It makes me sick that so many people around here would take such joy in a bad review, but it isn't exactly the first time.

Let's face it; N4G isn't about what is new and exciting anymore. It's about why things aren't new and exciting. All of the time that some of you guys spend ranting, and it's a wonder you've actually found the time to play anything.

Anyone feel free to disagree. Meanwhile, I'll go back to playing my favorite of the generation. Guess what it is?

Also, @ 1:
Don't compare Galaxy to Uncharted. You're just inviting a flamewar.

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Jenzo - 760 days ago

If it's not on the Playstation, it ain't good.

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TheMART at Xboxkings - 760 days 14 hours ago

Well I said on day one the PS3 is overhyped, but you still are in denial.

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cmrbe - 760 days 14 hours ago

Coming from someone that dosen't have a PS3 you don't make a good case. This article has nothing to do with PS3 or X360 and yet you still managed to talk carp about the PS3. I have a PS3 and i can honestly say it has lived up to my expectations and more.

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unsunghero28 - 760 days 8 hours ago

Now that you've called Galaxy a last-gen platformer....

Yeah, I think you're stupid.

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Feihc Retsam - 760 days 18 hours ago

SO true....!!!
Why even have "lives" if you get reset to the galaxy map when you die anyhow? It's so unnecessary! THere is no threat of failure in this game. Even back in Mario 64, if you died, you lost some serious progress.
SMG just lets you walk right through the game. I haven't finished the game yet, but I don't see it getting too hard.

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Darkiewonder - 760 days 19 hours ago

then the reviewer or site shouuld "piss off" all together. face it, it was bound to happen.

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razer - 760 days 18 hours ago

a Wii fanboy might hit you with his purse.

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Feihc Retsam - 760 days 18 hours ago

You may get hit with a rogue Wii-mote that has flung free of its wrist strap!

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ReBurn - 760 days 14 hours ago

There hasn't been a lot to play on the Wii yet. This is one of the better titles out there, so it is worth a purchase.

What I find sad is that pretty much the only games worth having are those created by Nintendo.

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Xi - 760 days 19 hours ago

that really was the best mario, they should really go back to those 2d games.

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Wii60PS3DSPSP - 760 days 19 hours ago

Well if you have played Mario Galaxy they have brought back themes from Mario 3 such as the flying ships and remixed music. Also the game has 2D parts and they work really nice.

Oh wow I got a disagree for this? This site is ridiculous.
lol 5 dissagree's this really is getting pathetic.

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Jenzo - 760 days ago

IMO Super Mario World was the best Mario game.

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Xi - 760 days 19 hours ago

I have it, it was fun, for the first galaxy.

Can someone explain to me why this is such a great game, what makes it better than sunshine? The camera's finicky and it can give you vertigo, and with the little to no challenge the game gets boring quick.

sometimes counting headshots can be just as fun as collecting stars.

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Xi - 760 days 19 hours ago

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scarlett_rg - 760 days 19 hours ago

For anyone who wants to know the difference between Galaxy and Sunshine... go see Beowulf in IMAX 3D, then go see it on a regular screen.

Mario Galaxy is Beowulf in IMAX 3D.

Mario Sunshine is Beowulf on a normal screen (actually make that the Swedish made "Beowulf and Grendel" from 2005)... since the 2 games are so totally different, it's not quite right to make a comparison using the same movie.

If you do this, you'll understand. But to put it simply, it's just a whole new level of enjoyment, and it's like nothing you've ever experienced before. That's why Mario Galaxy is so great. And just like Beowulf in IMAX 3D... even the not-so-good parts are visually stunning and completely enjoyable!

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FadeToBlack - 760 days 1 hour ago

Im sorry but I have to say, the wii is not capable of anything that is "visually stunning". I have super mario galaxy and am enjoying the game but its really nothing special. If you want to see something visually stunning, check out Uncharted or Mass Effect.

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Wii60PS3DSPSP - 760 days 19 hours ago

I say that because there is nothing freakin wrong with the game at all but he just complains about harmless things that hardly effect the game.

1st. He complains about the graphics, guess what Mario games are not about graphics but about fun.
2nd. "shake the Wii-mote" Awww Boo Hoo you have to use a little movement to do 1 certain attack move. Suck it up it's not that hard to do.
3rd. The story? Wtf do you want it's Mario... If you want story go play an rpg game or something.

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DrPirate - 760 days 19 hours ago

@ 10.1

Exactly man. There's nothing wrong with the game at all. Those that like platformers and Mario games will get a kick out of this.

Don't buy this game expecting a balls out action game complete with car chase and rocket launchers.Common sense... He underrated it because he just didn't like the genre. How Aaron Thomas under rated Ratchet, how everyone underrated God of War 2 :|.

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Xi - 760 days 19 hours ago

so wait.

games aren't about the story, graphics, or controls and gameplay. THEN WHAT ARE GAMES ABOUT?

sorry, but if we aren't counting story, graphics and controls, then all games should be getting 8's or 9's.

The fact is that mario is fun for the first 2 hours after you get over the initial control/camera problems and vertigo. But after those 2 or so hours it gets pretty repetative. With the 3 free lives you get right in the starting area all challenge is gone, not to mention you're guided through every level with an assortment of stars and coins to pick up.

For some people, choice, story and challenge make a game fun, and mario doesn't deliver on that. It's a one trick poney, and the gameplay is the same as every other 3d mario game, this game delivers nothing new, nothing different and really nothing special.

Maybe I'm one of those gamers that require developers to really push what games can be and Mario galaxy is really nothing above average, and is nothing more than mario sunshine with a fresh paint of coat. He's completely valid in saying what he's saying. If we expect less from our games, we're going to get less look at madden.

btw, I'm currently working on the kitchen galaxy, so the 3rd one or what ever, just unlocked the library and watched that awful story telling thing. So yes I have played the game, I can without any regret say the the game is not deserving of the 9-10 it's been getting.

It's only fun with a friend to mess you up and make you jump and spin and die.

edit 10.6
What's with this double standard for mario games?

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Wii60PS3DSPSP - 760 days 19 hours ago

Holy @#$% you are right Superman! This is the same guy who has been writing anti-Nintendo stuff. Just look at this stuff http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-...
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-...

Though it's not just Nintendo I think he hates games period
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-...
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-...

And he has to write this for pissing off everyone and getting hate comments for his articles.
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-...

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Shankle - 760 days 18 hours ago

Oh come on don't try to deny that reviewers are looking at SMG with rose tinted spectacles on. IGN gave it the same score for graphics as ratchet. Generally people are now reviewing games based on what they think the consoles should deliver, not on how good the games are. If SMG was released on the PS3 with a ps3 compatible wiimote, it would undoubtedly get a lower score. Look at uncharted. People can find very little wrong with it at all, and yet it can't even muster an average score of 90. On the other hand, mario has been recieving 10s and even an 11, despite its vastly inferior graphics and storyline. I know those aren't the important things in mario, but a 10 game should excel in every aspect.

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Wii60PS3DSPSP - 760 days 17 hours ago

You see that's the thing, Mario doesn't need graphics or story to be good compared to other games.

As for Uncharted I'd like to see someone say that they like throwing grenades using the sixaxis, so pointless, annoying to do and not needed. Not to completely diss it as i'm getting it for X-mas due to enjoying the demo, but come on after playing the demo Sony fans have no room to talk about how the Wii uses "gimmicks", and neither should this reviewer when it's so easy to do "spin attack" compared to throwing grenades in Uncharted, and any other pointless sixaxis things you do in that game. But realize this, even with these "gimmicks" they are still great games that should not be ignored because of them.

Is that so? Well that's good but I still fail to see why they even added it in the first place. Probally just for show to impress people.

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khellendros1 - 760 days 17 hours ago

um... you don't have to use the Sixaxis to throw grenades. It's just an option.

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Shankle - 759 days 18 hours ago

Well I for one, having not played lair, have enjoyed almost all of the motion sensing features in games. They just add to the game. I don't care how gimmicky or tacked on they might appear, they almost always work very well.

In ratchet and clank, there is a tornado launcher, and you can control the movements of this tornado with the sixaxis. Now this would feel very gimmicky if it didn't then provide freedom for ratchet to move around freely while you control the tornado. This would be impossible without the motion sensing. The game also contains sequences where ratchet flies with a pair of glider wings. The motion controls are very responsive here and it feels intuitive and it also reflects the fact that ratchet is using his body to control his direction of flight.
In call of duty 3 you perform melee attacks by swinging the controller forwards. This works great, and I desperately want other FPSs to adopt it.
In locoroco you have loads of mechanisms which you control very easily with the sixaxis in a variety of different ways.
Of course Warhawk has a very good implementation of motion sensing in the flying, and although I don't use them myself, my friends all enjoy them. Unfortunately, although using the sixaxis to fly is more fun, it is also more difficult. But the key thing is that they are optional.

I think the grenade throwing works great in uncharted. I can throw grenades quickly and accurately. And anyway why should you complain if as khellendros1 pointed out, you can turn them off?

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Maddens Raiders - 760 days 19 hours ago

the more we get closer to this (((magical))) Nov. 29th date the more I'm hearing about all of these HOME beta hints. Haven't seen the GI yet, but I know you're right and *hope it's true. If it is, it will make this great Fall run that the triple is on now, even better.

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Gamingisfornerds - 760 days 19 hours ago

It's possible, you know. I know that what you state probably does happen as well, but what also often happens is that when a reviewer expresses his own opinion which doesn't coinside with the fanboys of that certain game/console, he all of a sudden becomes an attention whore who doesn't know what he's talking about.

You could say that it's probably safer for a reviewer to go with the moot. Atleast people won't discard his reviews and stop reading his reviews after being refered to as unreliable and full of sh*t.

Just another perspective on this matter. ;)

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Marceles - 760 days 18 hours ago

Well yeah that's true, this review is purely opinion and preference too. He really lets the game have it though and sounds like he wants people to miss out on it. It also sounds like he's saying that between Sunshine, Mario 64, and Galaxy: Galaxy is the weaker of the bunch which is insane. Sunshine was good, but not as polished as Galaxy is. Not to mention, the different perspective you have when playing the game. You're not just going to fall off a simple ledge anymore. Here's another quote that summed up his review to me:

"But perhaps this is an issue that plagues the Wii more than this game itself. Is it possible that Wii-mote interaction is difficult and it only really works on mini-games and sports titles? Now that I've played Super Mario Galaxy, I certainly believe so."

Mario Galaxy proves if anything, that this isn't true. He just enjoys his regular controller and playing it old school, but he totally bashes the game for being different and in his opinion, not a huge leap from Sunshine to Galaxy. Maybe if there was a 4-way-to-play option like Smash Bros Brawl then he would like it more, but he's not buying into the Wii fad...I guess.

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Gamingisfornerds - 760 days 16 hours ago

Maybe he's disappointed in that it didn't turn out to be what he had hoped for.

Where fans of the series tend to get a bit carried away when the game turns out to be good, and get so excited that they'll perhaps be a bit too generous in the rating, the same applies when you're really disappointed in a game. You tend to be harsher with your judgement in those certain area's that didn't meet your expectations and that might be the case with this reviewer.

Also, different people put more weight on certain aspects of a game than others. For instance, I nearly always completely agree with the Gametrailers.com reviews. Nearly everything they mention could've been my own thoughts exactly. But more than often I'd give the game a much higher or lower score than them. Sometimes the difference in rating will be 1.5 points on a scale of 10. Even though I agree with all what has been said.

I guess my point is that even though you don't agree with the reviewers point of view or score, it's no reason to disregard the review entirely. He might still provide some interesting arguments that can help you on your decision whether o not to buy a game. A reviewer, to me, is mearly a source of information. If you read a few reviews, a few different views on the game, it can give you a better perspective on the game to base your decision on.

Btw, bubble for your open minded reply. That's quite refreshing I must say. ;)

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