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Analysis: How much further can the Wii go

Since its launch almost one year ago, the Nintendo Wii has certainly been the big surprise among the three major game console contenders. As we approach the one-year anniversary, TG Daily game expert Mark Raby reviews what has made the Wii the success it is today and how much room there is for more in the future.

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esreveR - 789 days 3 hours ago

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With games like Super Mario Galaxy and the new Smash Bros on the way showing what can be done on the Wii, I really don't see any reason to worry.

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season007 - 789 days 3 hours ago

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2 - My personal opinion is....not much

Aside from the fact that a lot of kids and girls are getting Wii, I don't see how this console can go a lot further

Most of my friend got wii had either sold it on ebay or covered it with dust...and most of them are either playing Xbox360 or PS3...or worse if they can't afford a HDTV yet, PSP-2000...

The games in the launch of Wii was good, but the innovation didn't last
imo they could have produced much better games that utilize the use of Wii remote, but they have just been releaseing same types of game over and over and modify some games which does not need Wii remote and plays better...such as some of the FPS , RPG, dragon ball or the coming PES 2008...

If Nintendo is not going to change its strategy in the production of game for 3rd party developers, the 80%+ crappy game rate is going to ruin this machine for sure...

i believe there should be more unrevealed power of Wii but it is often overlooked with the FAKED innovation in most of the games...i don't think Wii can't even have on par graphical ability as PS2, it is just most 3rd party devs trying to fool the consumers with all the Wii remote game...if they can change its strategy, i am sure it can last for another 2-3 years

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wAtdaFck - 789 days 2 hours ago

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2.1 - wow

I give this post 3 thumbs up. I wholly agree.

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forum_crawler - 789 days 2 hours ago

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2.2 - ahem...

"i don't think Wii can't even have on par graphical ability as PS2"

You do realize that the GC had more horsepower than the PS2 right? if you don't believe me look it up... google is your friend...

I think Nintendo is doing pretty good for themselves and there is no reason to worry at all here is why:

1. They sell more consoles than everybody else.
2. They make money on the sale of every console.
3. Third party developers do sell lots of games on the wii (i.e. RE4)
4. They have the largest install base.
5. People buy games.

Nope. I don't think Nintendo has anything to worry about, and I think that for as long as this round of consoles lives, Nintendo will continue to sell more.

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season007 - 789 days 1 hour ago

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2.3 - to 2.2- No offense but...

three out of five reasonings are they sell consoles, you do know gaming industry was called gaming industry because it is mostly about game? and who cares if they make money on their console..it is about how far it can go

and i have said Wii should be able to perform as good as PS2 graphically but it hasn't done it in its first year...which is totally untolerable because it doesn't have the complex structure of PS3, and it should've delivered much better game

btw, mystery disgrees+mystery bubbles gone for the win =)

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forum_crawler - 789 days 1 hour ago

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2.4 - Consider RE4

A game with an inferior PS2 engine when compared to the game cube version. It was because the cube had more guts. They compensated by introducing more content. The Wii version of the game uses the cube engine + the additional content from the PS2 version plus the added controller system.

Super Mario Galaxy is a game that gives us a hint of what the wii can do graphically, and while it isn't on par with PS3/360 titles, it shows that it can render great graphics.

Knocking the wii because it's lower graphical ability would be like knocking the PS3/360 for lacking the graphics potential of PC's. Take UT3. Guess what, the game is 20% SLOWER on the PS3 than the PC version for two reasons, aiming with the regular controller, and frames. The PS3 just doesn't have the bandwidth to compete with PC graphics. Does that mean that we should talk badly about it? No. Gears of War, guess which platform supports the best graphics... yes it is the PC.

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season007 - 789 days ago

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2.5 - forum i think you've misunderstood my opinion

i am saying PS2 graphic is ok but wii fail to deliver it when it should've...meaning i expect it to deliver better prodcut graphically and it doesn't have to get on PS3 or xbox 360 standard =/

I don't want to be mean in here so yea... i didn't knock wii for its graphical performance by any means

edit: and oh yea.. i don't have any more bubbles to talk about so =)

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forum_crawler - 788 days 23 hours ago

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2.6 - gotcha

Give the wii some time. Once developers catch on and realize what can be done with the wii, the quality of the games will improve, and so will the graphics.

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GIJeff - 788 days 16 hours ago

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2.7 - the wii

is dead to me. Long live real innovation (PS Eye control, modern TV support, etc..) The wiimote is a cheap gimmik that chicks and non-gamers like. So good for them, i dont care if anyone has fun, in fact i incourage it. The wii like most fads wont last long. The Wii is the jean jacket of consoles. Everyone wants one until 1 popular person says "ew, thats sooooo 5 minutes ago" then before you know it, everyone is off the wii wagon.

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forum_crawler - 787 days 14 hours ago

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2.8 - @2.7

You talk about real innovation and yet you are suggesting consoles??? Now you have me confused?!?!?!?

You want real innovation, play games on your PC. That is where you get to see most of the innovation.

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TruthbeTold - 787 days 13 hours ago

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2.9 - lol @ GIJeff...

It's the highly expensive, HD-Wallet busting consoles that are the "trendy Jean Jackets". Everyone wants one, but they stick to what's natural, tried and true rather than over pay for the sake of unnecessary (At the current price) graphics overkill. Nintendo is pumping out more Wii's than ever before, and they are still flying off the shelves. Why? Because it's fun, innovative, and affordable, the way gaming should be.

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sidar - 789 days ago

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@season
So when developers dont even try making use of the Wii, and start pumping out low-end PS2 games, its the Wii's fault?

"the 80%+ crappy game rate is going to ruin this machine for sure... "

and how is this Wii's fault again?
if its a crappy game its not because of the console but because of the developers.

if ya like PS2 on the gfx department so much, you can also open your eyes to look @ the PS2 library and notice the few crappy games.

but did it made de PS2 " bad ".
first year was crappy, so yess, but from the upcoming line up you can tell its getting better.

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FelicityOldGamer - 788 days 21 hours ago

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4 - Dont forget people! FIRST Year!

It´s the first year for the Wii... The next year we will see a great improvement on the Wii

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Jammy2211 - 788 days 20 hours ago

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A terribly written article that didn't seem informed about the Wii at all and dodged alot of obvious points when trying to look right. I mean when it was listing 'traditional' Wii games, it mentioned Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess, yeah fine. Then it went onto slate the Wii for a lack of them, without mentioned the best of them thus far (Super Mario galaxy, Zack and Wiki, Metroid Prime 3, Resdient Evil 4, Fire Emlbme, Battalion Wars 2, Trauma Center etc).

The writer just doesn't seem to have a clue how the industry works and what the hell they're talking about. When he said about PSP-PS3 intergration, is that even possible yet? I've read about some of the awesome stuff thats up coming, but can you actually do any of it yet? Except use it as a rear view mirror in Ridge Racer...? Also Rock Band is coming to the Wii in 2008.

Then to round things off, he tries to suggest the Wii might stop being so successful if Nintendo don't change their stategy. Yeah, right, Nintendo's current strategy is failing isn't it? Perhaps they should raise the console to a $600 pricepoint or something? okay...

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GIJeff - 788 days 15 hours ago

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5.1 - PSP PS3 intigration

Actually, you can use your PSP to access files and games on your PS3 from anywhere on the planet. AND, you can play LAIR on the PSP from your PS3. Thats real innovation.

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Jammy2211 - 788 days 10 hours ago

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Yeah, I read about that and was very impressed. Thing was, you couldn't do it yet. It was a plan for the future, something which would happen but wasn't set to yet.

However, that may just be in Europe. Perhaps Sony are just giving us the cold shoulder while they've already got that set up in America? Or perhaps you're just stating what is coming, but not yet avaliable?

Although it'll be great when it happens, and sounds incredible, if it's not yet avaliable then really it shouldn't count, right?

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TheExodus - 788 days 20 hours ago

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In it's first week Manhunt 2 sold 57K copies on PS2 while it sold 51K copies on Wii with roughly 1/10th the install base. I think Wii's biggest obstacle right now is that Nintendo insists on crediting the "casual" gamer for Wii's runaway success & to some extent that may be true for hardware sales, but the "hardcore" gamer is still driving software sales. Hopefully Manhunt 2 sales will convince 3rd party developers that it's time to call it quits with the mini-game collections & start developing games with a little more meat on their bones for Wii.

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GIJeff - 788 days 15 hours ago

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6.1 - I agree

Its gamers who buy games for themselves.

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Vizion26 - 788 days 17 hours ago

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7 - Another "The Wii won't last post"

Nevermind it has been outselling the PS3 and 360 combined. Nevermind there are games for the core gamers such as Mario Galaxy, Zack and Wiki, and Metroid Prime 3, and more to come. Nevermind that most gamers are not "hardcore" gamers. Nevermind that most gamers don't care about HD graphics. Nevermind the least powerful console in almost every generation sold the most. Nevermind the Wii is the fastest selling console ever and is on pace to beat the sales of PS2. Nevermind...... ooh just nevermind.

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GIJeff - 788 days 15 hours ago

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7.1 - well

some people are sprinters, some people are joggers. The wii is going to run out of steam fast, while the PS3 hast even come close to top speed. Remember the PS2...slow start, and still going strong.

And thats what this whole discussion is about.

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KnowitAll - 788 days 14 hours ago

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"For the PS3, there's Ratchet & Clank Future and Folklore. On the Xbox 360, we're talking about Half-Life 2 and Halo 3. The Wii, meanwhile, gets things like Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games and EA Playground, which are fun but not exactly games that pull you into an immersing environment. "
Dam, was this dude able to write that with a straight face? Completely ignoring Metriod Prime, or even mario galazy or the pimping resident evil game?

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Jammy2211 - 788 days 10 hours ago

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"For the Wii, there's Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3. On the Xbox 360, we're talking about Scene It and Viva Pinata; Party Animals!. The Ps3, meanwhile, gets things like Eye of Judgement and SingStar, which are fun but not exactly games that pull you into an immersing environment. "

Gotta love turning around his stupid and flawed logic, aye?

As soon as I read the sentence you pulled out, I cringed and realised what a load of fanboy mush this guy was writing.

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esreveR - 788 days 13 hours ago

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9 - Too early.

It's way too early to count Wii out of anything. With games like Resident Evil, Metroid, and Zak and Wiki getting so much praise it's obvious there have been some good games put out there. The graphics have already been proven to be impressive, just look at Red Steel, there's no way you can tell me those graphics were under PS2 standards. And to say that the wii remote is a cheap gimmick and not innovative is total BULL. It's obvious that PS3 took a cue from the wii remote to create their 6-axis (Oh yeah and doesn't Playstaion Home remind you of Wii's Miis just a little?). I don't think I've ever had more fun with a controller, the Wii really brought be back to the Duck Hunt days, but instead of shooting ducks I was shooting asian gangsters in Red Steel. With games like Super Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros coming along, Wii will put these naysayers to rest. Hell, the 10/10 reviews for Super Mario Galaxy should already be shutting you guys up.

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