NG2 and NGS2 textures compared; night and day

Lou-Cipher - 76 days 1 hour ago

The difference is quite significant in the PS3's favor.

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MmaFanQc - 76 days ago

the 360 version was a beta?

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Cold 2000 - 76 days ago

Yeah a beta that scored higher:
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/o...

NGS2: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/objec...

Lucky I didnt wait one year and a half for Sigma.

Its clear the wait wasnt worth it (unless you're a whore for graphics, in that case yeah...maybe)

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FlipMode - 76 days ago

Since when did IGN become the last word? Ill wait for more people to review it. And most likely Sigma will score better.

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ReviewsArePolitics - 76 days ago

"whereas the latter has had the development time (and Team Ninja's experience developing the first Ninja Gaiden Sigma) to bump that resolution up to the high-definition 1280 by 720."

lol @ excuses, the 360 is an easy platform to develop for. Besides, according to Itagaki, Sigma was developed by their "B-team". Just admit what you don't want to admit.

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Cold 2000 - 76 days ago

Well all the other sites are paid by MS so I only take into account IGN and PS only magazines just like you guys :)

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Statix - 76 days ago

Just graphics? Obviously, you didn't do your research (not surprising consider you're an Xbox fanboy), but aside from the drastic improvement in graphics (almost generational difference) there's also new weapons, enemies, characters, and an online cooperative mode.

I'm glad I didn't pay $60 for a beta test with last-gen graphics (360 version).

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starvinbull - 76 days ago

Having played and loved the recent PS3 demo it's obvious which version is better but it seriously has been built with gore in mind and to remove it does diminish from what would be a top tier action game otherwise.

Not a GOW3 beater but certainly not a million miles away from it.

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ZombieAutopsy - 76 days ago

what does score matter, we all know it looks better, has more gameplay, and touched up the frame-rate and such...its obviously a better version you just seem butthurt my friend and you have no reason to be so just cut it out.

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tatotiburon - 76 days ago

a beta WITH GORE

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Cold 2000 - 76 days ago

That doesnt justify a extra 16 month wait.

And yeah Im sooooooooo butthurt right now.../s

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Tomonobu Itagaki - 76 days ago

Hold on, why talking about beta? Yes, Sigma 2 improved compared to Ninja Gaiden 2, but whoever played Ninja Gaiden 2 wont feel playing a beta. In Ninja Gaiden 2, you have dozens environments with twice more boss which fills over 20 hours of intense gameplay, epic battles and high challenge.

It's much more than any other game in the genre, and everyone knows Ninja Gaiden series remains unbeatable in terms of gameplay. So far, not a single game could take Ninja Gaiden 2's crown. Xbox 360 owners have been glad to play an awesome game and PS3 owners benefited of a development year in order to increase that unique experience.

That's not like some kind of game that are half-baked and 5 hours long with a sequel announced 6 months after its release. I'm not targeting Left4Dead at all. But with this game, people should agree that compared to Left4Dead 2, gamers have been taken as beta testers. But Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2? It's only the prolongation of one of the best action game available on next gen consoles.

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FlipMode - 76 days ago

"And yeah Im sooooooooo butthurt right now..."

Yah you seem it

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ZombieAutopsy - 76 days ago

sad thing is the wait was proly due to some deal with MS since they published it, and what does a wait matter if a game was suppose to be an "exclusive" and no one was expecting it to come to ps3 anyways.

Butthurt troll you are indeed cold. XDF FOR LIFE!!!

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ultimolu - 76 days ago

I like how Cold 2000 tried to spin this into which game had the better score. Seriously, that's really pathetic.

Even more pathetic, he brings up a game that has NOTHING to do with the topic. I would hope you're being sarcastic for your own sake.

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Cold 2000 - 76 days ago

By the way how dat Ghostbusters BETA going ??

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AclayPS3 - 76 days ago

"a beta WITH GORE"

I honestly don't see how more Gore makes Ninja Gaiden 2 more special, because other than that, Sigma 2 is the better version in every aspect.

Sigma 2 may not have all the gore, but that's where God of War 3 steps in and fills that void.

"By the way how dat Ghostbusters BETA going ??"

LOL, when in doubt, the 360 guys turn to Multiplatform games, but we all know that most PS3 exclusives shine over Multiplats, so that argument is just a joke.

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N4XBOXG - 76 days ago

you know someone is butthurt when they have to talk about a kids game like ghostbusters.

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mastiffchild - 76 days ago

Oh Cold you are daft sometimes. I bought the 360 game and the camera was awful and now I'm also thankful the gore's been turned down as well as the camera fixed!

I know some have made a big deal of it but, honestly, combined with the camera it made seeing exactly what was going on a mightmare at some points in NG2. I'm buying NGS2 purely because of those two points which, nearly, imo, made the 360 game a bit too much of a pain(and I'm a series fan!)-the extras on top are just an added bonus.

The lower review scores baffle me. The core gameplay hasn't altered, the camera's fixed and the game looks a lot better with no slowdown now either as well as the texture and res bump. All we can possibly assume is it's being marked dwn because the reviewers are ovsessed with gore! Seriously, even if you love blood and guts that's the only way in which you could say NG2 is the better game and , for me, everything else is more important(even if I'm pretending I liked the gore!).

Otherwise the games better all round and al I can think is it's marked down because they feel TN should have done even more-which still isn't fair when it's true that given both games for free you'd be daft to choose NG2 over Sigma. It's a lot better for the added polish and fixes and gore addicts apart it shouldn't even be an issue.

That said I do feel it's wronmg of KT not to patch the samera fix in for 360 only gamers. Extras for waiting a year is, imo, fair enough but when it's a tech issue that nearly wrecked the original game they REALLY should give it to all their customers, shouldn't they?

Anyway, Cold fella, if you're happy then that's fine but why pi55 on someone elses chips for no good reason. You're better than that mate.

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Brutallyhonest - 75 days 23 hours ago

Sigma 2 has more to offer then just better graphics and you know it.
You are not kidding anyone including yourself.

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Omega Archetype - 75 days 22 hours ago

I guess that Cold guy doesn't realize that this is a different IGN team reviewing it. It's not the same guy, and both have different views on the game entirely.

I wonder what the score would be should the review come from the same exact person. I mean, there's absolutely no reason that NGS2 would not be better then NG2 considering the better resolution, visuals, content, online co-op with the exact same gameplay and extra characters. Even the lack of blood wouldn't take away from NGS2 being a better game.

It just doesn't seem logical to me, but because it's a different reviewer, it makes sense that one guys would maybe feel that the game isn't as good as the other feels it is. That's called a difference of opinion and everyone has one, yet not all are the same.

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solidjun5 - 75 days 22 hours ago

oh cold, you 360 fanboy, you do sound butthurt right now.

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Chubear - 75 days 22 hours ago

Apparently, not to IGN it doesn't lol

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evrfighter - 75 days 22 hours ago

I played the demo on my ps3...

Was a waste of bandwidth and my time -_-

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Brutallyhonest - 75 days 21 hours ago

^irony

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callahan09 - 75 days 20 hours ago

From the article: "There's also another obvious difference that some gamers are disappointed with. The PS3 game doesn't feature the gore that made the Xbox 360 version so visceral. Instead of blood squirting from disembodied enemies, Sigma 2 spurts out purple sparks."

I played the demo on PS3 and the full version on 360, and I don't even notice the difference in gore. The camera moves around so much during the action, for close-up shots, etc., and there's so much quick movement going on at a time, and so many enemies on screen, that I never even notice the extra blood on the 360 version. And on both versions, after each battle the whole area is strewn with torn limbs and blood splatters. The aftermath of a fight looks identical on both platforms, equally bloody and gory in terms of what's left lying on the ground. Not even worth mentioning the blood in either game, they're both very gory.

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Reibooi - 75 days 20 hours ago

The funny thing is when I played the Original NG2 I thought it looked great but WOW the PS3 version looks incredible. It really is night and day.

I would also like to say that I don't mind the lack of insane amounts of blood. I mean it doesn't really change the way the game plays or anything.

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Ju - 75 days 19 hours ago

That's quite hilarious how Sigma 2 gets talked down in the press and even here. The new version is quite an achievement and like some said, from a technical perspective this almost like a different generation to the first one. But we are still arguing about every crappy pixel in MP games, and yet this game is testament of a major improvement. Maybe its just the one year, but its so much more then just brushed up textures. Never seen comparison shots which are more obvious then this - and we are still arguing. Really hilarious. Well, and BTW, the demo on my machine runs crystal clear 1080. No idea if its upscaled, but it certainly is not blurry.

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IaMs12 - 75 days 3 hours ago

Common Freaking sense people! Why are we comparing them then? The PS3 version is suppose to have better textures, im sure if the 360 version came out a year or so later as well it would be better looking.

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Foliage - 76 days ago

Even if you somehow missed the better lighting, shadows, and bump mapping... How can you miss the fact that they are completely different textures?

You bots really do see only what you want to. Every time your 360 goes in for repair does your brain turn off until it comes back? I mean... how far does this delusion go?

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starvinbull - 75 days 22 hours ago

Completely different textures! Do your eyes not see them?

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deep - 76 days ago

What about COD4?

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Captain Tuttle - 75 days 23 hours ago

16 months more development time tends to make a better looking, smoother playing game.

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Evocation - 75 days 22 hours ago

That is wrong on so many levels. :(

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Elven6 - 75 days 20 hours ago

Using your logic every PS3 game should be 1080p or at least HD (720p), storage space plays a minimal role for HD gaming in the grand scheme of things, it all depends on your engine. What could are 1080p textures on your disc if your engine slows to a crawl trying to process them?

Regarding Ninja Gaiden 2, it was clear weeks before launch when Itagaki left that the game would have had issues, hell he was public about essentially leaving the game in an alpha phase before he and his team left.

Sigma 2 on the other hand benefits from a longer more uninterrupted development schedule.

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OpenGL - 75 days 19 hours ago

Storage Space has absolutely nothing to do with the rendering resolution.

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Sarcasm - 75 days 16 hours ago

"16 months more development time tends to make a better looking, smoother playing game. "

How exactly is it 16 months "MORE" development time? It's not like they've been working on it for 2 years and then another so called 16 months. They made the game in 16 months.

The basic core of the game like the story is probably the only thing they've really ported. But if you look at the screenshots, they re-did EVERYTHING. Textures, character models, lighting, resolution, new modes, new characters etc.

People stop trying to spin this because it's superior in all forms (except gore but that's subjective)

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deep - 76 days ago

I don't think it matters though in this context...you can see the textures very clearly.

Be nice if they could add higher resolution images though.

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Tomonobu Itagaki - 76 days ago

Yes, lightings influence much on a texture perception, but this time, it's not a matter of lighting.

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starvinbull - 75 days 22 hours ago

"given the extra development time I would expect it to look better".

No sorry you're wrong. It didn't have "extra development time" it was developed over a period of no more than 18 months though probably several less months.

The reason TN were able to make NGS2 for the PS3 is because they rebuilt most of it for the PS3. The fact that the animations, character design, level designand FMV were possibly recycled doesn't take away from the fact yes NGS2 is a new game albeit very, very similar. New textures, characters, new environments, story elements, weapons, new framerate and new lighting.

They weren't starting from a completed NG2 with only the extra content to create. That would imply that almost all the content was recycled.

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deep - 76 days ago

Uh...why is the gameplay better in NG2? They're the same - except NGS2 has a better camera and framerate.

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FlipMode - 76 days ago

Don't pay attention to him deep, He's clearly on hard damage control.

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AclayPS3 - 76 days ago

The 360 version has the better gameplay?

Both of them have the exact same gameplay. The biggest difference is that Ninja Gaiden 2 has more Gore than Sigma 2, but more Gore doesn't make the gameplay better.

The PS3 version has the exact same gameplay, has better graphics, and has an Online Mode, it's the definitive version.

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PowerOfGreenBoogers - 75 days 22 hours ago

This is exactly what i have been saying all along with Microsoft and their deceptive ways. I used to get excited about the videos i would see online of games like Halo3 and Gears then when i would load up my 360 with the game and the reality would kick in. Microsoft can no longer fool me, it's unfortunate that i had to learn the hard way but oh well.

Prime example:
In menu model
http://i57.photobucket.com/...

In game model
http://i57.photobucket.com/...

Credit to Z0bmi for the screens.

Where did all those 2 Million polys Turn 10 was going on about go. Maybe they went right out the f'n tailpipe. I'm so tired of these Microsoft devs and their BS.

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FlipMode - 76 days ago

lol @ the damage control in the gamer zone.

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 75 days 22 hours ago

LMAO. Cant wait to play the Definitive PS3 version, LOL. Just hope they Bring ME1 to the System, if it ever happens.

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Delta - 75 days 22 hours ago

It will... Oh it will.

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Delta - 75 days 23 hours ago

That's all 360 is good for, Oh and Beta Testing. LOL suck it bots

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Delta - 75 days 23 hours ago

LOL you sound butthurt. Go test some more games for me you bot.

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Grand Turdismo 2015 - 75 days 23 hours ago

So if the xbox got a ps3 game a year later, that would also be beta testing on the ps3 or would that be leftovers for the xbox fans? Which one?

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Delta - 75 days 23 hours ago

Nope, It would just be a downgraded pile of sh!t that 360 can't even handle. LOL
I wonder what 360 game PS3 will get next Mass Effect?

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Grand Turdismo 2015 - 75 days 23 hours ago

Well, seeing as how we did take Final Fantasy and Metal Gear from you, you can have...err...Geometry Wars 1, the gimped version!!! Enjoy!

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Delta - 75 days 23 hours ago

LOL nice try 360 is not going to look or play better than PS3.

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dustgavin - 75 days 22 hours ago

7.4 -
"Well, seeing as how we did take Final Fantasy and Metal Gear from you, you can have...err...Geometry Wars 1, the gimped version!!! Enjoy!"

We also acquired these games from 360:
Condemned 2
Lost Planet 2
Dead Rising 2
Star Ocean
Ninja Gaiden 2
Last Remnant

Keep 'em coming, bots!

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 75 days 22 hours ago

Well you actually never took Metal Gear from the PS3... You guys dont have MGS4, the Greatest game of all time...

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Grand Turdismo 2015 - 75 days 18 hours ago

"You guys dont have MGS4, the Greatest game of all time"

No, but we will have the new MGS, a much better game than the last. Thanks a lot, droids!

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Delta - 75 days 23 hours ago

Better textures, Framerate, Graphics, and More content > Blood
Silly Xbot, Superior Games are for PS3.

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PowerOfGreenBoogers - 75 days 22 hours ago

Don't you have something better to do then to talk nonsense about things you know nothing about. How about you go jackoff to Halo 3 DLC and GTFO of here.

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sak500 - 75 days 22 hours ago

LOL @ grandturdismo 2015

You konw they know if droids are sliced what happens so they added sparks to entice the haemdroids of n4g to go and buy the game rather then spending all their time on n4g trolling 360 news. If they really had ps3s and were gamers they would not be here with 10 accounts loggin in everyday and selfbubbling themselves. You can see the losers here with 8+ bubbles who are trolling all the time.

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OmegaSlayer - 75 days 22 hours ago

Actually sir, you're a little dumb.
The game plays wonderful, with a better (yet absolutely not perfect) camera.
This is fun at the purest state.
And I didn't find the need of gallons of gore.
That is a thing that kiddies need.
i don't play this game for the blood but for the fun.
And on the PS3 the game delivers.
1 year later...
I
don't
f'n
care
less.
And I prefer better textures than splats of blood that are only stickers.

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PowerOfGreenBoogers - 75 days 22 hours ago

WTF are you going on about dum@ss. Why don't you go join Grand Turdismo in a big circle j@rk and GTFO of here also.

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