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Ganondorf - Goodnight Sweet Prince

It's been a long and storied road for the antagonist of 8 Zelda titles to date. He's captured Princess Zelda many a time, been longing for the triforce since 1986, and always loses in the end to a the almighty hero... Link. He helped influence the spread of the twilight realm in Twilight Princess, the flooding of Hyrule in The Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, and always seems to convince a loyal minion to bring him back from the clutches of eternal damnation. Yet, despite all this, it's time for him to simply say goodbye.
AbsoluteZelda - contributor
Published: 132 days 3 hours ago | Article | Wii
 
 

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roblef - 132 days 4 hours ago
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That would be like saying that The Princess Zelda needs to go. The nemesis is a staple, and seems to work for the series. Why change that?
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EvilTwin - 132 days 3 hours ago
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Well, it worked for Majora's Mask. Most under-appreciated Zelda game ever.

I love the series. Twilight Princess kept me entertained for weeks. But essentially, I had played the game before. All the gameplay mechanics go back to OoT. They're going to have to reinvent the wheel a bit gameplay-wise, or perhaps a new villain might help. I kinda agree with the writer -- LoZ:TP would've been better overall if Zant had been the main attraction. IMO, of course.
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sidar - 131 days 22 hours ago
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@evil,
But zelda isn't involed with all zelda games...so not sure why people are so up to this point with it.

The title is just legend of zelda.

They need more items, that would be used more trough out the whole game.
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Cheeseknight28 - 131 days 22 hours ago
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I disagree. Seeing Ganondorf halfway through the game at the sand ruins was the biggest WTF moment in the entire game. I thought he would show up eventually, but the flashback that revealed him was great. His role in "creating" Zant was well done, I thought.

There have also been plenty of different Zelda main villains added. Here are the ones I can think of:

-Adventure of Link: Thunderbird + Shadow Link
-Link's Awakening: Dethl (The shadow in the Wind Fish)
-Oracle of Season + Ages: Onyx (Seasons) + Veran (Ages) (Yes I know Ganondorf and Twinrova showed up eventually, but they were basically bonus bosses)
-Majora's Mask: Skull Kid
-Legend of Zelda LTTP Four Swords: Vaati
-Four Swords Adventures: Vaati
-Minish Cap: Vaati
-Phantom Hourglass: Bellum

Yes, you could argue that the "main games" use Ganondorf only as the final boss, but I don't think he is overused in the slightest. I kinda wish they would elaborate on his background though. Evil prince born in Gerudo Village doesn't quite cut it for me.
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Xander-RKoS - 132 days 2 hours ago
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Well...in Twilight Princess he was more of a surprise twist ending boss. Like, Zant has Ganondorf's power...but then oh look, he actually came back! He had a much bigger role in Wind Waker.

ANYWAYS, I don't really think they need to get rid of him. If "Link" and Zelda keep reincarnating, why not Ganondorf. I am getting a little tired of the OoT Ganon constantly coming back for vengeance against Hyrule and the Hero or Time...but if they reincarnated him into a different Ganondorf (kinda like Zelda/Tetra from Wind Waker being a pirate at first)...

Hey a thought, what if they do introduce a new villain in the next Zelda, and Ganondorf actually becomes one of your allies (totally different character who has the triforce of power). Huh? HUH?
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AbsoluteZelda - 132 days 1 hour ago
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I agree that Ganondorf could be used in a twisted roll to help get rid of a greater evil. Would be an amazing gameplay element to have to be force to work with Link.

Again, that still holds the same premise as the writer though: That a new end game villain is called for. Think about the Twilight Princess twist at the end. Ganondorf's "power" seemed much more daunting when Zant used it then when he did. I mean, he turned Link back in a wolf, dismissed the shadow mask as a toy against his power (which magically became extremely useful against Ganondorf himself), and put Midna on her death bed.

Ganondorf's power was, in essence, stronger in Zant then in himself. When Ganondorf appeared... it was like "free win". Glad to see that people enjoyed the piece. Us folks at ZI love writing about Zelda.
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sidar - 131 days 22 hours ago
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"I am getting a little tired of the OoT Ganon constantly coming back for vengeance against Hyrule and the Hero or Time."

Errr..he doesn't come back for vengeance, he comes back to make his wish come true by collecting all triforce triangles ( basically zelda and link).
They should totally make a game about zelda who can turn into a ninja( sheik )=D
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mrnintendo96 - 132 days ago
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We need a game telling Ganondorf's history. That would be AWESOME.
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LeGenDx - 131 days 21 hours ago
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imagion play a zelda through ganondorfs eyes.
like play him as a character an how he became to be
SICK
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Murderdolls - 131 days 23 hours ago
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Why not introduce a new character and have them team up or something? They should try to flip the series on its head and have Link actually fail in the end to open it up for a 2 part game.
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Tatsumaki - 131 days 23 hours ago
5 - Getting rid of ganon wouldn't make sense because
He's part of the TriForce thats like making a Legend of Zelda with out having Link and Zelda, spinoffs maybe but not if your gonna continue the theme.

lol
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sidar - 131 days 22 hours ago
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Its not as if Ganon was used in all zelda games.
they also introduced 2 new end bosses in the Ages and Seasons for the gameboy. And in minish cap Vati.

All games arent about Zelda or Ganon. Even though the titles says : Legen of zelda, its more about link himself.
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Quadrix - 131 days 22 hours ago
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Technically Ganon was the final boos in Ages/Seasons if you beat one game and then entered the secret code you obtained into the other.
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sidar - 131 days 20 hours ago
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Thats true, but ONLY if you had both games ( Capcom ( yes capcom) wanted to do both games in one but it was way to big).

So on their own its still 2 end bosses.

And as cheese said, he is a bonus boss. Although the story changes a bit though.
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AbsoluteZelda - 131 days 16 hours ago
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Technically - Ganon is the end of OoA and OoS - not some "bonus boss". The story doesn't "change" - it is what the story is intended to be. It's just like when you play FS that came with ALttP remake: both games effect eachother. It's intended. Ganon isn't a bonus, he is the end boss of both OoA and OoS. Both games lead to the exact same end, as intended.

Not that it really matters. Just wanted to point out that he isn't some sort of bonus content. He is the true end of the game. You cannot claim to have beaten OoA or OoS without having beaten Ganon. It was a good promotional tool to get people to buy both games.
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sidar - 131 days 9 hours ago
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" it is what the story is intended to be."
Thats what i said, they wanted to make one game out of it but it was too big. Therefore 2 new end bosses were created.

In the end you only fight ganon if you have both games, if don't have both of them you still fight one of the END bosses.

And the story changes a bit, if you start one of the games with the code zelda will be more in the scene and there will be told more about ganon.

Yes the game itself is the same until you reach the end, but what is being said is different.

either way at least for one of the games there was a new end boss(depending on which one you played first) cause you wouldn't fight against ganon before you get the code.
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hatchimatchi - 131 days 10 hours ago
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i don't ever wanna see ganon go, that'd be a terrible mistake.
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EvilTwin - 131 days 9 hours ago
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Cheeseknight28 -- I would love to see a game that goes deeper into Ganon's backstory (instead of him just popping up as a plot twist). That would be worth the price of admission alone.

I just knew he'd end up somewhere in TP, and Zant seemed to be an adequate villain. However, that final sword duel was pretty badass...can't deny that.
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