Why Wii Sells and Why Wii Sucks

mrnintendo96 - 263 days 12 hours ago

Every single system has drawbacks and advantages. I can list the Wii's advantages:

Great First-Party Games. You know every hardcore game Miyamoto touches turns into gold.

Great First Party Controls: The controls for first-party games are very great.

Some Great Third-party Games: MadWorld, No More Heroes, Call of Duty: World at War, Tenchu 4, etc.

Virtual Console: Virtual Console is a massive library of classic games on 8 consoles.

The Wii doens't suck. It is a great system. Read my review.

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Etseix - 263 days 10 hours ago

@mrnintendo96 ^^^

Great First-Party Games. You know every hardcore game Miyamoto touches turns into gold.* --- Mario Galaxy,TLoZ:TP,Metroid, SSBB, er.... name me a few more that are *hardcore* right now, and no, miyamoto dont touch hardcore games these days =/

Great First Party Controls: The controls for first-party games are very great.* --- yes.. most of them still i preffer SSBB with aa classis controler.

Some Great Third-party Games: MadWorld, No More Heroes, Call of Duty: World at War, Tenchu 4, etc.* ---yindeed but.. most of Wii owners dont take them seriusly, mad world is an amazing game and, aside of that, best third party games are on xbox n ps3

Virtual Console: Virtual Console is a massive library of classic games on 8 consoles.*--- lol yeah no kidding, only thign i hate is that theyr too expensive (where i live) and.. i prefer to emule them by pc.

The Wii doens't suck. It is a great system. Read my review.----- well... yeah but, as some people go defending teh ps3 or xbox, ur the same with the wii xD, it wouldnt be weird if ur review says more good than bad things from teh wii isnt?

the wii dont suck, is just that, if u want great great games from tird parties, with good graphics etc, xbox n ps3 are better, <-- my own opinion.

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Mini Mario - 263 days 9 hours ago

"How well did Mario and Sonic at the Olympics sell?"

Even tho it has mario in it, i dont think nintendo themselves made the game.

"It's annoying to play with the damn thing and when a game allows it, many people choose to use the classic or Gamecube control."

I use the nunchuck and remote for mario kart wii all the time. Quite easy really...maybe it might be a bit too difficult for u ?

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scissor_runner - 263 days 9 hours ago

“The Wii continues to sell like hotcakes laced with crack despite the common criticism that there are no good "hardcore" games for it.”
Well I wonder what madworld, excite truck, metroid, NMH, Bomerman (two different version) Blast works, Paper Mario, Mario kart, SSBB, conduit, etc and more coming are. Why are you guys lying to your selves… correct what you are saying, you don’t like hardcore games like the ones listed. I mean it is possible you are a different type of hardcore.

“Even after two years with no price drop, selling at a profit, Wiis continue to fly off the shelves faster than they can be produced. I say it’s high-time we analyze the strengths of the system and where it could use some improvement.”

OK, it’s successful and it needs improvements well it’s not high time we do it since the things you like probably is not what everyone else likes. The proof is in the HD console sells if you are wondering.

The author clearly does not understand the Wii actually continues to sell because people try it and love it. The TVs ads are not doing anything to sell the games. If this was the case the PS3 would be sitting right beside the Wii.

“who have had a notoriously hard time developing for Nintendo consoles.” This is not true. Wii development is actually being hurt by large amounts of man power and resources being put on the HD projects. Normal games will sell on the Wii as res evil has sold just fine. Put metal gear on the Wii and watch it sell. Take a GTA and put it on the Wii and if they put effort into the development it will sell.

Before the PS2 sold because of DVD play back then strong development efforts piggybacked on that. The funny thing is the Wii sold because of new gaming experiences and the industry has simply not made a real effort to develop for it yet. The funny thing is this is changing. Take one look at FF:CC and tell me it’s water down. Res evil had more buttons on the GC and it actually played better on the Wii. Wii mote control actually works so well they are remaking old GC games for it.
The author is right gamers don’t prefer graphics over controls yet the gaming media does because it is easy to hype and controls are hard to articulate.
The author keeps asking where the games are and it’s clear he is an internet blogger get on the phone and you will see developers praising the motion+ and trying a lot hard to bring the hardcore experience to the Wii at capcom, namco, HVS, villiaware, Sega, platinum, treasure and maybe even ubisoft.
Then the author ends claiming the Wii does not suck WOW. Seriously things have changed and lots of HD development cycles are now reaching their end. Those teams will split and make about two Wii games at the same cost it would take to make a HD game. On top of that any Wii ware development would be done on a skeleton crew. You may even see demos coming to Wii-ware.

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Mini Mario - 263 days 9 hours ago

"Why this article sucks:
Theres 100 clones of it all over the internet. We get it."

Do u get it>? Can u please tell me cause i really dont get it....

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Smacktard - 263 days 5 hours ago

"The latest Metroid Prime game overhauled its control scheme drastically, allowing you to aim with the Wiimote. Though, when you get right down to it, that could also be achieved with dual analog sticks."

oh god I barfed.

Comparing the IR pointer function of the Wiimote to dual-analog control is like comparing one really good comparison to one really bad comparison. The IR pointer function being the really good comparison, obviously. Other consoles (PCs w/ mice not included) just can't match the precision of the Wii IR pointer.

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scissor_runner - 262 days 10 hours ago

Smacktard is obvious this guy has never played res evil or metroid on the Wii. If you had to use sticks on any of the bosses in metroid no one would past them LOL the game moves that fast! Which is why we all wanted multiplayer on it!

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KionicWarlord222 - 263 days 19 hours ago

i think the hate is more then graphics.

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SlamVanderhuge - 263 days 19 hours ago

Just as many...it would still have a 6 month gap between decent games and Gamecube ports to pad its release schedule

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predator - 263 days 19 hours ago

why is the hate more than graphics?

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drummerx2709 - 263 days 18 hours ago

Even if it did have graphics comparable to PS3 or 360, people would still think it sucks. They might think it sucks less, but they would still think it sucks. The problem with the Wii is more than the last gen graphics, its the lack of good games. And the only thing the Wii is capable of doing is playing games! If it can't do that, then what else is it good for?

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predator - 263 days 18 hours ago

graphics of the 360 and PS3 = more expansive to develop = less sh!ty rubbish games, mind that doesn't mean more better ones just none of this half arsed games the wii has now

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sidar - 263 days 18 hours ago

" And the only thing the Wii is capable of doing is playing games! "
O boy, the "news 4 gamers" makes sense now doesn't it?

" its the lack of good games."
Well if you are getting them they won't make more right?

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yoshiroaka - 263 days 17 hours ago

I dont like playing the wii and yes graphics are a part of it but its mostly the games. There are so few games that like to play coming from the last gen to this one on the wii. Their new types of games appeal to a different kind of crowd but not me.

To me all their games this gen seems like just Simon says. But there are a few good looking ones. But hardly enough to warrant a buy and on top of it those games seem to do very poorly in terms of sales so im not sure if they are even gonna keep coming.

I dunno, the wii just aint for me

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ZuperAmazingCooKie - 263 days 15 hours ago

And it's not just lack of games, it's the huge list of reasons to wait till its cheaper and it gets more games, and to sell it if you actually bought it like I did

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Downtown boogey - 263 days 14 hours ago

is with the graphics beeing bad... Horrific, and the console selling well dispite that. Also the controls are not even close to precision I was promised back in the day! SO, I switched to PS3 :)

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pain777pas - 263 days 14 hours ago

If the WII was on par with graphics and functions as the other systems I think I'd have one by now because Zelda and Mario would look incredible and the immersion in a Metroid game would be up there. But that is not the case presently so whatever...........

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sidar - 263 days 13 hours ago

" Also the controls are not even close to precision I was promised back in the day! "

Making up promises are we?

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CobraKai - 263 days 10 hours ago

It's not just the graphics. I think it's because there is just this deluge of crappy shovelware games on it, and it's the "number one" console. For every "real" game like Mario or Metroid there is about a dozen or so cheapass, crappy minigame compilations. And the worst thing about it is that these games sell. (As I recall Mario and Sonic Olympics was one of the more successful games). And that means that developers will continue to support these games. There are not enough good games on the system to warrant it's number one spot. It doesn't deserve it.

(Now to wait for the fanboys with their list of "Good Games" for the Wii, which is exactly the same as the other nintendo fanboy's list)

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scissor_runner - 263 days 9 hours ago

So it is not a lack of game or graphics it's just a lack of games and graphics you like.

So I ask you what made it ok to buy PS2 games then the graphics where way worst? Would you have bought a metal gear made just for the Wii with graphics better than the PS2?

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Mini Mario - 263 days 9 hours ago

"I wonder how many people would say the Wii sucks if it had graphics like the 360 or PS3 "

Very good point. And u know what>>? they still would complain because they have too much fanboy in them. I think they are happy on the inside that the wii has less powerful hardware.

It gives them ways to bring their console up more. (in their minds at least)

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Mini Mario - 263 days 9 hours ago

"The hate...
is with the graphics beeing bad... Horrific, and the console selling well dispite that."

SUper mario galaxy looks horrific>>? Man that's some serious crap coming out of those fingers your typing with. Do u know what horrific in-game graphics were....FF7, sure the cinematics were cool...but the game itself was horrific! But im sure that's classed as a crap game. Tell me the differences between these consoles:-

Nes - Sega master system, commodore 64
Gameboy - Game gear, Atari Lynx
PSOne - n64
ps2 - Xbox, Gamecube
DS - PSP

Tell me the difference of the consoles to the left, to the consoles opposite on the right.

The consoles on the left (for their generation) had less powerful hardware to the consoles to the right. Yet the consoles to the left OUTSOLD the consoles to the right. (and as a side not the less powerfull sega mega drive initally was outselling the more powerful super nes for quite sometime...and were mostly even thru the whole gen right up until the end)

"The hate...
is with the graphics beeing bad... Horrific, and the console selling well dispite that."

You fail.

"Also the controls are not even close to precision I was promised back in the day! SO, I switched to PS3 :)"

It must be just u (might be a bit hard for u), because the remote/nunchuck is much more accurate than two analog sticks. Play Resident evil 5 then resident evil 4 on the wii

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darkride66 - 263 days 18 hours ago

As much as I appreciate Nintendo trying something new, it just didn't work for me. I bought my Wii at launch and it wasn't the games that necessarily turned me off, it was the controls. I hated playing Zelda and having to waggle my Wiimote to swing the sword. In Mario Galaxy, pointing and blasting stuff with "starbits" just seemed anti-Mario.
When my wife first tried our Wii her initial comment was "I'm not going to have to point this stupid thing at the TV the ENTIRE time, am I?"
Sadly, the answer turned out to be yes. Our Wii sat, unplayed until just before Christmas last year when I sold it to a co-worker who was asking me questions about buying a Wii for him and his wife. He wanted a PS3 but he wanted to get his wife into gaming and he felt that this just wouldn't happen with the PS3. It wasn't as accessible to new gamers as the Wii.

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yoshiroaka - 263 days 17 hours ago

yea exactly

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SaiyanFury - 263 days 15 hours ago

Agreed with darkride. I have only a single Wii game, Tenchu: Shadow Assassins. As a longtime Tenchu fan I was put off by the inaccuracy and lack of precision with the Wiimote. It was just off. I would sneak up behind an enemy, then use the Wiimote in the appropriate fashion as needed by the controls and it only worked half the time. Unfortunately, after the times it didn't work, I would be discovered by the enemy. I got the PSP version and all of a sudden the control problems were fixed. No half-baked, unresponsive controls, just simple effective ones. I may get several dozen disagrees here, but those won't erase my negative experiences on the system.

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Smacktard - 263 days 5 hours ago

@SaiyanFury:

So you're basing your control criticisms on the one game you played? That's not very fair at all. In this case, you can likely blame the game, and not the console. The Wii's controls surely are not as accurate as one would wish for, but (it seems to me that) you bought a Wii for Tenchu? LOL.

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SaiyanFury - 262 days 13 hours ago

@Smacktard

No I did not buy a Wii for Tenchu, my wife bought a Wii shortly after it was released and hence I bought Tenchu for it seeing as I'm a longtime fan of the series. And I have played several other games on the system, I just don't like the Wiimote. I would never buy a system for a single game, that is a waste of money.

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Seferoth75 - 263 days 17 hours ago

LOL Sony beat them by 3k last week... Not exactly going to close the 5 million console lead Wii has on them over there any time soon at that poor of a lead.

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kesvalk - 263 days 8 hours ago

a gamecube with sticks huh? clearly you never thouched one...

do this, get a picture of metroid prime 1, then you get a picture of metroid prime 3... put then side by side... then you you PM me and say if it realy is a game cube...

damn, just compare the graphs of ssb melee and brawl...

you guys are the one with sequels of consoles... (what do you think the 3 after the playstation means? remember you guys have the same contoller since PSone, same with xbox.)

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CobraKai - 263 days 8 hours ago

The Gamecube was more of a game system than the Wii could ever hope to be

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sidar - 263 days 18 hours ago

"and after smash brothers comes out, nothing else will be left, and its 2009 and wii is definately goin down this year, count on it"

Ok, so mister has an awesome crystal ball.
Tell me what do you think will happen IF M+ comes out?
With wii-sports resort =D XD?

" boy and all the trash people were talking about ps3 in 2006 and 2007,"
C;mon now, those were just uber trolls.

Even if its sinking, Nintendo just puts out a new color, and if that doesn't help they bring out a Wii with a camera......XD

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KionicWarlord222 - 263 days 17 hours ago

You sir have offend gears!

we must fight to the death!

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Spike47 - 263 days 16 hours ago

How is it proven that the least played console is the PS3? GTA4 sold about the same on both the xbox360 and the PS3, the PS3 is outselling the xbox360 worldwide, RE5 has probably sold the most on the PS3.

Killzone 2 lacked marketing, thats all, the game itself is fantastic.

How much did Madworld sell? 66,000?

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