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Xbox360 will beat PS3 this generation but how will It happen? HipHopGamerShow 10/5/08

* 360 Gets FF13 in Japan?
* Sony will own TGS'08
* PS1 on the Wii
* Lego Batman Review
* Special Guests - EA Sports
* Much More Enjoy The Show
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Published: 459 days 2 hours ago | Video | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Wii | Gaming | Industry News
 
 

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crillyconlig - 459 days 2 hours ago
1 - what rubbish
very poor
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hiphopgamer - 459 days 2 hours ago
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Very Poor why? give me a reason instead of just a meaningless statement so i can better understand where you coming from and why the show is poor
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McErono - 459 days 1 hour ago
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title is wrong. hiphopgamers says "can beat" n4g says "will beat" big difference, should be corrected.
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Marceles - 459 days 1 hour ago
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lol...why did you change the title from "Xbox 360 Can Beat" on your site to "Xbox WILL beat" on N4G? Wanted to hit the fanboy beehive just a little harder? lol

edit: good, I'm not the only one who noticed
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Peter Griffin - 459 days 1 hour ago
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lol @ fanboy beehive
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TheTwelve - 459 days 1 hour ago
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It's wrong to put up a misleading title like this. Please don't allow this site to go to trash like this. If N4G wants to be respected as a news site, then do quality journalism.

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Edit: Oh hiphopgamer put up the news and did the video? Then at least make the two titles the same brah.
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kenjix - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.6 - gotta be honest
I used to support the show because I didn't think they would change topics or word them just to get hits. Oh well.
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Port_Station3 - 459 days 1 hour ago
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what is very poor is the fact that Sony is totally messing up this Gen with the PS3...and it all started with the PS3 being the trojan horse for Blu-Ray...they then needed the cell and the crappy archetetutre the games have to be built around....but damn what a great Blu-Ray Player.
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FaSeCeX - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.8 - haha fanboy beehive
thats funny...the site has lost (to me) its credentials, or however u want to put it, of being "news 4 gamers"..should be renamed to n4f...news 4 fanboys..the change of wording pointed out by previous posters show that..not to mention the so many blogs that often come to be the hot stories
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juuken - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.9 - Port_Station
What's sad is that you have to make up an account just for the sake of attacking the PS3.

Very nice.
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SWORDF1SH - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.10 - we should give hiphopgamer a bit more respect
im gonna stick up for hiphopgamer here. he shouldnt of changed the title but in his show he does say he's pretty sure the 360 will win this generation. as i prefer the ps3 i still respect what he says because he backs it up with good points. we should support hiphopgamer coz he tells it how it is. he stated a few times he thinks the ps3 system is better but still always gives unbiased news on all consoles and handhelds. hiphopgamer should have a little more respect from us
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TheTwelve - 459 days 1 hour ago
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He has the right to express whatever opinion he wants and back it up...props...I disagree with his opinion as he's being too nearsighted but props anyway.

The problem is that if he changes the title of his video it just smacks of fanboy bait and profit from it. No props for that.

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FantasyStar - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.12 - I noticed it too.
The change of the title, what gives dude? It didn't affect me while watching it, but the change of words does spook me a bit. Don't lose integrity yo.
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CrazzyMan - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.13 - ok name 1 reason, why PS3 will be owned after these games are released:
1) infamous
2) wardevil
3) gow3
4) heavy rain
5) ico3
6) ffxiii(japan)
7) kz2
8) uncharted 2
9) ninja theory game
10) mag
11) wkc
12) and maybe even GT5 will come in 2009
13) every year game from insomniacs
14) Yakuza 3
15) Tekken 6
16) eyepet

Most of these games will come in 2009.

p.s
+ rumored
17) Hardware 2
18) Tears of Blood
19) Twisted Metal
20) Turrican from factor 5

+ 11 games anounced on TGS08.

AND of`course LBP, R2, M:PR will help a lot.

PS3 not even at 299$ price yet, neither slim version has been released yet.
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mikeslemonade - 459 days 1 hour ago
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The xbox 360 lead has been cut in half from 10 million to 5 million in less than two years. And more importantly the PS3 has been more expensive by $200 most of the time. When this generation is older the 360 will longer be able to drop more than $50 increments to stay competitive. Whereas when PS3 drops price they can drop $100. We already see succcess every time there is a new PS3 sku and they don't even need to drop price. Blu-ray hasn't reached potential, more than half of the top antcipated exclusives haven't even come out yet for PS3, and the price is still atleast $100 away from where most people can even afford a PS3. Also the competiton has nothing much to offer other than price and multiplatform games. And eventually PS3 will get there. I don't see how it's possible for PS3 to not be 2nd place this generation and Wii is dropping out at 2011 so Nintendo won this generation. In 2009 PS3 will surpass 360's install base. When PS3 drops price in 2009 the 360 will not drop there price considering it's already lower than the Wii which isn't even a HD.
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Sitdown - 459 days 1 hour ago
1.15 - @crazzyman
I would say first give release dates for all those games...and then we will talk. Lets not name arbitrary titles that could or could not even make it out this generation....or come to this generation when it matters most. Then lets consider that until you play the game....all you are doing is hoping they will be good off of previous track record of the company and titles before them....but the reality is, sometimes developers can just miss the boat on sequels. I am not siding with either side, but...gaming is the present, and right now those games are not presently in our homes....and America is filled with individuals who survive on instant gratification, or as I like to say, "fast food mentality".
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sonarus - 459 days 1 hour ago
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I just got a 360 myself. My PS3 died. I am enjoying my 360 played all the demos i want to play beat halo and now i miss wipeout and burnout:(

Going to miss LBP beta and socom beta now:(.

I need to buy more 360 games to sustain myself until i get my PS3 back. Sony just needs to drop price and i think they will be fine. But going into the holiday season 360 has all the momentum but sony is trying to be profitable not trying to win.

Microsoft is closing studios when they should be expanding to get more developers on their side.
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mikeslemonade - 459 days ago
1.17 - @hiphop
Gears and Halo "were" system sellers. Gears 2 will not sell as many systems as Gears 1 does because the people that were interested already bought the 360 when Gears 1 came out. When Gears and Halo iterations hit the Xbox 720 they will once again be system sellers. Gears and Halo caters to the hardcore audience and the hardcore audience has already bought the 360. What does releasing a Gears 3 or a Halo 4 do? It caters to the xbox 360 owner.

PS3 actually has the advantage because they release different games like Insomniac release a platformer and a FSP, and Naughty Dog release a platformer and a Action Adventer Game. Media molecule releases a totally new game about mods and customization. PS3 has the system sellers like Metal Gear and Gran Turismo, and they also expand with new franchises that attact a new audience. And this is the formula that makes a system sell 100 million consoles. There's only one company in the Game Industry that has sold over 100 million and that is Sony which they have done twice. They know what they are doing. They may not sell 100 million but they will sell atleast 60 million this generation which is more than enough to defeat 360.
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SL1M DADDY - 459 days ago
1.18 - What is this?
I thought HipHop would stay away from the Nostradamus fortune telling crap and just keep his sights on the here and now. Look, we don't have a clue as to what Sony has up their sleeves and to make the call as to who will win the console war this gen, this early in the game... That is just plain silly. Sorry bro but it seems a bit like a hit check for your site and not true journalism.
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Coheno - 459 days ago
1.19 - Fashizzle!
Wow! My IQ just dropped by 10 points!

What a crappy show....
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shovelbum - 459 days ago
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I could care less on the so-called winner of this war. I just want both to continue pushing the other into producing great games and console features to make those games more enjoyable. I buy what I like to play and in this case, I own all three big consoles (well 2 big and 1 strangely huge one) as do many of you. The only brand that I purchase to a fault is DODGE. Hemi Ram and Hemi Challenger and a $600/mo. gas budget. lol. Anyway, the only real winners are us gamers.
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IDemonstalkerXI - 459 days ago
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He has valid points, In summary he says he believes PS3 to be the best quality console.

Though due to 360 launching first, Having a lower price point, and Halo hype marketing (i.e. Game fuel Mt. dew type ish etc.) for 360 games The 360 could beat PS3 this generation. Anythings possible. Yet I think 360 has had a Boon lately due to its latest price drop so at this point and time pointing out such a possibility is obvious. Anything can happen between now and whenever this generation ends.

My question is... What marks the end of a generation... because we are seeing this day generations overlap. PS2 still sells to this day. Wii is Next GEN by launch date but Last Gen Tech wise. Where is the finish line?

If Someone launches a Next Gen system in 2010 is that when this Generation is going to be called ? Is that when you tally up sales and claim victory? Or do you wait till every console of the current generation is no longer supported and tally? There could be a different winner in each scenario. What console is going to be supported and still bought and sold in 2013 @ Retail? What console is going to have the largest library by generations end , with the Gems/Rare games that are selling on ebay for $500 factory sealed?

Sony's consoles have a history of going on and on like the energizer bunny is all I know and they bring quality , and durability. Scratch resistant coated discs. UMD's which are also very durable. Hardware that the only time it broke on me was when I had a storm and a power surge and I did not have my ps2 plugged in through a surge protector. As far as exclusives they got the most first party studio's churning out those. This is why im Bias to PS3. I want a console that advances technology, Is region-free mostly, Ushers a new higher capacity media format, Has the game library thats diverse and full of quality hits, and is Free2Play online and Durable.

The competition is fierce though in there ways, ultimately the products are inferiror though and often the highly sought after goods are not the one that is sold the most. So anythings possible.

If you don't believe that..explain this ->...In terms of Hardware N64 was superior to PS1 and lost saleswise , Xbox was superior to PS2 and lost saleswise.
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SuperM - 458 days 23 hours ago
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Yo Hiphopgamer. I like your show although i disagree with you that 360 is going to win this generation. Simply because the next time ps3 cut the price its going to sell better across the board again. Keep in mind that ps3 has outsold 360 in 2007 and so far in 2008. Now the 360 cut price and will probably sell better for a while, but when ps3 is cutting price im pretty sure it will go back to ps3 selling better.

Besides if sony actually suport their console for 10 years then its definately gonna outsell the 360 somewhere down the line.

Anyway ps3 has shortened the gap between them and the 360 and i see no reason why it wont keep doing that when they cut price. Especially now that the ps3 is finally getting their stuff together. More or less all games are released on ps3 now, they all look more or less identical to the 360 version unlike how they did at the start of the generation. More and more games are starting with ps3 as lead platform, and sony is starting to release some kickass games.

And lets not forget that ps3 plays bluray which is gonna mean alot. When ps3 hits 299 which i expect it will next year thats gonna be a great deal when you concider its both a gaming machine and a bluray player. If you are into both movies and games then thats the definitive choice. I mean people who own hd tvs are probably going to want bluray at some point so they can watch HD movies and such, ps3 is the obvious choice. If someone who owns an xbox wants a blu ray player then if he is smart he will buy a ps3. If someone who owns neither and want a bluray player and a video game console he buys the ps3. In my opinion even though its the most expensive console, ps3 is still the greater value.
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IDemonstalkerXI - 458 days 23 hours ago
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I forgot .....My first PS2 was thrown off a balcony 3 times by my ex. It still worked untill that last time she made sure it landed on concrete, first 2 times it landed on grass and dirt and still worked. A console that breaks on me 2 times just sitting on a shelf taking second in sales is not a big victory IMO. IF... that where to take place. In the larger picture as well that console's install base is competing against Ninty which has a wii and a DS on the market and Sony which has a PS2 , PSP, and PS3 on the market. So 360 needs to sell very well to have an equal share in the market. I like MS competition though I hate there buisness model that nickels and dimes folk.
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ape007 - 458 days 22 hours ago
1.24 - yes
marketing is one important thing,even more important than we think

I want sony to focus on their games like ms is doing

if ms has mgs 4,r&c:tod,uncharted,don't call me fanboy I love both systems(love ps3 more),but it will sell much more with ms,you'll see ads even in your grandma's pants,am 100% sure,marketing,marketing sony,wtf I can't believe they're SO quite on ms2,sony just behaves like it's a 5 out of 10 game,f@#$ even viva piniata has more marketing and ads than ms2 or even r&c

if mgs4 and uncharted were on 360

mgs4 will sell like 9 million
uncharted gonna sell like 8 million

sony fans,I know that you look carefully at everything sony says but imagine the WHOLE public,I know it's hard to imagine but ms had marketing right

I swear if gears or halo3 were ps3 exclusive,it will not pass 1.5 million

I hope sony get that,yes sony it's THAT important,we want more ads for KILLZONE 2,MS2,LBP,GOW3(just imagine if ms has this)

damn it,do that sony or you'll lose the console war.
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CrazzyMan - 458 days 21 hours ago
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@Sitdown,
wich one game won`t deliver?
is it GT5? or FFXIII? or maybe GoW3? I suppose Uncharted 2 or Ico 3? Nah, probably LBP, R2, M:PR. Oh, i got it, KZ2! Yeah, sure.
These sequels will be GREAT games, because developement of these games are in right hands.

And come on, these games DEFINITELY will come till the end of 2010 or THIS GEN. So don`t worry, not to mention games like FFXIIIv which also will come some time later.
And America, huh, Japan + Europe >>> America in terms of sales.

@ape007, you a bit wrong, you know why halo and geow sell a lot on xbox consoles? Because on their console they have very FEW really GREAT EXCLUSIVE games, while PS consoles always have VASTE variety of GREAT EXCLUSIVE games.

This year, geow 2 will sell a lot, Because in terms of GREAT exclusives x360 don`t have NOTHING BIG. Fable 2 will barely sell 1 mln. by the end of the year(just look to ME sales last year), same will go for a Banjoo.
While PS3 has LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift.

After almost 3(!) years, how many x360 exclusives/timed exclusives have passed 3 mln. mark?
Gears, Halo 3 and well.. you could add Forza 2 and soon Gears 2.

Now, PS3 in 2 years: Resistance, Motorstorm, MGS4, and now you can easy add LBP, R2, about M:PR not sure, however, GT5P already did over 2 mln. at retailers, and who knows how many through downloads.
And next year PS3 will have even more over 3 mln. EXLUSIVE sellers, starting from KZ2.
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CrazyMystical - 458 days 21 hours ago
1.26 - HipHopGamer
really does anyone really take this moron seriously?

hey i love Hip Hop but for some reason i despite you.
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crillyconlig - 458 days 21 hours ago
1.27 - whoops
i was refering to the error in the title, should of said
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Sitdown - 458 days 20 hours ago
1.28 - @crazzyman
Again I say...list specific dates for these games. Does Home ring a bell?...what was the original release date on that? Did Metal Gear Solid 4 deliver like everybody thought it would? As an owner of the ps3 I want it to be successful, but I am more interested in what is going on right now. I hate to bring up Halo 3, but is any of those games that you listed able to stir the walls of gaming like it did?....if not, then we are free to question their impact. For instance, Ico was a great game....but does not nearly have enough of a following that it deserves. Will people run to GT5 when they have prologued? I played LBP...and everybody will not be impressed. I could go on and on about how these games cater to a certain group...and at the current ps3 price, people might not be willing to jump on them before the next generation rolls in. I think some time we assume that everybody has the same love of video games as those posting on sites such as these.......when some people just own next generation games for Madden and not really interested in anything more. Again I am not saying that it will or will not....I am just raising legit questions concerning your assumption/statement.
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CrazzyMan - 458 days 19 hours ago
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@Sitdown,
These games ALREADY 2-3 years in developement.
They will DEFINITELY come in 2009-2010. What the problem with you???
And 2010 is the worst case.

"Did Metal Gear Solid 4 deliver like everybody thought it would?"
YES, it DID.
Almost Every MGS Fan was satisfied with MGS4, while MOST Halo and GTA fans didn`t like how sequels turned to be.
And for MANY people MGS4 is the BEST game this gen so far.

"Will people run to GT5 when they have prologued?"
OF`COURSE! GT5 will be the BEST racing game this GEN, That is WHY GT5 is taking so much time to develop.

LBP will be just Next BIG thing, just like Nintendogs with 20 mln. sales on DS.

"and at the current ps3 price, people might not be willing to jump on them before the next generation rolls in."
Guess what, people are not running for x360 even after it reached 199-299$ price, it doesn`t sell like Wii. But when PS3 will get 299$ price, 199$ price, EVERYONE will buy PS3, for those games, that i listed above. PS3 will be just a MUST BUY for that price. And don`t forget 125 mln. PS2 userbase, that are just waiting for 199$-249$ price to jump in. Playstation BRAND with right price will do WONDERS.

And just some examples, how exclusive games are important.
In march x360 had a pricecut in Europe and PS3 only GT5P release, yet, PS3 outsold x360.
In june just MGS4 release in all regions helped to oustsell x360 almost by 2 times.
Why i name these games? Well, these ones are just FEW among GREAT titles which will come to PS3.
Because MGS4, LBP, KZ2, FFXII, GT5 were postponed, that was the only reason why it was delayed PS3 DOMINATION. After these games will be released, NOTHING will stop PS3.
Which console has 125 mln. userbase behind? And PS3 is starting fully DELIVER begining this fall.
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Sheikh Yerbouti - 458 days 18 hours ago
1.30 - Quality of the Show is Good. Enough
S'up HHG.

I like the show. Always entertaining, especially for a hip-hop head. But I do wish your part was more rehearsed, but I doubt many individuals could do a podcast of better quality. The fact that G4 actually mentioned ya name validates this.

Add some more gameplay footage, better video editing, and I'd say it is one of the better podcasts for gaming. Still, even if you have a budget like 1UP Show, some clowns will hate on ya calling ya rubbish. Because it is hip-hop oriented.

Keep doing what you do, and I'll keep watching.
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Thugbot187 - 458 days 14 hours ago
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HipHopGamer don't worry about the fanboys that hate on you. Your the one out there taking what is a dream from many people and out there doing it. Keep it up and don't let them get you down. -Real Talk
KEEP IT MOVING and KEEP DOING IT TO THEM
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fufotrufo - 458 days 14 hours ago
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@ the ignorant saying fable 2 will barely sell one million

Best laugh i had on all day!

it shows how little you know about games ...
and how far off you are from reality
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joeymoey - 458 days 13 hours ago
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I can't believe the internet. People so hungry for their 15 minutes that they put any trash up, and people actually buy into it like sheep. Look at what happened to Kimbo slice. The internet made him a Juggernaut, and all it took was a sub par trained fighter 14 seconds to knock him back down to reality.

All this is a bunch of sensationalizing, and speculation for hits mind you, and from news already out. On-top of that I could barely understand what he was trying to say. Very unprofessional.

In fact I'm going to stop coming to n4g altogether if this is the trash I can expect to be posted.
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RemmM - 458 days 13 hours ago
1.34 - Wtf do Hip hop gamers know about video games? What do rappers know about video games?
You just can't mix it...all of the sudden they try to be nerdy lol. Stick to rapping man. (Although rap is dying) As for 360 beating PS3 this generation? That is EXTREME ignorance..NOONE knows what will happen. What if I said PS3 WILL put X Box 360 to shame I guarentee it? Does'nt that sound ignorant? Until there is a clear winner, I advise you to stfu. Even IF Microsoft's 360 wins, they are STILL noobies.
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NowGen - 458 days 6 hours ago
1.35 - fake azz flip floper
nice way to flipflop from last week.1st its the ps3 with all the momentum,now its the 360 with the victory.like i said last time,i question your journalistic cred.please tell me what happened between last week and this week that made you flip like this.if your going to ever be taken serious your gonna have to develope your vocab and speech delivery. outside of your small following your not going to reach mainstream.and thats a shame. you may need to drop a few of them, you no what i mean.no what im saying,that joint is gonna be fire.not everyone from the innercity speek like that.evolve your style and elevate your audience
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SwiffEpics - 459 days 2 hours ago
2 - this show is great
i look forward to this every week
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hiphopgamer - 459 days 1 hour ago
2.1 -
THE TITLE HAS BEEN CORRECTED SORRY ABOUT THAT MY MISTAKE HONESTLY I DIDN"T PAY ATTENTION PROPERLY
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TheTwelve - 459 days 1 hour ago
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Good for you. You're wrong, but good for you. :)

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IDemonstalkerXI - 458 days 22 hours ago
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Good show so far ...not done watching yet. The bouncer PS3 hopefully that is true would be a killer title IMO.
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gunnerheadboy - 458 days 22 hours ago
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HHG, weren't you a PS3 fan? Why turn your back on it all of the sudden. I know the 360 is doing real good and it has a few awesome games coming out for it but the PS3 still has LBP, R2, KZ2 and Socom plus the 160GB PS3. So I don't think you can judge right now. But good show, keep up the work.
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Omega4 - 459 days 2 hours ago
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A negative PS3 story getting approved, pigs must be flying

Yep the 360 will likely beat the PS3 this gen but if it doesnt the gap will be very small

Next gen is when the real battle will start because all 3 will have a huge installbase to convert to the next gen
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bluecapone - 459 days 2 hours ago
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the real battle starts this current day who knows when that so called next gen will start
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masterofpwnage - 459 days 1 hour ago
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bro ps3 is already in the nxtgen side, is the devs that need to be nxt gen and help each other with that hard ass ps3 developing, dont kno about the 360. fuk if they fix the hardware problems then yeah its nxt gen.

edit

yeah i do have a 360 rrod me 3 times.

but i currently let my friend borrow it, untill fabil 2 comes out

but i talking about the exclusive. tell me one game that outperform uncharted or killzone or metalgearsolid4 or resistance or something new like lbp. and dont even say gears 2 because it cearly doesnt. u must be blind to find it better.

seriously its all the multiplatform people that has problems with ps3

and if u read my comment u dumb bichass 360 fanboy. u can see i already said that it was the multi devs that having problem, but its slowly changing.

and i said the only problem with the 360 is the rrod.

and how can u say its better in all departments wen its clearly not.

even 360 fanboy says that the online and the games is soon to be better then the 360
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TeeJay - 459 days 1 hour ago
3.3 - lol @ masterofpwnage
360 outperforms the PS3 in every aspect related to gaming, and you think the PS3 is "next-gen" and the 360 isn't? I bet where you come from up means down and right means left. Go buy a 360 and stfu already.
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Lucreto - 459 days 1 hour ago
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360 might win still too hard to tell. MS is all Captain Ahab about it.

The first sign I will see the 360 winning would be getting artistic games like ICO or Okami.

@TeeJay Please enlighten me on your reason.
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Ice2ms - 459 days 2 hours ago
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HipHop man I like you and everything I think your a pretty nice/cool/funny whatever guy. BUT this isn't your finest hour I think you need to revamp the show a little like its a brilliant show I wish I could be doing what you are ;)
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hiphopgamer - 459 days 1 hour ago
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Revamp the show like how? please explain what ideas you may have and who knows i might use if it's something i can pull off right now but in my position i'm doing the best i can and so far it's working so thanks for the tip and if you got any ideas run them by me dog aight peace
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Coheno - 459 days ago
4.2 - @hiphopgamer
Seriously, if you want to learn something, like for an example, how to make a good show...then watch this!

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

The 1up Show! Best gaming show out there!
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IDemonstalkerXI - 458 days 21 hours ago
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The show is good and raw Im impressed with your work thus far. If you were to add a couple heads, co-hosts one female at least I think it would add some positive dimensions.

So you could have a couple partners covering things whilst you hold down the show from the studio or another location or just be in the same location conversating on the topics at hand. Regular faces for viewers to get accustomed to along with your own and then bring guests to the studio as well.

Do your thang man F__ what there looking @. - Ice Cube.
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