Is Xbox 360 losing ground?

LeSouteneur - 526 days 17 hours ago

Is the brand name. Outside of the US, hell, even in the US, Microsoft is a hated company due to their past history of monopolistic and unfair practices, lists of hostile acquisitions, causing tons of lost jobs due to their motto of: "Emprace, Extend, Extinguish." George Bush supports their monopolistic practises though.

Here's a breakdown of the numbers. Xbox 360 has sold 10 million in the US, 19 million worldwide. According to them. Compared to the PS2 selling 40 million in the US, and 130 million worldwide. There is a lot more potential outside of the United States, just that they know not to support their monopoly.

And sorry for the long rant, but it's the truth. You guys just have to face it that unless MS gives away something for free (i.e. Internet Explorer), customers know not to buy MS products when there are better alternatives.

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Drekken - 526 days 17 hours ago

LaChance... I hear of a lot of people smoking crystal meth too. Doesnt mean its right or the smart thing to do.

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shazam - 526 days 17 hours ago

The Microsoft XBOX 360 is losing ground to the Sony PLAYSTATION 3 despite the one year, 10 million console head start.

The XBOX 360 will come in third place this generation like it's predecessor, the XBOX 0, in the last generation.

It is undeniable. It is inevitable.

If you think otherwise you are delusional.

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StayHigh - 526 days 16 hours ago

At the moment it looks the PS3 will continue to outsell the 360 through out this year due to big exclusive games..I think even 2009 will be even bigger year for Sony..All they have to do is another price drop and their set to take 2nd place..

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jmare - 526 days 16 hours ago

People compare the Wii to the 360 because the 360 came out a year earlier so all things being equal, the 360 should never have fallen behind due to sheer numerical advantage. The simple fact that the Wii has passed the 360 is important because it illustrates how far off MS is on their market targeting. Even though I still think the Wii is a fluke, the fact that ther are more in homes than there are 360s is a huge deal. And no one is mentioning the PS3 because right now the PS3 is in third but making progress.

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xhairs9 - 526 days 16 hours ago

Why is it that since the PS3 has dwindled down the 10M console gap to < 5M, Microsoft has all of a sudden been trying to buy all their exclusives? Is it due to the fact that Microsoft's only cop-out is to make every game available for both consoles in order to keep their lead for as long as possible?

I hope Microsoft can do that for another 8 years when this so called Console War ends.

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Sayai jin - 526 days 16 hours ago

What is the purpose of these articles. Really. Anytime I see sales figures and other numbers along those lines I wonder why people care. I could understand if people who make a big deal about sales owned stock/shares in these companies, but... I felt the same way when they were refer to any of these companies. If the 360, PS3, or Wii comes in third place, what does it mean, well less sales, but the market has grown so much that 3rd place will not be like it was less gen or the one before. 3rd place is possible for any of these 3 conpanies (no matter what your favorite is), but 3rd place could mean that your console has 32% of the market while the other two have around 33 to 34%. Nt much of a difference, but what des that really mean for any for gamers, nothing. These companies will continue to have great games this gen and all three will launch another console next gen. So what how does it affect you?

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thebudgetgamer - 526 days 12 hours ago

its not about sony its about wii vs 360

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mfwahwah - 526 days 3 hours ago

I disagree, but I'll wait until you bring some numbers first, seeing as you started this with that post.

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titntin - 526 days 16 hours ago

Give it up La chance...
The article is plainly about the 360 in comparison to the Wii.

Moan about VGchatz all you want, history shows their data is broadly accurate and this is a good tool:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunc...

Pretty clear to see wii storming ahead, but it actually looks like PS3 is selling better than 360 did at the same point in its cycle. admittidly this is worldwide figures, but hey, its a world wide buisness.

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dude_uk - 526 days 16 hours ago

and so the M$ defense force comes to save the day

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silverchode - 526 days 16 hours ago

you do know that the ps3 was selling at 600$ right. of course its going to sell less.

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BulletToothtony - 526 days 15 hours ago

the harsh truth about a 14 year old who is simply unwilling to accept the facts...

Watch how it evolves in a forum near you!!

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jmare - 526 days 14 hours ago

Maybe you needs some more schooling, but I didn't spin anything. Reading is hard, I know. I simply responded to your diatribe about the 360 being god's gift to the world. You are the one who brought up the PS3 in an article that doesn't mention it at all. I say MS is off on their market targeting because of the way they are now copying the Wii and the PS3 to try to broaden their market share. That sounds like to me that MS thinks they made a mistake. It's okay. 360 really is the best, I swears.

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dude_uk - 526 days 13 hours ago

wow dude...
you got a real bad rep here...
I almost feel sorry for you

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Bathyj - 526 days 3 hours ago

Nice Graph TinTin. But this one is even more interesting. Doesn't seem like PS3 is in any trouble at all to me.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunc...

And dont get too mad a La Chance. He hasn't been the same since his Dad burn off his ear on the stove.

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xhairs9 - 526 days 16 hours ago

I think it's sad when people say the Wii isn't next-gen. I don't see why not? It was created in the same time period therefor it battles against the "next-gen" machines. And the funny part is Microsoft said this in order to "keep their lead" against the PS3. I find it even worse that they said that, and they're getting demolished by it. I'd have just let people think it was next-gen so I didn't seem like my console was ass. Man I'm tired..

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00 - 526 days 16 hours ago

Because it's a gamecube with motion control.

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Master of Menace - 526 days 16 hours ago

The quality is lacking on the Wii. Just compare games like Top Spin 3. The graphics on the Wii are terrible. Then there is the inaccuracy with the controller, no Wii is not next gen, wake up! I just bought Kung Fu Panda for the kids on PS3, because I wanted the game to look more like the movie, and it does, fantastic. On the Wii it looks crap,and yet they are asking the same price. Wii is a ripoff!

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xhairs9 - 526 days 13 hours ago

So next-gen is only relevant to graphics then? Because apparently motion control isn't next gen? That's what I don't understand, if it's graphics that everyone is calling next-gen then by all means the Wii isn't next-gen. However motion controls were not used prior to the Wii (with the exception of a few that got discarded after use here and there), therefor the Wii is next-gen. It's like creating virtual reality and saying it's not next-gen because the graphics aren't as realistic.

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r2kcipher - 526 days 15 hours ago

u must be new to the video game industry. every time sony releases a console everyone hates on it. that's the law of the world. so lets stop caring about the past and realize sonys been whipping arse since the start of 08. and the 360 has always been cheaper so its amazing how its only 5mil ahead of the ps3. lol. that's pathetic.

and nobody cares about the wii. its a toy and should be compared sales wise with tickle me elmo.

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Ceekay - 526 days 16 hours ago

Of course, they are different product and price categories.

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Topshelfcheese - 526 days 16 hours ago

You make a good point, however there's so many different factors, as both Sony and Nintendo have more 1st party studios, and they make far more profit selling there 1st party games.

But, yes Microsoft is selling more software, but that gap is closing.

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Drekken - 526 days 16 hours ago

Yeah lets talk about profitability.... How about that huge repair bill MS has to foot for each broken 360. 1 out of 3 sold right?

I have watch Sony come from behind in hardware and software sales. MS's days are numbered and thank god. Maybe we can get some reliability back into gaming. Sony and NIN do a great job making reliable products.

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Master of Menace - 526 days 16 hours ago

Are you trying to tell us Microsoft is making money from the 360! That is never going to happen, sorry! If profits are an indicator of success, XBOX 360 is not it!

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ThanatosDMC - 526 days 14 hours ago

Also, what about M$ buying out exclusivity of games? Or $50 million of DLC?

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Mausenheimmer - 526 days 12 hours ago

360 turning a profit: http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

PS3 not turning a profit: http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

So to answer your questions, the PS3, despite its praise from internet fans, has not yet turned in a profit. The Wii and 360 have. With some more digging around I could come up with some more precise numbers if you would like.

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gumgum99 - 526 days 16 hours ago

I'll have to disagree with you on the Zune part. Its perhaps the greatest thing MS has ever made. Ever

other than that, you're right on cue.

one more nail in the coffin, and they could be done for

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Monty_The_Great - 526 days 15 hours ago

yes, vista is doing so aweful that they have only sold 180 million licenses of it. If that is doing bad, then I want to be doing bad at business like that. As far as there "web service" being bad, i am going to assume you mean live, and well, ask the millions of people that have paid the $50 for it and see if they don't think its good. As for the Zune, well, really what can compete with the iPod? Its like saying that Apple is starting to make a dent in PC dominance of the market. Yes they are gaining, but PC are still over 90% of the market.

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Ceekay - 526 days 15 hours ago

The Zune might be a decent product, but I wouldn't call 3% US market share a success. Outside the US it wasn't even released.

As for Vista, it definitely does worse than Microsoft expected, many users are running back to XP or alternative OS. Alternatives never were more popular than nowadays, so Microsoft should be worried.

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superaktieboy - 525 days 19 hours ago

exactly what 12.1 said!, the Zune is sooo awesome, that its a blatant rip-off of the iPod.. pretty much like everything else
meh they didn't even 'innovate' windows, microsoft is the new term for rip-off.. an example of using the new term is: Microsoft microsofted the avatar system, lips, and everything else!!

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MAiKU - 526 days 17 hours ago

How the hell is a port of a PlayStation exclusive going to make your system better? how? just how? is it the resent of all those who hate your system, is that going to make it better? Or is it the fact that if it does happen and you'll get to sass about your 360 getting this game expanding over 2 or more discs??? Yeah... that makes it waaay better.

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Drekken - 526 days 17 hours ago

In a 10 pack of discs. You 360 fans want it so bad... Buy a PS3.

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juuken - 526 days 17 hours ago

MGS4 cannot be done on the 360. Kojima said that he would do a game on the 360 but NOT port MGS4.

What the f*ck is wrong with you 360 fanboys? You don't read, you don't comprehend, you can't even see that the 360 is in fact starting to lose ground. Nintendo just surpassed them in sales. The PS3 is proving that it's more than a bluray player AND it's outselling the 360 as well. Microsoft cannot expect to have some kind of lead when their nearest competitors just kicked their asses.

Wake up and smell the coffee beans Nancy boys.

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Thoas - 526 days 16 hours ago

Here you go. Good luck!

http://i289.photobucket.com...

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Pain - 526 days 15 hours ago

but Reality say other.

Theres more to the World Outside of America...like Canada im Bigger by Miles..

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juuken - 526 days 16 hours ago

"I cant believe you havnt learnt your lesson."

I can't believe you don't know how to spell simple words. :o

"How many PS3 exclusives have to come to 360 for you to understand that a 3rd partys devs word doesnt mean anything.Konami can choose to go where the money is if they want too."

How many 360 exclusives came on the PS3? You are a f*cking moron. There were plenty of interviews with Kojima already. Kojima and his team are the ones who worked extremely hard on MGS4. If Konami were to port MGS4, it would take a sh*tload of work and it would take forever to get it over on the 360. And I don't think Sony will take kindly for it going to the 360 because of that fact. They may have let a couple of exclusives go but this one is staying.

Get over it.

"I mean FF wasnt enough for you ?"

Uh...it's being worked on first on the PS3 so it's not really a big deal anymore. You guys get a port while we get the original version. :)

"Just in case you forgot FINAL FANTASY , FORMER PS EXCLUSIVE , and of course THAT WASNT POSSIBLE ON 360 BECAUSE OF CELL AND SQUARE LOYALTY IS NOW ON THE 360."

....SQUARE HAS NO LOYALTY WITH ANYONE YOU JACKASS.

Square just screwed Microsoft because the game isn't even coming out on the 360 in Japan! It's only coming out in North America and Europe! Japan is the BIGGEST marketplace for Final Fantasy games! Square just sent a big fat 'f*ck you' to the 360 owners in Japan!

"That said if MSG4 never comes too 360 then too bad.Geez."

Too bad indeed because it's not coming. Go cry some more.

What, can't handle the truth LaChance? You had to disagree with me?

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Sir_Ken_Kutaragi - 526 days 16 hours ago

...I Hope the xBox 360 NOSE-DIVES in Sales at a Fast rate(Faster than any Console has done before it)!!! ;-D
After reading the HATE on this for a few months the xBot Lemmings and Micro$oft DESERVE IT!!! :-/

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Thoas - 526 days 16 hours ago

I can tell your new to gaming, because if you weren't than you would know that many Final Fantasy games have been on Nintendo's platforms since the early 90's, years before PS1 was even thought of. The fanboys that should be mad are the Nintendo ones since there console was the first to have it. La Chance get out of here because your making yourself look really dumb with no knowledge of anything.

Oh yeah your avatar sucks

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Thoas - 526 days 16 hours ago

You disagree because you got

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

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juuken - 526 days 16 hours ago

"Wow , that was...euh...almost funny in a way...pretty ridiculous."

How is it ridiculous? Explain that one to me.

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eagle21 - 526 days 15 hours ago

Last holiday PS3, Wii, and PS2 outsold 360 worldwide with Halo 3.

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Jenzo - 526 days 15 hours ago

I think you are wrong there. Show me some proof. Link perhaps?

I'm pretty sure the 360 outsold the PS3 last holiday.

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eagle21 - 526 days 14 hours ago

PS3 outsold 360 in Europe and Japan by healthy margins. That number made up for any loss in North america. I don't have the link, but I remember a BLOOMBERG article about this in January 2008.

Ps2 did too! :)

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karlostomy - 526 days 5 hours ago

Japan is exhibiting their "Lone Island" syndrome.

Homogeneosity, conformity and lack of individuality characterise the majority of the Japanese population.

I am not saying they are ALL like that, but generally, if the concept of "Hive mentality" applies anywhere, then it must surely apply in Japan.

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