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Who "Won" E3?

Endsights' Art Green writes:

"After every E3, it seems like gamers are always wondering who "won" E3 between Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo. The question strikes me as odd, because "winning" is a loaded term–it would mean that the others lost. With this E3, there wasn't a definite "loser", but varying degrees of winning. Maybe none of them appealed to you, but all of them had something to offer as long as you weren't looking at it from a purely personal basis.

So, who won E3? I'll let the grades speak for themselves but, in the end they all won in different ways."

Grades:

Microsoft: A-
Nintendo: C+
Sony: B+
dannyhinote_13 - contributor
Published: 537 days 1 hour ago | Article | E3 2008 | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Wii
 
 

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Gazman - 537 days 10 hours ago
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Gamers: A+
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TheHater - 537 days 1 hour ago
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Not all gamers, because some gamers can only afford one Console.
I pick multi-console owners are the real winner such as myself :)

@Megatron08
Like I said, some gamers can't afford all the console, so the are only stuck with one or two of the console.
1.2 Megatron08 | 537 days 1 hour ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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Steven Colbert - 536 days 23 hours ago
1.3 - Hello my multi-plat friends
I agree with you.This E3 provided me with me interesting products as a consumer.Definitely looking forward to this year.
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HateBoy - 536 days 23 hours ago
1.4 -
Who "cares".
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Steven Colbert - 536 days 23 hours ago
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@Haterboy What the hell did you mean by that?
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ape007 - 537 days 6 hours ago
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sony no doubt about it,with their awesome over the top first party games(can't you see that critics,are you blind)

ms shows excellent multi plat games and steal a game thats it(all of them are on ps3,better versions,relaible system,disk,free online)

nintendo shouldn't attend at e3

no show better than this

sony yet again give us an excellent e3

thank you sony(little disappointed with no ICO 2)
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The Wood - 537 days 2 hours ago
2.1 - i agree but i think tgs will be better
Biggest announcement goes to MS with that FF snag but i feel they papered over the cracks and that was the lack of 1st party games (true exclusives). Either MS have now become 'leak free' or there really isn't that much to come apart from Alan Wake, Too Human Gears 2 and Fable 2. That in no way compares to what sony is kooking. Ill leave nintendo out of this *wii nunchuck adapter huh* how much will a nunchuck and nunchuck adapter cost........about the same a core
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dannyhinote_13 - 537 days 1 hour ago
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@The Wood

I was disappointed that we didn't hear anything about Forza 3. That should be coming soon, though.
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archpsyker - 537 days ago
2.4 - @megatron8
so MS is so good now that they can see into the future seeing that Sony's conference was the day AFTER Microsofts?

And if you are referring to the Bungie canceled E3 announcement that is a speculation since Bungie didn't mention who the publisher is and they have broken away from Microsoft already.
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ape007 - 537 days ago
2.5 - @2.3
hey

name any game on the 360 that can just touche god of war 3
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Halochampian - 536 days 23 hours ago
2.6 - @ ape
tsk tsk tsk...

what kinda question is that that!?

You see a CGI trailer and now it is the best game ever!?!?

come on... that was such a fanboyish comment.

and your whole thing about multiplats being better on PS3 is completely opinion
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thewhoopimen - 536 days 23 hours ago
2.7 - @HaloChampion
You think pointing out the obvious number of titles Sony has over MS is crystal balling? Hey if you've got time to point fingers, let's hear your take on it.

Let me put it in a congenial non-crystal ball mode for you:
A titles Xbox Geow2, Fable 2, Left4dead, Alan Wake, Forza 3

A titles for Sony Heavy Rain, MAG, Socom, GOW3, R2, KZ2, FFXIII VS, Infamous, GT5, (ICO2)

We're talking 5 vs. 10 A Titles here. That's a year's lead if i recall from old xbox fanboi, "360 has buttloads of titles over PS3, we have halo3, ME, Gow, (Bioshock)" rants.

So where's the speculation of who's got more upcoming A titles?

Edit: Is Fable 2 going to be a system seller compared to FFXIII (if it were exclusive? No. FFXIII would've been an AAA seller. Fable 2 not).

Edit 2: If i forgot any exclusives on the 360 that are A titles, please fill me in. And if it's multiplat... just forget about it.
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Halochampian - 536 days 23 hours ago
2.8 - @ 2.7
I think it is funny how you know what games are AAA and which are not. Using that crystal ball I see?

why dont you use the crystal ball for something more useful...

EDIT: yea.. it is because you cannot determine what games will be AAA and wont be. I personally dont think Killzone 2 will be AAA but does that mean that it wont?!? NO!

So you just naming every exclusive on the ps3 and labeling it as a AAA is kinda fanboyish... while saying that Fable 2 is a "A at best"

You still forgot MANY titles on the 360.

EDIT 2:Viva Pinata 2, Banjo Kazooie 3, Halo Wars, Halo: Chronicles.
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The Wood - 536 days 23 hours ago
2.9 - Forget AAA cause we'll never agree
Just exclusives for this year and what we know of next year. Please list and you WILL see that sony has more, why? because they have 3 times as many studios and some of those work on 2 games simultaneously.

In regards to the topic in question; Sony showed more more games including exclusives but MS had the biggest announcement. Please show me different and ill accept it and shut my mouth. Goalpost seem to be conveniently shifted from the most games show to the biggest anouncement and games we know exist. My point is were they shown in any way shape or form, answer that and you'll understand my point. Did ms show alan wake? no Did sony show wipeout? no so they have nothing to do with e3 and should not factor into who 'won' it

@Megatron08 how ms cut things before knowing what sony was going to show is illogical to put it mildly, MS have money but i dont think they've acquired the delorean quite yet
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yesah - 536 days 19 hours ago
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lol, most of the games he talked about on the MS side are multiplat.
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thewhoopimen - 536 days 18 hours ago
2.11 - @2.8
Viva pinata2 / Halo Wars / Banjo are A titles? Pfft. Niche at best especially the first 2... Banjo maybe.

Fine if Viva's an A than Ragdoll Kungfu, The Agency, Linger in Shadows and LA Noire is my reply. Ragdoll looks like it might be a Smash Bros. Competitor and LA Noire is going to be wicked period.
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N2NOther - 536 days 17 hours ago
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Uhm...Actually, nearly every game that is on PS3 and 360 runs and plays better on 360 and at a higher resolution.

Personally, I own both consoles (No, the Wii doesn't count as a console as it's more of a glorified joke) and I've done the math...Between now and the end of the year I've got a list of 19 definite games and about 12 "maybes" This is gonna be a great Holiday.
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ape007 - 536 days 3 hours ago
2.13 - @2.6
chill man chill

I love my 360,I love gears of war and I will buy gears 2 day one

I didn't mean god of war 3 I mean god of wa franchise as a whole

man believe me play god of war 2 on ps2

and all of you fanboys out their from both sides(ms and sony)

don't miss a game just because you love brand A more than brand B

you are a gamer,you love gaming,not a tool for this company

but you know what

ps3 has the best exclusive games coming

any real gamer will not disagree with me

don't miss games,there are few game studios out there,the industry can go casual any time

peace :)
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ape007 - 537 days 6 hours ago
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the main point that I buy mostly ps3 versions is because of the blu-ray doesn't get scratched

that is the best feature aside from disk space
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Gordii - 537 days 4 hours ago
4 - Gordii
They do get scratch but its very very hard to you almost have to drop the disk on the floor and slide it around with your foot.
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thewhoopimen - 536 days 23 hours ago
4.1 - i agree
you can take steel wool to it and it will be fine. You can take a pizza cutter and it will be fine.
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Gamingisfornerds - 537 days 3 hours ago
5 - Casual gamers won this years E3.
Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all don't deserve the 'winner' tag, instead the hardcore gamers have lost.

So many great games gone unmentioned at this years E3, so many surprise no-shows and so many nasty surprises, almost always involving games only your grandma and grandpa would dare play.

Casual gamers won E3 2008.
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dannyhinote_13 - 537 days 1 hour ago
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Why do you say that? (Not trying to be a smart-ass, honestly would like to hear why.)
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fafoon - 537 days 1 hour ago
6.2 - Dear Danny
You wanna know why Sony won
watch The E3 Sony Press Conference
Its easy to see Why !!!
The Demonstration alone of LBP stole the show
And lets not forget Killzone 2 and Resistance 2
And then along came MAG
Just a few reasons there for you there are plenty more
Compare that to Microsoft big hitter Gears 2 and an announcement that ff 13 was also coming out on the Xbox
Its clear to see who won E3
SONY
And next up TOKYO
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Thoas - 537 days 1 hour ago
6.3 - @fafoon
I bet M$ wont even show up to TGS, Why should they? More PS2's are sold in japan than Xbox 360's. LOL PS2 came out in 2000 and it is still killing the Xbox brand.

Playstation FTW!
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sidar - 537 days 1 hour ago
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Konami won with RollerGames....what =(?..o T_T...

The only thing that really surprised me was FF13 going to Xbox too.
I remember all the fans saying " it will need 100 of DVD's or xbox cant run that game" ...Wonder how they feel xD

overall E3 sucks to me no winners >=(.....
(LBP is awesome though)
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Xpro PT - 537 days 1 hour ago
8 - Who "Won" E3?
Me
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dro - 537 days 1 hour ago
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i dont get it ms big thing was a game going multiplat and this gy thinks they won, they showed of a bunch of games that are also coming to the ps3 and showed only a few exclusive sony did not even focus on multiplat games they put all that into one clip and let it roll and had more exclusive on show but i can see were he is coming from about home because sony has delayed it so many times, i hope it comes out this year, i think the only thing i can say bad about sony e3 was that they did not give us a release date for R2 and they just like using cgi trailers to much but after seeing killzone 2 i will not doubt sony can achieve there cgi target trailer...to me i think sony won because they focused on exclusive games not multi plat games like ms did,and MAG is a fresh game that has never been done on a console..as for nintendo and the wii.....i dont even want to talk about nintendo,its all about the PS360 ;D
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pcz - 537 days 1 hour ago
10 - they all lost
it was a rubbish e3. it's like watching three trains crash and then saying who crashed the best
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Highwayman - 537 days 1 hour ago
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How many douche bag articles will there be.
Who won...It is as though the media wishs to add flames to the already large fire that is fanboys.
Yet they then turn around and claim that fanboyism is so childish...

Stupid people ought to not breed.
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SoulBrotha3292 - 537 days 1 hour ago
12 - wow ur all nerds
like 99/100 articles say 360 had a better show JEEZE STFU!!! its over obviously sony aint do somethin rite. Microsoft was ready 4 it. Next is TGS so lets c if sony can have a comebac and yes disagree cuz u no im rite but all sony did was show trailers, trailers and wiat more trailers
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lil Titan - 537 days ago
13 - Sony Hands Down
they put all there cards on the table with this one, Microsoft i guess comes 2nd since i didnt bother with watching nintendo but only thing they had to show was the same thing every one knew about Sony did show SOME of the games that was already out there but amazed us with some titles that are brand new IP's i mean if the only thing you have to offer is some rip off titles that another company already has and steal one game oh and also show a new interface i guess microsoft won hands down then
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N2NOther - 536 days 17 hours ago
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Anyone who didn't choose MS is merely a fanboy...See how stupid that sounds? No, I'm guessing you don't.
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Enigma_2099 - 537 days ago
15 - "As a hardcore gamer, their E3 showing for me was, in a word, awful."
Quoted from the Nintendo Wii section...

Wanna win this guy's favor? Stick shooters in his face...
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pcz - 537 days ago
16 - sony's e3
did anybody else get the impression that their spokesman just wasn't interested in the products he was showing? he kept shrugging. it was rubbish, they all were.
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Iceman100x - 537 days ago
17 - won what
does this really matter or do some people just have no life?
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LoVeRSaMa - 537 days ago
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Is this news?

Because i am sure its Personal Opinion, how did this Trash get apporved?

Grades...

How did M$ even get a grade, so stealing and cheating is + on grades now Eh?
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Pck - 537 days ago
19 - Sony.
They won just like last year.
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Fadixon - 537 days ago
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It Should Be Like This
Microsoft (B+) Showing Gears of war 2, Fable 2, Fallout 3, Resident evil 5 :)
Nintendo (C) Ehh Wii Music ? lol
Sony (B+) Quite Boring At First But God Of War 3 , MAG , Infamous And the littile big planet presntation were awsome :D
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ape007 - 537 days ago
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the crirics just want to defend their american system blindly

RESISTANCE 2,KILLZONE 2,MOTORSRORM:PD,MAG,LBP,GOD OF WAR 3,INFAMOUS

and ps3 will also get

FALLOUT3,RESI 5 AND BIOSHOCK

on ms side

gears 2 looks very good fable 2 looks like 1,banjo look like a big letdown,it was crappy

my review

sony A-

ms b-

nintendo F
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Bucky Sligo - 537 days ago
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You left out all the major xbox dashboard improvements and netflix. You also left out the FF anouncement. IMO, microsoft took it easily. They put the PSN way back again. Sony needs more than poorly implemented trophies(which they stole from MS) to beat XBL now.
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Halochampian - 536 days 23 hours ago
22.2 - @ ape
that was the stupidest thing I ever heard. "defending their American system"

yea.... ok. Funny that MS has the best show at E3, that a fanboy like you are going to try and make up excuses.

Get over it. Many people thought it was the best show. MOST people thought it had the best showing.

EVERYONE thinks Nintendo's sucked. lol
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pcz - 536 days 23 hours ago
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what happened to sonys motion controller? the one that breaks in two? and microsofts motion controller? and where were nintendo and all their real announcements? why don't people just admit that e3 this year was pants.

the biggest announcement was final fantasy on the 360. thats it. everything else was underwhelming.
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f789790 - 536 days 23 hours ago
24 - Since when is E3 a competition?
But Nintendo failed in my eyes.
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