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Wii60 Graphics on the Way?

This gameplayer article explores the potential of the upcoming Wii exclusive game engine Quantum 3 with quotes from the developer and some info about the first game that is using it, The Conduit.

"If this graphical borax doesn't mean much to you, we'll break it down in layman's terms: they could well be able to create environments an objects that are on par with graphics seen on some first generation Xbox 360 games – and all of it will run at a baby smooth 30 fps (which High Voltage plans to bump up to a full 60fps)."

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SickNick85 - 569 days 22 hours ago

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Like perfect dark zero graphic???

Good for Wii but not comparable to 360 or ps3

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aebriscoejr - 569 days 15 hours ago

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Agreed. It may get close to producing visuals on that level, but the Wii is no where near capable of pumping out COD 4, Gears, Mass Effect, Killzone, or Uncharted graphics. And it won't be able to have a much stuff running on the screen like Resistance, Heavenly Sword, and Ratchet.

This engine can probably produce a watered down version of Kameo, but nothing on par with anything after 2006.

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1.2 MadMax | 569 days 11 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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solsub - 569 days 10 hours ago

1.3 - @MadMax

Please tell me you were being sarcastic.

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samfk - 569 days 1 hour ago

1.4 - ive seen some of it

its looks ok but its not going to be possible to get graphics as good as the 360 , ps3 maybe only joking !! but no1 buys a wii for graphics do they ?theyll be lucky to get xbox never mind 360 graphics with the tech theve got!still got people talkin and thats what they want free advertising. i prefer BIG TITTIES MESELF

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tweaker - 569 days 21 hours ago

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"they could well be able to create environments an objects that are on par with graphics seen on some first generation Xbox 360 games"

I'm a believer. ;)

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Rock Bottom - 569 days 20 hours ago

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Don't get your hopes up too high, some things are just not possible.

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thewhoopimen - 569 days 16 hours ago

2.2 - @2

I would believe too except the Conduit gameplay trailer looked like crap.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 569 days 16 hours ago

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thats useing pre rendered backgrounds like in Resident Evil and Final Fantasy on PSOne

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BeNice - 569 days 14 hours ago

2.4 - Crimson wolf get your head out of your @ass

you know nothign aout gaming and you are not a rela gamer you are just a whiny kid who thinks he is all grown up cos he plays games wiht blood and s.e.x in them. Get over yourself, gaming as you know it wouldn't exist if not for nintendo. the n64 was more powerfult ehn the ps1 and the gc was more powerful than the ps2 so yeah nintendo always had the more powerful system except this generation because they catered to the hardcore twice and they lost miserably. And now the hardcore gamers come out and say nintendo lost the hardcore this gen, my question to you where were you for the last two generations? I am involed too because I bought a ps2 last gen. But looking back the gamecube is a brilliant system. And the wii is great too it lacks power and somehow that has come into play greatly this gen I don't know why though.Maybe we had a flood of immature idiots in the last gen that cae into this gen and mistook gaming to be about max polygons on screen and highest clock speed and fastest floating point calculations and resolution of textures. The gc did an impressive job with resi 4 and it still holds up today. the ps2 version does not. The wii can do first gen 360 games maybe , maybe not who cares. does it affect you unless you own a wii,which you defintely don't since you have no respect for what nintendo is as a company. They proved you don;t need violence or blood to make games fun. I have played a whole ton of systems even old school games and I have standards for my gamin . th wii meeets them. it has had some truly exemplary games in the last 6months that make it more than worth owning.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 569 days 13 hours ago

2.5 - @ Above

oh yea whatever you say like anyone is reading all that paragraph retard.

Also I love my N64 and GameCube.

Also My favourite games are RPGs not se.x and voilence and gore.

Also Gamers downplay the wii because its too casual.

I been gaming since Commodore64

Bubbles minus for you and grow up Nintendo Fanboy.

Also Orican of Time is not the best RPG fanboy Chrono Trigger is.

Go play brawl which you think your god Miyamoto created it when it is in fact a pure rip off SEGA's Game

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BeNice - 569 days 13 hours ago

2.6 - @ crimson wolf whoa!

when did i say ocarina of time? I am not a nintendo fanboy. far from it. I did not own a gamcube i owned a ps2. I find it insulting to have gamers hwo call themselves real gamers and then say graphics are everything. Thrashing another console was not a part of game except perhaps in the nintendo vs sega days. You hardly express nay affection for nintendo you can't blame me for assuming you hate nintendo. you say things like nintendo is crapthey did not make gaming. The stuff that gmesblow says is right. Nintendo does nto revolutionze gaming. And that any game they make is a rehash and happens to be crap. Funny how you could love those systems. Thw ii has enough games to cater to the hardcore for being a new system that was ingnored and downplayed by the so called hardcore gamers.And yes chrono trigger is in fact the best rpg i don't disagree wiht yu on that. and minus bubbles to you too sir. And please learn to write likes omone your age because you have got to be in your 20's at this point considering hwo long you have been gamin , but you sound like a 14 yr old. Also , i enjoy nintendo's gamea ans sony's and microsoft's i don't care about the consoles themselves. Also your recently edited comment shows you hate nintendo oso i wonder how you can love their last two systems? I can't play super smahs brother sbrawl because my 360 owning friend took my wii away so that he could play it for two months. I have his 360 sniff sniff :P ONE THING I NEED TO ADD> I DON"T AHTE ANY CONSOLE OR LOVE ANY OF THEM , I LIKE PLAYSTATION GAMES , MGS, JAK AND DAXTER AND SOCOM 360 I CAN ENJOY HALO BUT I DON'T DISLIKE A SYSTEM.yOU SOMEHOW MAKE ME OUT TO BE FANBOY. nO ONE DEFENDS THE WII BUT THERE A TRUCKLOAD OF GUYS/GIRLS TO DFEND THE 360OR THE PS3. i THOUGHT I SHOULD HELP EVEN IT OUT.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 569 days 13 hours ago

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1st you started insulting for nothing.

2nd. You say I don't love Nintendo. I used to love them but this gen they went too far and casual espically with gimicks like WiiFit and WiiSport. Also I HATE waving my hands to play.

Also. Considering the Specs Wii is TOO EXPENSIVE

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dcbronco - 569 days 13 hours ago

2.8 - They might be telling the truth.

I own a 360 and had a Xbox before that. When the specs were being reported on early in the development of the new consoles, I seem to remember one of the developers saying the graphics processor in the Wii was more powerful than the one in the original Xbox. Read the article in the link, as it has some developer input. First generation 360 gamews were not that much better than Xbox games. That being the case, I believe the Wii should be able to eventually out perform the Xbox. Especially considering it was built from the ground up for games and not just off the shelf parts like the Xbox.

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sidar - 569 days 12 hours ago

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WTF
" Also Orican of Time is not the best RPG fanboy Chrono Trigger is."

first of all
i for one would like to know this ORICAN.
Second.
you CAN NOT use that as an argument.

That is subjective( ya know its more opinion based then actuall fact...i think tales of phantasia is the best RPG....am i fanboy now too ?) also where did he mention it in his post >_<

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iamtehpwn - 569 days 12 hours ago

2.10 - Conduit did look bad but thats because

It has no publisher and the developers are funding the entire thing in house. So, They can't really focus on the game and spend as much money as they need to.

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dcbronco - 569 days 7 hours ago

2.11 - Stupid Me, forgot the link.

http://www.gamedaily.com/ar...

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permutated - 569 days 7 hours ago

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Anyone who's seen the screens and the tech demo of the Conduit over at IGN Wii knows that these people are only talking out of their ass.

The graphics are horrid. Even for a Wii game.

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B Man - 569 days 4 hours ago

2.13 - Why even try to sugar coat the graphics of the Wii?

Ok... sure, you try to grab people's attention by saying it's on par with the 360's graphics, but then go on to say it's on par with 360 LAUNCH titles. No kidding... I don't doubt wii games will reach that point. It would be sad if they didn't. The thing is, we've all always known the Wii isn't known for it's graphics capability... but for its gameplay. I never bought a Wii expecting Mario Galaxies to be the best looking game ever made... I don't think any sane person did.

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tplarkin7 - 569 days 4 hours ago

2.14 - Wii < Xbox 1

The Wii hasn't produced a single game that is technically superior to Halo 1 (a 7 year old game). Let's talk about getting a game up to par with Xbox 1 before we talk about the 360.

The Wii does not have the hardware to handle shaders. You will never see a Wii game that can match Halo 1.

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KLEPTOMANIAC - 569 days 1 hour ago

2.16 - @BeNice

stop flooding articles, with huge paragraphs. its called leave a comment. not leave a short story. your boring us all

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tweaker - 568 days 22 hours ago

2.17 - @Trekster

Have you seen some launch titles on both the 360 and PS3. They look like crap. That's why I said I'm a believer.

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Papacharinonanadan - 569 days 21 hours ago

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I would love to believe this is true... but I can't see it happening.

Although PGR3 looked terrible, so what is the bar they are looking at reaching. Will watch this game closely all the same.

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Kleptic - 569 days 10 hours ago

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yeah I agree...saying 'as good as some first gen 360 titles' really leaves the door open to speculation...same for the PS3...that Gundam: something or other looked like a PS2 title...literally...

and the launch of the 360 had nearly EVERYONE wondering what exactly the new generation had in store...CoD 2 played great, but didn't even look as good as the game running on a weak PC at that point (which is not a dig at the 360...Gears looked better than any game made, PC or console, when it launched a year later, save for Oblivion)...PDZ had some impressive parts, but didn't come close to have the jump gamers were used to when a new generation of hardware arrives...

the multi-core development fiasco that started around that time really left devs in a bind to push the systems in any sense of the word...games simply didn't look that good back then...and most games at the launch for the 360 were still on the PS2 as the lead...which didn't help either...

I am sure the Wii will get some better looking games over time...but you can't argue with the fact that processing power wise...its an xbox...and an Xbox 8 years old right now...there is only so much you can do with that...this company hyping their engine is no different than if someone said they could 'almost' get PS3 launch title graphics out of the PS2 (which, in a way was almost accomplished with GOW 2)...depends what launch titles you are talking about...

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titntin - 569 days 20 hours ago

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Whilst I'm pleased to see someone pushing what the WII is capable off, they really don't do themselves any favors by trying to invite comparisons with the more tech heavy consoles.
Viewed by itself as a WII engine, the quantum 3 tech demo looks OK. Compare it with what the 360 or PS3 is doing though and it it looks decidedly last gen.

WII games are not competing with the 360, and shouldn't try to. The developers should simply make the best looking games they can on the WII and be happy with it - WII fans will be happy to get graphically better titles. Inviting comparisons they will never meet, undermines their achievements and really is not necessary.

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thewhoopimen - 569 days 16 hours ago

5.1 - @5?

Space? What do you mean space? Like empty shelf space because there aren't any good games?

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Nostradamus - 569 days 15 hours ago

5.2 - Space?

I dont get it either.

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sidar - 569 days 14 hours ago

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SPACE as in MEMORY...512 = LAME

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Kleptic - 569 days 10 hours ago

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unless of course he means "space" as in needing plenty of room to flail your arms around like a crazy person without killing your best friend...then agreed...wii owners should care more about space than graphics...

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flexbox360 - 569 days 5 hours ago

5.5 - yo

wii sucks. go back in ur corner wiiboy

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Balance - 569 days 18 hours ago

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i think they are wearing beer gogles, the tech demo and stuff looks more like a current ps2 game than a 1st gen 360 or ps3 game.

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aiphanes - 569 days 17 hours ago

7 - This is all spin..the wii graphics are no better than Xbox 1 or PS2 graphics...

There is no way wii graphics will be as good and first gen Xbox 360 graphics...

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sidar - 569 days 13 hours ago

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The reason you say this is because of the developers not even trying to get it all out.
Also they never claimed to make an engine producing PS3/360 Quality renders. its more like the rendering techs behind it(i.e normal mapping ).

But why is it impossible for the Wii to render fancy gfx? Since tech is going so fast with new tricks and what now, who says the GPU isnt capable of making good looking renders?

Also i think its funny that people actually know what this GPU can do...pretending they are pro's or something( and no im just saying there is a possebility that HV could actually deliver a early 360 looking game, Wii renders on 480P, unlike 360 and Ps3 doing it on 1080P....well the game HAZE is doing it on 576P LOL thats like The pal resolution only without the P...something the Wii can do)

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codeazrael - 569 days 17 hours ago

8 - Well, as an Xbox fan, I must admit that this could be possible

If the Wii is beefier or even close to being beefier than the original Xbox, then this it is indeed possible to get graphics that rival launch 360 titles, and here is why...
When the 360 first launched, of course you were able to tell the difference somewhat between alot of original xbox titles and 360's, but there was alot of complaints, even by industry folks that launch 360 games werent that much of an evolution over the original xbox 3rd generation games, and I somewhat agree. But that's only because Microsoft werent showing prerendered videos at E305' but they were actually showing games running on the 360. And as graphics get to the point they are at now, you are really starting to reach beyond realistic looking, even into hyper-realistic, so you are not going to see the graphical leaps we seen with going from NES to SNES or PS1 to PS2, at least you are not going to notice huge leaps at launches of new consoles. It will take a while to tap the system to produce games that will truly define a successor system from its predecessor. Besides, we all need to remember that the original Xbox, being on the market for only 4 years still had room to improve graphicswise, and so if the Wii is indeed beefier than the Xbox, or even close, just remember that if the Xbox reached full potential with the devs, then the lines between original xbox and the launch 360 titles would be extremely blurred, because remember, games like Chaos Theory were extremely impressive looking, as well as cut scenes at the end of Path of Neo. So yes, it is more than possible for the Wii to produce a game on par with some launch 360 games, but in the end, with Ninty's hardcore gamers alienated and already having a 360 or PS3 to satisfy that hardcore craving, do anybody really care about this game? Crysis boasted about being the king of all graphic intense games, but "inferior looking games" outsold it at a staggering rate. IMO this is another example of a dev trying to put the spotlight on themselves to promote their game.

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hfaze - 569 days 7 hours ago

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While I agree that getting close to 360 launch quality graphics out of the Wii isn't too much of a stretch, I really don't expect anything breathtaking out of the Quantum 3 engine. The Wii is truly engineered to be a casual gaming machine.

With a single-threaded ~740Mhz CPU, and only 88MB of RAM shared between system and video, there's only going to be so much that you have the resources to do. Quantum 3 may be able to give great results in small confined environments (like racing games, fighting games, etc.), but you will have no choice other than to tone down the graphics if you want to use larger environments.

And as far as generational jumps not being as impressive as in the early days of gaming... When I see in-game graphics on par with or exceeding the graphics in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, or when sports games look just like watching a live sports event, then I'll agree with you. The current generation of consoles will not deliver this (not enough CPU horsepower or RAM, period). There is still room for improvement graphics-wise...

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name - 569 days 17 hours ago

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If this happens that'll be great for wii owners. I hope they go through with it. Good luck to the devs

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The Dude - 569 days 16 hours ago

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If they could do this for the wii imagine what they could do for the ps3. All ps3 games could achieve 640p or above.

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thewhoopimen - 569 days 16 hours ago

9.2 - @9

And all 360's would stop freezing and RRoding. What's that again?

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Le-mo - 569 days 16 hours ago

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I hope they get way in over their head in the graphics department. It's the gameplay that counts.

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BrotherNick - 569 days 16 hours ago

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I hope the engine will be put to good use by other devs as well.

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DragonKnight24 - 569 days 16 hours ago

11 - Gamecube 1.5

Has the graphical power of an original Xbox. So, if an original Xbox is capable of outputting 1st gen 360 graphics (which we can never know, thanks Microsoft) then the Wii can too. But I doubt it.

The technical specs of a Wii are LITERALLY a Gamecube 1.5

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BrotherNick - 569 days 16 hours ago

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I would say you're about right. Just checked wikipedia. I gave you credit for the info: http://forums.n4g.com/m_120...

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sidar - 569 days 13 hours ago

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" The technical specs "
the technical specs mean sh*t to us, you don't know what you can do with it.

I remembering having an old PC PII 200MHZ.
it couldn't even emulate a freaking SNES game properly.
my Pc was freaking "55,86" times stronger then a original snes (3.58MHz)but it didn't mean sh*t apparently.

Also Wii's CPU makes use of a POWERPC structure.

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Leafs117 - 569 days 15 hours ago

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you guys wont be getting condemned...and if you will it'll be something like: Condemned Olympic Games, or Condemned Kart, or Condemned Party

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Intrepid - 569 days 15 hours ago

13.2 - @13.1

It's a real shame that you're still using the franchise/kiddy jokes, especially when several adult-oriented games have recently been revealed for the Wii. Nintendo Power's also set to unveil a new 3rd party game in the next issue, not to mention Nintendo has said that a few games for hardcore gamers are to be revealed at E3.

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Leafs117 - 569 days 15 hours ago

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wow, a few adult-oriented games :O :O :O

I was going to pick up a Wii for this generation, believe me, I had plans to go and line-up in front of EB Games over-night but when I took one look at the Wii's line-up, I cancelled those plans. It doesn't matter if Nintendo will announce a few third party "hardcore" games. They've tried it with Manhunt 2 and No More Heroes, they kind of floundered.People aren't buying third party games because most of the people who bought it are mis-informed and don't know much about games. Most of the people who bought it will only buy Mario games or really crappy licensed games because they don't know any better. That is why all of the crapware is on the Wii, because soccer moms are buying it for their 8 year-olds and that is why it is sad to see Nintendo waste the amount of potential that the Wii has on this "crapware." I doubt a few "hardcore" games will do anything to heal those wounds, because they just won't sell enough games. 2008 is Nintendo's last year to prove to devs that their console is capable of selling third party titles. If we have the same results as 2007, say goodbye to all those developers. Just face it, Nintendo has failed their hardcore fans this generation.

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Shadow Flare - 569 days 22 hours ago

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anything, even the wii could reach wii60 graphics but it could never hit pswii graphics ;P

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Shadow Flare - 569 days 16 hours ago

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Oh, It's quite windy here today, aye?

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Pain - 569 days 13 hours ago

1.5 - Aww Poop u made me Laugh!!!

lol u must be 12..

I hate the wii as much as RROD2 but i still Dont believe it can do RROD 2 graphics or even close.

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Jason 360 - 569 days 4 hours ago

1.7 - so.... uh

When will the PS3 ever catch up to the 360?

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Hellsvacancy - 569 days 21 hours ago

2 - lol

i dont mind the Wii it brings sumthin new 2 the table unlike a certain other console the "eXaggerated BOX360"

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gregory247 - 569 days 20 hours ago

2.1 - lol x2

yea its funny how they backed off the PS3...

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Leafs117 - 569 days 15 hours ago

2.2 -

ur right, it brings the same 20 year old IP's with a few different levels and a controller that is fun to swing around for a few months until you move onto a real console (PS3 or 360)

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chanto23 - 569 days 19 hours ago

3 - so this means...

the wii will have 3 years old graphics now? Welcome to 2005!!!

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ELite_Ghost - 569 days 11 hours ago

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it's better than 7 years (gamecube)

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psycho360 - 569 days 11 hours ago

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Obviously they are targetting the best games console so no point in bringing p3 there. If they can match 360 gfx then its automatically taken over ps3.

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Ogrekiller - 569 days 11 hours ago

4.2 - No,

its not that they can't touch the PS3- they've already surpassed it. Why mention a console that you've already beaten (ie: the PS3)? Everyone knows that the 360's the one to shoot for.

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PoSTedUP - 569 days 16 hours ago

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i seen videos of this quantum 3 stuff on the net, its pretty impressive and just as good as some of the 360 games, but it is far from uncharted. but dont underestimate the power of the wii.

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Thoas - 569 days 15 hours ago

5.2 - @PoSTedUP

LOL not even the Xbox 360 has anything close to Uncharted graphics right now and please Xbots dont say Gears of war because everyone knows Unreal Tournament 3 looks better than Gears.

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Leafs117 - 569 days 15 hours ago

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@Thomas
Ever heard of a little game called Bioshock?

and of course Unreal Tournament 3 looks better, ITS A NEWER GAME!

Lets see how amazing Gears Of War 2 will look before we start judging graphics...

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Thoas - 569 days 15 hours ago

5.4 - @Leafs117

LOL Xbots always bring up Gears of war 1.5. From the in game trailer i saw and you saw Gears 1.5 looks likes Gears 1. Face it Xbox 360 is tapped out. Plus the PC versions of all the so called Xbox 360 exclusives look better on the PC anyway, HDD installs make the games so much better. Xbox 360 is a Epic Fail.

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Leafs117 - 569 days 15 hours ago

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you do realize that GoW 2 is coming out in October, right? That leaves Epic about 5 and a half months to complete the game, more than enough time for them to build the graphics up. Why the hell are you calling it GoW 1.5, did you learn that slang at Nazi camp? Its not tapped out, not even close. The only reason MS is putting these game on a PC is because they also have a Games For Windows division, and to even run these games at their full graphical capability you need to have a $600+ rig. While I agree MS screwed up with the Arcade, so what? Sony has messed up on some things with the PS3 also.

At least MS didn't show the gameplay trailer for GoW2 using CG...like Sony did for kz2 in 2005. Also, you didn't answer my question about Bioshock...

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Thoas - 569 days 13 hours ago

5.6 - @Leafs117

Bioshock does not look better than UTIII and UTIII dose not look better than Uncharted. You answered your own question already too in your first post when you called me Thomas. Sad thing is most Xbots cant read anyway thats why they have a RRODbox 360. Take the Red pill and get out of Bill Gates's poop chute.

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Gaara_724 - 569 days 14 hours ago

6 - haha

1st gen 360 games dude final fantasy 12 was better than them all graphic wise

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sidar - 569 days 12 hours ago

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low Frames per second and huge jaggies, simple looking models...im sorry the game is a good game...but lets not talk about its gfx( it did look good but not as you claim them to be)

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Hellsvacancy - 569 days 14 hours ago

7 - wot about bioshock

another game that uses the unreal engine just like Geow 1&2, mass effect and bioshock its gettin old i wouldnt paint all the walls in my house the same colour

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Leafs117 - 569 days 13 hours ago

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go ahead and paint the walls in your house the same colors as the Wii can output, the Wii is a gamecube with a stick that you wave around, thats it

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PoSTedUP - 569 days 13 hours ago

7.2 - yo man

i wasent criticizing anything, i was just saying i seen the quantum 3 in action and it dosent look bad, its up to par with some avrage graphics on the 360. thats all

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sidar - 569 days 12 hours ago

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2 accounts ? 0_o?

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PoSTedUP - 569 days 12 hours ago

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the only thing i dont like about the wii is that mario kart and reg. mario is not the same anymore, and in my eyes its not better.

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n00bPwner - 569 days 12 hours ago

8 - this is pointless

it would be a much more realistic bar for them to reach if they tried making PS3 graphics on Wii.

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PoSTedUP - 569 days 12 hours ago

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that would be unrealistic and unnecessary, the wii is still a nex gen console despite their graphics, its not always about the graphics. and their doing fine with out it.

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cooke15 - 569 days 10 hours ago

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funny how more people are talking about ps3 and 360 than they are WIi which is what this article is about. This site seriously drives me nuts.

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stretch1979 - 569 days 9 hours ago

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The trailer to the conduit looks decent enough, its better than some of the other third party crap that has been dumped onto the wii, but i think the developers are just trying to heighten expectation for this game and their proprietary engine.

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ApocalyPS3 - 569 days 7 hours ago

11 - @hellsvacancy

Before you make outrageously inaccurate claims, do yourself a favor and get educated. You'd be surprised at how powerful the 360 truly is.

Afterall, we are talking symmetrical three core processor, housing 3x 3.2 ghz dual threaded "PowerPC 970" equivalent cores. 9.6ghz of speed, three physical cores, two hardware threads per core. That's hardly laughable, unless you're laughing to keep yourself from shivering at its might.

Plus there's Xenos, the universal shader architecture graphics chip that allows superb flexibility in the way that devs chose to utilize vertex pixel geometry and physics processing power. Both major GPU manufacturers have gone unified, with ATI AMD's hd2xxx series being the first to hit the shelves, with dx10.1 compatibility.

360's a contender to rekon with.

PS3 and 360 will BOTH be hard watermarks to reach for the wii, though people should at least know their sh*t before they speak.

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ApocalyPS3 - 567 days 22 hours ago

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To disagree with fact is admitting denial. Back you sh*t, don't just click disagree because I said something that made you unsure for a second. Or because the very thought i have something to say makes you feel like your console is in danger of being challenged.

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ApocalyPS3 - 569 days 7 hours ago

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You don't go to n4g becuase you like games. You go there to spend time waiting for games that aren't out yet. And if there are more PS3 gamers than 360 gamers on this site logging in everyday...

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jinn - 568 days 14 hours ago

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wont help it at all

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