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Analyst: Wii Fit advertising killing Nintendo hardcore crowd

Analyst Michael Pachter is now synonymous with his predictions of the videogames world, and today the Wedbush Morgan employee has cast his eye over Nintendo's Wii advertising, specifically that for Wii Fit - complaining that it is killing off the console's hardcore crowd.
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Published: 615 days 15 hours ago | News | Wii
 
 

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TruthbeTold - 615 days 17 hours ago
1 - Man I'm sick of this guy.
What an idiot. When are people going to realize that stuff like Wii Fit (don't know if I'm ready exactly to call it a game yet) is bringing new people into the gaming world. Even if some mother buys Wii Fit and never plays another video game, the very idea of Video games has become acceptable and o.k. in her mind for her kids. Thus, she will buy them the games that THEY request regardless of whether she wants to play them.

Many gamers will buy Wii Fit out of curiosity, or in hopes that cool games come out in the future which use it (and likely they will come). The casual crowd will buy it, and many of them will see for the first time the rest of the gaming world and consider it. Unless something like this, which attracts them and pulls them in, they'd never even care about gaming.

The children who play kiddie games on the Wii, the Teens and young adults who play party and casual games, many of them will become hardcore as they learn to love gaming and seek something different, or more serious. This benefits the entire industry in the long run. As long as the Hardcore keep buying serious games, Developers will never stop making them. As long as new gamers are being brought in, new crops of the Hardcore will continue to sprout. Wii Fit is expanding the market, not hurting it. (Unless of course you consider games that you personally dislike to be inherently bad for gaming, which is pathetically arrogant and selfish.)

Most of the people who buy Wii Fit (The Oprah Crowd) would likely never have considered video games in the first place, their kids will play the hell out of the console when they aren't using it, and one day, they will want and get more serious games.

Nintendo has already come out with a Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid, Mario Kart and Smash Bros game for the Wii in its first year and a half. Not only can they afford currently to try something like Wii Fit to bring new gamers in, and experiment with a different style of gaming, they have no intention of halting their creation of classic Nintendo hardcore style games. New Kid Icarus, Pikmin, Zelda, and Pokemon games are in the works right now.

I'm sick of hearing people make these false statements just because they personally don't like the idea of Wii Fit. Most of those people probably don't own, or plan to own a Wii anyway. Why feel threatened? You have your 1080p, your shooters where you aim with your thumbs, your realistic racers, and smooth epic RPG's with no end in sight. Be happy and quit hating. Nintendo is building up the gaming crowds numbers, and all will benefit. Eventually.
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Coke-a-Cola - 615 days 15 hours ago
1.1 - Nintendo is only trying to make a buck ....... ( Novelty )
Cash in on Peoples Vanity .

In the " end " just as it is with so many of these silly exorcise things it will be found in the yard sale.
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Sev1512 - 615 days 14 hours ago
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Its not going to bring new people to gaming. Its just to give moms more of a reason to buy one for their kids. They figure "I can use it for weight loss, and the kids can play their games".

I will be damned if any of these moms playing Wii Fit, will suddenly start playing Twilight Princess, or Super Mario Galaxy. Its just not going to happen. They might try Wii Sports, but they arent going to spend hours playing that. Also I am not sure if you can call that a game, its more of a Wiimote demo. Same with Wii Play.

Personally for me Wii Fit is just another slap to us hardcore.
Nintendo already has kicked the hardcore to the side with the Wii.

I own a Wii, and its the least played console I have EVER owned.

I will play it every now and again because my wife loves Mario games.

I have owned every single Nintendo console they have ever released (damn virtual boy) and since owning the Wii, I have a very bad taste in my mouth from Nintendo. If their next console is like the Wii, I will DEFINITELY be passing on that.
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jtucker78 - 615 days 13 hours ago
1.3 - To TruthbeTold
I'm not saying you're wrong.
Perhaps the Wii is bringing more people to the gaming market, but as someone that has grown up owning every Nintendo system, I felt really disappointed with the Wii. Enough to sell it and jump ship to Sony.

I'm not interested Nintendo's new direction. Wii Sports....
Brain Games... Wii fit.... That's great for the kids, grannies etc, but me?
That is the demographic Nintendo have in their sights. Not me.

I love the Nintendo franchises, but there is only so many times I can play the same Zelda, Smash brothers, Kart, just repackaged.

Look at kart. All skill elements have been completely removed, and it can't offer me anything now. I'm not interested in a free-for-all party game.

I can't speak for other non-casuals but Nintendo has lost me.

Who knows, maybe they'll get me back next generation, but for now I've sold all my Wii kit on ebay and am looking forward to GTA4.

Maybe I'll see you in a few years Nintendo. That is, if you decide you want to earn some of my money.
For a start you can fill your console full of hardware that justifies its price. Hardware that will run something higher than a PS2 port.
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BrotherNick - 615 days 13 hours ago
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It's obvious the grannies and mom's won't play hardcore games, you guys feel like you're betrayed cause they're not paying attention on you. Well you didn't pay attention to them, why fight in a losing market...that's the dumbest thing a company can do. They had the best graphics of all the systems, yet they were in last place last generation. I am guessing they said screw the hardcore because the hardcore doesn't want them anymore. I'm happy with Nintendo and what they've been doing, and the whiners are the ones being screwed. Oh well, us Nintendo fans have our franchises and we're happy. :)
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PS360WII - 615 days 15 hours ago
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Yeah I'm sorry but one game aimed at the non gamer is not going to turn away leigons of the hardcore. If that was the case then Singstar, DDR, GH, Buzz, and many more casual games would of killed off all those hardcore PS2 fans.
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KyonoRocks - 615 days 15 hours ago
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DDR is hardcore to the max
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BeaArthur - 615 days 15 hours ago
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The bottom line is that hardcore gamers will continue to play games they like. If you think something like Wii Fit is going to keep people from playing Zelda then this guy is even dumber than he appears. Hardcore gamers don't need advertising, we already know more about a game than any advertising campaign could ever tell us.
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rwalrond - 615 days 14 hours ago
4 - Blah, Blah, Blah
When will this crap ever end? I know everybody experiences are different but I went out and purchased a Wii when it first came out, started playing some games with the kids, started liking games again after 15 years, thought, maybe I should get myself an X360 or PS3 and try out these "hardcore" games. So I did, now not only do I play the Wii but I'm playing Rainbow six on my PS3 as well. Guess what? When Wii Fit comes out I'm buying that too, am I alone on this one guys? Is it possible that the Wii can help casual gamers become more hardcore? Come find me on Rainbow six and figure it out for yourself.
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jtucker78 - 615 days 13 hours ago
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I think you're in a minority...
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cityofgod - 615 days 12 hours ago
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agree with 4.1, I know too many people who own a wii whose experience is completely different from yours.
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NarsilianShard - 615 days 10 hours ago
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since when did the wii have a hardcore crowd?
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TruthbeTold - 615 days 7 hours ago
5.1 - Uhm...
Brawl has sold over 3 million copies this past month in the U.S. alone. There's quite a hardcore following with Nintendo. They just don't trust games not made by Nintendo enough to spend their money on them (for the most part).
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--Onilink-- - 615 days 10 hours ago
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What i dont understand about most people, is how they complain that nintendo is only aiming at the casual crowd and yet if you look at the games released so far, in just 1 year and a half nintendo has given us almost all of its biggest frnachises(mario galaxy, zelda twilight princess, metroid prime 3, super smash bros brawl, mario kart) something we certainly didnt see on the gc or N64, and we'll probably see 1 or 2 more these year.
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--Onilink-- - 615 days 10 hours ago
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and about mario kart, if you actually read the reviews you can see that the problem is mostly on single player 150cc, but the rest is ok, especially online, we finally get a game with great online options and all you people do is complain, i really doubt that nintendo is thinking on the casual crowd on the online part of mario kart
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SteveZim1017 - 615 days 10 hours ago
9 - Bravo
Great Post TruthbeTold, I agree 100% although there are a few below you that dont seem to understand what you meant.

And I am so tired of hearing the Nintendo whining... "I have had every console and this one sucks. the original nintendo was awsome and totally made rockin games for me when I was 10 years old. Now Nintendo is stupid for making a console that has more games for 10 year olds than for me now that I'm 30!!"

Nintendo makes games that are enjoyable for kids and adults. ALWAYS HAVE, they havent changed, you have!!!
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forum_crawler - 615 days 9 hours ago
10 - I don't see how...
I don't know if I am a hardcore wii gamer, I play games that I like, and that is it. What my wii can't play I play on my PC with all the eye candy turned on.

Wii fit will be a hit, and I will buy one. Those who can't buy it because it isn't "hardcore" enough for them are silly. Those who won't buy it because it isn't their thing are smart (especially if they don't complain about it).
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Kwertie - 615 days 9 hours ago
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I'm sick of this nobody spouting negative stuff about Wii and Xbox360. Who the hell is he anyway?
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Perverted - 614 days 15 hours ago
12 - What hardcore crowd?
Wiis hardcore crowd where killed off long ago....

We just becomes zombies for a month when a decent hardcore game comes out then die again.

Gamers and non gamers alike will buy this game some out of curiosty some desperate to get fit and others because they have too much money, but lets stop the hate on N4G and start to spread the love :D to each their own and all that.

The Wii is my most played console and I would consider myself hardcore...but my 360 requires cash to play online and all it seems to have are fps(meh)...
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