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New Wii game engine promises PS3 visuals - Quantum3 engine claims to be the most powerful in the industry

High Voltage Software is hoping to change the face of Wii video games, with its new Quantum3 engine, which is claimed to enable Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 visuals on the tiny Wii console.

Quantum3 is the result of 15 years development experience and enables developers to make use of advanced graphical features, including better dynamic bump mapping, light effects, glossing and other visual improvements. Additionally, Quantum3 uses a 16 TEV stage material pipeline that can blend up to 8 separate texture sources.

"The Wii platform is capable of a lot more than what consumers have seen so far. We're hoping to raise a new bar," said High Voltage Software CEO Kerry Ganofsky.

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heyheyhey - 599 days 11 hours ago

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haha good luck with that

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ericnellie - 599 days 10 hours ago

1.1 - @ heyheyhey --

I've got to agree. I don't believe it, until I see it =)

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NO_PUDding - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Agreed.

If it weren't spamming my post would have been this:

"LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOL"

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solidt12 - 599 days 10 hours ago

1.3 - LOL

Funny, But hey if it was possible think about what this engine could do for the PS3 and 360. You could then in theory have High end PC graphics on a PS3 or 360. But I think they are dreaming.

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sonarus - 599 days 10 hours ago

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lol nice

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duarteq - 599 days 10 hours ago

1.5 - lol

Isn't the GPU a limitation for the consoles ?
The engine might be great but it is always limited by the GPU...

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Kirindongo - 599 days 9 hours ago

1.6 - OMG

LMFAO whats next crysis on wii.

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CaptainHowdy - 599 days 9 hours ago

1.7 - lol i can't take anymore....it's almost may, no more april fools

"NOW YOU'RE PLAYING WITH POWER"!!!! lol

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rushbd - 599 days 9 hours ago

1.8 - lol

yea. i cant believe what people says to sell their things.

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Maddens Raiders - 599 days 9 hours ago

1.9 - Good God -

This is comedy gold. After reading the title I almost blew Cheerios & milk all over my screen. Damn you! 8D

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somethingSQUISHY - 599 days 8 hours ago

1.10 - I'm sure those visuals will look just as good as the PS3/X360...

...in 480p? Back to the drawing board, dudes.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 599 days 7 hours ago

1.11 - i do agree with hey hey's first post.but i also believe anything is possible

with the right devs and the right code.

i used to think games couldn't get any better than atari games,but activision games looked better on the same system(2600).

i used to think games couldn't get any better on NES.but time and time again,nintendo,capcom,konami,e tc., surprised me with sequels with castlevania,contra,mega man and mario.

i'd bet all the gamers in this thread that had a nintendo SNES were floored by donkey kong country's graphics at the time.i sure was.i was trying to figure out how they did that.

same on genesis.how was treasure able to knock out awsome looking games like gunstar heroes?and sega themselves made games that looked as good as the arcade.which shouldn't have been possible with less memory.and games like flashback just had graphics,story,animation,a.i., etc.delphine were wizards to me.

in modern era,capcom made each resident evil game look more real than the last.when i saw the remake on gamecube and resident evil zero,i was floored again.pre-rendered yes.but still holds up to most next gen games.

as for the demo,i think to achieve the visuals,they will have to have smaller areas or be 2D like little big planet.but we'll see.

don't be surprised though if someone does pull a DK country on Wii.and this is coming from a ps3 fan.

megaton.................what up MADDEN?haven't seen you in a while.you slowed up on posting like i have.

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CrazyMystical - 599 days 6 hours ago

1.12 - get the f*#k out of here, seeing is believing.

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iamtehpwn - 599 days 5 hours ago

1.13 - @ 1.10

Thats pretty foolish of you.
We've been playing at 480i/p for a while, it's not that bad.
In fact, if you look at some Statistics, you'd unpleasantly note that a majority of 360/Ps3 owners are running 480i.

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ion666 - 599 days 5 hours ago

1.14 - yes finally

i get to play uncharted on wii.i always said motorstorm looked just the wii offroad game

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SlappyMcTaint - 599 days 1 hour ago

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in their defense: think of what they can do at that lowly 640x480 resolution. Imagine the COD4 engine running at that resolution -you'd have 3x the framerate and way more things going on -at the expense of visual detail...

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Snipes1616 - 599 days 1 hour ago

1.16 - If you read the interview at IGN

You would see that this guy never promised PS3 visuals. He said (quoted from IGN) "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title." LOOKS not is. I own a Wii this is great news. I also know the Wii can't push nearly as many polygons as the 360 or PS3. I do however know that real time normal and bump mapping can make up for many polygons if used correctly. Until now, devs have said the Wii can't process these effects or use shaders. Unless this is a joke, High Voltage has found a way to do these things on Wii. Two things: One, this is great info for any hardcore gamer; a 3rd party dev actually takes hardcore gaming on the Wii seriously. Two, the magnitude of these effects are not possible in as great amounts as the other two consoles so stop hating if you are.

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jadenkorri - 599 days ago

1.17 - if wii can do that

then could u imagine this on the ps3 or Wii, let alone the psp or DS...be interesting to see..see it to believe it...

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gaffyh - 598 days 14 hours ago

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Lol. OK whatever you say.

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somethingSQUISHY - 598 days 12 hours ago

1.19 - @1.13

I think you completely missed my point. The dev's claim was the ability to achieve PS3-like graphics on the Wii. The problem with that is, the Wii outputs in a maximum resolution of 480p. Comparing that to Uncharted/UT3 running in 720p or GT5: Prologue running in 1080p is like comparing a magic marker drawing to a Pixar CGI animation.

My point being, it's not like 480p doesn't look good, but true-HD is on a whole other level which can't physically be touched by a Wii.

Stop taking facts personally, dude.

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harry190 - 599 days 11 hours ago

2 - Ok,so if you use that engine

for the PS3 and Xbox360 what happens.....they explode because they can't handle it.....

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Hamadzedan - 598 days 18 hours ago

2.1 - Poulshit...

yes Wii is a Poulshit

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PR0F3TA - 598 days 18 hours ago

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bro its a typo... not PS3 its PSP.

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jtucker78 - 599 days 11 hours ago

3 - Better than the average Wii game but....

...it still looks like a Wii game.

If you look at the preview images of "The Conduit" on youtube, it doesn't really look much better than Metroid 3.

Some screenshots look OK, but there is no way you'd mistake the game for PS3 or 360.

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Bazookajoe_83 - 599 days 11 hours ago

4 - Hahahaha

That was funny, i wonder if he´s serious...

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Alcohog - 599 days 11 hours ago

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So now there is magic code that makes hardware more powerful? Amazing!

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MK_Red - 599 days 11 hours ago

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lol, nice joke. If an engine is so powerfull to run PS3 games on Wii then it can run PS4 games on PS3.
And seriously, they should have at least said visuals of original Xbox. Wii's best looking game, Super Mario Galaxy is still way behind average looking 360 and PS3 games in terms of polygon and technical elements (Though artwise, SMG rocks).

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Palodios - 599 days 11 hours ago

7 - hmm...

Remember the old urban legend about Team Ninja overusing an xbox dev kit, and it enevitably burst into flames?

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nutjuice - 599 days 11 hours ago

8 - he's not just smoking it

he's eating the crack

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ExgamerLegends - 599 days 11 hours ago

9 - Despite the fact that i doubt the hell out of this.

....that's it...i just doubt the hell out of it.

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Douchebaggery - 599 days 11 hours ago

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Well Quake Wars graphics maybe

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meepmoopmeep - 599 days 11 hours ago

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gamers will just love 1-5fps for their games.

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heyheyhey - 599 days 10 hours ago

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"GTA4: The Slideshow Edition"

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DRUDOG - 599 days ago

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Can you imagine what Myst would look like!?! Detail unseen since the Saturn version. :P

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thehitman - 599 days 11 hours ago

12 - actually

It looks possible they dont look amazing and their top notch graphics may look like a game like resistence when it first came out I HIGHLY doubt that they can fit all that detail on a wii disc.

They prove me wrong I may just pick up a wii

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Voiceofreason - 599 days 10 hours ago

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What are you smoking? If they can fit it in a dvd for 360 than it will work on a DVD for Wii. Unless of course you are so misinformed that you think Wii doesnt have a dvd drive.

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calgaryfan13 - 599 days 6 hours ago

12.2 - Erroneous

You're correct that both the Wii and 360 use DVDs, so hypothetically they can both fit a game that is say, 8 GB in size, but the Wii hardware is far inferior to that of the 360 or PS3, and it cannot output visuals greater than 480p, and therefore no Wii game will ever look even close to that of a 360 or PS3 title. Sure this engine is probably great, but there are these little things you have to get past, they're called hardware limitations. Think what this engine could do on a higher-end console.

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misterssippi - 598 days 21 hours ago

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thing about it is, the wii hardware cannot make HD graphics. Its not built to do it and the technology isnt in the box. So it will never have PS360 visuals.

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PirateThom - 599 days 11 hours ago

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Wii hasn't even surpassed the XBox in terms of visuals, it's a physical impossibility for it to surpass the PS3/360 because the hardware just isn't there.

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zerolinkgannon - 599 days 11 hours ago

14 - I'd say..

That maybe they're aiming for early ps3 titles...in standard def. Ya know...like a ps3 game on a standard t.v, not H.D. But its the wii, so good luck to them. Least they're trying to tap the wii''s power unlike most devs out there.---Zerolink

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ItsDubC - 599 days 11 hours ago

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The Conduit does look very good, and I will be more than satisfied if it produces graphics on par w/ Doom 3 for the Xbox. Promising PS3 visuals tho has more to do w/ generating hype IMHO, but I remain optimistic. To be honest tho, even if it did succeed in producing graphics comparable to the PS3, ppl would still hate on the Wii.

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jkhan - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Well engine no matter how good, needs a hardware to run on. Now I doubt wii hardware is capable producing ps3 quality gfx. But if something like this could have been achieved by software engine don't you think the market of nvidia or ati would have died?

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Leathersoup - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Unfortunately every game has to be contained in a room the size of the demo or the engine can't handle it. :P

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THUNDERMARE - 599 days 10 hours ago

20 - So....

Logically, if the gimp machine like Wii can out put graphic comparable to the PS3/360 then that's mean if we use the same engine on the PS3/360 we will get graphic of PS4/720???
Figure it.....

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Voiceofreason - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Considering the PS3 is a gimped console as well I dont really see the problem.

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flambeau - 599 days 4 hours ago

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the 360 is just as gimped.At least all the ps3's have hard drives that are upgradeable.

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SL1M DADDY - 599 days 10 hours ago

21 - So what...

Now we will get another Cooking With Mama that looks as good as Uncharted or Gears? Cooking with Mam never looked better!

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bym051d - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Nice graphics, no AI, no gameplay... no HD.

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Fishy Fingers - 599 days 11 hours ago

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I'll believe it when I see it.

Also, if these guys can squeeze those visuals out of a Wii, they need to step up to the PS3/360.

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Marlec - 599 days 10 hours ago

1.1 - yep

All these so called wonderful effects running at a stunning 480p :/

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perils - 599 days 10 hours ago

1.2 - 1,2.1

unlucky fishy. now you have to put up with the height of douchebaggery in the zone that dare not speak its name! (whispers) the open zone. good luck!

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BrianC6234 - 599 days 7 hours ago

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If they spend a few years on this maybe they can do it. The only problem is the PS3 graphics they'll end up with are the first generation graphics. And the Wii will already be dead and buried. So why bother?

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trikster40 - 599 days 5 hours ago

1.4 - LOl I saw the "amazing" tech demo

And it looked barely like a PS2 game. Somebody REALLY needs to quit selling those devs crack. Cocaine is a helluva drug!

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Jason 360 - 599 days 11 hours ago

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OMG the PS3 sucks so bad that the Wii is catching up to it.

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Fishy Fingers - 599 days 11 hours ago

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If you read it, you see that they actually imply 360 and PS3. PS3 was probably used in the headline to get more attention as its considered to be the most "powerful" console.

EDIT: Been banned to this zone for a month so I'm gonna have to get used to this s**t.

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Amp - 599 days 11 hours ago

2.2 - Thanks Fishy

:)

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Jason 360 - 599 days 11 hours ago

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The PS3 still hasn't caught up with the 360.

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Iron Man 2 - 599 days 10 hours ago

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Uncharted:Drake's Fortune on PLAYSTATION®3 makes any Xbox 360 game look last-gen:P

Shane Kim will shoot himself in the head the day Nintendo Wii gets next-gen graphics,but have no fear Xbox slaves,that won't be happening any time soon.

$hane

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Marlec - 599 days 10 hours ago

2.5 - Yea right Jason

How did you come to that conclusion ?? by comparing Forza2 with GT5 Prologue i suppose, i bet you think Forza is better looking dont you!!

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Ali_The_Brit - 599 days 10 hours ago

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it ment both consoles, and you do know the wii is still out selling the 360 aswell dont you dumbsh!t?

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heyheyhey - 599 days 10 hours ago

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hmmm, Uncharted much?

Heavenly Sword characters on screen much?

Lair (yes everything side, Lair looks awesome) much? and Lair characters on screen much?

GT5p photo-realistic graphics much? outdoing every racing game on 360

hell, even Motorstorm looks better than most things on the 360

all you've got is Gears

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Vito_corleone - 599 days 9 hours ago

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Fishy etc.. Don't bother, u can't argue with retards =)

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trikster40 - 599 days 5 hours ago

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Not even Gears. Unreal Tournament 3 runs on the same engine and runs smoother i.e. no framerate drops like every UE3 engine game on 360.

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OLD MAN - 599 days 11 hours ago

3 - jason 360

180 is slowing down and has no games left, and ps3 has been out less than 2 years, 180 is a joke.

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hack6464 - 599 days 10 hours ago

3.2 - POOS3 YOU ARE A FÜCKING JOKE

LEARN HOW TO MAKE SENSE. GET OFF THAT KUSH!!!

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Tony Scarboni - 599 days 10 hours ago

4 - 360 is just a glorified PC

I laugh at people who wasted their money on a 360. You could have upgraded your PC w/ that 400$ and it would have smoked an XBOX. Not to mention you could still play Bioshock, Gears, MassEffect, Halo, etc. etc.

In terms of raw power, 360 could never catch up to PS3. PS3 has been used to simulate 2 black holes colliding. Companies use PS3 for its networking capabilities. Folding@home has proven that 10,000 PS3's can process what it takes 250000s PCs to process.

You're just a sheep kid. You jumped on the bandwagon too soon. You thought because Sony didn't come out, guns blazing in the console war that was a sign of weakness. Truth is, Sony doesn't need to waste money fighting a war. They are the sure winner. Now that they finally stopped developing for the PS2 they are focusing on the PS3, and they have a hell of a lot more titles slated for the future than M$.

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rawd - 599 days 10 hours ago

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BUT IF YOU BUY GAYLO YOU GET A COOL HELMET

*ROCK AND ROLL FACE* \m/ \m/

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Sir Ken Kutaragi 1 - 599 days 10 hours ago

5 - New Wii game engine promises PS3 visuals

BEST Joke i've heard all year!!! ;-D
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rawd - 599 days 10 hours ago

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I owned a Wii before, when it was called a SNES

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Tony Scarboni - 599 days 10 hours ago

6 - You should really be worried about Nintendo

Now that nintendo is selling like hotcakes, they could easily afford to bankroll a console in the next gen that could be just as powerful as anything MS or Sony has to offer.

Everyone said that even though Wii sells hardware its software that counts, and that is were the Wii would fail. Well, geuss what, Wii still moves double the Software as 360 or PS3(not including PS2 or PSP of course).

If the Wii could keep up this pace it could up the ante with the next wave of consoles and dominate.

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Marlec - 599 days 10 hours ago

6.1 - Nintendo is a joke

A Wii is just a tweaked Gamecube and the Gamecube was a huge flop but now its a hit ?? the whole damn system is an illusion, ppl think the Wii-mote is cool but its not, its very unprecise, ppl think that the mote will allow you to act a real life moves but it simply doesnt.

Aslong as the Wii is selling like crazy to numbskulls nintendo wont be spending 100`s million on a new machine, why should they ? they are laughing all the way to the bank

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Jamaicangmr - 599 days 10 hours ago

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I'd file this under the lockness monster and other myths. Bring me video or atleast photo proof and then i'll even bother reading the article.

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Whoooop - 599 days 10 hours ago

9 - lol

Poor bots are so outnumbered...

The saddest part is that they are trying to fight the inevitable for a console which has basically nothing left in it.

Crappy exclusives from now on, maximized hardware (all games looked the same after Gears 1), Horrendous reliability, halt in sales (most bots already bought the system)...... you name it.

:)

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timmyrulz - 599 days 9 hours ago

9.1 - Oh im sorry

i thought this article was about the wii, not comparing the ps3 to an xbox 360, you say that the 360 has nothing left, yet it has the best games to date, it still has a strong catalogue due out (might not be as many as the ps3 in terms of exclusives but nobody knows how good these games will be until they are actually released and reviewed, i.e lair, folklore,heavenly sword and even rachet and clank to an extent all big flops), the 360 also has a far superior live service, DLC no waiting and second hash multiplats, the 360 is the devs choice, the gamers choice and its an exremley good system

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GiantEnemyCrab - 599 days 3 hours ago

9.2 - Don't mind Whoop

he is just another butthurt fishhead.

Kojima (the fishhead GOD) says the POS3 is already maxxed out, subpar online service, lack of PSN titles, lack of interest from devs(less betas and demos, crappy multiplatform games), problems with online betas, DRE blu-ray problems, a joke of an install base compared to the 360 and Wii from the once console leader, feature lacking(no XMB, soundtracks, unified gaming system), poor software library. I will stop there.

Since we are suddenly making this into a PS3 vs 360 argument.

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RAM MAGNUMS - 599 days 10 hours ago

10 - BLU-RAY OR RED LIGHT?

You decide.
Im sure that the wii can get better graphics because I saw a few screenshots of Star Wars the force unleashed for nintendo & thought they were cool for kids & casuals.
Im Hoping Nintendo learns from everyone & Always have a place in video games

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Xiru - 599 days 9 hours ago

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haha, this post made my day. There is NO WAY in a blue moon that the Wii can even come close to the worst looking game on the PS3. The gpu's are so drastically different. Not to mention the ram and cpu. I can't wait to see this game so I can laugh at it.

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Rapture333 - 599 days 6 hours ago

13 - pfft

I doubt it, theyd be working on a few still frames and thats all you can pump out of the wii's processing power. Just look how stunning games like Gears of war 2 and Metal gear solid 4 are coming out to be. PS3 + 360 > wii

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brothersimon - 599 days 6 hours ago

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well comparing to ps3 graphics u aint gonna get much

they should be comparing to 360 if they want good graphics. :(

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wass007 - 599 days 5 hours ago

14.1 - PS3 FTW!!!!

Yup wii games are comparable to halo 3 but never to uncharted drakes fortune

Halo 3:
http://xbox360media.ign.com...

Uncharted Drakes Fortune:
http://image.com.com/gamesp...

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robbo918 - 599 days 1 hour ago

14.3 - BrotherSimon and the others who can't read

The article says it supposedly is as good as....X360 and PS3...not just one system. This is stupid overall because the Wii cannot make a game to the graphic level of X360 nor PS3 IMO, we shall see, but at least READ the article before posting.

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Xlll - 598 days 22 hours ago

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Simon owned himself and every Xbot here all at the same time. Good job! cookie for you.

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PR0NE - 598 days 13 hours ago

14.5 -

got yourself owned

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LevDog - 599 days 5 hours ago

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HAHAHA BS making another BS comment..

If Wii owners are actually excited about those graphics, they shouldnt be.. While the water looks "OK" at best.. It is nothing special.. Thats Ps2 quality.. Do people not understand that Uncharted (console games best looking game) is only using 20% of Ps3 power, and is a First Gen game..

Wii can never touch that, they might be able to get to first gen 360 games but thats about it

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JBaby343 - 599 days 5 hours ago

16 - LOL Yeah Right

The Wii can't even reproduce 360 graphics much less PS3 graphics. This post is just funny.

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OJ_juice - 599 days 5 hours ago

17 - This will not work

because my cell phone has more RAM then my Wii.

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ELite_Ghost - 599 days 5 hours ago

18 -

its gonna have armored core graphics at the max

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Dmack79 - 599 days 4 hours ago

19 - Bad move Nintendo

I wonder how much this will jack up the price. $$

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wiizy - 599 days 3 hours ago

20 - lol

on par or better then galaxy and im more then happy... wii is about innovation and thats where it wins , nice graphics can only help

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The Closing - 597 days 5 hours ago

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If by innovation you mean standing still then ya that makes perfect sense.

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Mars Attacker - 599 days 3 hours ago

21 -

They left out the part where he said:

The check is in the mail
I'll still love you in the morning
Pregnant women are beautiful

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