Four Problems Facing the Wii in 2008: #4 - Innovation and Potential

Dlacy13g - 683 days 2 hours ago

"We really can’t stress enough that the Wii is not doomed in any sense of the word; if anything it has the brightest lineup this year out of any other consoles,,,"

I found this comment to be a bit ....well, just misguided. I could be wrong...but I just dont see that "bright" future. Brawl and Kart....anything else to really look forward to this year?

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hotrider12 - 683 days ago

why cant nintendo make a new contra game?? or break out with some classic games up graded

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squallsoft - 683 days ago

... I really don't see the appeal of the wii's controlls. I've had extensive play time with teh console at my friends house (he just recently sold it to get a ps3), and i dont see how its controlls are any more innovative than Xbox Live, PSN or Eye of Judgement on PS3 (among other PSEye games. And to top that all off, I think HD Media is the biggest innovation in this generation (Blu-Ray).

Slap those Wii controlls onto a system as powerfull as 360 and PS3, and include Blu Ray, then lets talk...

Mabey next time Nintendo...

Of course this is my opinion so feel free disagree with justifaction!

-Squall

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bigjclassic - 683 days ago

NMH- so far an excellent game.
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii
WiiFit
Baroque
Fatal Frame 4
Star Wars Unleashed-feels that this could be the best version.
Tales of Symphonia 2
Dragon Quest Swords
Okami
Rygar
Samba De Amigo
Final Fantasy CC: CB

not bad if you ask me.

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OC Shock Value - 682 days 23 hours ago

People need to get over this Wii is doomed crap.. if anyone should be worried its the xbox 360.. other then a few multiplats and recycled sports, racing or whatever.. what are they bringin 2 the table in 08 that a PS3 game of the same type cant crush??? Atleast nintendo has and will have Un RivalD franchises.. what does MS have?? Halo is now Finished.. and now their games along with their scores are on a decline..

Sony and nintendo are so different from eachother that ther can have their own crowds..

MS is tryna fight sonys fans and exclusive games from them.. and with only 16 million 360s in over 2 years.. They are not doin a good job..

So with that said.. it will be cool 2 own a PS3 and Wii.. 360 will become the odd man out.. its already beginning to look like a Poor mans PS3.. with a bunch of quickly made up titles to try 2 compete with sonys major franchises.. i guess Americans are the only people that cant see this..

PS3 VS 360 = New Jordans vs Payless Shoe

By The Way.. MS needs 2 give Rare back to nintendo because they have done NOTHING with that Legendary company but produce flops... They better not screw over Banjo Kazooi and Killer Instinct.. if they ever make 1 on there considering theyre D pad is HORRIBLE on Fighters

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bigjclassic - 682 days 23 hours ago

Besides Kameo, everything else they made was horrid since the buy-out.
Long live Free Radical

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bigjclassic - 682 days 23 hours ago

THE GAMING MEDIA itself!!
They need to leave the Wii alone. Go pick on the PSP its getting murdered by the DS.

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Ilchymis - 682 days 23 hours ago

Thanks for all the comments and discussion about my little quartet of articles! I'm glad to see my ideas sparking discussion, regardless of whether or not you agree with a word I say. It's neat to see people talking about my ramblings, so thank you all for that.

Firstly, I wanted to say that I added that little epilogue at the end to discuss the "sky-falling" quotient of gamers that think the Wii is the bringer of the gaming apocalypse. I think the system is making great strides in coming out of its casual shell and expanding its horizons for the upcoming year. I'm extremely excited about a good amount of games for the upcoming year (Dlacy - click that NeoGAF thread I linked to a few times in the articles!), more so than I can say for the other consoles out right now. I know that's completely my opinion, and please don't kill me for it, but I can't wait to see Opoona, Mario Kart, Okami, Dragon Quest Swords, Samba de Amigo, Baroque, Tales of Symphonia, Brawl, and even Wii Music (if it has a save feature, or else it will be doomed to Electroplankton's obscurity), in addition to a few other random games I'll probably rent first.

I think the motion controls are wonderful. SquallSoft, I think you should give Zack and Wiki a try to see how the motion controls can be done right. I think Capcom really nailed the controls and made playing the game feel new and refreshing, and I was even siding with you to a certain extent about the controls until I played it. Great game.

Desolationstorm, your comment about the Wii coming out of nowhere has a good amount of truth to it, but keep in mind the low development costs for the Wii are a great way for publishers to take a chance and make some cash. I think the Wii will steadily branch away from the sequels and cash-ins over time, but like you said, it's going to be a lot of those random games catching gamers' eyes over the next year. I like the feeling of finding a rare gem myself, so I can't complain too much.

Thanks again for the feedback, everyone. It's greatly appreciated.

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squallsoft - 682 days 1 hour ago

For one, I know Xbox live was around last gen, but not like how it is today. And I must stress the fact that i wasn't calling the wii's controls counter innovative, but i was saying that i think there are more important innovations going on this gen. The expansion of Xbox live and PSN is one of them. Last gen, having patches for console games was unheard of. This gen it is now common place. That is a MAJOR change. Motion controls have also been around for awhile also. that doesn't make them any less innovative today. Another thing: the importance of blu ray.

Lets take a look back in time for a moment to the days of the transition between PSone and PS2. When the PlayStation 2 first came out, a lot of games were still being written on standard CD=Roms. but as the generation wore on and developers started to tap the potential of the system, it slowly became less and less feasible to put games on the old medium. that's why once we got about 2 years into the ps2/xbox generation, almost EVERY game was on a DVD. you have to understand, that the transition from CD=ROM to DVD was very cost effective for manufacturers. why put a game on 2 CD-Roms when u can fit it on one DVD for almost half the cost (2 CD-Roms cost almost double the cost of 1 DVD). the same can be said today. as the price of blu-ray discs drop, the same equation will begin to apply (1 Blu Ray disc cost almost half as much as 2 DVDs). In fact, you can see PROOF of concept by looking at the 360 exclusive title: Lost Odyssey. I believe that comes on 3 or 4 DVDs if I'm not mistaken, and as a result costs MORE than a standard game. Same thing rang true for PSone titles that were multi-disc. The reason we didn't see more multi Cd-ROM PS2 games, is because the manufacturers moved on to DVD. the same will be true for this gen as more developers move to Blu-ray as they slowly tap more and more power of the next gen consoles. remember, higher texture resolution, higher quality sound and all the bells and whistles that are associated with those, are gonna start to take up more and more disc space. That is why moving to HD discs is the most important innovation of this gen. more so than controls. however, THE WII'S CONTROLS ARE INNOVATIVE also. hence, my last remark: Slap those Wii controlls onto a system as powerfull as 360 and PS3, and include Blu Ray, then lets talk...

-Squall

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wiizy - 683 days 1 hour ago

the wii is innovation and alot of innovative games are coming in 08.. wii fit, pes2008 from konami and more

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OC Shock Value - 682 days 23 hours ago

yea multiplats are better on 360/PS3 so what.. thats why you get both PSWii..

Because if you dont have a Wii then guess what.. You missed out on 3 of the greatest, highest rated games last year..
Mario Galaxy
Zelda TP
Metroid Prime 3
All Exclusive and NEVER going the way of DMC4.. To Deny yourself such greatness for no reason is sad on YOUR part.. Now you haters are on your way to miss SSBB which already scored a 10.. then Mario Kart.. the best arcade racer 2 date.. do u really wanna do that?

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