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Patcher - "Wii's momentum will last until the Playstation 3 is under $300" - EGM

Sonycowboy on NeoGaf (who brought you the latest NPD numbers), quotes a few key statements in an interview that EGM had with Michael Pachter, in the current issue out in newstands.

"I think the Wii momentum will last until the Playstation 3 is under $300, so another year"

"2008 is definitely Sony's year. And I'd throw Grand Theft Auto IV into the mix, given that it's considered a PS2 owner's [franchise]. Also, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue should sell some consoles.."

"I think Microsoft's first party lineup is weakning, but I think that exclusives like Splinter Cell: Conviction will keep them going for another year. They also have the resources to sign third party exclusives."'

-From Decision 08 article in this month's EGM

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LightningPS3 - 700 days 4 hours ago

1 - hahaha

everyone can see it! Except 360 fanboys.

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toughNAME - 700 days 4 hours ago

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What is this...account number 4 nasim?

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Snukadaman - 700 days 2 hours ago

1.2 - No..this aint nasim...

Im thinking this is that lightning kid...if you look at his posts he seems quite bipolar..just like that lightning kid...nasim is playing it slick...I seen some of his other accounts where he is trying too stay on the fence with both consoles.....but the problem is...you can see his style clearly.

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Cwalat - 700 days 1 hour ago

1.3 - lol

300$ for PS3 that would fu**in tear apart 360

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mikeslemonade - 699 days 22 hours ago

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If he meant a $299.99 PS3, the Wii by then would probably just have met the demand. That price drop could happen September next year for PS3 and the Wii in major cities through summer could still be sold out. And GTA4 will help both systems pretty much equally. I'm pretty sure Microsoft will aggressively try to push it with the "jump in" ad campaign.

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Hatchetforce - 699 days 21 hours ago

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Woohoo! I love Splinter Cell. But the the fact is a game that doesn't appeal to most 360 players isn't going to keep the console on top.

Look at Pachter's track record. Monkey's at the zoo throwing their excrement at a list od possibilities have a better record.

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ravinash - 700 days ago

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I don't think Wii needs to worry too much about Sony to the number of consoles sold because each console sells to a very different market.
Wii is favoured more by casual gamers because they see this its control system is based on movement and this probably give more of a natural feel for people not used to controllers. plus the games are very simple (games like Wii sports for example) and are more bite size which seems better for people who don't spend hours playing games.
it also appears more social, as all the ads show the family all playing together at the same time.
Consoles like 360 and PS3 have more of an image of FPS and solo players games....most social games are playing on line where the other people are not in the room with you. And they also appear more technical, which probably scares a lot of people away.
I’m sure games like Little Big Planet will start cracking into the other market, and there will be Wii users who will start getting more into games but want something more challenging and might start looking at 360 and PS3 for something else.
But on the whole Wii will do fine.

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Cyrus365 - 700 days 4 hours ago

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It's too bad GTA IV isn't on PS2, it's a multi-plat and too boot, I'm sure MS will market to get hte complete (EXTRA/bonus) missions, the only way to go is with 360 and 360's version of GTA IV.

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LightningPS3 - 700 days 4 hours ago

3.1 - that's a good point

But I just don't know what that extra content is, or how it figures into the game. So I can't agree or disagree on whether it will have big impact or not.

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Robocod - 700 days 3 hours ago

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I really aint sure that the extra content on GTA4 for 360 is a system seller. There is not enough info on it at the moment but it will have to be pretty special for it to move consoles to gamers who maybe were not thinking of getting a 360 anyway.

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Exhaust - 699 days 21 hours ago

3.3 - We don't even know much about the core retail version of GTA IV yet..

That's how Rockstar works. To say the DLC won't have much of an impact because little is known about isn't really realistic. Once the retail game ships I expect a massive marketing push my MS to hype the DLC. To say that the exclusive DLC won't have a favorable impact on the 360 is being a blind fanboy.

I own all 3 systems so I'm not a 360 fanboy. I'm a Rockstar GTA fanboy to the point I bought the special edition 360 version and I'm gameflying the PS3 version just so I can compare. Hardcore fans will by the 360 version because they don't want to miss any GTA IV goodness. Even if the 360 was just getting an extra car or something I'd still buy the 360 version.

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Prismo_Fillusion - 700 days 3 hours ago

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As someone who owns ***only*** a Wii...

I agree with Pachter's statement.

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Cyrus365 - 700 days 3 hours ago

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That patcher throwing out some wild statements like:

"I think Microsoft's first party lineup is weakning, but I think that exclusives like Splinter Cell: Conviction will keep them going for another year. They also have the resources to sign third party exclusives"

Basically hedging his bet, saying they have a weak first party lineup, but any second with their resources can buy up exclusives, and that'll it keep going...

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Robearboy - 700 days 3 hours ago

6 - The wii's momentum

Will last until most of the people playing it will die of old age or will grow up and buy an xbox 360 or a PS3

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power of Green - 700 days 3 hours ago

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Almost not even worth commenting on.

Dude has no real understanding of the industry(almost like a Superficial understanding based from media hype rather than reality .

Splinter Cell is just one title out of many thats going to be released in the future due to the unstoppable success the 360's been showing.

This guy thinks devs have seen the money other devs are making and they're just going to drop the 360 lol, MSFT doesn't need to stress about 1st party titles all they have to do is prove theres no need to develope on other platforms.

Devs are probably lined up at MSFT's office. lol

PS3 under $300 will be too late.

Wii's momentum may never die because its taking back the casual consumer bulk Nintendo once had.

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Expy - 700 days 3 hours ago

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You've got it all wrong...

Devs aren't lined up at Microsoft's office....

Microsoft is lined up at developers' offices with bags of cash.

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Mr Marbles - 700 days 2 hours ago

7.2 - Wow

all those disagrees and your the only one making sense.

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Iron Man 2 - 700 days 2 hours ago

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Says the guy who is hyping up Huxley like a b*tch,Huxley looks like total garbage and the PC version will still be better

Anyways,I do believe another PS3 pricecut would do wonders for both Sony and the PS3,and at $300 the PS3 would even outsell the Xbox 360 in North America,it's only a matter of time,as soon as the juggernauts(MGS4,KZ2,LBP etc.)start kicking in as the year goes on,the PS3 will start selling very well and will outsell the Xbox 360 and maybe even the Nintendo Wii on a monthly basis,now just imagine the PS3 $100 cheaper,wow!:)

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felman87 - 700 days 1 hour ago

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Devs are lining up at Nintendo, not MS

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jctoyou - 700 days 1 hour ago

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hey power why do u think over 170 people ignore you?just be a gamer and stop being such a troll u are so boring and predictable

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robbo918 - 699 days 9 hours ago

7.6 - poor PoG

"Dude has no real understanding of the industry(almost like a Superficial understanding based from media hype rather than reality ."

I would safely gamble his understanding of the industry is a tad more credible than yours, yet you act like your word is gospel about the M$ world you live in.

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mighty_douche - 700 days 3 hours ago

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Im sorry, but when i become a company exec in one of said consoles ill actually give a sh!t about sales figures and whos number 1.

Until then, meh.....

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Eretik - 700 days 2 hours ago

9 - Who is Michael Pachter?

Sony funboy? "Of Friends God Save Me, That From Enemies I Save Myself." Sony is loosing a lots of money on every sold PS3 and this Patchet proposes to decrease price for hardware again? Crazy...

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superaktieboy - 700 days 2 hours ago

9.1 - i quite agree with you

well yeah.. since the first time i heard about patcher i thought he was a Sony fanboy (and the biggest one ever).. but Sony is not loosing a lot of money anymore as the production cost of a PS3 (40GB) is halved to $400 so there is no money to loose (or at least not that much)

but i agree that Patcher is a Sony fanboy :P

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power of Green - 700 days 2 hours ago

10 - Robocod

They're going to be Oblivion huge man. Friggin Episodes are going to as long as GeoW and Heavenly Sword.

If for some reason a Consumer buys a console for GTA4 its not going to be the PS3.

You say The content isn't going to be enough and I say neither is the BS Patcher talking about. lol

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Robocod - 700 days 2 hours ago

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I never said i agree with his comments i just dont think that DLC for a game is a system seller in itself.

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robbo918 - 699 days 9 hours ago

10.2 - Highly doubt it

PoG I seriously doubt the extra content is going to be that massive, but I don't know and oddly NEITHER DO YOU! I love how anything you say is gospel but if you didn't say it or its against M$ and Billy you call it a lie or wrong. Interesting world you live in. I am a Sony fan I admit it, but I also admit things like Fable 2 is probably going to be incredible, that Bioshock is pretty cool too (but I can still play them since I have a pc also), and that X360 is a pretty powerful machine...just not as powerful as PS3.

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PopEmUp - 699 days 5 hours ago

10.3 - The extra contrent

can be system seller but only if Microsoft can find a way to delivers it to the consumers, but I would think it unlikely;y, cause most people who play GTA are more familiar with the playstation system this mean most ps2 owners that thinking of moving to the next gen system are more likely to buy a PS3 over a 360.
BTW with an average consumers they would have no clue and would had no ideas that there any differences between both version of the game, cause they have not realize there were an extra content for the 360 version but however this content maybe will have to make a separate purchases then who would really care about the extra content then?

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power of Green - 700 days 2 hours ago

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Its going to be a painful transition to reality this year as Sony fanboys realise the hyped up 2008 year for the PS3 isn't going to oushine anybody.

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ar - 700 days 2 hours ago

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Who cares about fanboys? The only thing they do is whine and don't think games that aren't released on there "platform" are good.

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Equinoxe_7 - 700 days 2 hours ago

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POG

It won't help you retype your crap againg and again.

The Playstation 3 lineup seems better than Xbox360, prove me wrong, naah you won't get MGS4, money can't buy you everything.

Open up POG, the world is bigger than U.S.A and more beutifull

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Mr Marbles - 700 days 2 hours ago

11.3 - POG is right

PS3 fans will be hurting in November when they realise they were strung along yet another year, you guys have got to wake up, there is no way the 360 does not take all after the year of game sales it just saw in 2007, developers would be insane to ignore all that potential cash. There WILL be games on 360 forever, and many may be exclusives, PS3 fans should reevaluate their loyalties if they want to play games, and Patcher needs to stop listening to the media hype and use his brain, this guy is supposed to be a professional yet he keeps just regurgitating PS3 fanboy rhetoric.

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switch-it - 700 days 2 hours ago

11.4 - @ Mr Marbles

Wow, thats the second time you've kissed POG's a$$ in the samme newsstory. Jesus man

Edit: lol, 2 disagrees. I guess thats from POG and Mr Marbles!? :)

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ynot69 - 700 days 1 hour ago

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yes it is also going to be hard to sit and play games on my PS3 while i have to listen to my mate whine about his 360 being away for repair again

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robbo918 - 699 days 9 hours ago

11.6 - Wrong

IMO its going to be a great year watching PoG and Mr.Marbles cry all year long as the X360 continues to be outsold worldwide by PS3 and soon in the US. Yeah yeah its just my opinion but heck PoG believes everything he says is true (and any other Xbot friend of his), plus the PS3 outselling currently isn't just an opinion its FACT, ask Billy what that is PoG.

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eagle21 - 700 days 2 hours ago

12 - This man is smarter than most think.

He is seeing the big picture, he never once suggest failure, only "momentum".

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ynot69 - 700 days 1 hour ago

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funny how the unreal engine looks and runs better on the PS3 then hey. even Mark Rein can say that. open your eyes

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Ko_Uraki - 700 days 2 hours ago

14 - Patcher is right

The PS3 will sell very well at the price of $25. Maybe they can give PS3 games with the Happy Meal too.

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Anilom - 700 days 1 hour ago

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mark my words, ps3 will surpass the 360 crap. even though i am an american and i support american made products, the only thing about the 360 that is american is the name.
i fixed several of these consoles already and the products are all made in china.
you can bust my bubble all you want, but i dont frakin care. i know most of you will end up buying the ps3 when it comes down in price, and you will see what you have been missing.

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Mr Marbles - 700 days 1 hour ago

15.1 - Well

alot of Americans worked very hard to design and make the 360 what it is today. They work hard to keep XBL going and to bring us all the great games we get on 360 first, you should be ashamed for supporting a Japanese console that doesn't even see the American market as its first priority. At least MS makes the U.S. it's priority.

Disgrace to this great nation folks like you.

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ynot69 - 700 days 1 hour ago

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Yes americans did work hard for a 33% failure rate, that even in it's second generation of hardware has not been resolved. feel proud america, for the half arsed job you did with the hardware. by the way i have a 360 and was extremely disappointed when it RROD on me (launch console). and also don't disagree because you know the new falcon chipset is still RRODing.

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ar - 700 days 1 hour ago

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Choosing products by their origin is probably one of the worst things to do. You are likely to miss out on much better products then.
E.g. if I was to by a car today I probably would only have one manufacture to go by. Koenigsegg. I'm not saying they make bad cars, but the price isn't worth it.

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ravinash - 700 days ago

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Ummmm....Mr Marbles, do I need to remind you that most of us don't live in America.
The rest of us are not here to prop up you countries industries you know.
I'm all for getting behind your country and being proud, but people should be free to chose the console and games that are right for them.

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ynot69 - 700 days ago

16 - @ AR

truth be told i think they all have some penned up agression towards japan. you know how it is. but i see tha PS3 as a far better investment and a true media hub. works great on my 250 inck panasonic HD projector. neck breaking stuff...

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ar - 700 days ago

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250"! O_O
I'm guessing you have a huge distance between the projector and screen.

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ynot69 - 700 days ago

17 - @AR

Na that is only adjusted to about two thirds of the size it can go from where it is positioned. beautiful and clear too. especially when playing bluray.

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LanRanger - 699 days 20 hours ago

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I call bulls**t. A 250" screen would require a wall 19 feet long by 11' high to project on. If you're not a liar then you're an idiot. To achieve the THX recommended 36 degree field of view you'd have to sit 28 feet away from the screen. Sit any closer and you diminish the viewing experience and the image quality starts to break down.

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CrazzyMan - 699 days 23 hours ago

18 - hmm.. that would be interesting..

i wonder, isthere more people casuals who don`t care about graphics, or those who care but only about AMAZING graphics. =)
I mean graphics like in Gran Turismo 5 may appeal to new people, who don`t play games.
Time will show though.

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