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Opinion: PlayStation’s Huge Helldivers 2 Miscalculation First Big Test Post Jim Ryan

Explore the controversy surrounding Helldivers 2 on PC. Learn about PlayStation's decision and the potential consequences for the company.

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OptimusDK31d ago

Sony the savoir of gaming based on comments on n4g.

S2Killinit30d ago

Well, when they are going up against MS, the bar is really low.

FinalFantasyFanatic30d ago

At this point, it's probably better to match them up with Nintendo, I don't think they'll have to worry about Xbox for a long time if ever again.

Rynxie30d ago

Folks, buy starship troopers: extermination for PC. The real bug slaying game! It's also 16 player co-op. Support the federation, not the fake copy.

StormSnooper30d ago

You win stupidest comment of the month.

ChronoJoe30d ago

It’s alright but honestly soo dull compared to Helldivers 2. The systemic design in HD2 makes for a much more interesting game.

anast30d ago

Unfortunately, Starship Troopers isn't a good game. This is usually the case for PC games.

S2Killinit29d ago

Starship troopers doesn't really hold a candle to Helldivers. But, I wouldn’t say its “bad” per se.

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anast30d ago

Even with this issue, I bet you can't name anyone else who is doing it better.

Kaii31d ago

I believe Sony wants to pump up those (monthly active users) stat for their next investor call.

I'd like for people not to support corps so blindly, they don't care about you.

Magatsuhi30d ago

It was supposed to be a requirement from the beginning. Quit being hyperbolic.

No other corporate body would temporarily disable it to allow easier access. Now things are better and peak player count is gone and that makes Sony evil?

People are stupid

S2Killinit30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Yep. Its right there in the article. Sony waived the requirement temporarily, but now people are upset that the requirement to log in is being enforced as previously intended.

arkard30d ago

It was Arrowheads ceo decision to temporarily disable it. Here is his post https://www.reddit.com/r/He...

The only people I agree with in all this are the people that bought in countries that can't get psn accounts. Everyone else either missed the requirement which was their fault or is trying to drum up drama.

--Onilink--30d ago

Why even sell the game in those countries then? If you want to take the conversation to the game having the requirement since the very beginning, then the game should have never been listed by Sony in any country other than the 69 they support.

There is literally 0 reasons that benefit any gamer by being forced to create/link a PSN account, therefore 0 reason to support Sony’s dumb decisions regarding this

anast30d ago

@Oni

You are correct, but it doesn't matter. There is also 0 reason to support Steam but people do anyway.

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Jingsing30d ago

What I've come to realise is PC users hate multiple stores/log in's. How do you square that circle with your politics? Because if everything must be on Steam and under steams system that looks a lot like corporate communism. I don't remember people complaining about multiple stores when you had to get off your backside and go into them to buy your game.

franwex30d ago

Gamers are extremely tribal. I got downvoted to oblivion once for stating that I bought a game on epic store when I could’ve gotten it on steam instead. But it’s the same PC, what difference does it make? I can understand tribalism with consoles somewhat (though it’s getting harder and harder to justify), but when it’s the same hardware, just downloaded from a different website? It’s like getting mad at someone for buying a game on Amazon, when they could’ve bought it at Walmart.

Inverno30d ago

Because buying a game on steam only to be forced to download another launcher to be able to play it is dumb. People shouldn't hafto jump through hoops just to play something they payed for. Last i checked we never bought a game at Best buy but were forced to pass by a GameStop so we can actually play it. Corporate dictatorship is more like it, consumers don't hafto take it.

Christopher30d ago

If this were true, then they would have attacked Ubisoft, EA, Take2, 2k, and more.

FinalFantasyFanatic30d ago

I honestly wish Steam had more competition, I really wanted it to be GOG, but the closest we got was Epic, and even that wasn't a good match against Steam. Steam has its own issues like its hatred towards anime games/Visual Novels, and inconsistent censorship (Who on the approval team OKed "Furry Sex with Hi*ler", but banned 2 out of 3 Dungeon Traveller games?).

I just hate how every publisher has to have their own Store, I don't mind stores that serve games from numerous developers like Steam/GOG/Epic/Etc... But when I need a launcher for Bethesda Games (which died and transferred my games like Doom Eternal to Steam), EA, Rockstar, etc... Each with their own logins and DRM (I love that GOG is DRM free), it gets really annoying. I tolerate it, but it's certainly not ideal, if you're going to have your own storefront, at least don't make me install another launcher, or make it optional (at least JAST/Manga Gamer don't do that to me).

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P_Bomb30d ago

I wonder if they can turn this back, somehow? Probably not if they’re already delisting the game in certain countries. But something has gotta be learnt from all this.

FinalFantasyFanatic30d ago

Some countries don't even have PSN, so obviously they would at least need a solution for those people, or maybe allow some sort of global PSN ID so that they can play.

goldwyncq30d ago

For anyone who wants a Sony monopoly, this is a preview of what you'll get.

derek30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Yes because only Sony has required you to have a free account to play an online game, lol. You guys are ridiculous, this has been a thing for Microsoft and all of their online games for years same for Rockstar, abk, ubisoft etc etc.

NotoriousWhiz30d ago

When did any of those other companies remove a paid game from the accounts of users in 100+ different countries?

derek30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

@Notorious, are you in one of those countries? If not then save your phony moralizing for someone else. None of you guys actually care and for many of these people you fake concern over they've operated under this requirement without issue when they play cod or gta etc. But this phony outrage campaign will cause publishers to reconsider given their legal exposure. And they didn't remove the game from people who have already bought it, they removed it from being sold going forward.

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MrDead30d ago

...a corporation listing to the player base and reversing a decision, that's a good thing

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Helldivers 2 players have destroyed Meridia and now must escape the black hole

The latest Helldivers 2 Major Order is now complete and a black hole now threatens the entire galaxy as The Illuminate story begins.

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Helldivers 2 CM confirms changes to the galactic map are coming

Helldivers 2 community manager Twinbeard has confirmed once again that changes to the galactic war map are coming. This includes ways of improving in-game comms.

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Helldivers 2's Dark Fluid Mission Nearly Made Me Cry

Arrowhead keeps giving me reasons not to play the game I want to play the most

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Magatsuhi1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

"unsure if I wanted to cry, scream dramatically into a pillow"

Seek help if a video game causes you to feel these extremities.

Eonjay1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Naw... the mission was truly frustrating and it made folks feel like not playing because it was so broken in its difficulty. It really felt like they didn't want people to play the game... this lead to the biggest dip in players until they fixed it.

People want to play games because they are fun. They completely removed the fun factor from that mission and then if you beat it, you still got a mission failed.

Broken isn't fun. I completely understand the reaction.

Ironmike22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Game far from broken

Magatsuhi22h ago

It's fine to feel frustrated but to get this upset over it is outrageous. Most normal people just stopped playing it until it was fixed.

Eonjay14h ago

@Ironmike

Not the game... this specific mission. It was well documented by the community and even though Arrowhead did fix it, the general consensus was that we want them to do better testing. The infinite Shriker spawn, the bug holes spawning on the drill, the fact that initially it wasn't possible to get a mission complete. We complained because we are fans and we enjoy playing but we also want the stiff tested too.

repsahj11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Me and my friends always play it in Helldive, and we complete the mission several times. You just need to counter with strategems the drilling sites for bug and bile swarm and the extraction site for shrieker swarm.
You must kill the biles and chargers right away, and always bring stun grenades for small groups attacking the drill. And about the shrieker swarm, 3 people should busy killing them, and 1 with shield to activate the extraction. After that just run in circles and you will be fine with shrieker attacks.

By the way, our levels are 103(me), 96, 89, and 52.

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CrimsonWing691d ago

If a game gets you to that point out of frustration you need to seriously take a step back.

I’ve raged at a game and the way it knocked me out was the person I was seeing at the time literally got up and left the room. I was embarrassed by that and told myself I’d never let that happen again. I’ve never felt like crying out of frustration… that one’s a little beyond me, but if you get to that point, really step back and take a breather.

Ninver18h ago

Time to go outside mate. There's a whole world waiting to be explored.

northpaws16h ago

EMS Strike and few stun grenades got the job done. Keep killings until you are getting close to being overrun, then EMS strike at the drill, then a few grenades to hold them off.

Juancho5115h ago

The dark fluid mission was that most fun I’ve had on that game since launch. It was absolute chaos but it was very well done. I was very sad to see it go, it literally was the only thing i looked forward to playing after work.