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Steam is giving refunds for Helldivers 2 following PlayStation sign-in fiasco

After days of frustration and outcry from the community, some are saying that Steam has given full refunds to those who have bought Helldivers 2, even if they have played more than two hours.

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thorstein15d ago

A player who played, had fun, and moved on can get their money back? 100 hrs in game?

That's just wrong.

It was there at launch and removed temporarily. It's on the TOS.

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Tacoboto15d ago

People who have been allowed to play 100hrs+ are being told now they'll no longer be able to play any hours.

They deserve a refund and publishers that pull this crap deserve any and all backlash.

badz14915d ago

Sony told them they can't play anymore? Really? Aren't you getting mixed up between Sony and Ubi and between Helldivers 2 and The Crew?

--Onilink--14d ago

@badz

He is not, there are 100s of countries where people cannot make a PSN account and a Steam account is possible.

There is a reason why the game was also delisted from almost 200 countries.

Its a stupid move from Sony. They could simply make the PSN link optional (and actually offer something useful with it, like other devs do that use cross saves with it)

Old_Scout13d ago

@--Onilink--

There are 195 countries in the world. Almost 200 is all of them.

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BeHunted15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

You can purchase Helldivers 2 from all over the globe, but you can only play it if you're in one of Sony's 69 approved countries.

Edit: Apparently, Sony has delisted the game in 177 countries.

redknight8015d ago

You read fully their terms of service?! Hahaha...bullshit! If PSN accounts were a launch feature then the game should NOT have been sold in regions where PSN isn't accessible...END OF! What branch of Sony do you work with because you clearly aren't a gamer, haha.

Walalon14d ago

Completely agree @redknight80 , if they know PSN it's gonna be obligatory why sell the game where PSN don't reach...

Rynxie14d ago

Folks, buy starship troopers: extermination fir pc. The real bug slaying game! It's also 16 player co-op

Jingsing14d ago

This is just Steam being opportunistic disguised as consumer friendly, maybe Sony will wake up now.

thorstein13d ago

Well, it looks like they apparently did.

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Distantgoth15d ago

I bet half the people that are moaning about this have Xbox accounts and have to sign into Microsoft account to play certain games, same with other games such as EA, Ubisoft.. so what difference does this make?

Sirch14d ago

It’s about Sony not caring about this studio until it was successful, now they are exerting their control to improve their PC user base to make PSN eventually required for these games to play online, and thus their monthly fee.

This is about the future of gaming not about just signing up for a free account. Free isn’t free….

Seraphim14d ago

From what I read this was always a thing. However due to popularity/server issues at launch this requirement was temporarily suspended.

That being said, if this was always the case they should've conveyed it to consumers better. Regardless of what is true or fiction it's a terrible situation.

At the same time countless companies make you sign into a account of thier own to access games and other software. Generally speaking that is a practice I feel needs to stop. Be that MS, Ubi, EA, PS, or whomever else. The last thing people need are more accounts. 2 cents

CantThinkOfAUsername14d ago

The difference is PSN accounts are only available in 69 countries. If you're not residing in one of these, you're SOL and lose access to the game you purchased. People whining about an account requirement for an online game are hypocrites and are drowning the real issue.

MrNinosan14d ago

And Xbox account in 48 countries

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MrNinosan14d ago

@Christpphoerrr
Iy's actually 48 officially supported countries for Xbox accounts.
Playstation had the requirement in play by day 1, Arrowhead removed it temporarily due to the server issues.

Sony doesn't ban accounts for using another for another country.
I had PS3 from US a year before it was available in Sweden, and have been sticking with my US account ever since.
I also have UK, HongKong, Japanese and Australian accounts.

PSN doesn't require facial scan or goverment ID, you smoking something dude?

I don't think it's less or more bad for the same reason I need MS account to play Minecraft nowadays, even thou I purchased the game multiple times, and now I'm not allowed to use all purchases anymore.

Or Sea of Thieves on PS5.
FIFA... the list goes on.

I have plenty of games on PC, Series X, PS5 and Switch thay requires me to use a specific login.

And you know what? I don't care, I don't cry, it doesn't make games worse. It helps the developers growing and getting more information from what their player base want.

This right now, is cry babies and it's obviously doesn't moving the needle as Xbox Fans and PC Master Race kids want, because Helldivers 2 still have the same concurrent players on Steam as a week ago.

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JEECE14d ago

No doubt. People tend to have very selective outrage about these types of things. It's like the people who swear they'll never buy a certain game until the publisher releases a physical version, yet they happily play various other games that are only available digitally, or the people who say they won't buy a certain multiplayer centric game because it doesn't include a traditional campaign, yet they play other multiplayer only games, or the people who blast major publishers for microtransactions and greedy practices but support games from smaller devs with far worse practices.

That being said, this is still a dumb move by Sony. Games on PC should always require the fewest number of launchers/logins possible. If I'm signed into Steam, I shouldn't have to sign into anything else.

Jingsing14d ago

When you say as few launchers as possible you do realize you are advocating for less stores and less stores means less competition. Why it is that everyone one PC suddenly wants socialism when it comes to entertainment?

Jingsing14d ago

To be fair N4G is mostly PC commentators who rank stuff in this order PC>Sony>Nintendo>Xbox . That is often reflected in comment voting.

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Helldivers 2’s “second galactic war” begins after this huge failure

The real fight begins for Helldivers 2 players after failing a huge Major Order, as Arrowhead ushers in the next chapter of warfare.

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Palitera20h ago

If only the game wasn't so barebones. Out of the super fun core gameplay, the game is a barren land. They better make much easier "major orders", because the player base has mostly moved on.

Domkakop16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Think people are stupid? What's your favourite thing to do besides lying?

RaveTears16h ago

I think that A lot of the player was snap out of existence, after 177 regions was forced to go dark.

rippermcrip15h ago

In those regions in which they took the game down... that was only for new purchases. Anyone who already bought it could play just fine.

gold_drake6h ago

im not sure where u get your numbers from, but there are still a massive amount of people playing ha

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Bronbron9212h ago

I really hope they expand the war to where our foes get to super earth like in helldivers 1 I’d imagine the game by then would have tons of stratagems and the vehicles by then

MIDGETonSTILTS178h ago

It’s important to establish both successes and failures in order to make community engagement feel genuinely impactful, and not just a predetermined outcome on rails.

They obviously have a bunch of content waiting for deployment, and they plan to trickle it out at whatever pace keeps the community at their desired size.

The game is still much, much more popular than they ever planned. And antitank mines feel like small potatoes compared to the vehicles and new enemies we know are down the road.

Buckle up for a long term plan.

gold_drake6h ago

i love how they do this, real consequences etc.

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Helldivers 2 players share tips everyone should know but many don't

Helldivers 2 can take a long time to figure out every mechanic in the game, so Reddit users have shared their most helpful tips.

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LG_Fox_Brazil2d ago

The main tip that I would tell a new player is: know how and when to pick your fights. Sometimes it's better to avoid a skirmish altogether and focus on the missions. And if you are indeed starting a fight, try to end is as soon as possible and focus on the smallers enemies first, because if you get rid of all those bastards then they won't call for backup and you'll have time to finish the bigger threats

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Helldivers 2 is now on the Game Boy Color, sort of

Helldivers 2 is now on the Game Boy Color, sort of.

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