This is ridiculous, but since I haven't tried it for myself, I can't judge yet. I'm pretty pissed about not being able to chat with friends who aren't playing MW2 or in my game, but maybe it will promote teamwork after all.

However, with the typical nature of COD players, this probably won't be the case. View

There's not a very fine line between confidence and unwarranted boasting, but I guess you need it spelled out for you.

Every quote I used in the article was quoted VERBATIM from the X360A interview, with enough context surrounding it to make sure that it appeared unblemished from its original state. This isn't a matter of Turn 10 beating its chest in public, which would've been perfectly reasonable considering the fact that Forza is (SHOCKER!) a quality game that many will enjoy. However, where the line gets crossed is when you step out on the E3 showroom floor and say garbage like: "We are the definitive racing experience this console generation," and "I have not seen anything that is even within years of what we’re delivering here."

If you're looking for bias, you're not going to find it anywhere but from the people who MADE the game and those who are PAYING for the game to be made. Full disclosure: I only own an Xbox 360 right now, and I love it to death. Flamebait is blatant spin or slander aimed at starting a ruckus with little to no substance. I'm not going to boast about my writing, but I will say that this article is something that brings up a number of legitimate points that will (hopefully) make Turn 10 realize that by building hype for their own game they are only setting themselves up for failure. It's kind of like giving yourself a nickname; you just don't do it. It's bad practice, and makes you look like an idiot.

So, really, please. Stop all this "fanboy this, bias that" garbage and take the article at face value. It's not meant to be read into all that much, but just to inspire some thought into those who get sucked into the marketing propaganda behind big-name exclusives without considering the alternatives and what they've managed to accomplish.

Gran Turismo 5 will surely be a great game. Prologue was really fun, and Polyphony knows what they're doing. Forza will appeal to many people as well, but it's worth noting that sometimes developers need a reality check. Better to call out these people than to let them get away with what is basically a public shouting match. View

I'm not exactly sure that "out of context" is accurate. The quotes are all very within the context of the article. These are things that you just don't say when you're obviously being outpaced by the competition.

We've all heard of Forza's attention to detail when it comes to physics and "impressive" calculations for the hardcore car junkies, but have any of us actually seen, used, or taken advantage of them? I know that I sure as hell haven't.

You can have the most technically amazing game in the world, but if I feel like I'm traveling at a speed inversely proportional to what the speedometer says, it's all for naught. I could really care less if the game has the best physics engine on the planet if it feels like I'm driving a Tonka truck around because of the poor sense of speed and underwhelming audio/visuals.

The Forza franchise has always been hailed as the most "realistic" driving simulator there is. I'm not a huge car fanatic, but I know that when I hop into my BMW 323i, it's fun to drive. I know that when I go over the speed limit, it's exhilarating. If a game (which is supposed to be all about fun and excitement) cannot manage to capture that same feeling, then it's not even remotely close to being a real driving simulator. Physics be damned. View

Very well said. The game feels rushed from the demo, and although I understand the desire to usurp GT5 from the throne, Turn 10 fails to understand that on a side-by-side checklist, Polyphony has them beat in nearly every single regard.

Cars? GT5.
Graphics? GT5 (THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE, PEOPLE).
In-car view? GT5.

The list goes on, and on, and on. Forza 3 is not a bad game, but it is suffering at the hands of its creators. View

I think most people would be just as mad if Vanilla Ice was hired to do voiceover work instead. View

They did. It's called Avatar Awardables. You'll get them in future games.

'Splosion Man is the first to support them I guess. View

Were you breathing heavily while typing that or what? View

Wow. N4G is slowly becoming a terrible site to look for intelligent or un-fanboyish comments or discussions.

Valve has always disliked the PS3. Since launch, they've found the architecture, the dev kits, and the software to be more complicated than is necessary. They're not alone. Many developers have stated that the PS3 is more difficult to design for than the 360 or Wii, and it's no surprise that most multiplatform games look and perform better on 360 because the PS3's development software is too convoluted for its own good. I don't care if the Cell processor has the potential to cure cancer, if you don't have the tools to get such a project going efficiently and consistently, the amount of power such a piece of hardware is capable of suddenly becomes irrelevant.

So please, stop taking these quotes out of context and portraying them as "big evil Valve" statements, because honestly, Valve is one of the last good, honest developers out there that truly gives a damn about making kickass games and making them last with free support.

TL;DR: STFU.

Edit: Valve is fully capable of creating games for PS3, people. Orange Box? Uh, DUH? View

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So, you mean to tell me, that this one guy disproves every other journalist's comments on Natal/Milo? I think not. "Smoke and mirrors" implies that Natal is not actually a high tech piece of equipment, which it most certainly is. So if you mean to say that the complex algorithms and impressive infrared sensors are just tools of deception, you're kind of stretching the term.

Artificial intelligence isn't SMART. It isn't flexible, it isn't living, its capabilities only go so far as the developers make it. A.I. can't break those boundaries on its own. So if Lionhead has found a way to make an utterly convincing little A.I. boy with some nifty tricks, that's not smoke and mirrors, that's just smart design.

There's a difference, people. Learn a little about this stuff before buying into it wholesale. View

I have seen the top of the mountain. View

Lmao. Priceless. View

Care to explain your reasoning? View

WHAT? Your logic makes no sense. Without consumerism driving the free market, the economy will only plunge further into a recession. If companies don't charge for their products or services, they can't afford to operate, which usually involves lay-offs and a higher unemployment rate.

Read your history books. View

Ignore it. It's sensationalist journalism that thrives off fanboys' utter hatred of everything and anything that involves paying money for content after a game is released.

This mode could have come out a month later, and the same stuff would've been flying around everywhere. People don't like to think before they speak when they don't like something. View

Maybe if you guys knew anything about code you would understand that 1.86MB is perfectly appropriate for the amount of stuff actually added. If you don't like the DLC, don't buy it. I agree that the "above and beyond the initial scope" quote was a bit lame, but Capcom did not withhold the content from launch OR create an unlock key for Versus mode.

Think about Microsoft's certification process, which takes a few weeks, as well as QA, which are both checks that basically ensure that the code doesn't break the game. You guys are making way too big a deal out of this. This isn't overpriced horse armor. This isn't even a $10 mode. It's a measly $5 for a different mode that Resident Evil has historically never been known for including. If you guys are all dissing Versus mode anyway (even though you've never played it and it's actually pretty damn fun), shouldn't this not even matter to you? You guys are really making a huge fuss over something that "sucks"?

What a joke. View

You have no idea how small code actually is. Think about the patch as well. That might have added some code that allowed the small Versus mode to operate as intended.

There are no new maps, no new characters, no new songs (they're on the soundtrack, therefore on the disc), and no new enemies. The only things actually added are lines of code (which are so insanely small it's a wonder how much code there actually is) and a new lobby/intro screen.

If you don't think that can be done in 1.86MB, you haven't been using a PC for very long. View

I'd challenge that. Fallout 3, while bigger, is not nearly as well-rendered as Liberty City. Not even remotely close. View

I'm actually a big RPG fan. Oblivion is one of my favorite games of all time, easily. View

Half the fun of Oblivion was finding that cool, unique part of the world that was hidden away from the rest of the game. It was this search and reward system that made Oblivion's presentation so much more effective than Fallout 3. View

I've been hearing the DLC has been pretty buggy/lackluster. You're probably not missing out on much. View