Top notch comparison by a quality site. Eurogamer and CoD:MW2 for the win. View

reasons were good enough as to why he pays for Live, and they work for me. I've always been happy with my Live service. Different strokes for different folks. Why does it matter to anyone else as to why you like the service.

For all the PSN people, you don't pay for your service, great for you. Many Live gamers aren't complaining. It seems as though the ones that are complaining are the rabid PSN havers. Not all, just the rabid ones.

Live and let live i say, stop the fanboy hate. Respect all gamers please. We make our own decisions on what we buy and how we use our money. It really shouldn't matter to anyone else.

Game on people. View

unlike the guy who posted under me in my first post..... Lifeless Trolls.....

Man this site is really sucking lately.

But Kudos to you.... View

get off it already. Turn10 thanked Poly because they got them into racing games.... You blind fanboys hear and see what you want.

So far Forza 3 sounds like it will be awesome, and even Eurogamer said that it's deserving of considering itself definitive.

Now whether you agree or disagree, it's up to you. But this is gaming, a great hobby to be into. Competition pushes the envelope forwards.

Naughty is a classy developer and UC2 looks Amazing and so far has been said to play Amazing. Halo series has always been awesome to me. I've thoroughly enjoyed all of them, and thought they were epic. The fact that these two Classy Devs are communicating and trying to bring more to gaming then you all class-less fanboys is a testament in character.

It's really sad the bad label many of you fanboys are giving gaming. One would think that gamers are all 7yr old brats.

If you don't like a game, then don't play it. But don't go on a tirade complaining to the people who love the game. I mean seriously, what are you looking for, converts.... Grow up, you did your job by buying the game, hence supporting the studio. But that's it, you don't own the companies nor the intellectual rights. So stop all the bickering and fighting and just be gamers.

For the love of all that's great about gaming, stop the childish crap. View

This site is extremely biased, and then you have your standard 360 bashers.... MNicholas included.

They have nothing positive to say about any 360 game. He's been ragging on many of the Forza 3 articles. He doesn't like the game, and has no interest other then trashing the game.

He does have some intelligence, so don't take him for a blind fanboy, he's more or less a Grand Troll. It's sad when someone chooses to waste all their time following around a game they don't even like, just to let fans of that said game know how much he doesn't like it and why he thinks it's valid. Sad really, so sad.

And then you have your regular 360 bashing followers. Forza 3 is going to be great, check out the Eurogamer Review....

HOld up, let me get a quote from that great site:

"Whatever feature you think you might want in a racing game, Forza Motorsport 3 has it - and if you don't want it, it doesn't matter, because you can ignore it in favor of something else you do want. We laughed at the overuse of the word "definitive" at the game's E3 debut this year, but it's absolutely deserved - this incredibly rounded piece of software has wiped the smirk of our face and replaced it with a warm, if humbled, grin." - Eurogamer

They gave it a 9/10. It was a great and fair review....

Anywayz always keep it real. It's a shame that there are so little true gamers on this site. It's full of fanboys that have to trash one game or another.

I played the Shift demo, and was kind of turned off by it. I raced with the Nissan GTR, which is an AWD vehicle with an extremely advanced AWD system, that some how kept oversteering at every possible exit of a turn. And this is with the stock form of the vehicle. That is ridiculous. EA went to extremes to make the game really scary and exciting, but it's not realistic. Not only that, there is a clear difference with the frame rates.....

I prefer Forza 3 demo over Shift demo. And i will have Forza 3 day 1.

Can't wait.... View

this game is going to soak up so much of my time.... Can't wait.... View

and for what? The consumer should always research a product. You can't take what the manufacturer tells you as the word of God.

It is the consumers responsibility to research before they purchase. It is very immature to just buy things on the word of the manufacturer. That's how you shirk responsibility, and how credit cards get over on people. Not enough consumers doing research.

The manufacturer's job is to make their product attractive. That's it, they have no responsibility outside of that. The consumer, who is spending their hard earned money, is responsible for know what they are buying.

No offense, but you sirs, sound like spoiled children.

And a side note, there were more sales of the Premium then the Arcade. And I'm sorry, but i would rather have options, then to just be told that this is the only thing available. Let me pay for what i want, not what you tell me is good for me.

Some of you need to seriously wake up. View

Can't wait to try out the OLED screen, that has got to be pretty sweet. Not a big fan of Apple and it's cult, this is it for me. View

This is the E3 demo build which was built alongside Forza 3 development. Secondly, they are both demo's and don't represent the final product. So stop all the crying. Both games look great and are said to play great.

Can't wait till they come out, well, I'm leaning towards Forza 3. It's gonna be an awesome October for me.

Let's be gamers.... All this senseless bickering is childish and makes our pastime look laughable. View

that was a great read, in which i wholly agree to the fullest. And this is a stupid comparison.... A whole game vs a Demo that was released at E3..... Sad.... View

The Forza 3 demo is the E3 demo.... Which we all know is a separate build from the final game..... I loved the demo.... It gave me a taste for things to come. I think both games look great.... But Forza in my opinion is far more engaging and feels more realistic. And i don't know what sounds some of you were hearing, but Forza has always sound better then GT. The sounds are far more visceral, and the tire screech in GT5p is the same one from GT1.

Hats off to both Turn10 and PD, but I'm going with Forza 3, ever since the original Forza i haven't looked back to GT, and until they step their game up, i don't think i ever will.

P.S. their games are always beautiful though. View

And i haven't looked back towards Apple or any of it's products. I swear it's like a cult or something. I used to want to jump into Apple everything. But when i started to realize that for the same money, i can have better, not only that.... all i need is it's OS if i wanted it, i don't need any of it's products....

It does have a strangle hold on music and app entertainment though. I like MS's efforts and that they are trying really hard, but it's like a new OS trying to compete with them.... They've got to go harder and more innovative if they really want to start something, they also need more media exposure. Everything is iPod this iPod that, and the horrible iTunes. The Zune software and Marketplace is awesome, and in my opinion, much better then iTunes, but iTunes has far more exposure and brand recognition.

This is really going to be a long battle for MS, and it won't be as easy as the console business, not saying that they have won or anything, but you have to give them credit, they've made a substantial footing in the console market, and that's not easy to do.

MS got heart and loves money.... I think they'll keep on pushing forward.... Keep up the good work, i love my Zune Pass and have an infinite amount of music i listen to for 16 bucks a month, instead of paying 99c per song....

Have a good day to all, and sorry for the rant.... View

I just came from the other Forza 3 article, and it's full of Forza and 360 haters.... It's really sad.... Bunch of Trollz have nothing better to do. It urked the mess out of me....

This game is going to be great.... I have Forza 1 and 2, can't wait to play this one. The game looks beautiful, and i know it's gonna handle amazingly. October 22 can't come fast enough..... Argh.... View

Why are most of you even in here? To show that many of you don't have common sense, or maybe that you just can't read. Forza 3 is exclusive, many of you are just looking for something to flame....

My god, many of you make this site unbearable sometimes. I came to this article hoping to talk about the great cars that I saw at the Forzamotorsport.net page about these cars.... And low-and-behold, the article is full of people who don't even like Forza 3....

Get a life, you like GT, go to GT articles. Why in the world would you come to Forza 3 articles. Many of you saw what you wanted to see, and now are posting like rabid fanboys/fangirls (whichever applies).

Seriously, many of you are a sad bunch. This article is full of more Forza haters then fans....

I just checked out the Uncharted 2 article... All fans (the game is going to be awesome by the way), it was full of fans talking about the game. Unlike a 360 and Forza 3 article; full of blatant haterz trashing MS, Turn 10, and Forza....

Grow up.... Sad bunch of Trollz..... View

the same people complaining about the violence, are probably gonna be relishing in it when God of War 3 comes out.....

Sad bunch of hypocrites.....

I like the violence, and I think it should have been optional on PS3.....

Oh, and so far, all i've seen is a color saturation difference and less AA on the PS3 version. Haven't seen any texture detail shots to make a judgment and the lighting is different. Can't really say better or worse, because it's better to tell when the game is in motion, since it's such a fast paced game. View

you sure do have a lot of insight as into his backstory.... View

I actually have all the novels including the graphic novel, and they are a great read. You don't even need to be a fan of the game to enjoy them. The story telling is just that good. It also explains how the Spartans came to be, so to one of the posters above, he is more then just a soldier that can jump high(ignorance).

The Mass Affect books are pretty good too. I finished the first one, and now am moving on to the second. They are pretty good.

I can't understand the translation, but I think Master Chief is a great Gaming Icon. View

you are directly comparing the Eyetoy to Natal. And it's seems like there is some underlining animosity. How about trying to be optimistic about Natal. How about hoping that it does better then the Eyetoy. We as "Gamers" don't win when stuff fails. Let's hope MS blows our socks off. Why predict a loss?

I've had the 360's Vision Camera almost since day 1. I played the interactive arcade game that came free with it. I liked the concept, but i wanted more precise motion capture. Natal can bring that to the table. Just imagine the possibilities. Don't see it as since Eyetoy didn't fair so well, why is Natal gonna do better. That really isn't a positive outlook and seems a lil fanboyish.

Let's hope this takes gaming to a whole different level. Even the PS3's motion control device. I hope they all do well. They are making our hobby more mainstream and easier for people to get into. I see that as a plus for us(gamers).

@Knavex: i saw the demo of EyePet.... I'm sorry, i didn't know it wasn't out yet. But seriously, can you see that as a strong showing for the PS3. Right now the PS3 doesn't have the casual gamer market. So putting out a game like that with the audience it has is almost guaranteeing a lukewarm inception. Especially since i hear from a lot of PS3 gamers that they are of a more mature crowd. So how do you really think it'll fair? View

i wouldn't give the Eyetoy that much credit. It was still a niche thing. It needed to be incorporated if it was going to be successful. Natal is looking for full incorporation not just an add-on. Look at the games for the eyetoy. Do you actually wonder why it didn't catch on.

Natal is going for full immersion. You really are part of the game in Natal. the Eyetoy had interactive cards <---- niche title, you had the Eyepet <---- niche title. Sony obviously wasn't going for mainstream. MS is going for mainstream, not just Niche titles.

That's going to make or break Natal. How MS incorporates it. But i wouldn't compare the two. Let MS be MS, and let Sony be Sony. Let's not look at one and draw the same conclusion, especially since it's not even out yet. View

I agree... MS really needs some strong 1st party showing... But i think they are doing great and the fact that they have all these studios showing support that it's promising for Natal. They can start off slow like how PS3 always had some kind of motion support for games by using the Six Axis. Natal can start small there, and then build upon that with Natal games. I just really hope they don't bank on natal and try to make games that are better on controllers be used on Natal.

That's the winning formula of the Wii.... MS really shouldn't treat it as an Add-on. They should treat it as it's own thing with it's own games. Then they will be successful.

I am stoked about the idea that it can interact with controller type games... because we all move when we game. So imagine if it helps you out in a FPS when you duck or dodge the game does something for you... Like a last minute dodge to the side or something crazy like a near miss..... Who knows.... I just really hope the developers open their minds and go crazy with it.

Here's lookin to the future.... View