"edgeofblade ~ PS3 copied Xbox Live Achievements..."

Wrong. Look into a game from the PS2 called Spyro ~ Sony and Insomniac invented Skill Points all the way back in 1998:

http://guidesarchive.ign.co...

So in reality Microsoft copied Sony's Skill Points and renamed them 'Acheivements'...IF you want "talk & act" like you are properly informed.

"edgeofblade ~ and they even did it poorly and 5they failed to. Meanwhile, Achievements still ranks as one of the top reasons to choose a multiplatform game for 360 over PS3."

Sounds like a personal opinion to me which is definitely not fact. People don't base their final deciding factor for purchasing a game off of achievements/trophies, if it came down to that then they are simply misinformed (especially when all PS3 games have had trophies for quite some time now). Either way, the trophy structure in my opinion shows the greater difficulty in leveling up and a better reward for the gamer when completed. But that is just an opinion. Not a fact of why people "choose a multiplatform game for 360 over PS3"

"edgeofblade ~ "and HD-DVD failed because 360 gamers didn't buy into microsoft's sh!t that it was better than bluray."

^ that is one of the biggest misconceptions about the format war... and the biggest sign you are just a Sony mouthpiece. And worse, a misinformed one. Blu-ray was Sony's technology. HDDVD did not belong to Microsoft in the same way. They were positioned COMPLETELY differently."

I would say you are partially wrong here because if you want to talk misinformation then look no further than your own words right there because Blu-ray is not "Sony's Technology" BD is made up of 20 DIFFERENT companies combined to create the BDA (Blu-ray Disc Association)and the Blu-ray disc technology

Wiki ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Apple, Inc.
Dell, Inc.
Hewlett-Packard Company
Hitachi, Ltd.
Intel Corporation
LG Electronics Inc.
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Panasonic Corporation
Philips Consumer Electronics
Pioneer Corporation
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
TDK Corporation
Thomson S.A.
Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment
The Walt Disney Studios
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.

"edgeofblade ~ Microsoft was not in a position to leverage HDDVD in the same way"

Wrong again. MS didn't want EITHER technology to win because

a) they only wanted to screw Sony ~ http://www.ipodobserver.com...

b) it would force skipping physical media & people into Digital Downloads and

c) they were not the makers of it (BD or HDDVD). The latter meant they would hold no leverage and not be able to receive all/most of the profits.

Additionally the BDA wanted

"Blu-ray to use a Java-based platform for interactivity (BD-J based on Sun Microsystem's Java TV standards), while HD DVD companies wanted to use Microsoft's "iHD" (which became HDi)."

Wiki ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Which MS wouldn't support because Sun is a competing company which MS has ALWAYS had issue with.

Lastly I have also read (but cannot find the link right now so I will throw this up as hearsay but interesting nonetheless) that HDDVD had the support/backing and some sort of technology based on/in/using/partially Linux of which MS would NEVER fully support since it is a direct competitor of their OS.

Your opinion may differ from mine and others but at least ours is based in fact. That is the difference. View

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Source Read ~ http://www.gtplanet.net/gra...

And I quote ~

"someone with access to the demo also received an email from Sony that wanted to emphasize

*****this is not a demo of Gran Turismo 5, and is only being released for GT Academy.*****

Polyphony Digital has also posted a new press release, clearly stating the demo was

*****specifically designed for this competition to showcase the realism of the brand-new physics engine and nothing more.*****" View

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Wow. Simply Amazing. Nice abuse of power there. So it's okay for post 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.10, 1.18, 1.22, 1.26, 1.42, 1.43 and MANY OTHERS to say/agree that PS3 fans run N4G but when you provide ACTUAL PROOF that is not the case and point out how a certain contributor is confirmed biased your comment gets removed and a bubble gets taken away...

THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH N4G...certain staff who abuse their position.

Thanx solidjun5 & Pennywise. But I fear this post will also get the same treatment. Which just proves my point and justifies it even more. Especially when the fair, proper & correct thing to do would be to either remove EVERYONE'S comment about this and/or remove a bubble as well that was similar... View

^^^ Certain types of "gamers" will try...you know that ;) View

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Fig ~ "i still don't give a flying f*ck what Gamespot has to say, as it doesn't simply erase the past 3 years of FUD and misinformation they spewed regarding the PS3, but i will give them credit for at least acknowledging that Sony brought the thunder this year in regards to not just software quantity, but QUALITY."

Everything was a great read, absolutely true and I agree 100% but I just had to quote the last part...it is surprising to see this from Gamespot along with the other awards and information they have wrote about and maybe the true gamer in them finally realized they were doing themselves & gaming media a disservice? Either way they do not get a pass. They get a slim chance to keep proving themselves....a very SLIM chance. But we shall see. View

@ MazzingerZ ~ I have actually heard Jack Tretton say that on stage at an E3 a few years back (or some other mass gaming media event)...I thought I had a link to the vid but can't find it currently. If I find it I will definitely post is (and save it somewhere I'll remember).

But on the topic I don't think gamesharing is bad in itself for gamers...just that it gets abused by those who don't respect (which can ruin it for all of us). I myself gameshare some things with some of my family because I have no siblings but never go overboard and I always have 1-2 extra spaces just in case (as I am up to 3 PS3's in my house anyway). Like I said though ~ I don't think it's bad, just that people abuse it improperly.. View

Every gamer won't like every game...but real gamers will/should give props to every game that deserves it ~ especially ones that push the bleeding edge of technology (even at the risk of failing).

I for one couldn't get over the input lag that KZ2 had in the beginning. And voiced my opinion duly so...actually even added an article or 2 about the issue right here on N4G! Does that mean I "hated" KZ2? Nope - not at all (though MANY believed/assumed otherwise). The fact is I was actually crushed that I could not enjoy the game in the way that I had such high hopes for! But I ALWAYS gave it props for what it did & brought to the table for the genre.

I guess being spoiled to how other amazing FPS's were on PC (CS, AvP's, DoD, Tribes etc) I expected it to be the same...I blame the damned mouse and keyboard for that ;) but I really have to borrow it and pick it up again since last I played it at my boys house it REALLY improved with the patch. View

Yup Eamon, you're right...it came out first with last gen technology to beat Sony to market, but what it really ended up doing was screwing all of us as gamers.

And before certain types of "gamers" start flinging insults/assumpitons let me say this very clearly ~ I have a RIGHT as a consumer to speak my mind about a product of which I OWN THAT HAS FAILED ON ME TIME AND TIME AGAIN to the tune of 5 RROD's. "F" Microsoft I say, they get no free pass from me.

With that said PlayStation users/gamers have come to EXPECT next gen or newer tech in their console. EVERY SINGLE PLAYSTATION PRODUCT HAS PROVIDED THIS. Something other makers don't provide or even DARE offering to their costumers. Sorry if some of us like to get our money worth out of something we work hard for. I know I sure as hell don't like to waste money especially in this economy!

But what really pisses me off is that I don't settle for mediocrity in any other aspect of my life, so why should I in a product I buy? So why the hell do I have a 360 you ask? Honestly? I don't know...because the ONLY title in all the years I have had it that I am looking forward to is SC Conviction. Granted that is my personal opinion and does not in anyway mean the 360 does not have games...but it just bothers me that I can get 99% of them on my PC which actually WORKS as intended without the hassle or worry of catching a RROD.

But on the topic I have to add this ~ while I won't say/agree to put the blame solely on the 360 because there is no actual proof of this (though we all have our suspicions) it really doesn't matter because it should be free if it was "supposed" to be in the retail game. Ubisoft is ultimately to blame, that is the bottom line.

Eh, whatever...I ain't buyin' AC2 the same as I did for AC1 (rented both) so "F" Ubisoft anyway. Lastly please excuse my rant if it "offends" you. It's my actual experience. If you don't like it..oh well - deal with it ;) View

^^^ (@ above) "The tides have turned and some people don't like it." View

Elven6 your opinion is incorrect & misinformed ~

"Just to be clear on this, i4i ****isn't a patent troll**** -- it's a a 30 person database design company that shipped one of the first XML plugins for Office and was actually responsible for revamping the entire USPTO database around XML to make it compatible with Word back in 2000. What's more, the patents involved here don't cover XML itself, but rather the specific algorithms used to read and write custom XML -- so OpenOffice users can breathe easy, as i4i has said the suite doesn't infringe. Existing Office users should also be fine, as only future sales of Word are affected by the ruling, not any already-sold products." View

Actually kartik21 his bias and posts of misinformation are easily disputed, especially since the PLAYSTATION line of products are not 3rd. See! Factual information that he can't refute...and even if he would like to he can't because he has no bubbles (which in itself explains a lot). View

Not when 2 of the largest retailers in the US (Walmart & Amazon) are not counted. That is why VGChartz is also not reliable...nothing but guesses & estimates NOT actual/factual hard numbers for proof. View

^^^ Not all Americans (maybe for American children I would agree). I for one and quite a few friends/family can't be bothered with it...we are more about REAL skilled FPS's for PC and Consoles~ CS, Killzone 2, Some Quake, Half Life series, AvP's, SOME CoD's (more-so for PC), MoH's, DoD, Doom, Tom Clancy's and quite a few others. Sorry but Halo is for misinformed kids who believe that is what a FPS is supposed to be like. Nope. View

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Rocco please read my post to TheTruth2009 above as it applies to you as well... View

Just for you TheTruth2009 ~ View

Shhh! (that is a factual comment which is based in rationality & supported with proof which certain types of gamers don't believe or want to discuss)... ;) View