I agree. Can't wait for the PC version. View

Your right strategizing and planning mean much less then tank and spank. View

Swing and a miss blizz... again. View

I knew they would not add any new cars or land... hence why I could care less about the DLC. View

If you followed the Dev Diaries for WAR you'd know EA are just the money. it was in the contract with the Dev's that EA get profit and none of the decision making in the matter... How true that is who knows but I belive Paul Barnett. i met him and BS'd with him a lot about it and he's not full of it. EA are just the money. View

I agree fully bro. I never meant to attack you. I just feel for the most part there are a lot... A LOT of wow lemmings out there. I really appreciate a good game and decent gamers who diversify. If you like WAR I have a great guild so long as you play order we have an extensive history and great leadership. i would love to run around with you and anyone else who is interested. Truth is I have 2 jobs and school atm so i have trouble playing as often as I'd like especially because I enjoy console and regular PC gaming as well(Dead space FTW).

That being said hit me up and lets kill some peeps or let me know if you roll a newbie Destruction toon on some server and I'll roll with you.

I believe I have talked to you before about something console related but for the life of me I can not recall.

yeah most CEO's are tools(gabe newel*Spelling) but for popularities sake they have to knock down the other people. It's also the nature of the beast. Mythic have been around a lot longer and have a strong place in the community I feel and can knock on the casual giant if they like. Doesn't change my opinion none.

In all seriousness though. All I want to do is help people experience something outside of WoW. Darkfall looks amazing for example. Public beta starting up soon and all(Supposedly). The fact that wow never caters to it's fans too me is the biggest load of cr@p. WAR is doing an amazing job and just looking at what they do or try is astounding and I wish people would see it for what it is and not just say "WoW Clone" when in reality it's quite the opposite.

Anyway game on bro and hit me up or whatever. /salute View

I would like to make a special comment.

Firstly I have played many many MMORPG’s, EVE, AOC, COH/COV, EQ, EQ2, DAOC and many others. I don’t go as far back as UO or Shadowbane but I have studied them and talked to a lot of people who have played them. In WOW I had a 70 lock fully geared from Serpentshrine and pre BC I had cleared BWL and ventured into Naxx and done most of AQ 40. I have experience in that game since it seems many of you only know that.

Now, What I would like to say about WAR. The original dev’s of Warcraft and WOW were big Warhammer fans. The table top games. They wanted to pay Homage to Warhammer in creating a game around the lore but not to copyright infringe. So no more of this “WAR copied WoW” for a few reasons. Mythic has been making MMORPG’s a lot longer then Blizzard as well as the above stated facts.

Now for my 2 cents. 750,000 players is huge for an MMO starting up. Will it “Beat” wow. Depends on how you look at it. When wow was in it’s start it was nowhere near as comprehensive or detailed or fleshed out or basically good as WAR it also had nowhere near as many players at the same stage in it’s life. 750,000 is a huge potential lose to WoW. 750,000 x 15$ a month. Do the math.

Warhammer constantly updates and patches bugs and fixes things to balance and the PVP is an amazing system. As opposed to a copy and paste thing that WoW does. i.e. Pre BC horde had shamans and alliance had paladins. This created a great balance in PVP. What did they do. Copy/paste and give alliance an ugly toon and horde a pretty one. Instead of create something new and not “Gimmicky” like the deeath knights look to be. In WoW it takes years to get an update players have been asking for. In War they just put out a patch it said at one point “Due to user feedback and popular demand we have allowed zone discussion” They always update and give credit where it is due. Their interface is fully customizable from the get go. You can move anything anywhere without much issues. There are many advantages from a aestetic stand point.

From a gameplay standpoint that’s up to the player. The biggest truth’s being “Don’t knock it til you try it” “Don’t judge a book by it’s cover” and “The only person your hurting in not trying is yourself” What have you got to lose besides 50$. If 50$ is a big deal then by all means save your money. If it isn’t then go for it. Why do I say this well let me tell you a little story about a friend of mine. His players name is Zonker. His main is a pally he has a 70 of every class except Warlock on his account. He works with my roommate who is a former WoWer like me. We enjoyed it but as soon as it got old we moved on. The community is good and some of the players are well educated but the vast majority are tools.

So Zonker is still playing and we keep telling him to try WAR. He wont but then cries non stop about how “this patch broke wow” or “Damn X class is OP” or whatever. Me and my roommate watch him and it is almost like he’s banging his head agains’t a wall and saying ”I don’t know why I keep doing this” Yet continues on his head smashing journey while me and my Roomy enjoy all the wonders of a new and fresh MMO that has variety and fun unlike anything I have yet to see in WoW. From the very first level you can Duel wield if it is what your class does. From lvl 1 you can que up for BG’s. From lvl 1 your not killing some dumb dogs. Your actually killing players and bosses in Public quest groups. If anything it’s “Fun” and to you it may not be but the variety in PVE and the diversity in PVP is astounding and fun be it open world or scenario’d.

So basically in conclusion WAR is doing great and even better then WoW was in infancy and has few bug’s or glitches compared to it’s counterpart. I can link you many articles on WoW and WAR and otherwise discussing good and bad points and I have done my research on many a things but I think Sirlin summed a lot of the game up the best. Let me link you a post of his. Dave Sirlin is a great game Designer and many of his articles on pacing, balance and everything else have taught me a lot. So here you go and game on guys. Hope to see you in WAR. If not then enjoy whatever it is you like. If that’s WoW then great but don’t be afraid to try out another game when it arrives be it DC universe or otherwise cause you have nothing to lose but a few bucks.

I will be saving this article to post later if needed.

http://www.gamasutra.com/fe...

Sirlins main site if anyone wants to see it is here

http://www.sirlin.net/ View

Nah ya'll are right. There's no way he would let that happen(Sarcasm) and take a few extra million. Same as Bioshock or Gears 1. View

@ Cheeseknight. You have no idea. The guys at Blizz created WoW to pay Hommage to Warhammer in the first place. mythic have been making MMO's long before WoW and if anything WoW stole a lot more from them. View

I can't wait to get it on my PC. And yes it will come Fable did as will this and gears 2 and Left 4 Dead. View

Lots of WoW news atm... I guess it's all Blizzcon. Any release date for Diablo 3? or estimate. View

Just instance it. Like the PVP halls used to be. Too easy. They wont though... not anytime soon anyway. View

Affliction Lock might be able to as well. Pending V good gear and a mess of pots and full buffs before going in. View

No man I get what your saying hence the "Potential"

I'm playing it and it's "fun". Key word there. Is it amazing and beyond my wildest dreams and stomps WoW. Not at all but then again to many it is. The PVP is a lot of fun. The PQ's and exploring is worth while and the set up is just great. It's not for everyone but like I say as long as you have a PC that will run it and the money to spend the only person being hurt in not trying it is "You"(Not you directly but whoever the person is)

Anyway Thanks for the reply. Game on bro! View

Why no mention of how many they will lsoe since WAR came out. thats 750,000 of their potential customers already playing another MMO. It's been out less than a month too. View

You should check out some of Dave Sirlins publishing's. www.sirlin.net I have always loved reading his articles on Playing to win, Balance, Pacing and otherwise. I hope you like it.

Game on! View

I did enjoy it I guess. It was repetative and stuff but really it was enjoyable. Nice review. View

To be 100% honest I would really try to make them happy. Say someone came in and said "My kid wants to play games with his friends" I would say "Well what system do his friends have?" and that would be the biggest factor. I however would never push the Arcade model as I feel it really is a waste.

I owned a 360 bro. I had an elite and realized a little while ago that everything I want to play is on PC and PS3 so I sold it and now have a sweet rig and I'm happy... I have no ill will or anything but really if it were me I would always try to sell to a "Family" as opposed to an "Individual" if possible. I feel people need to get the most with their money and on a personal level I believe the PS3 does offer the better family experience mainly due to Blu... However if all that was trivial I would never trash talk the 360 if someone was dead set on it. I might advise them if they were thinking about the Arcade before they bought it because I feel it is just a way for MS to nickle and dime people after they are already invested... So yeah I am opinionated and honestly it's not because I dislike the 360 I really don't care bro. If people like it then rock on but really I see no reason to own it. Left 4 dead is coming to PC, Gears 2 will eventually with added content... Fable who knows but I'm sure it will too and I am in no rush and if I miss out on that one game I really still feel my investment in a better PC was a much better choice for my personal desires in gaming... I also really don't feel the 360 is future proof enough at all... Just from my views and experience in computers and everything else... I feel we will probably be nearing the end of the 720's life cycle before the PS3 is over... however that is my opinion and I could be dead wrong... I would share that with people but would never put it in a way like "The 360 will be obsolete in a year" I would never say that but I would say "As a 25 year gaming vet I feel the 360 isn't future proof but I have been wrong before"

Truth is I don't think anyone can be 100% unbiased all the time but I really would try to get a gamer the best rig for their needs. A college kid who wants to play halo 3 andmaybe gears 2 and thats it. Arcade all the way. anything more a better version of the 360... A dad who might be interested in having HD Dark Knight for his nice flat screen as well as a sweet Xmas gift for his kid he can hijack. PS3... View

Well I'll say your both right. the N64 was the better game but for it's time the SNES version was lightyears beyond anything similar at the time. Starfox 64 was not beyond all other similar games but just a bit better it seemed.... Like I said Starfox64 was better with more replay and options and all that then the SNES game but for it's time the SNES game was just WOW! Like Donkey Kong Country was or Bouncer or how KZ2 looks it was that kind of WOW to me at least. View

you really need to finish what you write with "IMO" or "IMHO" I could see you with a lot more bubbles that way. I agree it is a silly article. View