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Chinese Development recieved order for Blu-ray Players

Taiwan has a glorious technological industry for the country. The latest invention of the Blue DVD players, high-quality images, high-capacity. Traditional DVD machines can only read 4.7 GB discs, but Blue DVD can read as much as 50G, that is over 12 traditional movie discs!

There has been an order from the United States for Blue-DVD players, of an estimated value of up to 10.1 billion.

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deep - 589 days 3 hours ago

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Well I'd like to show you a report from another Chinese site. This one says "Blue DVD" and also mentions the disc are "50gb"...so what's your interpretation now? Jumping the gun is a little stupid...I still wouldn't like to call it.

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ITR - 589 days 3 hours ago

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I think HD-DVD now has 51GB.

I hate this because blue could mean anything.

We need a good translator.

I'm hoping someone just combines the formats and sells it cheaply.

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eques judicii - 589 days 3 hours ago

2.1 - i think we should wait

if this has any impact on America there will be an English Press Release that will spell it out... from what I've heard the translations coming out of Taiwan were Blue HD-DVD (remember they call DVDs Red DVD)... I'll ask my girlfriend to translate later...

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deep - 589 days 3 hours ago

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this was provided to me by someone who speaks chinese. He says in China they call Blu-ray...Blu-ray HDDVD and they call HDDVD....HDDVD.

So I really think we should wait...but I feel this is necessary.

Ps. HDDVD players cannot play those 51gb discs

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Torch - 589 days 2 hours ago

2.3 - @ITR: "I think HD-DVD now has 51GB"

True...that crossed my mind as well.

But I think Deep has a point: Blu-Ray is renoundly known to hold fifty gigs of data (despite the current 'true' limit of 200GB), while, HD-DVD is generally known to hold only thirty. I get a sense that if they were referring to HD-DVD, they would've specified fifty-ONE GB capacity.

Sure, I admit to be splitting hairs, but that's all the fun about harmless unsubstantiated speculation!

But shouldn't some research into the article's referenced Mr.(?) "Deng Hongmo Kyrgyzstan" help put the issue to rest? They claim him to be the inventor of the technology to which they refer. (no dice for me thus far.)

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ITR - 589 days 2 hours ago

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I have no idea at this point.

Seems like a free for all over there.

We still need a better translation, if anything to avoid confusion.

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Fx35 - 589 days 2 hours ago

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50gb is definitely bluray
power of Green,fox pulling all upcoming bluray titles have nothing to do with this news,it has to do with copy protection ,youre just a desperate liar.Bluray is crushing hddvd and you forgot to mention Disney,Liongates,.... exclusif bluray supporters,hddvd is dying because of low support.

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ITR - 589 days 2 hours ago

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Talked to a Wally World Dist Manager
He said 3-4 HD DVD players are coming to Wally-World this fall.

1 made by them and supposedly 3 made by other parties.

He didn't know which format though.
He called it rumors on the grapevine at Wally World Corp.
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If everyone chose different formats...we could see a low cost Format War coming this X'mas.

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SmokeyMcBear - 589 days ago

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isn't wally world the theme park in national lampoons vacation? Awesome movie

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power of Green - 589 days 1 hour ago

5 - Deep may have a point but like the guy that posted the link first he is guessing that this is the same story everybodies trying to figure out.

TDK jumped ship. Others have gone neutral too. All movie studios have gone neutral excluding Fox and MGM (MGM is owned by Sony) and Fox pulled all upcoming Blu-Ray titles as I'm pretty sure they had this news before everyone else here.

Samsung, LG and some others have gone neutral too. Samsung being the original backer behind Blu-Ray as well.

And here a piece of the press release that has been translated, let me know if any of this starts looking like Blu-Ray please

From press release:

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Deng Hungchi also mentioned that Blue HD-DVD for high-volume, high-quality images, high resolution vision, machine Images can be more realistic, more beautiful images. Its advantage is more easily with existing DVD discs maintain compatibility, and may continue to use existing DVD production equipment CDs and facilitate the expansion of the distance between lens and do not need, such as CD-ROM cartridges, substantially reduced from the current transition to HD DVD, the cost for the DVD, makes disc manufacturers switch from DVD to HD DVD when the costs can be reduced to a minimum. Moreover, the HD DVD recording capacity is smaller, but the eye, decontamination capability, and without cartridges, dish Therefore the production process easier and less costly.

Deng Hungchi is general manager of Fuh Yuan.

You see what he's saying is HD-DVD only ability. Blu-Ray requires completely revamped manufacturing process.

I don't know why people are surprised, these news reports have been around for years now. So how is this any surprise to the BD supporters who keep threadcrapping everywhere? It's obviously the HD-DVD format, and you will most likely hear additional companies such as Alco, Shinco and Lite-On (mentioned at CES) announcing lower-priced players for other major retailers as well (Target, Sears, K-Mart?). This was publicly announced at CES in January, so why the denial? Did BD folks think this was all simply BS?

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OCT, 2005: In the high-stakes battle with Sony over whose format will power the next-generation of DVD players, Toshiba has adopted a potentially perilous strategy: encouraging low-cost Chinese competitors to crank out machines using its standard known as HD-DVD.

The tactic of courting Chinese makers has been largely taboo in Japan, where manufacturers like Sony and Panasonic have long tried to delay their technology from turning into cheap commodities. But Toshiba's decision could have significant ramifications in the race for the billions of dollars that will very likely flow from the next generation of DVD technology that promises sharper pictures, enhanced audio and more disc storage.

Sony and the Blu-ray group are licensing their technology more selectively. Analysts call this an effort to prevent low-cost manufacturers, including those from China, from quickly driving down the price of Blu-ray machines when they reach stores next year. Many manufacturers are also wary of licensing their technology to the Chinese because of their record of not paying licensing and royalty fees.

The contrasting strategies underscore the increasingly uncomfortable choices that Japanese electronics makers must make as China's manufacturing might grows, whether it be in DVDs, televisions, cameras or other products.

JAN. 7 | LAS VEGAS Chinese manufacturers, known for low-cost consumer products, will begin making and shipping HD DVD players for the U.S. market by the end of 2007, HD DVD promotional group execs announced at an event here Sunday evening. Chinese manufacturers Alco, Shinco and Lite-On will join Toshiba in making players, as will Japanese company Onkyo, execs announced. Microsoft may also make players, officials said, but didn’t provide further details. Car system manufacturer Alpine is making a player for cars. The move is expected to add lower-priced players to the market, which could greatly expand household penetration for the format.

April 9, 2007 TOKYO, Japan (AP) Toshiba Corp. has filed a complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission and sued 17 companies, alleging infringement of its DVD patents, the Japanese electronics maker said Monday. The commission is an independent federal agency that checks on unfair trade practices and copyright infringements.

Toshiba filed a complaint Friday to the commission against the 17 companies, mostly Hong Kong and Chinese manufacturers and importers.

Also Friday, Toshiba filed a lawsuit demanding monetary damages to the same companies in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. Toshiba spokeswoman Yuko Sugahara declined to comment on the damage amount.

Toshiba licenses DVD patents, but the companies, including Daewoo Electronics America Inc. of the U.S., Dongguan GVG Digital Technology of China and Star Light Electronics Co. of Hong Kong, don't have such licensing agreements, Toshiba said. Imported DVD products are sold without proper permission, the company said.

"The infringement of Toshiba's patents by these companies has damaged Toshiba's DVD-related business, and also caused damage to the legitimate and licensed DVD product manufacturing and distribution and business as a whole," Tokyo-based Toshiba said in a statement.

APRIL 20 | Wal-Mart apparently has ordered 2 million HD DVD players from China to sell at a target price of $299, according to a report out of Taiwan.

The introduction of low-priced Chinese-manufactured DVD players in Wal-Mart and other outlets in the U.S. helped spur the growth of the DVD format in its early years. A translation of the story was uploaded on the AVS Forum.
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Lumbo - 588 days 17 hours ago

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"all movie studios have gone neutral"

amazon.com search for hd-dvd + Disney: No results match your search for "hd-dvd disney" in DVD.

yes, Disney gone so neutral that they decided not to bring any hd-dvd to the marked, compared to a quite nice list of bluray titles .. yes, thats pretty neutral .. in your strange dreams, indeed.

"Fox pulled all upcoming Blu-Ray titles" :

http://www.fox.co.uk/bluray...

strange, nothing like that on the fox page, maybe you should stay at the facts instead of your made up stuff to make a point.

the original "news" had "Blue ray HD DVD" in it, all over the place, combined with references to core BluRay companies, and comparisons to BluRay players price wise.

So in fact there is about as much backing for a "cheap BluRay player by WalMart" as there is backing for a cheap HD-DVD player. Until WalMart comes out with the facts NOTHING is clear, and no amount of FUD you throw around will change that.

People have understood by now that you are agenda driven, and they see right through your cheap attempts and bend "facts" so just drop it, its neither working nor funny.

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ITR - 589 days 1 hour ago

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"Its advantage is more easily with existing DVD discs maintain compatibility, and may continue to use existing DVD production equipment CDs and facilitate the expansion of the distance between lens and do not need, such as CD-ROM cartridges, substantially reduced from the current transition to HD DVD, the cost for the DVD, makes disc manufacturers switch from DVD to HD DVD when the costs can be reduced to a minimum."

That sure does sound like HD-DVD.

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deep - 589 days 1 hour ago

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UH STFU already! lol. Let's wait pweeeeease

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solojohlo - 589 days 1 hour ago

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can someone just release a press brief clearing this up one way or the other

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Captain Bibto - 589 days 1 hour ago

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I'm currently living in Taiwan, so I asked my girlfriend what she makes of the story. Unfortunately, she is not very tech savvy, so she is also not sure to which format it refers to.

The article uses the name 藍光DVD. It seems that 藍光 is used to refer to both HD formats. The 藍光 is used to differentiate them from the red light DVD's. So according to my girlfriend, 藍光DVD can refer to either. It might even refer to a hybrid drive by the look of things.

The only other thing I could think of, was to use Chinese search engines to search for 藍光DVD. Doing this yields more results for Bluray than HD-DVD. Go to tw.bid.yahoo.com (local auction site) and search for "藍光DVD".

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Laka - 589 days ago

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Quote= "hi everyone...this is my first post and i am from Malaysia. Just spoken to a friend in Taiwan and he has confirmed with someone in Fuh Yuan that these are HD DVD players not BLU RAY.
According to him, these HD DVD players are supposed to be be entering production somewhere in August 2007 and the first batches should reach Walmart by October 2007.
Further...they are giving comments like the yield rates for HD DVDs are above 90% while BLU RAY's yield is around 50%. i supposed it's not news anymore that they also said that BLU RAY costs way too much to manufacture.
There are leaks(in between the lines) that the HD DVD market is going to explode next year.
Right now Fuh Yuan is trying very hard to figure out how to combine multiple chips onto a single board to cut costs rather than using several boards combined.
Hope this helps...
till the next time...
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Laka - 589 days ago

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Another qoute from the same poster" hi everyone....all right..the two chinese characters actually means "blue light".
sorry for the confusion...so it's blue light HD DVD.i thought it was a combo player.
Then again,we cleared things up a bit with Fuh Yuan...i can safely say that it is actually HD DVD players that are coming from them.
i hope i may be able to obtain a unit from them almost at cost...usually their manufacturers sell in bulk but typical profit per unit are low(usually USD10)
However,i expect to pay an extra USD40 per unit as i don't order in bulk quantities(something like a container load)
will post some more if there's any further news...
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power of Green - 588 days 21 hours ago

12 - #7 LOL

LOL. STFU already?" we're not the one reaching" by posting something that we think is the same thing/story/subject as the orignal one everybodies trying ti figure out. LOL he told himself above all others to STFU. lol Blue-light-HD-DVD Toshiba Technoligy is comint to Walmart.

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deep - 588 days 19 hours ago

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I did not post it for a foregone conclusion. I posted it to show everyone that we still have no idea! That's the reason, and the more we talk about it the more we get confused, so the STFU was merely a friendly...let's wait. SO POG stop reaching for insults.

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chrno6 - 588 days 21 hours ago

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藍光 = bluray

I am chinese, end of argument.

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Laka - 588 days 21 hours ago

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If it's BR, there's no hope for hd dvd now, but it's not. So keep dreamming. 2 Million hd dvd players or more are coming to Walmart and the maint thing is they are promoting only hd dvd. If this isn't big thing for hd dvd, I don'tknow what. Sometimes you need to accept reality, reality's not always pretty.

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eques judicii - 588 days 20 hours ago

15 - Here's what my girlfriend translated... sorry if the chinese doesn't work

國人研發機芯　藍光DVD接百億訂單
People of our nation invent ??? Blue light DVD receive tens billions
(sorry~ I'm always confused of these number translation, they don't
words sounds similar, but the number doesn't match = =) dollars order

台灣又有一項科技產業，為國爭光，
Once again Taiwan has a technology business, gaining pride to the country,
最新發明的藍光DVD播放機，
The newest invented blue light DVD playing device,
高畫質、高容量，
(are of) high quality and volume.
傳統機器只能讀取4.7G光碟，
Traditional ones could only read 4.7G disc,
不過藍光DVD可以讀取高達50G以上相當12部電影的光碟，
yet the blue light DVD can read as high as 50G or more which is
equivalent to 12 movie discs.
未上市先轟動，
Before it's out, it's already rocking the market.
甚至接到美國訂單，預估產值高達101億。
It has even received orders from US, estimated of the value as high as
10.1 billion.
火車開進車站，畫面逼真，好像親臨現場，
Train entering the station, display so real, as if you're watching the
actual sight in there.
這台DVD放映機畫質棒，解析度高，
This DVD playing device gives high quality picture, clear resolution,
容量甚至達到前所未有的新高。
Volume (Vanessa: ...or I guess it means memory??) has receive the
height like never before.
藍光DVD機芯發明人鄧鴻吉：
Blue light DVD "movement (that's what I got from the dictionary for
機芯... if that doesn't make sense, maybe it means the core of the
device???)" inventor Tang 鴻吉 (name) said:
「藍光是50GB以上，傳統DVD是4.7GB。」
"Blue light has 50GB or higher (while) traditional DVD is (only) 4.7GB."
藍光DVD最關鍵的機芯由國人發明，
Blue light DVD's key "movement" invented by people of our nation,
不但防刮、防污損，生產成本也低，
not only does it prevents "cut?" and pollution, production cost is also lower.
甚至能和傳統DVD機器相容，
It can even tolerate with traditional DVD devices (I guess it means
they can be used together).
還沒上市，先轟動國際，
It hasn't come into the market yet, but has already became a hit
internationally.
美國知名廠商一口氣訂了2百萬台，
A famous American production factory has ordered 2 million devices.
一筆訂單高達101億元，小小一台數位播放機，成為了台灣揚名國際的利器。
One order was high as $10.1 billion, just a little numerical display
device has became a tool that gains Taiwan international fame.

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Phantom_Lee - 588 days 19 hours ago

16 - HEY....

I found this article at yahoo news tw yesterday..
and I post it as one of the coment...

and u guys miss one important thing..

it the article..the inventor is 鄧鴻吉/Deng Hongmo Kyrgyzstan
which is the same guy is the blue ray HD dvd article
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/ar...
u can find 鄧鴻吉 in that article if u cant read chinese