PlayStation Move Minority Report Tech Demo

Video of PlayStation MOVE Minority Report tech Demo

[Christopher_Walken]

This is really cool

[RememberThe357]

And they say the Move is just a glorified Wii Mote...

[Timesplitter14]

You know that part where he puts the PS3mote on his head and looks around in the room?

Imagine an FPS that plays like that. You have one PS3mote on your head to look around and one in your right or left hand to shoot and walk with the joystick.

I think the PS3's answer to motion sensing is the only way to make real hardcore games with motion sensing

Well it would actually work better with 3 PS3motes to get the traditionnal FPS controls plus the head movement (left stick = walk, right stick = turn the whole body, head = look around), but anyway

[Mista T]

console war over, pack it in

but anyway this is amazing

[Timesplitter14]

oh um... screw my idea.

If you move your head around, you can't see the TV anymore, lol

(god damnit)

[acedoh]

I really can't wait to see how developers augment this into games. Can you imagine being able to multi function in a game like Agent. Which is making me think it may use Move. Checking out a map and using Google to do a satellite search and then checking another screen to search files. It reminds me a lot of the device in Heavy Rain called ARI... This can really create a whole new genre of games. On top of that it will be able to do many other functions. Watching downloadable content on a portion of the screen while checking the internet. It really is a way to future proof the PS3.

[morganfell]

The sensitivity would be set so you only have to move your head a little and look 90 degrees to one side. This is how Track IR works on the PC. You can actually look behind you in a game by only turning your head a few inches. But Move takes that idea, puts it on steroids and then evolves it.

[br41n5c4n]

Cool technology, but I'm not about to hold a f***ing flashlight horizontally to a well respected 12-hour game... I have the eye already and it is f***ing useless.....

[Neo604]

now you can see the pseye can do anything Natal can do.

[feelintheflow]

in the movie Minority Report, they weren't holding a controller, just gloves. Looks awesome, but come on, not quite the same thing.

Edit: Really, they did use controllers? I am guessing the guys who disagreed with me must have watched a different movie than I. Silly Fanboys. I wasn't dissing the tech, I said it looked awesome, I just was saying that they shouldn't exactly call it minority report.

[Yeti42]

@Timesplitter

My thesis is pretty much about what you just said. A portable headtracking system for moving through environments in first person. And you're right, moving your head makes your view of the display change or even disappear, but there are ways around this.... ;)

[DarkTower805]

The Move has been known to be 3D since the 1st tech demo at E3 2009. So take your flaimbait "bu bu but" comment and gtfo the gamer zone. Can't there be one intelligent thread without flaimbait comments?

[menoyou]

this is AMAZING. i cant imagine the possibilities. im almost hoping they abandon the regular controller after seeing this. wow, just wow.

[-Alpha]

Wait till they have the games centered around motion control. Games built up around this concept can really be revolutionary. And just like that I'm hyped for motion control again

[Ravage27]

wish they had time to implement it in Heavy Rain. Such a shame, it could have been a wonderful showcase of the technology. Maybe QD's next project will be revolve around Move?

Really cool stuff being shown here and can you imagine doing all that in true 3D?

I was crazy about RTS a few years back...now i have a reason to be excited again :)

[TheTwelve]

For the first time, I'm excited about Playstation Move. Goodness.

12

[nveenio]

The gloves in Minority Report had lights on the pointer finger and thumb. The real technological leap in that movie was the screen...not the glove.

[hetz15]

This is awesome... can't wait to buy them :)

[tizack]

I think 2 years back sony did a demo of head detection and tracking using just the ps eye. So the move isn't even necessarily needed for this concept to work... on topic, that video was pretty sweet...

[Neo604]

so are you the one that said Natal is the only 3D camera?

[jack_burt0n]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

first part of the show but with no sound >_< still worth watching.

there are 3 other parts.

edit:notice how much he throws it up in the air lol they have been reading N4G and Gaf seen the gif.

[Bigpappy]

For the PC: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Ravage27]

a 3D horror game where you use the Move as a torchlight/camera (as shown in the video) as you investigate and interact with the world around you.

3D and the horror genre - a match made in heaven. Combined with a unique control scheme, it could be the killer app Sony's looking for

[DarkTower805]

sorry, I'm not a fanboy like you nor would I ever wish to be. One day when you grow up, you'll take a step back and see how foolish your comments are.

[sikbeta]

Just WOW! Simply Awesome, I not going say it's revolutionary and such, but what I Watched is Simply Epic, I'm out of the motion-trend, but This Video is jaw-dropping, Amazing...

[Vincent VII]

DAY 1 BUY

[bot slayer]

COOL

[I LOVE GAMES]

WOW

[The Maxx]

Sorry...Not as good as this.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/m...

Move looks a little awkward with what he was doing and holding 2 controllers.

I prefer the REAL minority report without the use of controllers and just using your hands.....kind of like NATAL.

[insomnium]

Ofc you prefer a Natal-like approach. Everyone knows that already there's no point in saying it.

[yesah]

having a 360 degree television, and two motion controllers to control a fps. One on your head, and one for your gun. So look around to look around and move the gun one to move the gun, would be amazing.

[ChozenWoan]

Natal... nor PSEye can truly track your hands like in minority report unless your pretty close to the camera. At least with PSMove you can be as far back as about 10-12 feet and still have 1 centimeter accuracy.

[HolyOrangeCows]

"Why don't YOU guys make the games?"

LOL, good question. The tech demo guys have such cool ideas and most of the GDC games were so freaking lame.

[HSx9]

I'm sure Natal can provide better things.

/sarcasm

[Triella]

They demoed head tracking back in 2004 with the EyeToy :
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Kevin ButIer]

You look hot on that pic Mr Trenton

[ico92]

i remember when i saw Minority Report when i was about 10 , and i always wondered if sometime in future, we would be able to control a dashboard or OS like in the movie, the funny thing is i didnt expect the technology to come so soon.

[sonic speed]

cool

[vhero]

Half the stuff in this video Natal could not do especially the 3D stuff as you would need the remote for full 360 degree turns. Natal only does basic directions as great as it is. Eyetoy was also limited to this. Great video just showing raw power and doesn't use any noticeable power of the PS3.

[Karum]

Well technically they did have controllers of sorts in Minority Report. What else would you call those gloves that had the little light sensors or w/e on them?

I'd say by definition those are controllers.

Wasn't me that hit disagree though.

[Leio]

o_O thats some nice shieat

[shawnsl65]

They better start working on some horror games with this controller STAT!

I could see this working with Heavy Rain type games.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

can not be worded.

Alan Wake would be a perfect fit for the Playstation Move.

[zoks310]

That's pretty cool.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Sony has been using 3DV camera's for a while now and they have come to a conclusion that it is basically useless. I feel sorry for Natal. It will bring nothing new that the ordinary PSEye can't do.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Still no PUBLIC tech demo's of Natal. MS themselves can't deliver on their promises.

Natal will flop. PS Move on the other hand, will be amazing.

[Jamegohanssj5]

I don't get the whole Minority Report thing. Can someone explain to me?

TGSI

[frostypants]

You're deluded if you think Natal will be able to pull this off. It's going to be EXTREMELY limited in the types of games it can do. It's doomed to be a one-trick pony.

And I own both systems. Natal just screams gimmick. It's old technology with lots of marketing hype behind it.

[ChickeyCantor]

" magine an FPS that plays like that. You have one PS3mote on your head to look around and one in your right or left hand to shoot and walk with the joystick. "

Look around where?
Unless your TV is your wall(by projection)
Other than that there is no point.

[thesummerofgeorge]

You wouldn't literally need to turn your head all the way around, just like a mouse only requires you to move it a bit to the right to turn your character all the way around your head would only need to look to the right or left of the screen to turn the camera, the more you turn your head the faster the camera turns.

[ChickeyCantor]

That doesn't work for sh/t =/
Humans turn their head to view what they want to see, you will be tilting and turning your head just to focus on something and then recenter your view.
Doesnt even make sense at all.

[IaMs12]

im sorry but if people are saying you will look stupid playing the Natal you will look even stupider playing an FPS holding a the PS3mote on your head. Sorry but i think thats an even worse idea, work yes, but best no. Anyways not bad, look like either way we go it will be great.

[ThanatosDMC]

Silent Hill game and Move... hmmm...

[Gradient]

Revolutionary.

[morganfell]

Bubbles. There isn't a better word. If you think it is cool seeing this now, just think what they will pull out for E3.

Some games let you have a flashlight in a game, this lets you actually hold it in your hand...in 3D.

[acedoh]

will attract just about anyone to the PS3. Wii like games to a whole new level. Hard core games become something totally new to play. PC gamers will now have the accuracy of a mouse in shooters. The people who see this in action will become believers just as I have. I traded in my Wii after six months. I didn't have a lot of faith in Move. That is until now. I am excited for what this will be capable of and what will come over the next few years.

[Therealspy1776]

it's just a slightly more sensitive wii mote. nintendo's idea was revolutionary. it's because of their success MS and Sony even bother.

why is it that only sony can do stuff right? explain it to me please. for the last 6 months i've had to hear from the ps3 troop that natal is lame (which i agree with), but suddenly this is cool? no...it's just as lame. if you wanna play gimmicky little games like they get for the wii for the most part, then yeah, this can be fun. but it's not what the hardcore wants...or wanted. apparently it's not what the hardcore wanted til ps3 fanboys found out ps3 is doing it, now it's great. this hypocrisy is really getting old.

and look up the word "revolutionary" before tossing it around like it means "mundane." look it up along with 'hypocrite'

bye bubbles (can't say anything bad or even neutral about ps3 here on 'News' for "Gamers")

@below: Fine, then say it's a nice improvement. but it's nothing new. it's not an original idea. it's just another stolen one where they had 3 years to improve upon it but weren't willing to take the risk til they saw if nintendo could pull it off. so my point still stands. and of course i watched the video. A 2D space called 3D because you can change angles just like in every other current console on the market. i'm sure if nintendo wanted to develop a demo where your wii mote controls the motion of a camera, it would look exactly the same.

bottom line is, it's only revolutionary when sony says it's their technology...even when we all know it isn't.

[acedoh]

You fail to comment on what was shown. The Wii was revolutionary. This takes the Wii motion to a whole new level. Having a camera with a more advanced console makes a world of difference. Despite what you may believe. Being able to multi function is a big asset. Not just to gaming but just about anything. Maybe nothing will come of all this. And then again maybe we will see some amazing games that use these abilities. I guess only time will tell...

[br41n5c4n]

Right on acedoh.. Motion controls for gaming = 3-d for film...RUIN!!!!!!!!! BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the powerglove was the very first in motion controls!!!! it was found in the $5 bins after its failure, but it was the first and it was made by Nintendo..So the big N wins afterall.

[acedoh]

make the PS3 a great long term investment. You have advanced motion control and soon 3d gaming and movies. These are all things that have existed. I played 3D games on my Sega Master System with the glasses. I played motion gaming on the PS2 and Wii. Now it goes to a whole new level that keeps it exciting. As long as SONY supports it and doesn't dump it like we have seen console makers do with add ons...

[jack_burt0n]

@acedoh

thats the strongest part all 3rd party nintendo developers are struggling so there is going to be the instant support of a whole slew of developers/publishers that will ensure it gets support it might mean sony needing to be pretty aggressive about getting it into homes but they could bundle 1 move and the eyetoy with every ps3 for 2 months and kickstart the hell out of it.

[Joule]

Make.Believe

[acedoh]

They need to put it into every PS3 at whatever cost. You can't expect success unless everyone who buys a PS3 has it whether they wanted it or not. If you make it optional it will only segment the group. If you pack it into all future PS3's then even existing consumers will want it.

[Cueil]

I wish I had the nuts to lie to get bubbles... this kind of stuff isn't new at all

[Christopher]

Care to provide links to the videos that shows the 3d manipulation of of objects and environments that were shown in the video using a motion controller that wasn't the PS Move?

I get that the concept of motion controllers aren't new, but the precision is above the others as shown so far and much like Natal what makes it truly shine is the software implemented with it.

[nveenio]

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It's just Sony at work again, though.

If you ask me, it was smart of Sony and Microsoft to let Nintendo test the motion market again. It's failed every other time it's ever been presented to the public. The problem was that console makers thought people didn't want motion, but the truth is that people weren't even really comfortable with computers back when the PowerGlove come out. And when things like the PowerGlove and Activator and etc, etc were released, the technology wasn't reliable enough to make the experience easy AND enjoyable. PowerGlove had sooooo many buttons. Activator was a joke. Only in recent years could motion actually make it.

As long as the developers do something with the tech besides sports games, it'll last. Otherwise, it'll just be a fad that will phase out.

[Christopher]

I'm confused... did you read what I wrote in context to what they showed in the video? Specifically, manipulating planes in a 3d field with a motion controller rather than the usual overlaying of a graphical representation for swinging a sword, which is what the title of this article is also referencing.

[XabiTheHumble]

It wasn't created by Nintendo it was created by Mattel.

[The Maxx]

LOL THAT is NOT Revolutionary..

THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY http://blog.seattlepi.com/m...

[sonic speed]

Make.Believe

[Cloud Strife VII]

This is awesome... can't wait to buy this.

[TrevorPhillips]

woow technology these days are evolving real fast :)

[I LOVE GAMES]

Make.Believe

[palaeomerus]

Sorry 'Just the Facts', but yes NATAL probably WILL be able to do ALL of this.

It's nice to whine about NATAL is imprecise and only does dumb party games with big red balls like Kevin Butler told you, and you can use really old quotes to fool yourself into believing that silly crap but I think you'll find that YES natal can do this.

In fact this is easily probably reproducible on a laptop with a web camera since that's all a playstation eye is.

How would Natal do it? NATAL sees the end of your arm and has "depth" while doing so which lets you manipulate the two cursors with now controllers and it sees the sillohuette of your hand (it doesn't need to see your finger joints to do this it just looks at the 2d shape of your hand and recognize a basic shape) and so recognizes a 'gesture' (it can also recognize facial expressions) and poof you now have a way to open and close windows and do other things.

Huge precision isn't NEEDED for any of that "minority support graphical interface stuff". I mean the worst that can happen is "Oh no! My rectangle is slightly too small!"

Remember, if the playstation eye can do it the Natal can do it too. In fact it should be easy to have the Natal follow a light source color or reflector just like the Move does and get the tilt information from looking at your skeleton. (That ought to be a really easy patent to break!)

Wii will be able to do this too. In fact it can already do most of it. All it needs is a camera and given that Nintendo was the first company to come out with a gaming camera...it already has a conference call style microphone.

But if it makes you feel better then keep quoting a comedic actor in commercials and keep basing your assumptpions about NATAL on people who have no idea what they are talking about or really old interviews with Kudo. I'm sure that will work out for you really well. Until E3.

[halojunkie]

slap me and call me a one legged parot, this is incredible.

[iceman06]

SLAP!!! You're a one-legged parrot!!! Feel better now!?!? *LOL*

[palaeomerus]

The graphics manipulation stuff was essentially the MS Surface/iPod-touch style of controls, done in 3d (height), with a couple of flashlight shaped things as your fingers.

It was nice how quickly the program mapped the video to a 3d tensioned soft-body rectangle though and gave it gravity and an illusion of airesitance to let it slowly drift to the virtual floor in the desktop and flatten out.

The camera trick was just panning, tilting, and zooming the camera image around on blackbackground, not very much different than what the long haired Incognito/warhawk dev was doing with the sixaxis motion control at E3 2006 only with a Move controller.

I hate to be the poop flinger here but Natal will likely be capable of doing all of this with out needing a controller. It will be able to look at your hands, recognize a gesture and bingo-bango. MS thinks you will use it to watch movies, browse some sort of network they are building, use the NXE and other stuff. And they are talking about having it be fairly platform independint meaning Natal may work with(or have separate versions for) WIdows PC's and ZunePhone and any other mobile/living room appliance MS wants to put out.

Not that I'm being triumphalist here. Natal still has to actually work and be easy to set up and MS is known for being a bit literal and comprehensive rather than pithy in their interface designs. Also it needs to be cheap and attractive or the whole thing is a waste of time and energy.

MS thinks their version of motion control is a killer app and THE big future interface even for productivity and presentation software. They may not be the best people to develop and introduce it to the public though. MS mostly refines stuff and undercuts the 'ludicrous' pricing of their more innovative competitors until they control the market. That's why Apple is the niche/boutique/cult PC brand these days using mostly off the shelf PC tech. That's why no one under 28 has ever heard of 'Word Perfect' or 'Lotus 123'. That's why Netscape is called Mozilla now. But MS can be clunky and esoteric with their message. That's why their high-concept $400 '360' faux ipod hipster branding tripped over the goofy 'hoody with a blazer'/Velocity Grrl t-shirt sales presentation and left people scratching their heads and wondering what "welcome to the social" is supposed to mean. People were supposed to be hypnotized by the shiny visionary future of the living room as a virtual creative community full of colaberation and commerce and instead they asked "why does J Allard look like Michael Stipe working a late shift at a coffee house? " Only Wired magazine ever really got it and they didn't much care because they were already doing most of that stuff on laptops. MS also predicts a "cloudy" future so they need their future hardware to be more flexible, and input/output and network software oriented and less 'independent hardware console' oriented. The next big MS "game" hardware might just be a standard, a software framework, and big honking network to hook up to instead of a an actual machine. I think MS essentially wants to be your subscription cable company and the guy who makes the stuff that makes everyone else's cable company work in case you'd rather deal with a middle man.

Wii KNOWS this stuff is a killer app 'cause they've killed with an early form of it by linking it to health, self improvement, and easy social gaming in their broad based marketing. If MS or Sony does start to get their goat we'll see whatever they have planned for succeeding the Wii. I'm betting it's essentially a very flexable iPhone with hardcore media capabilties so sexy you want to rub it that docks with your TV to be both a mobile and a console at the same time and uses all sorts of plastic dohickeys to ANYTHING you want it to.

Sony is trying to get a big 'ol foot in the door that they can expand on later that is fairly simple in approach.

I dunno man. The future is looking kind of scary. :)

[JustTheFactsMr]

"I hate to be the poop flinger here but Natal will likely be capable of doing all of this with out needing a controller. "

Wrong Poop Finger. Natal can't detect if your pointing. That's from the mouth of the Creative Director of Natal. That's why you have only seen a bouncy ball demo with people slapping at stuff with their whole hand.

Party games. With less precision than the original Wii controller.

[jamesrocks3147]

will be revolutionary.

[MGOelite]

DAM 2:10 onwards is impressive tech

[Wrathman]

yeah....for a conference

it looks like a big game of RISK

[damnightmare]

Awww I think Wrathman is getting jealous :O

[Devil MAY KILL]

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[Devil MAY KILL]

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LAGTAL IS BETTER.

[Vincent VII]

LAGTAL KILLER CONFIRMED.

[ghamdikh2]

SUCK IT BOTS.

[bot slayer]

SUCK IT MOTHER FACKERS

[Assassin Creed]

XBITXHES

[infekt]

Talk about ripping M$ another hole..

[Cloud Strife VII]

AMAZING

[Berserk1]

Epic

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

I am not a fan of all this Motion control stuff but that looked well cool!!! ;-P

If 1 company can take Motion control to the 'Next Level' it will be SONY!!! ;)
(i.e the Wii + Project NUT-AL are just TOYS 4 KIDS!!!) ;-D

[Wrathman]

natal could do this without waving 2 bobble headed dongs.like the real minority report.

[MGOelite]

on minority report he has a sensor glove so there is some input, unlike natal. so believe it or not move is closer

[HypermysticsonicHMSX]

Well.. atleast you can catch red balls...83

[Comet]

Those guys look like little kids all over a new gift that they got for Christmas ;D

[MGOelite]

annoying thing is that even though its 10x better, move wont be as popular as natal as its classed as more "revolutionary" i would like to see natal do this

[acedoh]

unless Natal can really live up to it's own hype it will crash. Their promo videos were amazing and voice recognition would make Natal a must have but I really don't see it happening. Just like Microsoft demoing a table pc that was basically a screen on your table that was touch screen. It was impressive but still is not real. I think Microsoft likes smoke and mirrors to hype up the masses...

[Godmars290]

There's nothing in that video that wasn't able to do itself in the first place.

If Move is what they need to get people, much less themselves, interested in the PSeye so be it, just hope that Sony uses whatever success or momentum they pick up from this they remember what's exactly behind it.

[Godmars290]

Move *IS* half of Sony's MC. The camera, which has been almost since the PS3 itself is the other. Move, wen you're not thinking about it from a fanboy perspective, is a mo-cap point that gives the PSeye depth perception.

[jack_burt0n]

I think they are trying to say, move will shift more cameras in one day than the eye has in its lifetime, if you watch the whole show he talks about how the eye in both cases never had enough backing from anyone except scee.

[Godmars290]

You mean the PSeye plus Move will move more than the PSeye's moved by itself.

What I'm saying is that if that happens I hope Sony and others don't become fixated on just the PSeye+Move. That they develop PSeye only aps along with Move games. When the PS3 launched there were tons of videos showing tons of visual effects it was capable of. I just don't want to see that go to waste.

But then I also want to see a Move version of Steel Gunners.

[jack_burt0n]

the whole show was great, move has nailed augmented reality, body recognition and simple wii motion controls with one product, after the whole show I cant wait to try it.

just giving developers the opportunity to innovate or simply port wii games in HD from a business point of view is win win.

if u watched the whole show and were not intrigued by move then u cant be a fan of technology.

[br41n5c4n]

A horror film unfolding in your living room would be pretty creepy

[MajestieBeast]

Show that horror game you keep putting in the montage's!

[Assassin Creed]

BABY DAY 1

[DEADEND]

I can see the next PlayStation to have move but with gloves like in Minority Report.

[supremacy]

is good and it will show many, that move isn't just about the controls but the camera as well.

basically improving on an old tech such as the eyetoy and taking 2 markets in the process.

it has become quite clear to me that Sony has always aim at making the ps3 the hybrid of all consoles. the Bentley of consoles if you will, and personally that's no exaggeration if you take into account everything the system has to offer out of the box.

wifi + ethernet, DVD+bluray+Divx, built in power supply+ power efficient.
blutooth+six axes+rumble( and those can be charged right off the ps3 itself with a simple usb cable which by the way comes packed with the unit, no double A or triple A batteries needed as they come built in to each controller standard), wireless blutooth that works as both a headset and a stand alone mic when charging on its dock, free online play+web browser, 3D gaming+PlayStation share, now pseye+motion controls.

and all that's in conjunction with all the great 1st party games the platform has, and will continue to get over the next several months and years to come.

ill say the ps3 is the best bang for your buck.

[L-Teezy]

speaks the truth

[aCHU]

this was OMGODLY!
what a revolutionary experience it was to just WATCH the damn impressive video.

just like sony said "the future begins when we say it does" (i think thats how it went)

im sry but natal might be a more popular product do to micro's heavy heavy advertising they said they will incorporate but Sony's MOVE will continue to push the gaming industry forward like they allways have and prep us all for the future.

[I LOVE GAMES]

Revolution

[lonix]

I want it now!

This isn't just the future of gaming
it's the future of presentations and computing

imagine a glove with lots of glowing balls on the knuckles

[coolcole93]

My knuckles are often near my balls, so that doesn't sound too exciting.

[lonix]

You might wanna get that checked

[AXAXAX]

Why didn't the dude code this in time for Sony show it off at GDC!!!
This is incredible!!!!

[TANUKI]

LOL "it's required by law [to have a picture of Jack Treton]"

MAN, that was VERY impressive!

[stonecold1]

know if eyeidentify still coming to the ps3 because i havent heard from along time it will be awsome with the move

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

This would work a lot better on NATAL since it scans individual fingers on your hand. Much better than holding those ridiculous microphones.

[Nitrowolf2]

when NATAL shows some thing worth seeing other then some dude hitting balls then i will care, until then this is more impressive then NATAL. Although they have said it scans the body there is nothing that they have shown yet that is worth proving that other then a ball game. I can't wait till E3 it is going to be big this year and i can't wait to see which will offer the most at E3

Edited at the guys below:
tbh no one should hate on them, i am going to admit it MOVE does has some lag if you notice in this video, NATAL lags also but is that a reason to fuss about? I will fuss when it is released and if either of them lags i will be very dissapointed in them. Imagine playing Socom 4, there was little Lag in this for every move he did, but that is going to matter allot in socom trust me, between normal controllers and motion MOVE there will be a different if its like this, which i have no doubt that it will be fixed, same with NATAL, but like i said i will be very dissapointed if either lags. They both have allot of potential for move at first i didn't know it did 3d also and now that i know that, i can see better games being made because they are taking advantage of the 3D option in MOVE and NATAL.

[i_am_interested]

sure whatever

im sure natal could handle the super accurate move rotations he did after he stretched the kevin butler picture and started bending

/sarcasm

[Erotic Sheep]

Have to agree with Nitro, even tho using fingers would work better, MS still has to show stuff like this so there is no point claiming anything.

[supremacy]

whats your problem seriously, why do you always have to hate on everything Sony. c'mon its ok you can tell us we wont tell the world.

as far as natal goes i don't hate it, and i welcome it with open arms. but without buttons i still don't know how this thing is supposed to work.

but then again no one knows for sure about natal until more things are reveal.

so....why do you seem to hate Sony so much? you always seem to underrate their efforts in every way possible even if they (your reasons) don't make much sense.

i mean what is it to you, what dopes it get you? do you feel some sort of achievement by doing what you do? some self pride or something? some self righteousness or maybe its the attention you are after. which is it?

[bboss]

not doubting Natals potential but yeah MS gotta show something at least on par from what Sony is showing us on their tech demos.

[RememberThe357]

Trust me, don't take him so seriously.

[bjornbear]

studio footage (fake)

laggy problematic gameplay of...red balls and Burnout: Paradise and BAM! there it is...

i can't wait for Halo: Reach to come out so you finally get off N4G and go finally have a game to play on your 360 again (after you get it back from the shop for fixing)

[JustTheFactsMr]

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Can you point and shoot with Natal? Does it track the direction of your finger, and thus mirror the infra-red beam element of the Nintendo Wii controller?

For the shooting game example, Tsunoda reckons that POINTING won't work, but that you could position your arms as they would be when carrying, say, a shotgun. Which is all well and good, but assuming that Natal CAN'T PINPOINT the MOVEMENT of your FINGERS, it's never going to know when you're pulling the virtual trigger.

In respect of direct pointing at the display, both the Nintendo Wii remote and, I suspect, the PlayStation motion controller will have the better of it."

[Projekt7tuning]

@ bjornbear 7.7
Your a hypocrite. When are you going to get a game to get off N4G as well? I love both my systems, and like to read relevant comments, so can you stay the hell out of the 360 articles? Or has you hate for Natal and the 360 turned into obsession? You are in almost every 360 article everyday. Iv have been a supporter of Natal, Wii, and ps3/Move because I am a gamer who loves games, not a piece of plastic. Almost everyone above has bashed Natal, Now everyone suddenly sees the the potential these technologies offer to us because it on the Ps3 finally. I will say a game as a gamer you are a hypocrite.

[theIMP]

I don't think he hates sony I think he hates all you sony fanboys that don't know what side of the fence your on when it come to motion controls. Yall flip flop more than beach shoes, and it is funny. Then you jump on anyone who doesn't agree with your view. Truly pathetic, and try to spin this comment, I know you will. Here i'll do it for you theIMP is probably 12 in his moms basement, he needs a life , Blah, blah, blah, but the truth is none of you cowards would dare talk that $hit to some ones face, and I would. not only would I say it I would also make YOU STFU. Say I couldn't/wouldn't you don't know me, but I do know what coward smells like...just like N4G. There now ya'll can steam on that for a while.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

"This would work a lot better on NATAL since it scans individual fingers on your hand. Much better than holding those ridiculous microphones."

Too bad Natal can't scans your individual fingers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Can you point and shoot with Natal? Does it track the direction of your finger, and thus mirror the infra-red beam element of the Nintendo Wii controller?

"For the shooting game example, Tsunoda reckons that POINTING won't work, but that you could position your arms as they would be when carrying, say, a shotgun. Which is all well and good, but assuming that Natal CAN'T PINPOINT the MOVEMENT of your FINGERS, it's never going to know when you're pulling the virtual trigger."

[strickers]

I thought Natal recognises hands as one point of articulation.It does not see individual fingers.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Natal has to show something first. I don't see why it couldn't, but it hasn't done much of anything yet. I'm going to reserve judgment after E3.

I'm not entirely sold on the finger thing anyway. Just don't think it would be fun throwing up game signs to control a game.

[gta2800]

Nothing is gonna work better on Natal. Only basic mini games that you just go forward and that's it. Explain to me this. If you're playing a 3rd person shooter and someone is shooting you from behind, how will you turn around to shoot? cause you obviously have to literally turn your body, then you wont see squat. The only thing Natal has done better so far is hype.

[Erotic Sheep]

This is really cool..

[Cloud Strife VII]

HELL ya

[Luthiens1]

Enjoyed that vid, very interesting!
Edit: @ halo pro got any footage too back that up dude?
Edit: @ beans that's what sony seem to be on top of, the more I see of move the more I want it.

[Stationfan]

Its awsome that if I want the wii HD experience, it will only cost me 100.00 just imagine that it's like buying a whole new console experience and it's only less than a 100.

[jack_burt0n]

As he said in the interview they are treating it like a console launch, as long as they keep a steady stream of reveals and info coming over the summer its going to work imo.

[gamingisnotacrime]

you can basically step INTO an area and look around, oh please Demons Souls 2 use this and i will buy the move first day. One can always dream right

[Nitrowolf2]

demon souls 2 was the first game i was thinking of to use MOVE, what a great game to bring Hardcore gaming to what most would think of as thing for only mini games. i hope sony does it

[beans]

Not impressed one bit! Hopefully Sony can get there move motion controller up to par by E3.

[blasian]

and hopefully Microsoft will actually show people something other than a little boy and hitting red balls

[MajestieBeast]

beans you must like the pew pew pew of natal.

[bjornbear]

do you have 13ft of free space where your xbox 360 is?

if not...you're going to have to resort to the Move is you want a next gen motion control experience..

[Projekt7tuning]

@12.3
Go read that article one more time. I know you know where it is, you troll 360 articles all day. Read it once more and read his verbiage. Its effective up to 13ft. Please just stop.

[I LOVE GAMES]

LOL

[Gamer7l]

...in Minority Report, he wasn't holding anything in his hands. That's why Natal has been compared to Minority Report....and why Sony looks really desperate and silly doing this. :o

[doa766]

did you actually see minority report?

Tom Cruise had gloves with tracking lights on his hands

look at this picture you retard: http://willscullypower.file...

[kneon]

Here it is, the lights are clearly visible.

[Gamer7l]

...and you don't HOLD gloves. The "tracking lights" did the same thing that Natal does BY DESIGN. Natal "tracks" your skeletal mass, like virtual mo-cap, viewing your digits, joints, arms and legs as having the "lights" or "balls" on them. Maybe you should do a little more research, before attempting such a stupid rebuttal. :o

[bjornbear]

at watching movies

let me explain:

Minority Report tech = tracker

Move = tracker

Natal = nothing, thats why its un precise, laggy and problematic (you need to have 13ft of space, people cant walk around behind you)

[TheTwelve]

Gamer --- good job clowning yourself.

12

[doa766]

who cares if you hold the sensors or wear them? both on Minority Report and Move the tech is tracking movement of sensors attached to hands

Natal doesn't track anything, it works on image recognition, that's why its so laggy and imprecise

for the sake of our collective gen pool I really hope you never have kids

[palaeomerus]

In Minority report Tom Cruise 'held' (wore) a wireless data-glove that let him interact with the stuff on the screen and quite possibly that glove had some form of force feedback or induced nuerological haptics data so he could FEEL the simulated sensations of those virtual interface objects brushing against his hand.

At least that's how I interpreted it.

I guess now we just need the free floating holograms and we can all wave our arms around and look like goons while ordering degradable soft-core porn streamed off of Amazon.

[VINNIEPAZ]

You guys should really watch the whole demo video. You could see the lag, and even one of them pointed it out. And there were a few glitches. I loved how when they gave the remotes to the guys they went straight to acting like 6 year olds like, "can I do this, can I do this" and jumping around. Its was not ya average controlled environment and I love that so you can see how it really performs. And like I said it had glitches.

Now to clear up what I said becuz I know the PS3 fanboys sh!t storm is coming my way becuz you cant handle OPINIONS other than ya own. I'm fully aware this is tech demo stuff and I know it will improve a lot before release, so I'm not that alarmed when I do buy the Move.

I repeat, I'm NOT BASHING this. I didnt buy a $600 PS3 to see it flop. All I'm saying is I hope the next tech demo (when ever that is) shows a lot more promise. As I hope Xbox can show more than just ball swatting. Anybody that wants Move or Natal to fail is just a hater. Why would you want something to fail when you should want these things to succeed and bring us new game play possibilities.

Be a gamer not a hater

[RememberThe357]

Plus, The lag was so minimal and when the camera goes into first person mode it disappears completely.

[Nitrowolf2]

dont worry i notice the lag and that they said it, and like i said in one of my post MS/Sony better get this lag out other wise playing Socom 4/ a halo game with this type of lag, it will be noticable motion control vs normal controllers.

[JustTheFactsMr]

"get this lag out other wise playing Socom 4/ a halo game with this type of lag, it will be noticable motion control vs normal controllers."

Socom 4 doesn't use the camera for augmented reality like these examples. It's uses the sensors in the Move controller in conjunction with the camera tracking the Move. Because you have a controller it has the same lag as the dual shock.

But your right to be concerned about Halo.

[YoungKingDoran]

since move has a camera... wouldnt they be able to make controller-less games (if they wanted to) just like natal? im guessing they could.

[jalen247]

Of course they can. That's why Natal games won't be unique.

Third parties will port Natal games to the PS Eye.

This will allow third parties to have a larger install base for camera games (Natal and PS Eye) to sell to.

[supremacy]

just look at this video its in Spanish but... http://www.youtube.com/watc... oh well.. and another one below in English http://www.youtube.com/watc...

but basically you get an idea of how far and deep Sony was in with this sort of technology even before releasing the ps3.

and know that PlayStation move is not only capable of doing the camera thing but now also the motion control thing as well.

just saying.

[RememberThe357]

is because they realized that you need a better input system and by putting two objects in your hand along with the camera input you can do things much more precisely.

[jalen247]

I couldn't have said it better...

You my friend deserve a bubble.

[Bigpappy]

PSeye can only read side to side motions (2D), not back and forth. Natal has built in depth sensors that read back and forth and side to side (3D). Hope that is simple enough and that it helps you understand why you have to use the move controllers.

[jalen247]

Sony just won the motion control wars. Mark my words!

Game over for the competition.

You know their World Wide studios are already working on the killer apps for this technology.

[Dance]

Its going to take a lot more than a glorified Wii remote using a tech demo to knock Nintendo and MS out of some imaginary console wars

[Dance]

How about some actual games using the motion controller not some Tech Demo

[i_am_interested]

i must have completely dreamt GDC

these guys are engineers, theyre not PR or game developers

[RememberThe357]

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
http://www.n4g.com/tech/New...

[Equinoxe_7]

thumbs up :-)

[elpresador]

I mean, though it was the NXE interface, they had people using fingers and a wave of their hand to do essentially the same thing and really, minority report tracked fingers, this you have to hold a dildonic with a bumplug end in order to do it and lets be real, nothing MOVE doesz is revolutionary, they took what nintendo did and made it better.

Honestly, I dont want motion control from either side as with both it isnothing more than a lame ass attempt to try to tap into Nintendo's market. I say stick with what has been working and stop wasting resources on crap. Heck, if sony would take the money they put into move and use it to advertise their games a bit more, maybe, just MAYBE they would finally have cought up with MS. And if MS would take the money they are spending on NATAL and use it the way they should the RROD would have ben a thing of the past years ago.

Seriously people, why the crap would you want motion control? GIve me a controller or even a keyboard and mouse any day of the week.

But as someone also said, when nintendo had theirs out, most fanboys on both sides (though mainly OS3) downplayed it and called it a gimmick that they would not even try but then sony comes out with basically the same thing and all of a sudden we are in a new era of gaming. WTF man? I mean 3260 fanboys would do the same and if it were reversed, we all know PS3 fanboyus would be all over sonys scrotum if the natal was being done by sony as would 360 fanboys be all over micro's nuts if they were doing the move.

God, this has to be the crappiest gen in giming history when it comes to blind azz loyalty to a company that they do not even have AY kind of actual stake in.

[bjornbear]

these console wars have always been there

MS and SONY are the Nintendo and Sega of the new generation

also, back then = no net (not this developed anyway) so people were less exposed to fanboyism, but it was still just as present and strong, even getting into arguments with friends (stupid kid stuff xD)

so complaining about this gen is futile - its always like this with any two competitors

people naturally side with something

there are people who absolutely impartial towards something, but they also have strong preferences in others

football and sports in general, video games, technology companies, clothes companies etc...

people have preferences, some are more vocal, and sometimes more illogical about them =)

+ the navigation menu was standard menu being navigated through with natal, no actual menu manipulation at this level

[kneon]

Flicking through a predefined menu system is child's plays. I could program a DSi to do that. Sony had that working years ago on the PS2.

I'm working on some gesture recognition code right now and those sorts of broad gestures are relatively easy to detect with just about any camera, it needn't be high resolution at all. But the accuracy and responsiveness of this Sony demo was quite impressive. I've yet to see any Natal demo that comes anywhere close.

[gluv65]

MS showed you a video of people doing that, not the actual person live on stage. Natal can do it but probably not to the depth of what is being shown here.

[Nitrowolf2]

here is the reason for the gimmick thing
first thing first
allot of people still think its a gimmick for both MOVE/NATAL
second
we have seen what type of games the PS3 is capable of, and back then we expected the wii would have allot of shovel ware, giving the power of the wii (and more) to the ps3 makes things allot better considering we might not need to worry about allot of shovel ware, we can enjoy hardcore games out there.

pretty much for wii people expected shovel ware and thats exactly
what happened

also that was a vid of the interface with NATAL there is a difference

[Projekt7tuning]

@ elpresador
Don't worry your not new to gaming, your just new to N4G. You see bjornbear does not play games, he only post on N4g. its kind of like his game. Hes real good at it too. Just click on his name to see his score card. Hes has a post nearly every hour for more than 12 day in a row. Sometimes more I just stopped looking, I got the point that he a loser that's very good at N4g trolling. There was a guy a wile back just like him but I forgot his name, just like I will forget his name soon. Im sure there most likely the same guy though. Seriously look at his activity. Thats got to be some kind of record/sickness whatever you want to call it.

[Bigpappy]

here you go:

[bjornbear]

that could be uber bad news for natal

still, some people are saying this isn't revolutionary, and to be honest it isn't really, but its an amalgamation of a lot of factors never done so precisely before

it is definitely something we have never seen before, and in that sense it is revolutionary, but not in the sense that its absolutely new tech, it isn't, they wrote it up at a hotel for god's sake, even they admit it wasn't anything insane,

its just something no one ever put together like this , and thats enough =D

honestly this is what's impressed me the most out of any motion controller so far

the precision and function is so good, i can imagine painting digital art with this like one would paint a big canvas painting - VERY revolutionary.

[Projekt7tuning]

How are you ever going to use Move when you sit here hour by hour posting, making fun of other people, bashing all the systems other than the ps3? How are you going to find the time in your full and busy life?

Everyone please congratulate bjornbear on his posting accomplishments. Just look at his activity, it has to be a record. You must be a proud Bear. Your smarter than the average Bear, that's for sure. Everyone give him a big round of applause.

[oldskoolgamer]

dude i think you have a stalker lol

[The Wood]

we get it man...you dont like the guy. But use some of that energy on some people from.....u know.....the 'other side'

[theIMP]

Now see project is stalking because he calls out BJbear, or whatever
his name is, for trolling 24/7. I mean wow, you can control the menus with a wireless controller in your hands. I mean who would have ever thought you could navigate a menu with a controller. How ground breaking. Revolutionary..... wait I think I do that every day with my wireless 360/DS3 controllers. I hope this gives the fanboys a little glimpse on how pathetic they are, it wont, but I hope it does.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Imagine the next heavy rain with this tech ;)

[jalen247]

I wonder what the haters who said the PS Move was just a WiiMote will be thinking after seeing this video.

Stupid haters...LOL.

[doa766]

a game like that with this could be really revolutionary

[kneon]

I thought I read that they were going to release a HR patch for Move support. Maybe it was just a rumor though.

[jack_burt0n]

trust me its coming, everyone said to them @ e3 after playing it even the walking with one trigger etc its built for the motion controller, its going to get bundled in the fall.

[jalen247]

There are a lot of chapters in Heavy Rain that this would be perfect for.

Spoiler Free Don't worry:

For those that have played the game imagine playing Chapter 28: The Lizard. For example picking up the objects found in the environment and placing them on the table and doing the action with these objects using the techniques shown in this tech demo.

[OhMyGandhi]

So cool that stuff like this is being produced.
Sure nintendo got the jump on sony and microsoft, but man...
Both sony and Microsoft should be proud of themselves,
both Natal and Move are simply ingenious in their design.

[alphakennybody]

I agree with most what you said except that undeserved credit for MS, why? they haven't shown anything credible for somekind of revolutionary demo yet. the only showned so far is a upgraded version ricochet from a ps2 tech demo from years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Devil MAY KILL]

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[ApocalypseShadow]

while sony is "showing sh!t,microsoft is just "talking sh!t."

still nothing from the other side as we keep seeing sony spreading the truth on the fact that they have been working on this stuff for years.including what microsoft is bringing to the table.as they have already worked with 3DV before microsoft bought them.

minority report:

gloves
http://www.unwiredview.com/...
rings for fingers
http://gizmodo.com/5172115/...

sony has got it all covered including the patent to use any object for gaming.

http://www.ps3attitude.com/...

ANY OBJECT?

sony has got that patented too for minority report controls for future motion control gaming.

microsoft needs to step up or just shut up.celebrities won't be enough to hide the truth.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

Marketing Marketing Marketing

[ballsofsteel]

impressed in terms of tech but i just want to see some games. it's good to know the the tech is there now they need to get devs behind it to make some quality games

[alphakennybody]

missed GDC10?if so, watch it.

[ghamdikh3]

kickin @ss

[GrandDragon]

WOW! He wrote that code in one night? If the PS Move is that easy to work with then Sony must have way more confidence in the Move then any of us could even imagine.

This is just insane seriously.

[LiquifiedArt]

Now create real software that mimics the XMB called, 3D XMB. And have it auto-boot into it, if you have the MOVE synced!

This is TRUE next gen.

I'm sold.

***I hope everyone realizes THEY WROTE THIS PROGRAM IN 1 DAY on the plane!***

[i_am_interested]

see thats the problem

some people are too slow to realize that these guys are engineers for an R&D team and not video game makers

[americanGTA]

PS4!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cloud Strife VII]

this is incredible.

[Berserk1]

WOW

[Jamaicangmr]

That sh!t was sick am definatly gonna grab me a move or rather 2 and 2 sub controllers (Sony PLEASE! Find a better name for the sub controller)

[Speed Racer]

this is incredible.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Another reason to not buy the Wii for my Sister.

[XabiTheHumble]

Has anybody ever thought about how Alan Wake would be a perfect fit for the Playstation Move?

[Shendow]

That was the first think that came to my mind when he said hold it like a flash light, I won't be shock if it does come to the PS3 but later on like most titles do. I mean look Bioshock took awhile to show up on the PS3 an because it took so long -_- well sells wasn't as good as they should have been an the port of it need a update.

It could happen but who knows an who cares for now, plus I think the game will blow if I can get in a cop car an drive around with all the lights on (Or maybe some other cars like it) but then if they let you do that, well you could finish the game more easy I bet.

[_vx]

LOL that is exactly what i thought about :D

[Philaroni]

That would be cool. But even more would be Portal... Portal could be a killer App for Move if it was on the PS3. I don't think I need to say anymore.

[LiquifiedArt]

http://i40.tinypic.com/2nve...

I mean. its very very close. I'd expect it to be even closer, as the software evolves. Firmware updates ftw!

All it takes now is the right software and its a win.

[artsaber]

If they keep this up, these things will sell like hotcakes. Every user will probably buy two just for themselves. That demo was insane, surpassed my expectations. Let people keep downtalking Move, that just plays into the wow factor when demos hit.

[sonic speed]

WOW JUST WOW

[Theoneneo81]

I mean with the ps3 we have the future with the 360 they got the 3rd grade pew pew pew

[doa766]

they just giving people an idea of what can be done with it, you just need to use your imagination to see how it will apply to gaming

but of course that seems to much to ask for most of the posters here apparently

[KeiserSosay4788]

Awesome...... Not really like minority report though.... I think they should use gloves.... That would be awesome

[doa766]

rings are better than gloves and Sony already patented motion rings but there's no info about it except a few design sketches

they might leave that for PS4

[Equinoxe_7]

Maybe they also have something up their sleeves, but it seems Sony is confident, I also agree MOVE looks promising.

[doa766]

Nintendo can't do anything else with the Wii and even if Natal ends up working perfectly which seems very unlikely it just won't work for gaming

simple exercise: hold both your arms extended in front of you like holding an invisible steering wheel, lets say that the average length of a videogame race should be around 3 minutes, can you hold them up for 3 minutes without getting tired? and even if you manage to do it, would you like to play another race right after?

[Equinoxe_7]

You also have to MOVE your arms with move, but I hope MOVE will be a better succes than Natal, but I don't know, thats why I wait for E3.

But don't be too harsh on Xbox owners, they have a hard time lately ;)

[doa766]

not necessarily, and especially not for hardcore games, this is something that everyone who played Metroid Prime 3 on the Wii knows, that game works a lot like the Socom 4 demo, you can play it with your hands on your lap or anywhere else

actually I played Metroid Prime 3 from my bed laying on my back with my hands resting on the mattress on each side, on my right hand I had the nunchuk and on the left the Wii remote and I was pointing at the screen like I do with the TV's remote control and it worked just fine, you don't need to hold it in the air

that game is great but its standard def and the wii remote´s lack of precision makes it hard to aim but it gives you a pretty good idea of how this could work if done right

[silkrevolver]

...this just proves how precise the move is.... but at the same time it makes me pissed at how awful most of the games they’ve shown for it look. I’m excited for ping-pong.... and..... yeah, that’s about it. Software needs to catch up!

[roguewarrior]

Looks interesting

[Unknown]

Sony is doing what I HOPE MS does at E3....show the actual MC in motion(pun intended). I do think the title of this thread should be changed as I saw nothing that was anything like Minority report. And people always complain about having to hold your hands with NATAL....but with two controllers weighing what a pound or two...wailing them around, surely this must be more taxing that using ur empty hands...right? I strongly believe that NATAL will be able to do everything that MOVE can do and more given my research on the tech that NATAL uses. The whole lag issue is over rated as the wii has lag and it still doesn't affect gaming too much. I think all in all, its pretty much certain that Sony's tech will be a nice upgrade to wii, I think many wii owners will get a PS3 for the mo tech and the hd graphics, and I think MS will surprise alot of haters and deliever something special. But with MS...who knows. Esp with the state of the 360's graphics tech and Aaron Greenburgs blindness to see that that area needs improvement. Can someone please show him GOW3?

[_vx]

poor Xbots now imagine you play Alan wait with this ,,,sadly never gona happen LOL!

[XDF]

Saaking, Obama, Morganfail, Pirate Tm and Action Bastard in the crowd.

[Berserk1]

LOL

[The Wood]

lol

[awesomeperson]

Wow, looking at the PS move it can be used for a lot more then gaming.

Just imagine how awesome it would be to present things for work or school using that kind of technology...

I think that my mind of motion control is starting to change, for once motion control seems like more then just a gimic.

Oh and MS, wheree are all of your tech demo's for natal? As in ones that don't spasm out...

[Socomer 1979]

We Need A FPS Like That Starring Jaidon from Heavy Rain.
Give me 3D glasses & A Glove with Move Technolgy!!!!!!

It's Over!!!
Kiss The Rings!

[ipe]

interested soo much in motion thing and move but after this...

day 1 son

[Berserk1]

SOLD!!!!!

[Philaroni]

Ya that was cool. I love how they made the RTS comments being RTS has yet to really make it on the PS3 or Xbox. Move might be able to fix that. Also move would be good for web browsing and other things in the Playstations UI. The Jack Trenton thing was funny. Every box of Move should come with a Pic of him XD

[slave2Dcontroller]

I've been giving MOVE one helluva bashing along with Natal. This is friggin sweet and real futuristic sh!t right here tho. Impressive.

[S_Leonhart]

impressive

[ghamdikh3]

impressive

[hakis86]

I officially have No interest what so ever in NATAL (or was it Nafail?) anymore.
This should REALLY open up developers imagination on what can be done in games.

If a dev makes a must-have game with Move it will sell like crazy! Obviously the sky is the limit.

[tudors]

if we wanted controls with natal they are possible, how about a minority report glove!!! for natal only with buttons on the tips of the fingers or presure senstive pads, somthing that in theory is possible with natal but not with Move, we can have controllers only integarted with natal then there are all kinds of possibilities.

Edit: so whom ever disagrees does not think a glove would be a great idea with Natal? doesn't matter because it will happen.

[artgamer]

umm, you're full of fail because the whole idea behind Natal is controllerless gaming/interaction.

You think they're gonna make people buy another peripheral to play Minority Report ? As I said, full of fail.

Just accept that Natal won't be all its cracked up to be and Move will.

[Blackcanary]

Have already been Gloves design for the PS EYE someone posted up the link SO what you just said is wrong. When it comes to gloves on the PSEYE all it would need is small balls on it that glow or the tech inside the ball implemented into the gloves some how.

[whateva]

Slap! I'm Rick James B#%+*!

[tudors]

Award for the most narrow minded comment goes to you "Show me a tech demo of Natal doing the same thing as Move just did. You wont find one and never will"

Yes you will only better, the 3D has already been demoed on the DSI only you move around by tilting the DSI, so obviously this is not Sony patented tec and therefore is possible with Natal.

Here is a question just so we know who's who.

Are you a Sony fan who like Natal?
Are you a 360 fan who likes move?

My answer is Yes to both, if we are going to argue tec lets try and see the positives from both sides, what I just watched with move was really impressive, but don't kid yourselves into thinking Natal cannot do this because you make yourself look foolish.

[Biggest]

Did you just compare a large screen TV using a camera and motion control to a DSi? Backwards on all levels.

[Hidden Star]

I didn't understand the video.

[tudors]

"Just accept that Natal won't be all its cracked up to be and Move will. "

LOL you trying to mind condition me now?

[tudors]

"umm, you're full of fail because the whole idea behind Natal is controllerless gaming/interaction."

The point is we have a choice, the glove would just act as an effect or allow for buttons within the hand, it's not hard to understand you just make it seem that way.

[Equinoxe_7]

Show us some videos...

[Meryl]

this video is awesome, so much for the lag issues, i noticed hardly any

[drtanuyn]

THE TECH IS ON RAW POWER.. AND THAT IF IMPLEMENTED INTO A GAME, IT MIGHT "FILTER" SO THERE MIGHT BE "LAGGYER"

2:45

[mushroomwig]

@Drt

I don't think you have the slightest idea of what you're even talking about.

[Meryl]

haha drtanuyn there is no such word as LAGGYER. I am going to find it hard to take you seriously now

[GodGinrai]

i just watche the kevin butler ps move vid again..the one withe red balls and the "pew pew pew"..that ish is too funny.lol.the folks at sony have a good sense of humour.....pew pew pew....im gonna catch a big red ball!

btw ill get both just cuz i like new toys.

[Griffmo]

Too much Natal bashing here. I am a big sony fan and this does look promising, but seriously...We have not seen ANYTHING on Natal in quite a while. As skeptical as some of you are, you're all setting yourself up to eat your words. Both should be a step ahead in terms of gaming tech and any judgment on natal should be reserved...for now.

[Equinoxe_7]

nuff said

[drtanuyn]

I HOPE THE PAINT AND THE MINORITY REPORT TECH ARE AVAILBLE ON DAY ONE..

I WANT IT TO WORK WITH THE WEB BROWSER..
THAT WOULD BE SOO KOOL. A 3D SPACE FOR WEB BROWSING!!!

MOVE IS MOVING ME MORE AND MORE!!
ps MOVE FTW!!!

[-Gespenst-]

I own a ps3 but I ain't no fanboy; I originally thought the natal was more advanced.
But this... Wow. I had no idea the move was capable of stuff like this.

[ATLGAMER]

Xbox fan has to admit this could actually be used in a game and would be a worthwhile feature..

[ReBurn]

I've never had doubts about the technology. My doubts are whether the developers are going to be able to do cool stuff with it. I'm sure Sony and some of their first-party studios will do some awesome stuff, but I have my doubts about third parties.

[tiamat5]

As per ususal, Sony knows what they are doing. I like the implications of this. Sony can use this to their advantage in so many ways. Go Sony, make us proud. Show everyone you are still king even without your crown.

[omimasum]

one day the power glove will make a glorious return as the next iteration of PS Move!

[ReBurn]

Heh...Power Glove. That was high-tech for the time, wasn't it?

[abi980]

remember, with natal you can do stuff like this with your hands.

[_vx]

yah it can even read my c0ck :O

[poeo]

somehow i doubt Natal can track your fingers etc that accurately... it's not going to be this precise, no f*cking way.

[krauler]

if Natal can do this, why haven't they shown anything like it?
Again, buttons really do help alot!

[Claudinho69]

i think the koo thing about this is that on ps4 they will prob upgraded to simply a glove

[Raimond]

This is the most amazing thing I've seen of the move! Why dind't they show this as CES!?

[tudors]

At least some of you think a glove would be a great idea, I mentioned this with Natal but as Natal is so bad apparently it would not work, obviously I am being sarcatsic.

[Biggest]

I'm giving you a bubble vote in hopes that you can respond saying you understand. The Natal has been promoted as controllerLESS gaming. It has been explained as controllerLESS gaming. The developers of Natal have said "We are making the Natal WITHOUT controllers." The Natal doesn't have a glove because it is controllerLESS gaming. So far, based on what has been promoted, explained, and shown, the Natal is a Zune type money grab. It is a second rate entry into the popular category. It touts a few extra features without ever perfecting them. It also has no controllers. Not even a glove. It isn't that you are wrong in that it won't work. It probably would work. But since you aren't the one making Natal, your input means jack crap right now. There. Are. No. Controllers!

[Claudinho69]

not but i mean the perfect way would be gloves with buttons lol

[crazyclown]

sony rocks -> and they wrote that in 1 night, just imagine 1 years work on it...geez this ownz

[MaximusPrime]

great video. this shows something that Wiimote can't do.

PS Move probably comes in handy when playing uncharted (exploring) or FPS (looking around).

Natal is something for people who never tried PS eye before. MS is 2 years late. In 2 years time, MS will bring out PS move/Wiimote controller, with no improvement what so ever.

[ATi_Elite]

PS3 Move looks incredible. Imagine how some FPS are going to evolve. this would be awesome for PC RTS games.

very fast very responsive. Looks like Natal may have to "MOVE" over. The boxing games are gonna be madd nice.

[foxxy]

That looks so cool alot better then i expected its on my buy list now.

[ReBurn]

That's a pretty cool tech demo.

[EvilBlackCat]

if i remember correctly in minority report tom was using gloves and doing hands/fingers signals to interact with the interface...

yeah look >>> http://www.youtube.com/watc...

but of course some(almost everybody here) is going to say doesn't matter

[OSIRUSSS]

HAHA!!! Did you guys Forget about this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I didn't. I can move things around the screen With the PSEYE. I might play this game tonight.

[N4g_null]

WOW REALLY you guys have not seen this kind of tech before? thats weird. well anyway glad yu like the demo now start saving up.

[Skyreno]

Day one buy for sure!!!!!

[drtanuyn]

dude, seriously i dont think YOU have a clue what YOUR talking about..
read the f'ing reply correctly, watch and listen to what anton said...douchebag before you decide to comment... ya tool

[frostypants]

Not necessarily. They could limit it to say 20-30 degrees in either direction...just keep it within the comfort zone where you can keep your eyes on the screen. Actually they could make the range and sensitivity adjustable to the player's specs. It would work fine.

[Shendow]

Well its going nice to see how Microsoft acts to all this.

[SUPREME RULER]

MS and SONY are the Nintendo and Sega of the new generation

also, back then = no net (not this developed anyway) so people were less exposed to fanboyism, but it was still just as present and strong, even getting into arguments with friends (stupid kid stuff xD)

so complaining about this gen is futile - its always like this with any two competitors

people naturally side with something

there are people who absolutely impartial towards something, but they also have strong preferences in others

football and sports in general, video games, technology companies, clothes companies etc...

people have preferences, some are more vocal, and sometimes more illogical about them =)

+ the navigation menu was standard menu being navigated through with natal, no actual menu manipulation at this level

[Cajun Chicken]

Wow. That's freaking awesome.

[Jessewb]

Seriously, I'm a hardcore gamer and an electronic engineering student, and I play everything from God of War to Half-life, Halo, Uncharted,
StarCraft, and I like this.
Don't even compare the Wiimote to this, because it can't even do this.
All the damn Nay sayers are a bunch of hardcore wannabees, when you have extra precision in gaming, it's nothing to be complaining about, it's not like you even have to be standing up to game.
I don't see any of these guys doing anything better, yet they criticise such hardware.
All I can say is that these sort of people have no vision and don't develop the future.
I say no to Natal because, seriously, gaming without anything in your hand sucks bad, except if you want to use that for a dashboard or any other menu, but for actual gaming it's a joke.
I'll be getting this for sure.

[Xander756]

I don't remember Tom Cruise holding two huge magic wands in that movie. if anything, Natal would resemble Minority Report much more accurately.

[LiquifiedArt]

He was wearing gloves, with......

(guess what)....

Lights on the finger tips. DING! winner.

http://inspireaction.mindan...

[Foxgod]

Yeah, he was wearing gloves, but he wasnt holding a magic stick.

[Henry Cain]

Lets be honest as of right now I have seen nothing on Natal that can compete with this. Natal uses avatars, Move is using real people. This is some much better than the Wii.

[N4BmpS]

If they showed this at GDC the move would've had a harder impact. Very Impressive.

[John Marston]

I have no words other than this is just amazing O_O

[axerated]

the e3 video last year impressed me, the gdc one a few weeks ago lowered my excitement, and now this has just blown me away! i can't believe how much work has gone into making this more than just a "wiimote". it is now in a league of its own with much more room to grow and probably loads more for us to see in the coming months. this year really is a good one for sony, hope it continues with as much momentum as it has so far!

[mcnablejr]

.Didnt they use HANDS in minority report.?

i cant see myself picking these things up just to wave some windows about, when it can be done 3x faster with a controller.

fun for mabye 1 or 2 goes.

[Foxgod]

Bhwah, pointing with sticks, if you like it, good for you, this isnt for me.
If Natal doesnt fulfill my expectations i wont buy into motion gaming until they bring something serious to the table.

[MORGiON]

@foxgod

a little bitter are you? prehaps you and that other troll in this thread should just F*** off out of PS3 news.

[Justin_bristoe]

..i mean natal...pew pew pew

[Morituri]

I too was not all trhat impressed with the demos that came out at gdc, but this stuff is really piquing my interest. Precision, Body tracking, 3 dimensions...I think this could open up whole new avenues for developers.

[tiamat5]

Since Microsoft isn't saying or showing anything really about what the Natal can do I wouldn't jump to say that the Move is better then Natal but i have to admit this looks pretty awesome and I hope that Sony uses it wisely, unlike Nintendo who invents things and implements them poorly. Even after all these years the Wii-mote still hasn't proven it is that big of a deal.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

Do you know what that glowing sphere in Playstation Move represents?

It represents one of those ten glowing LED in Tom Cruise's finger tips on the film Minority Report!

The Playstatation Move is the future of motion controls right in our finger tips come Quarter 4 of 2010!

Thanks to Sony PS3 Move for this fantastic piece of innovative technology ^_^