Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 - PS3 vs 360 comparison

Lifendz - 102 days 4 hours ago

It seems only reasonable that the PS3 version would look better considering the devs have had more time to polish the game. It's not a slight to the 360 imo.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 102 days 4 hours ago

There is no big deal.. Exactly what my post said. If you played it on the 360 it's the same thing.

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Unicron - 102 days 4 hours ago

C'mon Crab, it's N4G. It's ALWAYS a big deal. I mean, look at the Ghostbusters debacle. HUGE DEAL, no?

If Ayane had one more poly in her nostril it would be a HUGE DEAL here.

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raztad - 102 days 4 hours ago

@Lind

While time is a relevant factor of course, it alone doesnt explain the staggering improvements over the xbox version. Many ports of former xbox "exclusives" ended up looking (in the best case) identical or just slightly better.

There are a lot of effort put in the creation of Sigma2. An immensely better engine, 720p capable, better textures, more detail, much better lightning, show that Team Ninja is having a lot of fun with the PS3 arch.

I had not intention to get this game, but after the demo it is clear Team Ninja deserves my support.

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Gregmonk - 102 days 4 hours ago

pls, the PS3 version is clearly the better option, there is no reason to be in denial.

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SuperStrokey1123 - 102 days 4 hours ago

The may play the same but the game looks 100% better on the ps3. That being said the core experience looks is the same so no big deal if you already have the 360 version.

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Snoogins - 102 days 4 hours ago

While the visuals are noticeably better, I'd say the more impotant differences would probably be the rock-solid 60 frames per second and the flexible and less frustrating camera, two of the biggest gripes about the original. Still not a very big fan of the art-style, though, but an issue that never kept me from enjoying the series.

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Ichiryoka - 102 days 4 hours ago

Seriously all you do is defend anything 360 related...its getting old. The 360 can defend itself.

There is a big difference here, if you played the 360 version, no you

have not played this game. All the upgrades almost make it an entirely

new game itself. Only thing I see the same is the story and heck they

may have added new segments to that as well, as they did with sigma.

What I'm saying is its a different experience.

Story- Added character stories and new story segments.

Graphics- Upgraded, you can see that here.

http://www.gameswire.net/co...

Content- New weapons and characters

Online- coop

And more...

this is almost like a new game...only thing that is the same is what story elements the 360 has that the PS3 version has as well, THAT IS IT!

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edgeofblade - 102 days 4 hours ago

Honestly... I see a difference in colors and lighting angles. I think the PS3 version looks better by virtue of the color saturation, but not for any technical difference. They just applied more polish to the PS3 version than the 360 version.

But what would really get my goat is the way the gimped the gore out of the PS3 version. Come on... that's one of the trademarks of the recent NG games...

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 102 days 4 hours ago

Funny, I played both and the PS3 stomps the 360 version in every way. No suprise here, GECrab comments first in attempt to one-up the inferior 360 version. Everyone and their grandmother knows Sigma 2 provides graphical upgrades and more gameplay. Its a FACT. Spin it all you want.

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SuperStrokey1123 - 102 days 4 hours ago

Yeah I forgot about all the additions like that Ichiryoka. It is actually not the same game as i posted, its got loads of new stuff.

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Ocelot525 - 102 days 4 hours ago

the lightning is much better on the PS3, also many textures are better, so the differences are anything but small.

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Godmars290 - 102 days 4 hours ago

Are you honestly looking at those pictures and saying that there's no major differences between them?!

Shame...

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darthv72 - 102 days 4 hours ago

then why all the fuss? This is a great game in the NG series and if ps3 gamers who wanted it when it was on 360 are now able to get it then so be it. It doesnt make the 360 version any less fun to play. It isnt the same differences like the xbox ng black and ps3 ng sigma 1. The differences between these two arent as noticable as most want to make out. Just be happy it is available on ps3 and move on.

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blindfromthesun - 102 days 4 hours ago

I'm undecided if NGS2 warrants a second (repurchase)purchase for ME. The graphics are better, sure. The story, new characters and team co-op are great. However, after playing through the first level it feels much the same. If you think likewise, cool, however I bet you haven't played the "horrible" 360 version as much as I have. I like the new additions such as the bow mapped to L2 and R2 to shoot, and streamlined everything; I just need to see more.

Edit: As mentioned above, NGS2 compares very much to a pseudo update to NG2 than a whole new game; much like Ninja Gaiden Black was to Ninja Gaiden. This isn't a knock against Sigma 2 by any means.

As with every Ninja Gaiden game before it, I will eventually buy it. The question is when and what price.

Edit 2: DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK- How many times have you played through Ninja Gaiden 2 on 360? If you have played it more than 6 times through, raise your hand. The vast majority of single player will be much unchanged. No need to get upset, no one called you a name.

Edit 3: Totally changed your comment! Caught you red handed ;)

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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 102 days 3 hours ago

Ninja Gaiden SIGMA 2 rocks!

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Strikepackage Bravo - 102 days 3 hours ago

this game is old news, I played this a long time ago, it had better look better now that they have made it twice.

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zlatko - 102 days 3 hours ago

I played the demo for a good chunk of this morning. I think the people on here either A) Didn't play the 360 version or B) Are REALLY trying to make this game sound like it's comparing a NES game to a PS3 game...

It looks slightly better... it really doesn't look like a giant leap. I've beaten it on my 360, and now I played the PS3 demo and honestly the only real noticeable things is improvements to lighting.

The main problem from the 360 version is still here---damn camera is just something you have to fight against as well as the enemies on screen. It rotates slow, and R1 taps just seem to screw with what enemey you had wanted to target.

I did love the team mode a lot though. Hopefully it's really long as that would be a blast to play to get high scores on leader boards for.

All in all it's just typical N4G banter. Saying one version is a million times better than the other. At this point in time of course there is no reason to play the 360 one over the PS3 one as there is more content to be had here, but at the same time unless you really wanted to try out the co-op you won't be missing out on much if you beat the 360 version already.

That's my 2 cents.

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morganfell - 102 days 3 hours ago

It is a HUGE deal and there are plenty of instances of several of these deniers saying such differences do matter. A great deal.

They had just as much time to polish the game for the 360 because the game wasn't in development for the PS3 when the 360 version was being built. It was built FOR the 360 and still looks better on the PS3. You had better learn to deal with the fact that half way competent devs have now wrapped their heads around the PS3.

On top of that many of the 360 issues such as poor camera implementation have been fixed. Add in the TON of additional material and it is only the same game in the barest instance. NG2 and Sigma 2 are the same game the way a tuna and a shark are the same because they both swim in the sea.

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raztad - 102 days 3 hours ago

@morganfell

Agree 100%.

I was about to say something in the lines. It is impossible (under Itakagi reign) Sigma 2 was even in projects. With Itakagi Team Ninja was dedicated to the xbox version, so I can mark his departure as the beginning of Sigma 2 development.

EDIT: @morgan I dont think they are THAT different versions in term of content. At the end of the day both games share the same core story.

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hades07 - 102 days 3 hours ago

Did I dream my version of NG2 but I do not remember it being that dull on the 360.

*Puts game into system and plays for a min*

Nope my 360 version isn't as dull as those pics at all. Still not PS3 quality, but not as bad as gameswire makes the 360 pics out to be.

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mastiffchild - 102 days 3 hours ago

I think it's pretty big deal myself AND I played the 360 game to death as a series fan. The reason it's a big deal to me isn't the extras, isn't the expected better visuals BUT is the fixed camera which made the 360 game far less enjoyable than it should have been-and the kicker is that they REALLY should patch 360 gamers a fix for the damn thing.To me it was close to a game breaking fault and the pros[pect of playing a fuller, better looking game with a fixed camera is brilliant.

The icing on thje cake, though I'm alone on this one I'd imagine, is the toning down of the blood and gore. Along with the poor camera it conspired to make some scenes incomprehensible to the eye taking much of the skill out of the game and rsulting in pure mashing at some moments! IDK about the "stylish" purple mist but I'm glad the OTT spurts and trails of limvs are gone if I'm honest as it just got daft and eventually, in the way. It's not the kind of game where I need a distraction either-and why they let us move the tits about is way over hmy head. What IS that about?

But anyway, big deal, for me, is the fixed camera which is a disgrace that they aren't fixing for fans with only a 360-vey tight in my book. NGS2 itself, however, looks a great play for PS3 gamers and those who, like me, found some parts of the 360 game just a liottle too flawed/annoying.

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morganfell - 102 days 3 hours ago

But you see, that is the point. Saying they share the same story just condemns the idea of equality.

Stories in the NG1 and 2 are very thin...anorexic actually. What makes NG games great are the mechanics and the gameplay, not the Kate Moss storyline. In that respect the 360 version is broken and the PS3 version is the Bionic Gabe Newell.

So saying the story is the same doesn't help since the story in a NG title is just so much fluff.

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cmrbe - 102 days 3 hours ago

with this game right from the start is that they haven't improved much from the first. All the issues from the first game weren't solved. Perhaps the graphics in NGS looked too good that i coundlnt see a difference.

Now they said they fixed the camera but i know they can never fix the story.

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hades07 - 102 days 3 hours ago

I would like to think I'm a decent gamer, especially after completing all the combat challenges on Batman: Arkham Asylum and getting 100%.

With that said, I hope they fixed the cheap and frustrating enemies as well, worse part about the game. Loved it but that had to be changed because no way could I finish this game on Path of the Mentor.

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tucky - 102 days 3 hours ago

As you said, the games are exactly the same ... when seeing the new generation of games that are coming (Uncharted 2, Gran turismo 5,...), this one looks very poor technically. After more than 1 year, I was expecting something with some real graphical improvements.

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Insomnia_84 - 102 days 3 hours ago

Crab's back to his roots.

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Poopface the 2nd - 102 days 3 hours ago

With an extra year to polish.

not only that but the disappearance of the limbs that were scattered everywhere in the 360 version frees up some power to be used in other areas.

hades-- I didnt think I could finish it on Path of the mentor either, but after you get the sythe it becomes easier. Plus I saved my lives of the thousands gods to use as health potions for toward the end. I did it but I didnt even want to try it on master ninja. Im guessing they will make less cheap enemies.

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ape007 - 102 days 2 hours ago

this not "same version,more AA,runs better etc.."

this is an upgrade,I really love ng2,finished it last year and this 1 will be better of course

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raztad - 102 days 2 hours ago

@morgan

Sounds about right.

@Poopface

I dont agree about the "EXTRA" year. I dont think Sigma 2 has been in development in parallel with NG2, that was not possible under Itakagi. After he was fired Team Ninja begun to develop Sigma 2, that is my guess.

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Information Minister - 102 days 2 hours ago

The PS3 version looks better, runs in native 720P and it features more content. Sorry buddy, but gamers who only played this on the 360 are missing a lot. I don't remember co-op in the 360 version.

And I guess you didn't spot any difference between 360 and PS3 in Ghostbusters as well, did you?[\sarcasm] Damage control much?

EDIT: I think these screens ( http://www.gameswire.net/co... are quite clear. Look at Ryu's suit, sword and helmet. Look at his eyes! There's a huge difference in detail. Itagaki must be furious!

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Rob0g0rilla - 102 days 2 hours ago

PS3 version looks sharper and the colors are a lot better as well. I just don't remember the 360 version looking that bad.

Plus, besides the graphical enhancement, the additional content just blows the 360 version out of the water.

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SaberEdge - 102 days 1 hour ago

I can't tell crap from those screenshots. Both versions look about the same there and I don't understand where this huge difference is. I guess I will just have to go play both versions myself.

Anyway, the real advantage of Sigma 2 is all the extra content and improved camera. Those are the real reasons I will buy Sigma 2. If it looks better as well, great. But I don't really see that in these screenshots. (The first rule of screenshot comparisons is that the shots should be identical. If they are showing different views then you can't really do a proper comparison.)

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Blaze929 - 102 days 1 hour ago

So I just played the PS3 demo and immediately im like wtf. I thought this game was supposed to look a hella lot better on PS3 but looks damn near identical to the 360 version minus the blood. I even ran both games at the same time with Picture in picture and couldnt really see any improvements. Camera still sucks ass too

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Prototype - 102 days 1 hour ago

@ teraclusterx
I own all 3 consoles (the 360 is DoA at the moment so technically its down) yet I don't act nerdy like Crab does; not that I take offense to it or anything (because I don't) however not all of us that owns all 3 consoles act like that.

As far as the article goes I'm with Mastiff on this one with the violence; yes 10 years ago (I was 17 then) this would have been a big factor in me buying this - 10 years later at 27 I'm more interested in what they fixed from the 360 version. Yes I did play the 360 version and yes there was some fun moments in the game, however I figured over time it was comming to the PS3 so I patiently waited (also spent time in Killzone 2 and Socom) and now saw it's available for PS3 with added content the 360 version should of had to begin with.

Personally I believe a lot was cut from the 360 limits and its a matter of time before more games get ported to the PS3 with added features and content.

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ElementsUnknown - 102 days 1 hour ago

Because that is the current price difference on Amazon. Wasn't worth it to me, especially since the 360 version feeds my gamerscore habit.

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darthv72 - 102 days 1 hour ago

it seems to easy these days to stack the deck in favor of one or the other. The game is good regardless of the system but all these claims about the color and lighting could come down to simple adjustments to the screen. Comparison screens can be manipulated as most of the 360 shots look drab while the ps3 is to bright and not very realistic.

I have both demos and neither of them look better or worse as they can look the same with minor adjustments to the screen. I tend to run my 360 with slightly higher contrast and the ps3 with just a dab more brightness and they can look the same (color and lighting).

There are a few minor texture differences but really nothing to cry foul about. I have to press my nose against the screen (42" plasma) to really see if there is a difference. Who plays that damn close anyway????

The added features to the gameplay seem logical to be addressed to the 360 version via dlc. The question now is...will it be released?

Like I said above, they look and play the same so everyone should be happy they get to play it on their console of choice. The differences between ps3 and 360 are nothing compared to the differences between sigma and black.

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menoyou - 102 days ago

The graphical difference is huge from the screen shots and the feature difference is huge too. 360 damage control much?

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TheBlackSmoke - 102 days ago

Sorry crab, i know you own both consoles and try to be fair with your opinions but in this case your denial of something so obviously true is the reason why people are getting on your back about it.

NgSigma2 features...

- natively runs at 720p (upscales to 1080)
- Higher rezz textures
- uncompressed audio
- camera fixed
- framerate fixed
- bugs and exploits fixed (such as the spawn enemies then run back to the last save point to make them dissapear glitch)
- full game rebalancing (so its challenging like ng1 instead of cheap like ng2)
- almost forgot six-axis boobies.

Content

- Extra SP missions and new bosses
- 3 New characters each with their own SP missions and new cutscenes
- Online co-op campaign mode featuring 30 missions.
- Abilty to record your co-op missions fully and directly upload
- New weapons and costumes not found in ng2.

Trust me this is not the same game. Yes the SP campaign is primarily the same but theres so much more to this version. Your opinion is like saying super street fighter 2 turbo is the same game as street fighter 2 vanilla.

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jack_burt0n - 102 days ago

The team mission mode is f**king excellent.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 102 days ago

@1.8: I am pointing out that this is not the big difference and no I am not judging by screenshots I'm playing the game on both the PS3 and 360 on my 67" HDTV and they there is not this blaring difference. I do the same thing for the PS3 so please spare me the character analysis. Just recently even with Ghostbusters.

I dunno where you people are coming off with the fixed camera.. The camera is just as flakey in the demo as it is in the 360 version. I still have to swing the camera all the way around during combat and yes I am series fan myself.

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Midgard228 - 102 days ago

u serious bout the camera? it was definatly worse in NG2 on 360, ofcourse the camera isnt perfect,it cant be at the insane pace of combat, only way to fix that is to slow down combat drastically or put Fixed camera's like the old resident evil/onimusha games, actually god of war does this aswell.

u act like the camera is bad because the devs suck, its just wat happens when something is fully 3-d and has high action and speed

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Dareaver1 - 102 days ago

the same people complaining about the violence, are probably gonna be relishing in it when God of War 3 comes out.....

Sad bunch of hypocrites.....

I like the violence, and I think it should have been optional on PS3.....

Oh, and so far, all i've seen is a color saturation difference and less AA on the PS3 version. Haven't seen any texture detail shots to make a judgment and the lighting is different. Can't really say better or worse, because it's better to tell when the game is in motion, since it's such a fast paced game.

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TheBlackSmoke - 102 days ago

@ Dareaver

Im not attacking youbut did you play the PS3 demo at all? Theres still gore including flying body parts, blood splatter and spray in the air. Its just a purple essence that comes out of the enemies bodies when they are dismembered.

Ng1 - black - sigma is still the better game than ng2 and they never featured that amount of gore.

god of war is different because its a cinematic experience. Its a tough game but compared to ng its very casual, the gore is intended to make you feel like your a powerful, brutal warrior whilst in ng your skill is what makes you a badass and the blood just accents your work.

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pixelsword - 101 days 23 hours ago

...that I wanted my post on the front page, so I posted here.

That is all.

:)

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NewZealander - 101 days 22 hours ago

i havnt played the ps3 demo yet, but own the game on 360 and was bored after the first play through, i would rather spend my cash on another ps3 exclusive then play NG2 again.

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raztad - 102 days 4 hours ago

"NG2 - the ALPHA version. awww poor bots."

FIXED.

Even if Sigma2 is more than a year later it's the version to own, the other doesnt even come close.

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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 102 days 4 hours ago

http://www.gameswire.net/co...

the old man is actually lacking detail on his skin and shirt.

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morganfell - 102 days 3 hours ago

Ha ha ha Gabe. Funny as hell. And what happened to the color in the 360 version. Everyone looks like a ghost. Everything is washed out and the jaggies are poking my eyes out. BUTT_UGLY on the 360. Hell Sigma 1 looks better.

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Pizzagaki - 102 days 3 hours ago

I doubt you will enjoy the game more then i did more then a year ago.
It looks dated, even with the improvements.

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TheBlackSmoke - 102 days ago

Sigma 2 is basically what every multiplat would look like if they didnt gimp the PS3 version every time.

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The XBOT - 101 days 23 hours ago

Imagine how it would look when its the full version. Get your sh1t right fatso. You're comment doesnt make sense. Or its inferior because of your lack of knowledege, either way, you have been owned. And all PS3 fans who supported you have been owned too. As I said, When I fukced sony 20-30 years ago, you, the sony fanboys came out of sonys vag1na.

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PostApocalyptic - 101 days 23 hours ago

WOW! I was expecting the PS3 or the 360 to be a little bit better than each other! But not THAT BAD! I mean, damn, the 360 version looks like PS2 graphics!

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2good4u2 - 101 days 17 hours ago

the PS3 still looks like a PS2 game with more color.
i really don't mind playing this game a year earlier.
it's not like the gameplay and story have changed.

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buying1999 - 101 days 9 hours ago

This site is obviously owned by Sony, this site obviously doesn't know how to setup the screens for a 360, this site is so biased against 360 that it should be banned from even being on the internet, the developer is obviously in bed with Sony. ROFL, ROFL, .... There for a minute I sounded just like the crapstation clones on here after an article (and there are many) comes out where the freezestation has lost again to 360 (as it does on just about every occasion).
I'll give this ONE to ifinallygotonestation ROFL.
See. It's ok to not be, first to get great games, first to get dlc, first, first, first. LOL.....the extra MONTHS of development did this game good! Wow you clones sure are patient.

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buying1999 - 101 days 4 hours ago

won't be playing the best version of yet another multiplatform game. http://www.lensoftruth.com/...
Man...this is really just too easy.

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raztad - 102 days 4 hours ago

With this game it is more accurate to say ALPHA testing.

Changes from Beta to final product are not that drastic. Sigma2 is like a new game, in fact I've seen sequels that dont improve that much (*cough MW2 *cough)

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infekt - 101 days 17 hours ago

The PS3 version looks sooooo much more refined.

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 102 days 3 hours ago

epic fail.

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Pizzagaki - 102 days 3 hours ago

In your opinion yes, but who are you?

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cyclindk - 102 days 3 hours ago

Why are you saying "you guys," all your old comments suggest you own a PS3 and 360.. so are you a liar, or just a fanboy, or what?

"275 days 8 hours ago

I agree, but Pizzagaki cannot escape from hardcore, Pizzagaki is a slave to hardcore, Killzone 2 will make Pizzagaki's pepperoni nipples hard."

"274 days 4 hours ago

Pizzagaki owns all 360 and all ps3 models.
Pizzakagaki says the CPU's and GPU's in his 360ies have already been shrunk, to cut back the production cost of the 360.
However, the case has not been shrunk, for that takes more effort then shrinking the CPU and GPU alone.

Compare it to shrinking Pizzagaki's meatballs, the meatballs become smaller, but the pizza doesnt!"

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Pizzagaki - 102 days 3 hours ago

Back then i was acting like i had a ps3, just to check if its easier to be a ps3 fan on this site.

And it is, i had like 9 bubbles back then, my posts never got deleted, and i never got banned.
Even tho i bad mouthed 360 fans and games.

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 102 days 2 hours ago

Im the Pope, the one who told God to make you look like a Smallpox victim. LMAO

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Gun_Senshi - 102 days 2 hours ago

oh hai kid that think NG is about gore.

Guess what, NG didn't even had any gore at start, before you was born.

NG always had crappy story, NG is about difficulty and combat

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Obama - 102 days 1 hour ago

Another bot who used to pretend that he has a ps3. Very sad.

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TheBlackSmoke - 102 days ago

Pizza you have just owned yourself so hard. Pretending to own a console means you forfeit the right to call anyone on n4g out. Your basically admitting your a fanboy because you have never owned the console you try to bash all the time.

Oh and btw since when was splinter cell and castlevania former playstation AAA exclusives? Last time i checked the 360 has lost way more exclusives to the black beast cos you know... sony actually make their own games.

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ultimolu - 101 days 23 hours ago

God, shut the f*ck up.

Seriously.

You 360 fanbrats didn't cry when the Ghostbuster comparisons were out but now you're crying over this comparison.

NGS2 LOOKS BETTER. NOW STOP THE F*CKING CRYING...no, wait, cry some moar. I'll give you a whole bunch of tissues for your whiny ass.

Thanks for beta testing. Now I can experience the game myself on the PSTriple.

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sunil - 101 days 22 hours ago

you lied before... whats to say you are telling the truth now?

Lets see... Let me tell you what I think... you dont own anything... you are here to while away your time... cause you are a 10 year old whos parents made the right decision not buying you a console... but they also went wrong by giving you internet access

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striped94 - 102 days ago

He's just upset because the majority of people aren't scared to admit the PS3 is better :)
While the rare loner sides with the 360.

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 102 days 2 hours ago

360 owners are trolling hard to derail, arent they?

ah! showing a picture of Tekken 6, a picutre that was possibly taken months before the actual release date. its funny cause these games that are currently in Development are not even optimized yet. but here you are showing a picture.

when you show these pictures, it means you are butt-hurt and in denial about what happened with NG2.

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7ero H3LL - 102 days 2 hours ago

nope.

the shots are new.

and Quaz51 confirmed the resolution......the same guy who confirmed ninja gaiden2.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 102 days 2 hours ago

but the game is not out yet.

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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 101 days 22 hours ago

neither is star ocean4 on ps3.........and i bet you're already counting your chickens before they fvcking hatch. (lol,hypocrite to the literal meaning, and can find your bias star ocean4 comments at the drop of a hat)

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N4G king - 101 days 20 hours ago

butt hurt much ???

NGS well be setter on the PS3
go cry some where else

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ssipmraw - 101 days 14 hours ago

you must be the most butthurt person here
ps3 on top
360 bottom

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