German hardware charts for October, 2007 . ps3 rises to the top. Wii registers major drop

Rooftrellen - 755 days 3 hours ago

Wii - 389,000
360 - 328,000
PS3 - 172,000

That's Sony land?

The Wii has sold over twice as much, and the 360 is still two years away from the PS3 at this rate.

I mean, I don't really care about Germany, but if Germany has turned from the land of chocolate to Sony, it has a lot of converting to do.

Edit: @1.3

But the Simpsons said Germany is where everything is made of chocolate...even the animals!

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Baba1906 - 755 days 1 hour ago

switzerland is a land of chocolate =P germany is more the land of cars or beer. =D

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shmee - 755 days ago

in just 8 months ps3 has crossed 60% of x36's base in a range of 23 months....so u even know that its over for x360 worldwide except NA.

by this XMAS ps3 would overtake the x360 in terms of LTD in EU. ps3 would do the same to wii next year by march, 2008

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bishop-br - 754 days 16 hours ago

@Shmee

I agree that eventually PS3 will get over total sales of 360 on Europe, but not this xmas... Nor will it get over Wii by March... I mean, you know Wii are in shortage everywhere but Japan, right?

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Rooftrellen - 754 days 10 hours ago

Even if you think the PS3 will pass the 360 (and I would agree, it will), you're thinking far too short term.

Another $200 is going to have to drop from the price to really make it move consoles (even the Wii has not hit the mass market price yet). It also needs at least one or two of its big name games next year.

I think before holiday season '09, the PS3 will be ahead of the 360 in worldwide sales, though. This holiday will likely be close, and next holiday the PS3 will beat the 360 to get very close, I believe.

I wish the PS3 would pass the 360 this Christmas, but that's unrealistic.

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dhammalama - 755 days 3 hours ago

Drop some more nuclear bombs why don't ya. But make sure to arrange something first, you know, to get public support.

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unlimited - 755 days 3 hours ago

war is stupid!! no one wins just more death to innocent people life..i wouldnt buy fautly console either from microsoft..the 360 isnt overtaking europe either the ps3 is doing better..

what a suprise the 360 is doing better in NA..lol..

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Foliage - 755 days 3 hours ago

You might have a point there. The world does hate the US, and the xbox 360 sales suck everywhere outside the US.

Maybe the US is just so full of themselves.

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fenderputty - 755 days 3 hours ago

What point are you trying to make? Even after the war, US dumped extremely large amounts into the German economy to help bring it back up. Japanese people love American Pop-Culture too and eat up the iPod. Are you honestly trying to draw some sort of WWII/electronics conspiracy theory up here. You sound absolutely insane.

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PimpHandHappy - 755 days 2 hours ago

WE did not kick Germanys aZZ in WW2 fool. We didnt join the fight till 4 years in. Germany lost because they went up north 2 Russia in the middle of the winter. We did how ever give Japan a good beatin. If we had lost that war we wouldnt be the counrty we are. Are leaders would have gone to jail for war crimes. Google fire bombing of Japan then take a look at where the Japanesse is today

America would be nothing if we had 90% of are citys leveled to the ground! AND THATS A FACT

Look at New Orleans for all the proof u need

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TheExodus - 755 days 5 hours ago

Looks like the submitter is trying to prove that VGChartz is just an estimate with figures from GfK that are also just an estimate. I'm puzzled myself because when push comes to shove neither truly matter as developers will allocate resources based on hard numbers, not estimates.

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dhammalama - 755 days 3 hours ago

well said

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actas123 - 755 days 3 hours ago

"The PS3 is just more value for my dollar"
couldn't agree more. Its nice to read that some people are making sense.

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The Wood - 755 days 2 hours ago

bubbles +. Its almost like patriotism gone too far in that most non us products will be attacked and media manipulated to sway the masses thus creating more attackers/haters (fanbois) and a false reality (The USA is the best at everything or the PS3 is crap). All countries/cultures do the same thing to be honest

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Meus Renaissance - 755 days 3 hours ago

The GfK Group is the No. 5 market research organization worldwide. Its activities cover five business divisions Custom Research, Retail and Technology, Consumer Tracking, Media and HealthCare. It has a European chain, one in Germany so if you wanted to get a figure from retails you'd probably go to them.

For the UK, ChartTrack is the leading research organisation that provides its data to the BBC and other technology related firms that cover the games industry.

So Europe does keep track of these things and they do release data; but normally software data is the only thing that is provided by ChartTrack to the public (you have to pay to get the hardware figures) but GfK seem to hardware for the public, in Germany anyway.

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kspraydad - 755 days 3 hours ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

GfK is Germany’s oldest market research company, established 72 years ago at the University of Erlangen-Nuremberg. In 1936, GfK AG conducted the country’s first brand study, on the cross logo of pharmaceutical company Bayer, and a year later it published the first German purchasing power figures, which are now also produced for the rest of Europe and overseas. In the mid-1950s, GfK joined the European frontrunners when it adopted consumer panel research after the research methodology first developed in the United States. It also began expanding its international network at an early stage, and in 1960 GfK AG co-founded the Europanel, which, together with British partner Taylor Nelson Sofres (TNS), conducts continuous studies of consumer purchasing patterns in 26 European countries. The GfK consumer climate study, launched in Germany during 1983, now covers Britain, Denmark, Austria, Sweden, and a series of central and eastern European countries. In 1985, GfK began producing German television ratings, first for state-owned broadcasters and later for the Television Research Partnership (AGF). During September 2005 GfK AG was a sponsor for the “Du bist Deutschland” (You are Germany) advertising campaign, the country's largest multimedia initiative to date, aimed at enhancing Germany’s image. Today, GfK AG is widely acknowledged as Germany’s undisputed market leader, with a market share of well over 25 percent. Germany continues to account for the largest share of GfK’s annual sales.

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ElementX - 755 days 3 hours ago

My apologies. I saw the VGChartz under read full story and well, I made an incorrect assumption. I know VGChartz numbers are BS but I didn't see the google.com link :( i'm sorry.

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allforcalisto - 755 days 3 hours ago

just a heads up. "the article" that you're talking about wasn't written in english. It. says when you follow the link "translated version of". Its obviously a german site that was translated. "Walked over the counter" is a rough translation of a german idiom. You get the idea.
someone did translate on google then posted the translated link.

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PirateThom - 755 days 2 hours ago

Because Europe isn't a country?

Europe doesn't release sales figures as a whole and sales reports are sporadic at best from most of Europe. It's a good idea to keep a check on these reports because it gives a nice overall view.

Anything on VGCharts is estimates for Europe, while this is hard data.

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Rooftrellen - 754 days 9 hours ago

"Anything on VGCharts is estimates for Europe, while this is hard data."

This is an estimate too. They don't sit there and count every single game console sold at every store in Germany. They take some data and estimate the number sold in the country from that.

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fury - 755 days 1 hour ago

I am German by the way and glad to see the PS3 rising to the top. I will buy one next year. I'm currently short of money.

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DEADEND - 755 days 1 hour ago

Bubbles for you for speaking the truth, I used to own a 360 and I have to say I got really tired of the racist crap that was going on online. This is why everyone hates America and that they look down on us, hell we were the last major country to get rid of slavery. I totally agree with what you just said and I wish there were more people like you, game one.

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-_-_-_-_-_-_- - 754 days 11 hours ago

Dollard? I thought it was a dollar.

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Tsalagi - 755 days 1 hour ago

This message brought to you by an "ignorant" American and the New York public school system.

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razer - 754 days 23 hours ago

You one bubble loser! Why don't you go burn a flag or something? Are you trying to say that Americans are the source of ignorant fanboy comments?? Give me a freakin break.. So I guess The Mart was right all along since he is NOT American. It's funny because people accuse Americans of being arrogant, but judging a lot of the comments here American does not have a monopoly on it.

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