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Valve has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 version of Orange Box will be released a bit later than PC and 360 builds - but said the delay is nothing to do with the console itself.
The reason for the PS3 build's late arrival, marketing director Doug Lombardi told Eurogamer, is simply that the EA UK team handling its development are on the other side of the ocean and are necessarily a bit behind the core Valve team's development.
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Bebop
- 838 days 3 hours ago
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1 - In other words the EA version is going to suck in contrast.. .. damn
This is a title i would have been really looking forward to was it not for the fact that EA have been working on it. I just hope that Criterion of EA UK were given the task of doing it otherwise i have no hope for this title - will go with PC version.
Don't blame the PS3 folks when we see FPS issues in contrast to 360.
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- 838 days 2 hours ago
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1.1 - The PC version will own anyways.
Half Life 2 is one of those games that is clearly better on the PC. Controls and graphics being one, mods and retail packages like Day of Defeat and Left for For Dead being the other. Well there is of course that little game called Counter Strike Source if you're into that kinda thing.
Basically if you're buying Orange Box for the console you'll be paying more for the lesser version of the Half Life experience which typical of most PC to console port.
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2 - People are going to blame PS3 because its PS3's fault.
The devs delaying PS3 versions of multi platform games work for months to a year only to fail to get the games on par with 360 90% of the time; why would EA cater to such nonsense?.
Thats whats going on you folks try and make it simple and EA's prob when its not. The problem is devs making games with PS3 in mind its not on par with PC and 360 in the ways devs need" to make games if they are to be next-gen.
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- 838 days 1 hour ago
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2.1 - Valve said it wasn't because of the PS3
So why are you spouting this nonsense? Oh wait, I took one look at your post and my question answered itself.
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Bebop
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2.2 - Don't be an ignorant fanboy
The PS3 has a superior architecture over the xbox360 & the PC without a doubt. But the problems arise due to programmers not being familiar with its programming architecture & in some cases to lazy to learn new - e.g Valve. They have spent years programming on the PC with familiar & almost standard API's like direct x also making it easier to write code for XBOX360. There is nothing revolutionary about the xbox360 or the PC. Although relatively expensive compared to xbox360 the PS3 it is 10x better built machine & offers lot more innovation straight out of the box. In my opinion PC's compared to the PS3 on performance value are no match. Sure you can kick ass on the PS3 with a top end PC but you will be spending more on just the GFX card alone (Don't forhet the ever increasing need to update cpu, memory.. etc). Even than games are hardly ever written to squeeze anything out of the PC architecture as programmers always program for the lowest common denominator - most owned PC's by consumers - low to mid range. And its not till 2 years or so down your cards obsolete age that games come out which take full advantage of your card. I have been in PC gaming for a while & have enough of it as i realise its a MUGS game. For me PC gaming is pretty much over as i don't intend to upgrade again. More & more PC type games are coming to the consoles e.g Fear, HL2..bioshock & we even have keyboard & mouse support with PS3 - very clever.
To summarise, i believe the PS3 is extremely well built machine that offers innovation & good value for the performance & features. Its problem is its unique architecture is a hurdle for some programmers but this will undoubtedly diminish for the skilled ones. I am glad its not another PC cloned console which shares both hardware & software components.
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- 837 days 7 hours ago
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this guy is funny, he should see some of our patients in the psych wards. You hearing things again? What did Valve agents whisper into your ears now? or is it the loud 360 (lol, dont hate me, i am just pointing out all the true statements, go ahead and make fun of the PS3, as long as it is TRUE)
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I hope they have some good development tools. Maybe Sony should hold development classes for the system. I really enjoy a lot of exclusive games for the system but not so much ports..
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3.1 - What lot of exclusives
would that be?
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Ok, edit. I enjoy the exclusives the PS3 currently has. Resistance Fall Of Man, MotorStorm, Warhawk, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma are great. They were built ground up for the PS3 and hopefully these companies can shed some light on other developers...
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GoLeafsGo
- 838 days 2 hours ago
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4 - Wow..
Just more proof that EA's developers suck ass.
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WOW more proof that Ps3 is piece of mix n matched components thrown together as more of movie player than a games console. No company would deliberately keep on churning turds and lose potential customers. What happend to Lair(this cant be done on 360 - Lair dev) game? That is exclusive title.
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DeadIIIRed
- 837 days 16 hours ago
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4.2 - sak500
Just because Lair blows doesn't mean it can be done on the 360.
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Fighter
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5 - Identical
In that article Valve claims that all three versions will be identical in function and performance so I wouldn't worry about the PS3 version looking like Krap.
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Time Lord
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6 - Lot of EA BS if you ask me
hate EA
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Cosmo
- 837 days 3 hours ago
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I still have vivid nightmares about the Battlefield 2 patch. Massive patches which fixed one problem, then 5 more would appear.
To me EA games are very unoriginal with there games, just the same franchisee every year rehashed. As much as I loved the original HL-2, this game just doesn't excite me anymore.
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".....the good news is that Valve reckons the three versions will be identical in function and, critically, performance."
Does this mean the PC version will be gimped?
Will the PS3 version be as good as the X360 version without even using any of it's 6 free SPE's (synergistic processing elements)? (Valve claimed they weren't using the SPE's)
The plot thickens, to be continued......
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Valve Dev: "With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell."
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"With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3."
Um, So just leave it up to some other developer to figure out those limits? This is why a lot of PS3 fans call devs lazy. They just blurt out nonsense like this instead of innovative news that they are exploring the limits of the hardware.
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i dont fancy a rehashed year old game with a few other games thrown as extras anyway.
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Snukadaman
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9 - lol huh...
So they are behind because they are in england...what a horrible excuse.
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I agree Snukadaman, it would be a much better excuse if it was the other way around.
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10 - Makes sense?
If its in england then surely its just 6 hours + daylight savings different?
No. hmmmm.
And actually, england is ahead so it should be ready 7 hours sooner.
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MK_Red
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"EA UK team handling its development" Thats enough reason for delay.
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toughNAME
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just be thankful the PS3 version didnt drag the other versions down with it
*cough*GTA.*cough!@!!*
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DeadIIIRed
- 837 days 16 hours ago
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11.2 - lol toughNAME
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the PS3 the lead platform for GTA and is being ported to 360?
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jackdoe
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Three trains of thought with the GTA IV delay. Problem with PS3 version. Problem with storage capacity of 360 version. And the idea that it was meant to be delayed all along, its announcement for this year swaying the stockholders. It could be any of the three and no one knows. I'm banking on number three. The PS3 reason was pushed for by Pachter and we know how stupid that guy is.
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XGamer
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11.4 - No DeadIIIRed, the ps3 is not the lead platform, some ps3 fans like to think so though.
2 independent builds here. So, why is it delayed or delaying the process, and yes it is the Ps3 build, well once again, "Insert generic answer for ps3 delay".
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xplosneer
- 837 days 7 hours ago
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11.5 - What?
R* already said they had problems with storage. The PS3 drag was all speculation. So both could be delaying it, but don't go spouting like the PS3 version has all the problems.
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Maybe they cant find enough orange boxes for the ps3 version.
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I'll be getting this for the PC anyway so it doesn't really bother me that much.
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I'm getting it for the PC rather than my 360 as it will suck on the consoles. Frankly, Valve are a small to medium sized company which can only work on so many games. The teams who made CSS, DoDS etc are also working on the Orange Box as well as some updates for CSS and DoDS. Also EA is the publisher for Valve now.
If I was you guys, I would buy it on the PC, ost PC's can run the source engine now anyways even though it gets updated every now and then. I reckon that the console versions will be wank anyways.
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just enjoy the game fellas. It could end up being one of the best FPS ever.
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Dannagar
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16 - Sony Makes good Hardware, Microsoft makes good software.
It's been well documented that the Playstation 3 has more peak Performance over the Xbox 360. However, Microsoft makes good software. That's what they do. So naturally, any developer is going to favor Xbox 360 for game development. With good software, you can pull more out of less.
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Okay dude the PS3 has Slightly more peek performance, but nothing that will make you go WOW IT IS BEYOND THE 360 capabilities as many a SONYboys claim it is!!! Im telling you dude SONY got them good!
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sleekblackroadster
- 837 days 19 hours ago
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17 - no more ishtaciousness
why why why do they do these things.
why is there not a new half life built from scratch by THE team itself that does the good work and the same team doing both versions.
they hand it off to some other ea entity? its just ports but now i have a feeling they will screw this all up. when it was almost screw up proof since they aren't making a new game.
shucks.
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meh... half-life is better on pc, specially team fortress 2, analog stick just not good enough for the fast game play.
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This just sucks... period... another company saying their is a delay for the PS3 version.
Dam...
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toughNAME
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21 - PS3 games shouldnt have release dates
it seems like everyday a release date is being pushed back?
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22 - Next Gen games shouldnt have release dates
until it goes gold and is ready to ship.
Im looking 4ward to Half Life.
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hmm doesn't matter to me. Half-Life games seem best on pc. SO its a definite buy on pc.
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24 - HA...HA...HA
Look at you know....
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DeadIIIRed
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25 - Not Suprising
When the PS3 first launch someone from Valve was basically saying that Sony messed up and needed to completely redo the PS3. I'm not going to buy their second-hand half-a**ed bull****.
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26 - haha
when this post reached g4 the 360 fanboys went crazy, and i had the pleasure of telling them about this and shuting them up, of course, since half of them are retards, they kept on going with the subject.
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27 - Guess that`s fair
As long as the PS3 version don`t get delayed and somehow manages to play worse too, although i have a bad feeling that could happen with EA handling the port
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EA really likes to screw over the PS3 consumer. PS3 owners should say hell no to EA and skip the Orange Box. Buy UT3 instead.
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29 - OK this is pretty classic....
Valve is the one that decided to "outsource" the PS3 version thus creating a small delay in the launch of the PS3 version.
Yet everyone on here is all about bashing EA since they are handling the PS3 version....why isnt Valve being held responsible by everyone on here? LOL...this is just totally funny. You guys are making this into an EA issue...its a Valve issue..its their game.
God dang...people just love to hate EA. I personally now hope EA delivers a kickass version of this game just to stop the EA hate machine.
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It's easier to hate EA over Valve. But I agree, Valve does share some of the blame. I just don't like Gabe Newell.
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30 - WOW its dalayed oooooooooooo
dont care, have lots of AAA games coming out so wow, O.o
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31 - Insert generic comment/answer on PS3 delayed again.
Yes, it is the consoles fault, it's difficulty in generating anything from it's cell/core issues.
It's the same thing from "EVERY" dev., this is why the ps3 is a running joke.
The developers feel sorry for the sony/ps3 and it's multiple flaws and always give this generic answer.
It really is the "Delaystation 3".
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