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Lair have more responsive SIXAXIS after FW 1.92?
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1.92 will make the controls for lair more responsive since 1.92 makes any controls from the controller more secure and thus the controller is sending all button presses and tilt senses from the sixaxis tilt sensor faster to the ps3 system. so if you pay close attention ....
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Lightning Mr Bubbles
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Stella
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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"That would fix a lot for some people."
Don't be absurd. Pretending to complain about Lair's controls is nothing more than an excuse for fanboys to trash the game.
Lair doesn't even make sense without the sixaxis controls.
Lair's controls were spot on pre 1.92.
Lair's controls are spot on post 1.92.
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snoop_dizzle
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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1.2 - don't be absurd?
ok, considering that even ps3 fans are complaining about the controls there might be some merit. Granted i think the game is good but nothing AAA more like AA. I do definelty think that this game was underrated but the controls have been an issue to many. Perhaps you are just very coordinated?
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- 839 days 22 hours ago
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1.3 - @Stella
For quite a bit of people, its not the accuracy of the motion control that we dont like, its the fact that we are FORCED into motion control. When i play games, I do not want to move my hands all about or have to pitch this way or that. I want to sit back on my couch and have a good time.
'Lair doesn't even make sense without the sixaxis controls. '
Nothing different than any other flying game. They dont all force us to use motion controls.
I for one simply refuse to buy this game unless they put out a patch for using standard controls.
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- 839 days 22 hours ago
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i'm not a big fan of the motion controls at all, but after actually trying the game out and not being all upset about there not being an option to play with the sticks, i'm starting to really like it now and its alot of fun.
after reading all the reviews i figured they played through it quickly and were frustrated after a while like i was, THE FIRST DAY. today its whole lot better and now i'm enjoying it more. it just takes a lil time and effort. plus, if we really wanna take gaming to the next generation, we have to be willing to try new control scemes and not rely on the old way of playing (at least for one game, sony better not pull this sh!t again). and being able to play on psp is great just to show off to friends. i had everyone in the barborshop buggin when they saw it.
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TheExecutive
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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lol and the d-pad was standard before the sticks... Motion is here to stay folks, get used to it or get worse at video games. In flying games it frees the hands up to do other things. Trying new video games is fun, some people should quite being so closed minded
EDIT: Snoop....
You are absolutely correct. Sensitivity needs to be able to be changed, it is an absolute must. Especially since they are just starting to impliment it.
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snoop_dizzle
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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1.6 - i think motion control can be good
but you gotta be able to tweak the sensitivity of the controls. I think that would've made it easier to play.
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- 839 days 23 hours ago
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Nice to hear! I'm going to pick up this game as soon as I get a chance.
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Violater
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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3 - Does not compute
As I do not equate "more secure" to "more responsive" ie sensitivity settings.
More secure seems to indicate a fix for the disconnection issues people seemed to be having.
EDIT: REPORTS COMING IN 1.92 FTW
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TheExecutive
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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You are absolutely correct, bubbles for being intelligent. There is no reason for me to believe that security has anything to do with responsiveness... this seems to be too much of a jump in logic.
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segasage
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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4 - BS
Never believe PSN or PS3 forums...it's a Pole for godsakes now you got firmwares making gamers act delusional,
Call this firmware a Placebo.
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cuco33
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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5 - i doubt this will help
from what i've been reading, the issues aren't with the easy first few stages but the more complex later stages and if it's as broken as the reviewers and honest gamers say it is, i don't think a few nanoseconds for communication between controller & system will help any
but good luck, sadly lair is yet another title that falls short
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- 839 days 23 hours ago
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"Having a control scheme that uses the joysticks could help. "
Do you have any clue what an idiot you sound like to everyone who has Lair?
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Blink
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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I get the feeling that 360 fanboys are trying to shoot down this game an spread as many rumors about it as possible...Maybe??anyone agree??
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Blink
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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PS3 actually has a game that couldn't even be possible for the 360...letts trash it!!LOL
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cuco33
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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7.2 - why are you replying to yourself?
this game is horrid. reviewers said so. gamers said so. it looks jaw dropping good most of the time but doesn't play well and proves that graphics alone can not make a game
if the developer were smart, they would have put a classic button/analog stick control as an option similar to what warhawk did. notice how warhawk gets some decent reviews and gamers say it's a ton of fun? imagine if they stuck to just SIXAXIS for everything on that too...
lair is sh*t, sorry fellas... you'll have to wait yet again for a superb title. maybe you should learn that the sony camp and it's exclusive partners hype things out of proportion to create demand and it's lil fanboys like yourself that swear the game is excellent when deep down inside you know it's utter crap
to below: i will experience this game soon enough. i have ps3 owning friends who played it and all told me the same thing, it looks great and sounds great but it is crap. you get lost on what to do, the controls aren't great, and it has a tendency to get a tad repetitive. so when i get my chance i'm sure everything that my friends and i who have agreed since preNES days will agree that this game isn't great.
it's understandable, you sony guys keep looking for that must own game, but it isn't out yet... it's coming in the likes of the red head or old timer snake ;)
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RussDeBuss
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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7.3 - @ 7.2
have you played it?
just wondering as you slate it so much but just quote other people saying its bad.
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snoop_dizzle
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8 - i dont know if i could tell a difference
becasue i have been getting used to the controls(occasionally they get a little weird) over this time so i might not notice as much. Though doing a 180 flip seems responsive. My friend was complaining that he couldn't always do one.
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Blink
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It took me about an hour to pick it all up and be comfortable with the controls. I find that actually sitting in a close proximity direct line of where my ps3 was helped drastically, ie, don't sit too far to one side or have obstuctions in the way. I had the best response from the controller when i did this.
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Double-Edged
- 839 days 23 hours ago
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9 - Hmmmm....
They should do more than just SixAxis to fix the game.
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noted and agreed...I'm not sure if "next gen" for these console is way off or the people who are reviewing games these days are also expecting flying cars next year....its a game!!!
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snoop_dizzle
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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12.2 - most definelty
however really the only one fanboys were bragging about were blue dragon. The other ones didn't really have any hype. Though a few people were bragging about the others,
But yeah reviews recently have been all over the place for both the 360 and PS3.
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I have played two worlds... its TERRIBLE. bad and I mean bad.
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13 - Story is the most important thing in this type of game
I dont mind playing different controls scheme, if you try you can always get used to them...I'm going to go pick this baby right now and see for my self. But from the player videos this game rocks. Reveiws don't make a game AAA, fan base does.
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Hey snoop dizzle and Blink, how is the frame rate on Lair? IS it crappy?
I kinda want to get this game despite the horrible reviews.
**About 360 reviews**
Yeah Blue Dragon got 6-10 on Gamespot. That is a shame, as I am a big fan of Hironobu Sakaguchi, but hey. I do remember allot of aggressive 360 fanboys throwing this game around in arguments for good Japanese RPG's.
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snoop_dizzle
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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14.1 - hmm
if you like the rogue squadron series you would probably enjoy it.
It might be frustrating at first though, but you might like it after.
Then again it is 60 dollars unless you get it used or off a friend(which i did).
So if you are low on money get warhawk.
Give it a rent though
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I hope they come out with a patch that you can download that lets you use the analog sticks.
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TheExecutive
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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im sorry to say this but I really really doubt that is ever going to happen.
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- 839 days 22 hours ago
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16 - LAIR ROCKS!!!!
I was sceptical about picking up LAIR after reading a few bad reviews. My son started to cry when I told him I wasn't going to get "the dragon game" after all. (he had been looking forward to it since he's a dragon fan)
So I reluctantly went and got it. WOW! The questionable reviewers are all taking bribes. Period! There is NO problem AT ALL with the controls. PERIOD! Does the dragon react like a fighter jet...NO. It's a dragon, not a plane. The controls are VERY responsive and the reaction on screen is EXACTLY what I'm doing with the sixaxis.
I am SOOOOO glad my son started crying over this, if not...I would have missed out on his favorite PS3 game and one of my favorites as well. People, DON'T listen to the xbots and the reviewers on the take. Listen to us, the gamers. GO GET LAIR....THANK ME LATER!
Oh..did I mention that LAIR looks freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!
AAA all the way!
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17 - No new control was added in update
New for 1.92: Playability status with the PS3™ system has changed for some PlayStation®2 format titles. To check on the latest status, visit the search site for compatible titles (coming soon). Not PS3 titles and there is NO Lair control update added here is proof from:
http://www.us.playstation.c...
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I REALLY want to try the games to controls to make up my mind
I guess ill have to stalk someone in the neighborhood to find out if they have a PS3 and lair XD
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RussDeBuss
- 839 days 22 hours ago
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19 - ??????? @17
from official playstation blog
Firmware Update (v1.92)+ Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Manager, PR
As Kotaku, Joystiq and others are pointing out, we’ve released a minor firmware update (version 1.92) for the PS3. This update focuses on some PS3 compatibility and playability issues for select titles. A search site for looking up compatible titles is also in the works, as soon as it’s live, I’ll publish a link to it here
doesn't mention ps2 titles there, just says selected titles. lair may be 1 of those i pressume if these people are right and controls are better
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cuco, you're kidding me...yes, let regress and make all games have the gameplay of nintendo games, cause it would make them more fun. Some one has got to take some chances to better the gaming experience, microsoft has no concept of this, you'll see when halo 8 comes out...Thats what your waiting for right???FPS are a dime a dozen and ALL have the same gameplay...your name says it all
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- 839 days 21 hours ago
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20.1 - Blink, you've got to agree with me on this man...
How assinine was the developer by NOT including an option to change from SIXAXIS to regular analog sticks. If SIXAXIS controls were bad i'm sure it'ld be easy to code a different control layout as an option for those who don't like, hate, can't get used to SIXAXIS even if it were done so well. Most games nowadays have the ability to change control layouts. Just because SIXAXIS is there doesn't mean Lair developers had to be the guinea pigs to utilize it (very badly mind you) 100%. It reminds me of all the bad Wii ports that tacked on Wii actions piss poorly (i.e. COD3 for Wii was bad unlike RE4 which does a great job at it)
This game never appealed to me in the first place but I would have happily given it a go for all the visual and audible praise it has gotten but with bad controls, I don't want to be frustrated and miss out on how pretty it looks and sounds.
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Bit stuffed if you don't have a connection i 'm guessing
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22 - I'm sure some some of you saw...........
the video of someone demonstrating the correct way to play Lair. I agree that Lair should be gameplay tightened up abit(perhaps the update). After watching the video, I'm pretty sure those that previewed the game wanted the flight to be like the 80's game After Burner. If you've seen birds at flight, flying is certainly not like that.
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24 - Has anybody tried warhawk? Are the motion controls even more reponsive after 1.92?
I was playing around in warhawk yesterday on my own LAN server, and i decided to use the motion controls to master them in the warhawk, jeep and tank...and I found it was so much easier to play with motion controls. So if the 1.92 update offers improved reponse...then i need to get back into warhawk and test it out. I will also check out lair now since people are saying the controls are fixed...
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I dont see any dif after the update LAIR still handles great the controls feel exactly the same...
Maybe just wishful thinking? Still if you enjoy your game more now its all good.
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Eh ok
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